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National Service Corps Bill Clears Senate Hurdle (Cleared House already)
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http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/03/23/national-service-corps-bill-clears-senate-hurdle/
I guess Declaredemers dreams will all come true now..?
Oh did you think Obama was just kidding around when he said this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHmecy94z-M&feature=channel_page
What do you mean we can't do that? ...Oh... Yes... We... Can...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54tjbgJmLFg&feature=related
Maybe you missed last weekends developments in this exciting plot line?...
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The volunteers are part of Organizing for America, the same grassroots, national network credited in large part with Obama's quick rise from obscurity to president. Birmingham and 11 other sites statewide were part of a national push this weekend by Organizing for America to trumpet Obama's spending proposal.
"We're looking for supporters," said DeHaven of Hoover, one of the event's organizers.
"We're not looking for a fight. That will come later, when we have an army."
http://www.al.com/birminghamnews/stories/index.ssf?/base/news/1237709752152800.xml&coll=2
"If you can't out wit them, report them till they're banned!"- PopinJ'
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I'll only be a brown shirt if it is as cool as being a brown coat in Firefly. Except the getting killed/beaten part. If it ended up involving serving on a ship with Summer Glau or Jewel Staite; you can sign me up.
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well i'm 35 and have a PhD in science, and then 10 years experience in bioinformatics... you?
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/218865/page/8
So this is ok but the draft is bad? The sheep must truly be retarded these days. Go go go gun control, Hitler youth oops meant National Service Corps and down with those who don’t agree with dear leader.
"Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness". No one can stop anyone from pursuing happiness, but life and liberty are said to only exist if they are deliberately sought and paid for".
Read the first paragraph of that article. See the word "volunteerism" Go look it up.
This bill is for expanding community volunteer programs. Programs that help with a variety of things from taking care of the elderly to tutoring for underprivileged kids.
What the hell is your problem with this? It's not forcing anyone to do anything. It won 74-14 and last I checked, there aren't 74 democrats in the Senate.
You guys don't even read anymore do you. You just assumed that this was the army that Obama is creating to come kill your family, take your guns, and defile your statues of jesus.
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Please go look up the Hitler Youth
When you're done with that, if you're still not convinced..go ahead and look up just how much good The New Deal got us during the great depression...It's eerily similar to this plan of expansion.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
yes give guns and military training to disgruntled americans tired of the governments stupid decisions .... yeah .... this shouldnt come back to bite them on the ass.....
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We need more participation.
We need a draft; we are LOSING multiple wars. Too many people are voting FOR wars but are not contributing to the costs of those wars.
If anything, the only mystery is why this does not go any further. A spirit of volunteerism, however, is a very good start.
Thomas Paine:
"These are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sun-shine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of his country: but he that stands it now, deserves the thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered: yet we have this consolation with us that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph."
So its all voluntary and not mandatory? My fear meter just went down a few notches.
Don't be terrorized! You're more likely to die of a car accident, drowning, fire, or murder! More people die every year from prescription drugs than terrorism LOL!
Were you not aware that things like Americorps existed before; but had caps each year upon how many people could volunteer? This is merely an expansion of that. Right now Americorps receives 3 applications for every 1 they're able to accept.
Do you HONESTLY fear a paramilitary child army?
And do you believe our national security depends solely on the wars we fight; and nothing we do here at home, such as energy conservation and discovering renewable energy, to remove our dependencies overseas?
If nothing else, do you believe the Republican party would vote overwhelmingly to arm to the teeth inner city teenagers, to the point they were "as strong" as our existing military?
C'mon, it's like some of you are willingly living in a nightmare where you're scared to death of everything our government does nowadays.
Funny, so funny I spluttered all over my screen. Bah.
Before you give this your full support, you might want to research on the powers that will be bestowed upon these "volunteers". When Obama initially spoke of it, there was talk of police and military powers to be granted to the people "volunteering". Now, I am not saying whether or not it was true, but the rumor mill was grinding straight from the Hill.
If you see this corps swearing allegiance to Obama, and not to the United States, then the Nazi references will hold true.
It's a great bill. Encourage but not force more people to volunteer and help their community.
How that gets turned into "OMG OBAMA IS HITLER" is beyond me. There's no point in me even arguing anymore. It's that ludacris.
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The Nazis within only months of seizing power in 1933, organized, all German youth groups and clubs for boys and girls between the ages of 10-18. Independent groups were consolidated by the Reich into the Hitlerjugend (Hitler Youth) and organized along military lines. The NAZI youth program began for children at 10 years of age.
Hitler Youth members seized the German Youth Ministry with a few weeks of Hitler's appointment as Chancellor (1933). Membership for a few years was more or less voluntary. This changes with the promulgation of three laws (1936, 39, and 41) which among other matters made membership compulsory for all German children beginning at age 10 years. The First Hitler Youth Law announced, "The future of the German people depends on its youth. Therefore, all of the German youth must be prepared for its future duties." The subsequent two Hitler Youth Laws were designed primarily to prevent families from evading the requirement to enroll their children in the HJ.
Hitler considered the NAZI youth movement to be very important. Politicans are known to give lip service to children's programs, but their priorities were elsewhere. Hitler was very serious about the Hitler Youth program. It was a very important part of the Third Reich because it was so useful for the regime. There are several reasons Hitler gave considerable attention to youth. Hitler was a politician. He was a very astute politician, but ironically hated the give and take of politics. He was keenly aware of the difficulties he had to over come to seize power and even in the tainted March 1933 election that he failed to obtain a majority vote. He realized that he would never be able to convert many Germans to National Socialism. He converted many, but many others saw through the official propaganda. The younger generation was a different matter. They came to the Hitler Youth as more of a clean slate which were much more vulnerable to ideological manipulation. He was sceptical about the schools, especially the schools he inherited in 1933. The Hitler Youth was a program that the Nazis could completely control. Not only did the Hitler Youth provide the vehicle which the future geneation of Germans could be shaped, but the youth could be used in many other ways by Hitler and the Nazis.
There were many special programs associated with the Hitler Youth. The basis activities of marching, camping, games, and other activities is described above. In addition there were special programs including labor service, assisting the Gestapo, and helping with various aspects of the war effort.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler_Youth
http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/hitler_youth.htm
http://histclo.com/Youth/youth/org/nat/hitler/hitler.htm
Keep your children close to you.
The night of the long knives is not too far away.
I think the idea of a National Service Corps is not a good one. This is without taking into consideration Hitler Youths. So far our military body include the Peace Corp, Homeland Security, Coast Guard, Air Force, Marines, Army, and Navy. States handling Sheriffs, Police, Border Patrol, and Firemen. I think adding a National Service Corps is redundant and serves no real purpose.
The area these servicemen will be working at can be done better by a trained professional. The only reason these outlets accept volunteers is because they do it for free. A volunteer isn't as qualified as a nurse. I think a better service to add would be one that trains nurses/doctors/teachers, since they are a needed profession in this country and have to pay a monumental amount of money to become who they are.
What's the difference between Hitler and Obama?
Hitler wasn't muslim.
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Guys! I'm hopelessly lost in a mountain of mole hills! Them damn moles!
I'm glad you like it, because at 21 years old... you will be drafted. The program is being converted to mandatory service. You can go ahead and say you volunteered if it makes you feel better. They'll train you to find the terror cells hidden in your community. Theres a lot of responsibility in being a Obama Youth Brigade member. But you'll be deputized and have special powers to abuse. So that'll be fun.
Anyway, try to enjoy whats coming. Have fun with it. Start thinking about who you want to target first.
"If you can't out wit them, report them till they're banned!"- PopinJ'
I'm glad you like it, because at 21 years old... you will be drafted. The program is being converted to mandatory service. You can go ahead and say you volunteered if it makes you feel better. They'll train you to find the terror cells hidden in your community. Theres a lot of responsibility in being a Obama Youth Brigade member. But you'll be deputized and have special powers to abuse. So that'll be fun.
Anyway, try to enjoy whats coming. Have fun with it. Start thinking about who you want to target first.
You know...this is strikingly similar to the 5th Harry Potter Book.
Umbridge = Obama
Obama Youth Birgade = The Inquisitorial Squad
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Guys! I'm hopelessly lost in a mountain of mole hills! Them damn moles!
Anyone making Nazi references lost absolutely all my respect.
Also, last time I checked Hitler was as from from communism or socialism as he could be. At least choose one false label instead of going back and forth whenever it suits you.
Is that why he led the National Socialist party (aka the NaZi party)?
Anyway, I wouldn't make a hitler comparison. What we're seeing is just the basic foundational steps of setting up a fascist state. Its not hard to understand if you're aware of the historical cases. But I understand it can be hard to see the history that you are emerged in.
"If you can't out wit them, report them till they're banned!"- PopinJ'
Is that why he led the National Socialist party (aka the NaZi party)?
Anyway, I wouldn't make a hitler comparison. What we're seeing is just the basic foundational steps of setting up a fascist state. Its not hard to understand if you're aware of the historical cases. But I understand it can be hard to see the history that you are emerged in.
I am not saying Obama is Hitler, no he has his own agenda... and it isn;t helping the American people, that is for sure. I am saying he is using the very exact same methods to gain absolute power. Hitler could not convince everyone to support him, so he targeted the nations youth to accomplish this. Yes Obama is targeting the nationas youth to gain power. That Is pretty obvious when you look at history, Hitler was not the only one to use this method.. I read of it being used in Russia as well.
I am disgusted by these methods, targeting the children is truely a disgusting method.