I know i won't find a good game any soon, but that's why i'm not playing any mmorpg at the moment. Of course i'll try them, every game reservers to be tried, but i'm 100% sure i'm pretty much done with this the current/past mmorpgs system. My point is that nowdays mmorpg are made like cakes without any quality just to get money.
Originally posted by Netspook I don't know what the heck you've been smoking, but it surely ain't good for you.
If you've reached the lvl cap and still think RoM provides a friendly environment for the solo player, then yes, you're dumb (not you, Netspook, as I was talking in general). Most quests can be solved alone, but instances and bosses are a total no no - and that's where the goodies come from. So even if you don't like it, you will be forced at some point to group, raid and fight for a good drop. My point was that even if you'd spend hundreds of $ in the Cash Shop you still won't be able to build a good set because those pieces of gear come from places & bosses that require a full & well coordonated party (if not a full raid), it's impossible to get 'em otherwise. So the whole "you have to spend a lot of cash to be competitive" is not quite accurate, since you can be a big spender and still suck. First you'll have to learn how to play the game, get all the available info on transmuting, rune combining, etc and then make friends to go into instances and stuff. Having lots of diamonds available won't grant you instant success, you still need to get the required "mats": items with good stats to transmute and of corse the gear to add stats to.
That "if you farm the best equip you will have better equipement" is bullshit, because that "good" equipement will still be crap if you can't upgrade it compared to full upgraded stuff. Not to mention, that to raid and make dungeons...the better equipement the easier and faster you do it...so do you really think those who spent $$$ to upgrade "normal" stuff won't do dungeons? thats funny because they are/were the first ones on getting those "good drops", or at least when i played Usually who spends that much money on a game is someone really hardcore so it's rare to find hardcore unskilled players...
About the stats, thats the easy part to get...the hard part is getting hundreds and hundreds of AT charges to make it the highest tier/runes.
You can get decent gear as free user...of course, will it be even close to the gear someone got with money? Sadly No. And considering the game is focused on getting new equipement that's sad, who will be farming dungeons for mindless hours to get something that won't be upgraded? Not me
I've played P2P games and F2P games and i don't mind paying for a game, but this game "forces" you to pay everytime you get new equipement so that says it all...every few months new content + new gear + players spending 300$+ again...they really made a good deal :P
I've played P2P games and F2P games and i don't mind paying for a game, but this game "forces" you to pay everytime you get new equipement so that says it all...every few months new content + new gear + players spending 300$+ again...they really made a good deal :P
The people who feel "forced" to pay are those that have to have everything as quickly as possible. They feel pressure to max out their gear or they think they're missing out, so they go hog wild with the CS items. The truth is you don't have to rush to max everything out and you can play without spending a dime if you want.
If you want AT charges fast, just make an alt, spend an hour or so to get them to 10, turn in 10 dailies, and poof 20 free charges. You could probably do that 3 times or more a night if you set your mind to it.
It is great compared to all other F2P games but if you compare it to Guildwars that only have a fee for the box it have no chanse and the P2P games are generally a lot better.
It all depends on what you prefer of course and I gladly reccomend ROM to any who want a F2P game. I give it 2 stars out of 5, by far better than the loads of other F2P games I tried when bored.Actually spent 3 weeks playing it before I got bored.
Compared to 1/2 years of GW and EQ2, and 9 months of AoC it is not so great but I actually had fun for more than a few hours
I play EQ2 now again BTW, still the most fun I had in a MMO.
It is great compared to all other F2P games but if you compare it to Guildwars that only have a fee for the box it have no chanse and the P2P games are generally a lot better. It all depends on what you prefer of course and I gladly reccomend ROM to any who want a F2P game. I give it 2 stars out of 5, by far better than the loads of other F2P games I tried when bored.Actually spent 3 weeks playing it before I got bored. Compared to 1/2 years of GW and EQ2, and 9 months of AoC it is not so great but I actually had fun for more than a few hours I play EQ2 now again BTW, still the most fun I had in a MMO.
Not taking anything away from your opinion, but many don't really consider GW in the same category as your traditional MMORPG because of the instanced, non-persistent world. I personally disliked it for that reason. It just didn't immerse me in the game world like a more traditional MMORPG does and took too much away from what I look for in these type of games (mainly the spontaneity I find just running around the environment). I did like the PvP a lot though but that eventually became very repetitive and boring for me. So yeah, to each his own
Shall i remember you that most of the stuff made with AT is bound to the character? And anyway if it could work besides making the bound stuff, what's so nice on making 100 alts lvl 10 or 15 i don't remember, everytime you get a new drop? Weird game.
Is not feeling that you need to rush to have the best stuff, but what's the point of playing when you know your character will be useless later on? I play for fun, but i also want BALANCE in the game, when the company that made the game unbalances the game to make more money you know very well what kind of game is that, and i think everyone knows that.
It's not like you can get what paying users got after playing hard for a while, the fact is that you can't no matter how many days, months, years you play...let's see if you already get it in your mind
Btw notice that i said "forces" not forces, that means you have to choose, either you don't do it and your character will be near useless, or you do the same as many others...aka wasting money.
Shall i remember you that most of the stuff made with AT is bound to the character?
Incorrect. Using the AT doesn't auto bind anything to you. The items you upgrade follow the same bind rules as any other item.
Originally posted by Adamaris
And anyway if it could work besides making the bound stuff, what's so nice on making 100 alts lvl 10 or 15 i don't remember, everytime you get a new drop? Weird game.
No clue what you're talking about here. I suggested making alts to get free AT charges if you're in such a hurry to upgrade your gear.
Originally posted by Adamaris
Is not feeling that you need to rush to have the best stuff, but what's the point of playing when you know your character will be useless later on? I play for fun, but i also want BALANCE in the game, when the company that made the game unbalances the game to make more money you know very well what kind of game is that, and i think everyone knows that.
Where did you get the idea that they unbalanced the game to make more money? Please post the link to this insightful news.
Originally posted by Adamaris
It's not like you can get what paying users got after playing hard for a while, the fact is that you can't no matter how many days, months, years you play...let's see if you already get it in your mind
Btw notice that i said "forces" not forces, that means you have to choose, either you don't do it and your character will be near useless, or you do the same as many others...aka wasting money.
Now that you can buy diamonds with gold, your entire rant is baseless. Nice try though.
Point one, yes, AT does bind things, like RUNES, so what are you talking about? unless they changed it again but i doubt so, of course putting stats on an item doesn't make it bound, but upgrading runes or making +20 stats and these things were bound back in the days i played.
Point two...who said anything about hurry? I said making 100-200 alts to get AT charges won't work and it's retarded, no matter if you do 3 chars a day as you said or 50.
Point three, anyone who is not blind can clearly see that, it would be strange if the company confirmed it...i think.
Point four, good luck getting money to get diamonds (doing daily quests) to upgrade your equipement, by the time you upgrade 1 item new gear has been added to the game.
So yeah...i fail, with diamonds for trade or not, the game is pointless and boring.
same creap like all others. Wanna grow and be the best you need to pay . Yes indeed you can be the best is you have like 3 years time. patince and some luck. Otherway you play for nothing.
Point one, yes, AT does bind things, like RUNES, so what are you talking about? unless they changed it again but i doubt so, of course putting stats on an item doesn't make it bound, but upgrading runes or making +20 stats and these things were bound back in the days i played.
Well either they changed it or you're just remembering wrong. I created some runes just yesterday and sent them to an alt. I also transmuted a dagger with as many stats as I could fit onto it and posted it on the AH.
Originally posted by Adamaris
Point two...who said anything about hurry? I said making 100-200 alts to get AT charges won't work and it's retarded, no matter if you do 3 chars a day as you said or 50.
Not sure why you think it doesn't work or that it's retarded. I have alts that turn in dailies just for the AT charges... make quite a nice profit from selling the runes and gear I transmute from them too.
Originally posted by Adamaris
Point three, anyone who is not blind can clearly see that, it would be strange if the company confirmed it...i think.
So basically it's your opinion and you have zero evidence to prove that outlandish statement? Ok got it.
Originally posted by Adamaris
Point four, good luck getting money to get diamonds (doing daily quests) to upgrade your equipement, by the time you upgrade 1 item new gear has been added to the game.
So yeah...i fail, with diamonds for trade or not, the game is pointless and boring.
Wow was that random. They don't add gear all that often, and I make plenty of money using the transmuter (as I said above) to buy diamonds just fine. You don't like the game, we get it. So why are you still trolling the forums of a game you left? Bit of separation anxiety methinks.
Yea...whatever...i won't argue anymore with someone that loves the game so much, is hard to discuss about true things when someone likes the game that much. You clearly think runes are mana stones...rolf...what else do i have to say?
But for your info, i didn't come to RoM forums to say anything because this thread was made in mmorpg forums and someone moved it here...you fail again
Anyways, have fun doing daily quests with your 40 alts everyday in this "amazing" game.
Yea...whatever...i won't argue anymore with someone that loves the game so much, is hard to discuss about true things when someone likes the game that much. You clearly think runes are mana stones...rolf...what else do i have to say?
No, I know the difference between runes (that go in rune slots) and mana stones (that are created from fusion stones and used to fuse stats to an item). Neither are bound when you transmute them. The only reason you can't argue this point anymore is because you're flat out wrong. Accounts are free, just log in and check for yourself if you don't believe me.
Originally posted by Adamaris
But for your info, i didn't come to RoM forums to say anything because this thread was made in mmorpg forums and someone moved it here...you fail again
I'm just curious why do you even care enough to post about RoM since you left?
Originally posted by Adamaris
Anyways, have fun doing daily quests with your 40 alts everyday in this "amazing" game.
Thank you, I will. Have fun with that separation anxiety thing you have going on.
Shall i remember you that most of the stuff made with AT is bound to the character? And anyway if it could work besides making the bound stuff, what's so nice on making 100 alts lvl 10 or 15 i don't remember, everytime you get a new drop? Weird game. Is not feeling that you need to rush to have the best stuff, but what's the point of playing when you know your character will be useless later on? I play for fun, but i also want BALANCE in the game, when the company that made the game unbalances the game to make more money you know very well what kind of game is that, and i think everyone knows that. It's not like you can get what paying users got after playing hard for a while, the fact is that you can't no matter how many days, months, years you play...let's see if you already get it in your mind Btw notice that i said "forces" not forces, that means you have to choose, either you don't do it and your character will be near useless, or you do the same as many others...aka wasting money.
One thing you fail to realize is the game isn't free to play. No, not really, all games need to generate revenue. This game does a decent job at providing good content to free players, but it makes perfect sense that they'd encourage upper level players to start paying cash to get more content and power.
The fact is, if you are a person with a lot of free time, you can earn the gold to trade for diamonds which can be spent in the item shop. Many players are doing exactly that. Add in the fact you can sell what you craft or find as drops for diamonds and I don't see what the problem is.
I'm not level 50, but I'm in a guild with many of them, and I don't hear anyone really voicing the complaints you seem to have. They go out regularly and farm for gold, chests, diamonds etc and seem to be gearing up pretty quickly.
I do hear comments about how "godly" some player is for spending a fortune in the cash shop, but since we're on a pvp server we look at this as an opportunity to earn some great loot for low cost.
And no matter how godlyy someone's armor/weaapons are, we find that a quick zerg by 20 level 50's pretty much levels the playing field. We took 3 very nice items worth about 600 dollars in diamonds the other night from the same player. Seemed pretty easy way to get gear from our point of view.
Yeah, game has many flaws, but if you enjoy level based, quest style games, you'll enjoy ROM.
Sometimes is the journey uupward you are supposed to focus on, and not the end game.
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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Even better than magic...hot chicks in little outfits doing magic. I'm just saying..I think MMORPG companies should look into......oh wait never mind....Doh!
It's better to lurk in forums and be thought a fool...than to endlessly "Quote" and remove all doubts.
This is why Micro Transactions are the devil. They are unbalanced by their very nature. They induce, if not force, massive spending far beyond anything you would experience in a subscription based game. Yet these cash shop games don't justify this greatly exagerated cost with superior content. They are nothing but rip-offs and I will be one of the first to leave the genre if this becomes the defacto busniness model for future MMOs. SOE is changing all of their games to this model as well as insuldting it's players by also including a subscription on top of it. Their hope is to lead the rest of the industry into this new era of sticking it to the consumer.
With PvE raiding, it has never been a question of being "good enough". I play games to have fun, not to be a simpering toady sitting through hour after hour of mind numbing boredom and fawning over a guild master in the hopes that he will condescend to reward me with shiny bits of loot. But in games where those people get the highest progression, anyone who doesn't do that will just be a moving target for them and I'll be damned if I'm going to pay money for the privilege. - Neanderthal
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I know i won't find a good game any soon, but that's why i'm not playing any mmorpg at the moment. Of course i'll try them, every game reservers to be tried, but i'm 100% sure i'm pretty much done with this the current/past mmorpgs system. My point is that nowdays mmorpg are made like cakes without any quality just to get money.
Ummm cake
If you've reached the lvl cap and still think RoM provides a friendly environment for the solo player, then yes, you're dumb (not you, Netspook, as I was talking in general). Most quests can be solved alone, but instances and bosses are a total no no - and that's where the goodies come from. So even if you don't like it, you will be forced at some point to group, raid and fight for a good drop. My point was that even if you'd spend hundreds of $ in the Cash Shop you still won't be able to build a good set because those pieces of gear come from places & bosses that require a full & well coordonated party (if not a full raid), it's impossible to get 'em otherwise. So the whole "you have to spend a lot of cash to be competitive" is not quite accurate, since you can be a big spender and still suck. First you'll have to learn how to play the game, get all the available info on transmuting, rune combining, etc and then make friends to go into instances and stuff. Having lots of diamonds available won't grant you instant success, you still need to get the required "mats": items with good stats to transmute and of corse the gear to add stats to.
That "if you farm the best equip you will have better equipement" is bullshit, because that "good" equipement will still be crap if you can't upgrade it compared to full upgraded stuff. Not to mention, that to raid and make dungeons...the better equipement the easier and faster you do it...so do you really think those who spent $$$ to upgrade "normal" stuff won't do dungeons? thats funny because they are/were the first ones on getting those "good drops", or at least when i played
Usually who spends that much money on a game is someone really hardcore so it's rare to find hardcore unskilled players...
About the stats, thats the easy part to get...the hard part is getting hundreds and hundreds of AT charges to make it the highest tier/runes.
You can get decent gear as free user...of course, will it be even close to the gear someone got with money? Sadly No. And considering the game is focused on getting new equipement that's sad, who will be farming dungeons for mindless hours to get something that won't be upgraded? Not me
I've played P2P games and F2P games and i don't mind paying for a game, but this game "forces" you to pay everytime you get new equipement so that says it all...every few months new content + new gear + players spending 300$+ again...they really made a good deal :P
The people who feel "forced" to pay are those that have to have everything as quickly as possible. They feel pressure to max out their gear or they think they're missing out, so they go hog wild with the CS items. The truth is you don't have to rush to max everything out and you can play without spending a dime if you want.
If you want AT charges fast, just make an alt, spend an hour or so to get them to 10, turn in 10 dailies, and poof 20 free charges. You could probably do that 3 times or more a night if you set your mind to it.
It is great compared to all other F2P games but if you compare it to Guildwars that only have a fee for the box it have no chanse and the P2P games are generally a lot better.
It all depends on what you prefer of course and I gladly reccomend ROM to any who want a F2P game. I give it 2 stars out of 5, by far better than the loads of other F2P games I tried when bored.Actually spent 3 weeks playing it before I got bored.
Compared to 1/2 years of GW and EQ2, and 9 months of AoC it is not so great but I actually had fun for more than a few hours
I play EQ2 now again BTW, still the most fun I had in a MMO.
Not taking anything away from your opinion, but many don't really consider GW in the same category as your traditional MMORPG because of the instanced, non-persistent world. I personally disliked it for that reason. It just didn't immerse me in the game world like a more traditional MMORPG does and took too much away from what I look for in these type of games (mainly the spontaneity I find just running around the environment). I did like the PvP a lot though but that eventually became very repetitive and boring for me. So yeah, to each his own
Shall i remember you that most of the stuff made with AT is bound to the character? And anyway if it could work besides making the bound stuff, what's so nice on making 100 alts lvl 10 or 15 i don't remember, everytime you get a new drop? Weird game.
Is not feeling that you need to rush to have the best stuff, but what's the point of playing when you know your character will be useless later on? I play for fun, but i also want BALANCE in the game, when the company that made the game unbalances the game to make more money you know very well what kind of game is that, and i think everyone knows that.
It's not like you can get what paying users got after playing hard for a while, the fact is that you can't no matter how many days, months, years you play...let's see if you already get it in your mind
Btw notice that i said "forces" not forces, that means you have to choose, either you don't do it and your character will be near useless, or you do the same as many others...aka wasting money.
Incorrect. Using the AT doesn't auto bind anything to you. The items you upgrade follow the same bind rules as any other item.
No clue what you're talking about here. I suggested making alts to get free AT charges if you're in such a hurry to upgrade your gear.
Where did you get the idea that they unbalanced the game to make more money? Please post the link to this insightful news.
Now that you can buy diamonds with gold, your entire rant is baseless. Nice try though.
Point one, yes, AT does bind things, like RUNES, so what are you talking about? unless they changed it again but i doubt so, of course putting stats on an item doesn't make it bound, but upgrading runes or making +20 stats and these things were bound back in the days i played.
Point two...who said anything about hurry? I said making 100-200 alts to get AT charges won't work and it's retarded, no matter if you do 3 chars a day as you said or 50.
Point three, anyone who is not blind can clearly see that, it would be strange if the company confirmed it...i think.
Point four, good luck getting money to get diamonds (doing daily quests) to upgrade your equipement, by the time you upgrade 1 item new gear has been added to the game.
So yeah...i fail, with diamonds for trade or not, the game is pointless and boring.
Had a better release than most major MMOs :P and it's fun and content is promised and delivered
yeah thats finally a f2p game with a lot of features and content.
i hope that this game will put the f2p genre to a higher standard and the next f2p games will be better then the current ginders.
same creap like all others. Wanna grow and be the best you need to pay . Yes indeed you can be the best is you have like 3 years time. patince and some luck. Otherway you play for nothing.
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Well either they changed it or you're just remembering wrong. I created some runes just yesterday and sent them to an alt. I also transmuted a dagger with as many stats as I could fit onto it and posted it on the AH.
Not sure why you think it doesn't work or that it's retarded. I have alts that turn in dailies just for the AT charges... make quite a nice profit from selling the runes and gear I transmute from them too.
So basically it's your opinion and you have zero evidence to prove that outlandish statement? Ok got it.
Wow was that random. They don't add gear all that often, and I make plenty of money using the transmuter (as I said above) to buy diamonds just fine. You don't like the game, we get it. So why are you still trolling the forums of a game you left? Bit of separation anxiety methinks.
Yea...whatever...i won't argue anymore with someone that loves the game so much, is hard to discuss about true things when someone likes the game that much. You clearly think runes are mana stones...rolf...what else do i have to say?
But for your info, i didn't come to RoM forums to say anything because this thread was made in mmorpg forums and someone moved it here...you fail again
Anyways, have fun doing daily quests with your 40 alts everyday in this "amazing" game.
Care to say or you just posting to increase your post count if so Darkfall forums are the other way.
i uninstalled it after 5 hours
LOL, I played it for a couple of days but gave it up. Perfect World is still the best FTP game out.
No, I know the difference between runes (that go in rune slots) and mana stones (that are created from fusion stones and used to fuse stats to an item). Neither are bound when you transmute them. The only reason you can't argue this point anymore is because you're flat out wrong. Accounts are free, just log in and check for yourself if you don't believe me.
I'm just curious why do you even care enough to post about RoM since you left?
Thank you, I will. Have fun with that separation anxiety thing you have going on.
One thing you fail to realize is the game isn't free to play. No, not really, all games need to generate revenue. This game does a decent job at providing good content to free players, but it makes perfect sense that they'd encourage upper level players to start paying cash to get more content and power.
The fact is, if you are a person with a lot of free time, you can earn the gold to trade for diamonds which can be spent in the item shop. Many players are doing exactly that. Add in the fact you can sell what you craft or find as drops for diamonds and I don't see what the problem is.
I'm not level 50, but I'm in a guild with many of them, and I don't hear anyone really voicing the complaints you seem to have. They go out regularly and farm for gold, chests, diamonds etc and seem to be gearing up pretty quickly.
I do hear comments about how "godly" some player is for spending a fortune in the cash shop, but since we're on a pvp server we look at this as an opportunity to earn some great loot for low cost.
And no matter how godlyy someone's armor/weaapons are, we find that a quick zerg by 20 level 50's pretty much levels the playing field. We took 3 very nice items worth about 600 dollars in diamonds the other night from the same player. Seemed pretty easy way to get gear from our point of view.
Yeah, game has many flaws, but if you enjoy level based, quest style games, you'll enjoy ROM.
Sometimes is the journey uupward you are supposed to focus on, and not the end game.
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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yeah this game is the best f2p game. 5 weeks ago i started to play it and im pleasantly surprised. never plaid a f2p game with less grind.
The point is.....wait what are we talking about again?
It's better to lurk in forums and be thought a fool...than to endlessly "Quote" and remove all doubts.
Even better than magic...hot chicks in little outfits doing magic. I'm just saying..I think MMORPG companies should look into......oh wait never mind....Doh!
It's better to lurk in forums and be thought a fool...than to endlessly "Quote" and remove all doubts.
This is why Micro Transactions are the devil. They are unbalanced by their very nature. They induce, if not force, massive spending far beyond anything you would experience in a subscription based game. Yet these cash shop games don't justify this greatly exagerated cost with superior content. They are nothing but rip-offs and I will be one of the first to leave the genre if this becomes the defacto busniness model for future MMOs. SOE is changing all of their games to this model as well as insuldting it's players by also including a subscription on top of it. Their hope is to lead the rest of the industry into this new era of sticking it to the consumer.
With PvE raiding, it has never been a question of being "good enough". I play games to have fun, not to be a simpering toady sitting through hour after hour of mind numbing boredom and fawning over a guild master in the hopes that he will condescend to reward me with shiny bits of loot. But in games where those people get the highest progression, anyone who doesn't do that will just be a moving target for them and I'll be damned if I'm going to pay money for the privilege. - Neanderthal