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Will Aion be the next big MMO?

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  • crunchyblackcrunchyblack Member Posts: 1,362

    Of course Aion will be the next big mmo.   It will be this way untill it is open to the general public, where it will be tried by many, picked apart, hailed as the next AoC, hated, and brought back down to a decent mmo istead of the next big thing.  This is how all mmos work, unless its really terrible or has major flaws later on in the game.

    I still cant believe how people STILL fall for all the hype before trying the game for a few months.   This seems to be the newest trend in mmos.  Hailing all new mmos as the "holy grail" of mmo during development and closed betas, then the cracks start to show once EVERYONE plays it, then it simply becomes a game that some love and some hate.

    And yes i know people have played the chinese version and loved it. 

    As far as this game being the next big thing, we will have to wait to play it in our local markets, then wait for people to hit endgame to see how good aion reall is.

     

    However if Aion can release a full and bug free game with all its promised content, it will have a HUGE advantage over the current crop of newish mmo's.  Thats not to say that people wont hate aion just for being aion and vice versa.

     

    I wish aion the best of luck and will look forward to trying it before i buy it to see if its right for me, untill then its just a game on the horizon, nothing im going to get all hyped up about.

  • AdamarisAdamaris Member Posts: 73

    In my opinion Aion will have a good amount of subscribers, tho it won't be "the next big mmo", or if it is...it won't last for a long.

    Aion will mainly attract L2 and some WoW players, mainly L2...and while the game seems polished and decent, in doesn't offer anything new that you haven't done in the last years (just the wings thing, which is nothing awsome anyway).

    So...will it be the next big MMO? Maybe, but in that case it will be a big MMO for 6 months or a year until the new releases come out. (there are many titles comming much more promissing, prolly not as polished as Aion but more innovative)

    I also played the chinese version and i didn't love it, in fact i know many people who is dissapointed and won't play it, so not everyone who tried the chinese version loved it ;)

  • KhrymsonKhrymson Member UncommonPosts: 3,090

    Nope!

  • PaulehPauleh Member UncommonPosts: 78

    I'd be suprised if Aion does as well as Age of Conan, lots of subscribers at first, novelty soon vanishes and then its another low populated asian mmo.

  • BrenelaelBrenelael Member UncommonPosts: 3,821

    Although I do think Aion will do extremely well for itself I don't think it will be the next "big thing". The reason is it's an Asian niche game. It's a niche game in the west because of it's art style and nothing more. Now I played Lineage II for years and have no problem with this art direction but there are a lot of western gamers that do. It's art style will limit it's popularity in the western market.

     

    Bren

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  • logangregorlogangregor Member Posts: 1,524


    Originally posted by Goronian
    Originally posted by Xibz
    Originally posted by Goronian
    Originally posted by jadsta I've been looking around for new upcoming MMO's, and it seems that alot of people really think Aion will be the next big MMO.
    I decided to research abit more about Aion and it's the first game I've seen in a long time to have good, smooth gameplay, like WoW. I'm not saying that WoW is the best MMO out at the moment, though it does have the most subsribers, but I think part of the reason it is so popular is the gameplay, movements, smoothness of combat, etc.
    Aion looks very promising, but I also notice it is by the company, playNC, which has a number of different MMO's which have not been very successful (Lineage 1 & 2, Guildwars, City of Heroes/Villains).
    So, do YOU think Aion will be the next big MMO?
     
    Of course not. It's WoW-like, and "you can't out-WoW, WoW". So there you go.


    It's WoW-like? Are you serious? Have you played the game?
     
    I've just got done playing the Chinese open beta of Aion,  and I can tell you right now it's nothing like WoW.
    I am actually quite stunned at your comment, and cannot fathom on how/where you have postulated that idea.
     
    Wait, WoW has people and Aion has people. Oh Gawd it's WoW-like...
     


    Way to overreact... I would actually love you to prove me different - I haven't played it myself, and I don't hold much for WoW. But Aion seems a lot like it - solo-oriented quest-heavy content. That's the core of WoW.


    I have a better idea, why dont you prove the point you brought up instead of expecting someone else to disprove a point you arent even willing to support.

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  • GoronianGoronian Member Posts: 724
    Originally posted by logangregor


     

    Originally posted by Goronian


    Originally posted by Xibz


    Originally posted by Goronian


    Originally posted by jadsta
     
    I've been looking around for new upcoming MMO's, and it seems that alot of people really think Aion will be the next big MMO.

    I decided to research abit more about Aion and it's the first game I've seen in a long time to have good, smooth gameplay, like WoW. I'm not saying that WoW is the best MMO out at the moment, though it does have the most subsribers, but I think part of the reason it is so popular is the gameplay, movements, smoothness of combat, etc.

    Aion looks very promising, but I also notice it is by the company, playNC, which has a number of different MMO's which have not been very successful (Lineage 1 & 2, Guildwars, City of Heroes/Villains).

    So, do YOU think Aion will be the next big MMO?

     

    Of course not. It's WoW-like, and "you can't out-WoW, WoW". So there you go.





    It's WoW-like? Are you serious? Have you played the game?

     

    I've just got done playing the Chinese open beta of Aion,  and I can tell you right now it's nothing like WoW.

    I am actually quite stunned at your comment, and cannot fathom on how/where you have postulated that idea.

     

    Wait, WoW has people and Aion has people. Oh Gawd it's WoW-like...

     





    Way to overreact... I would actually love you to prove me different - I haven't played it myself, and I don't hold much for WoW. But Aion seems a lot like it - solo-oriented quest-heavy content. That's the core of WoW.

     



    I have a better idea, why dont you prove the point you brought up instead of expecting someone else to disprove a point you arent even willing to support.

    Hey, he disproved it already, and I'm on the game's side now. Everything's cool.

    I hate WoW because it made my plush hamster kill himself, created twin clones of Hitler, punched Superboy Prime in reality, stared my dog down, spoiled my grandmother, assimilated me into the Borg, then made me into a real boy, just to make me a woman again.
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  • logangregorlogangregor Member Posts: 1,524


    Originally posted by Goronian
    Originally posted by Brif
    Originally posted by Xibz
    Originally posted by Goronian
    Originally posted by jadsta Text
     
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    Don't take that seriously
    Goronian is a troll


    Really? I never knew. Tell me more!

    Not just any troll, a WoW troll.

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  • logangregorlogangregor Member Posts: 1,524


    Originally posted by Goronian

    Originally posted by logangregor

     



    Originally posted by Goronian


    Originally posted by Xibz


    Originally posted by Goronian


    Originally posted by jadsta
     
    I've been looking around for new upcoming MMO's, and it seems that alot of people really think Aion will be the next big MMO.
    I decided to research abit more about Aion and it's the first game I've seen in a long time to have good, smooth gameplay, like WoW. I'm not saying that WoW is the best MMO out at the moment, though it does have the most subsribers, but I think part of the reason it is so popular is the gameplay, movements, smoothness of combat, etc.
    Aion looks very promising, but I also notice it is by the company, playNC, which has a number of different MMO's which have not been very successful (Lineage 1 & 2, Guildwars, City of Heroes/Villains).
    So, do YOU think Aion will be the next big MMO?
     


    Of course not. It's WoW-like, and "you can't out-WoW, WoW". So there you go.


    It's WoW-like? Are you serious? Have you played the game?
     
    I've just got done playing the Chinese open beta of Aion,  and I can tell you right now it's nothing like WoW.
    I am actually quite stunned at your comment, and cannot fathom on how/where you have postulated that idea.
     
    Wait, WoW has people and Aion has people. Oh Gawd it's WoW-like...
     


    Way to overreact... I would actually love you to prove me different - I haven't played it myself, and I don't hold much for WoW. But Aion seems a lot like it - solo-oriented quest-heavy content. That's the core of WoW.

     

    I have a better idea, why dont you prove the point you brought up instead of expecting someone else to disprove a point you arent even willing to support.


    Hey, he disproved it already, and I'm on the game's side now. Everything's cool.


    Without knowing a thing about the game, your first conclusion you LEAP to is,
    "Its like WoW".


    Really, hasnt this argument already took place with every game in production?


    First people argue how they are similiar quoting game mechanics and what not.
    Haters and fanbois clash.

    Graphics are compared to WoW.
    Haters and fanbois clash again.

    Someone has to give a history of everything that is Fantasy related from past mmos and all the way back to Tolkien.


    And then about twice a year a new game is in late production or close to release and we endure more comments like your "omg its like WoW" and the dismally boring banter that results from those baseless and unfounded claims.

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  • GoronianGoronian Member Posts: 724

     



    Originally posted by logangregor

     

     





    Originally posted by Goronian




    Originally posted by Brif




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    Originally posted by Goronian




    Originally posted by jadsta

     

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    Don't take that seriously

    Goronian is a troll

     

     



    Really? I never knew. Tell me more!



     

    Not just any troll, a WoW troll.





    Sir, I'm insulted. I have a neutral stance towards WoW. I think it's rather good, as a game, but rather bad, as a mass cultural phenomenon.

     

     



    Originally posted by logangregor

     

     





    Originally posted by Goronian




    Originally posted by logangregor




     

    Originally posted by Goronian


     

    Originally posted by Xibz


     

    Originally posted by Goronian


     

    Originally posted by jadsta



    I've been looking around for new upcoming MMO's, and it seems that alot of people really think Aion will be the next big MMO.

    I decided to research abit more about Aion and it's the first game I've seen in a long time to have good, smooth gameplay, like WoW. I'm not saying that WoW is the best MMO out at the moment, though it does have the most subsribers, but I think part of the reason it is so popular is the gameplay, movements, smoothness of combat, etc.

    Aion looks very promising, but I also notice it is by the company, playNC, which has a number of different MMO's which have not been very successful (Lineage 1 & 2, Guildwars, City of Heroes/Villains).

    So, do YOU think Aion will be the next big MMO?

     



    Of course not. It's WoW-like, and "you can't out-WoW, WoW". So there you go.

     

     



    It's WoW-like? Are you serious? Have you played the game?



    I've just got done playing the Chinese open beta of Aion, and I can tell you right now it's nothing like WoW.

    I am actually quite stunned at your comment, and cannot fathom on how/where you have postulated that idea.



    Wait, WoW has people and Aion has people. Oh Gawd it's WoW-like...



     

     



    Way to overreact... I would actually love you to prove me different - I haven't played it myself, and I don't hold much for WoW. But Aion seems a lot like it - solo-oriented quest-heavy content. That's the core of WoW.

     

     







    I have a better idea, why dont you prove the point you brought up instead of expecting someone else to disprove a point you arent even willing to support.

     

     



    Hey, he disproved it already, and I'm on the game's side now. Everything's cool.



     

    Without knowing a thing about the game, your first conclusion you LEAP to is,

    "Its like WoW".

    Really, hasnt this argument already took place with every game in production?

    First people argue how they are similiar quoting game mechanics and what not.

    Haters and fanbois clash.

    Graphics are compared to WoW.

    Haters and fanbois clash again.

    Someone has to give a history of everything that is Fantasy related from past mmos and all the way back to Tolkien.

    And then about twice a year a new game is in late production or close to release and we endure more comments like your "omg its like WoW" and the dismally boring banter that results from that baseless and unfounded claims.





    Yeah, that was my blunder. I've leaped to conclusions after seeing some people sith-talk about it on the forums (and similarities with WoW). Now, after doing some research, I clearly see, where I was wrong, and actually looking forward to that one.

    And I've never said it's like WoW setting-wise, I thought among the lines of gameplay-wise, assumed it's another soloquestgrinder.

     P.S. Tolkien was not the first fantasy writer. Howard was before him, and I can assume, he wasn't the first one either.

    I hate WoW because it made my plush hamster kill himself, created twin clones of Hitler, punched Superboy Prime in reality, stared my dog down, spoiled my grandmother, assimilated me into the Borg, then made me into a real boy, just to make me a woman again.
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  • natuxatunatuxatu Member UncommonPosts: 1,364

    Honestly, yes I think it will be the nex big MMO. Now that's not to say it will take the place of WoW, but i think it will be hugely successfull especially at getting the players that don't play WoW and want something different. So yes I think it will be the next big MMO although I'm not saying it will be the biggest MMO.

    Although I have to disgree when you say that Guild Wars and City of Villians/Heroes weren't successfull. I think NCSoft has a very good track record.

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  • PyukPyuk Member UncommonPosts: 762

    "Aion looks very promising, but I also notice it is by the company, playNC, which has a number of different MMO's which have not been very successful (Lineage 1 & 2, Guildwars, City of Heroes/Villains)."

    Not successful? Lineage 1 and 2 still boast over a million paying subscriptions each (mostly in Asia, but hey, it's still paying customers). Guild Wars has sold over 4 million copies, all expansions combined, and CoX has maintained over 150k paying subs since going live (true, not great, but enough to earn a steady profit). If you're comparing to WoW numbers, then EVERY other MMO is an utter failure, too. Seriously, the games you mention as not successful are anything but.

    As for Aion, I predict it will be very much like L2, but with flying and prettier landscapes. Very popular in the Asian market of grindfests, but will be lucky to maintain 25k in the States and Europe.

     

    I make spreadsheets at work - I don't want to make them for the games I play.

  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,780

    No it won't.

    It's too esoteric for the average person.

    The next "big" mmo will be something that has appeal across many lines of people. My guess is the new Star Wars game.

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  • Gammit100Gammit100 Member UncommonPosts: 439

    How about we stop worrying what will be the next big MMO?  Just enjoy the games you have.

    MMO games played or tested: EQ, DAoC, Archlord, Auto Assault, CoH, CoV, EQ2, EVE, Guild Wars, Hellgate: London, Linneage II, LOTRO, MxO, Planetside, SWG, Sword of the New World, Tabula Rasa, Vanguard, WWIIOL, WOW, Age of Conan

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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,780
    Originally posted by Brenelael


    Although I do think Aion will do extremely well for itself I don't think it will be the next "big thing". The reason is it's an Asian niche game. It's a niche game in the west because of it's art style and nothing more. Now I played Lineage II for years and have no problem with this art direction but there are a lot of western gamers that do. It's art style will limit it's popularity in the western market.
     
    Bren



     

    Yes, I agree, this says it best.

    Aion is the only game I am looking forward to playing in the upcoming games. As I would rather not game hop as it's not really my thing (though unfortunately I have not found a game that has captivated me like L2) it is my hope that Aion will be my new home.

    Nevertheless, the art style, story and a significant pvp portion will keep the average person from playing. Now, It is my understanding that one can actually avoid pvp if they wanted but it doens't mitigate the fact that a significant thrust of the game is pvp focused.

    Again, my guess is the new Star Wars game.

    Like Skyrim? Need more content? Try my Skyrim mod "Godfred's Tomb." 

    Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w


    Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547

    Try the "Special Edition." 'Cause it's "Special." https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/64878/?tab=description

    Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo 
  • logangregorlogangregor Member Posts: 1,524


    Originally posted by Gammit100
    How about we stop worrying what will be the next big MMO?  Just enjoy the games you have.

    Without realizing it, you made a larger point.

    Point being, we are not enjoying the games we are playing and are looking for something better.

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  • logangregorlogangregor Member Posts: 1,524


    Originally posted by Sovrath
    Originally posted by Brenelael Although I do think Aion will do extremely well for itself I don't think it will be the next "big thing". The reason is it's an Asian niche game. It's a niche game in the west because of it's art style and nothing more. Now I played Lineage II for years and have no problem with this art direction but there are a lot of western gamers that do. It's art style will limit it's popularity in the western market.
     
    Bren

     
    Yes, I agree, this says it best.
    Aion is the only game I am looking forward to playing in the upcoming games. As I would rather not game hop as it's not really my thing (though unfortunately I have not found a game that has captivated me like L2) it is my hope that Aion will be my new home.
    Nevertheless, the art style, story and a significant pvp portion will keep the average person from playing. Now, It is my understanding that one can actually avoid pvp if they wanted but it doens't mitigate the fact that a significant thrust of the game is pvp focused.
    Again, my guess is the new Star Wars game.



    Hmm both your comments got me thinking...

    Do you all remember all the problems with Lineage 2 when it came to America.

    Mind you the situation with Lineage 2 is similiar to AION.
    -NCsoft made both games (obvious one I know)
    -Lineage2 had been released and successful in Korea before it came to the US.


    So let me get to the point, Im wondering if AION

    -will have problems with Gold Farmers
    -Bots


    -NCsoft generally not caring about its N America Fan Base (like L2)
    Thats the big one for me.


    What do you think?

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  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441
    Originally posted by Goronian


    Of course not. It's WoW-like, and "you can't out-WoW, WoW". So there you go.

     

    I agree but on the other hand, nothing is ever certain.

    Still, I thin CCPs "World of darkness online" have a bigger chanse of becoming the next big one just because that reason, no one has done it before and to be honest have we too many fantasy games around, a modern gothic horror game will be a nice change of pace.

  • MikehaMikeha Member EpicPosts: 9,196
    Originally posted by bonobotheory


    No, Aion won't be the next big thing.  It doesn't really do anything new. It's got a few gimmicks which make it interesting, but at its heart it's just another level-based quest grinder. It follows the same formula as a hundred other generic fantasy MMORPGs.



     

    Why have people gotten this idea that a game has to do something new in order to be a great game? I just came from the Chinese Beta also and I am yet to hear one person say that they did not like Aion. I dont know what next big thing is but Aion will be the 2nd biggest MMO next to World Of Warcraft.

  • MikehaMikeha Member EpicPosts: 9,196
    Originally posted by Sovrath


    No it won't.
    It's too esoteric for the average person.
    The next "big" mmo will be something that has appeal across many lines of people. My guess is the new Star Wars game.



     

    So you think everybody is into Star Wars? Thats the one reason that I wont be playing it because I am just not that into Star Wars to play a MMO based on it. If thats the case then the new Star Trek MMO could be the next big thing.

  • BrenelaelBrenelael Member UncommonPosts: 3,821
    Originally posted by logangregor


     

    Originally posted by Sovrath


    Originally posted by Brenelael
     
    Although I do think Aion will do extremely well for itself I don't think it will be the next "big thing". The reason is it's an Asian niche game. It's a niche game in the west because of it's art style and nothing more. Now I played Lineage II for years and have no problem with this art direction but there are a lot of western gamers that do. It's art style will limit it's popularity in the western market.

     

    Bren



     

     

    Yes, I agree, this says it best.

    Aion is the only game I am looking forward to playing in the upcoming games. As I would rather not game hop as it's not really my thing (though unfortunately I have not found a game that has captivated me like L2) it is my hope that Aion will be my new home.

    Nevertheless, the art style, story and a significant pvp portion will keep the average person from playing. Now, It is my understanding that one can actually avoid pvp if they wanted but it doens't mitigate the fact that a significant thrust of the game is pvp focused.

    Again, my guess is the new Star Wars game.


     



    Hmm both your comments got me thinking...

    Do you all remember all the problems with Lineage 2 when it came to America.

    Mind you the situation with Lineage 2 is similiar to AION.

    -NCsoft made both games (obvious one I know)

    -Lineage2 had been released and successful in Korea before it came to the US.



    So let me get to the point, Im wondering if AION

    -will have problems with Gold Farmers

    -Bots



    -NCsoft generally not caring about its N America Fan Base (like L2)

    Thats the big one for me.



    What do you think?

    Well Aion is being handled by a completely new branch of NcSoft as the Austin studio no longer exists. Supposedly NcSoft has learned from their past mistakes and promises to improve on all fronts but this really remains to be seen at this point. Only the NA/EU release of Aion will tell us for sure so time will tell.

     

    My favorite one from my Lineage II days was reporting someone for blatantly violating the EULA and getting the GM reply "Player Conflict, nothing we can do". I even got in a heated exchange with one of their GMs once over this and he actually told me that it wasn't the GM's job to enforce the EULA. My reply was, "Then what exactly is your job? Getting stuck newbies out of trees?". To which he replied, "Yeah, pretty much.". lol

     

    Bren

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    {
    beat();
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  • lornphoenixlornphoenix Member Posts: 993
    Originally posted by Korvenus


    So you think everybody is into Star Wars? Thats the one reason that I wont be playing it because I am just not that into Star Wars to play a MMO based on it. If thats the case then the new Star Trek MMO could be the next big thing.

     

    Just so you know every Star Trek game made in the last 10 years has either sucked or was a mediocre best.

    I expect STO to be no different and yet I'm going play the game no matter how bad it is for my Star Trek Fleet that hasn't really had a game to play since we stopped playing Starfleet Command 3... STO is our last chance (at a new Star Trek game) I fear.

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  • DreamagramDreamagram Member Posts: 798
    Originally posted by jadsta


    I think part of the reason it is so popular is the gameplay, movements, smoothness of combat, etc.

    Part of it, sure, but only a part of it. Have a look at what BioWare's Gordon Walton says is the rest of WoW's success recipe.

    I think you need to define "next big MMO" for your poll. I think a "big MMO" is one having  200k+ non-trial subscribers 8 months after launch (when 6 months subscriptions have been renewed or closed). And I consider only Western culture subscribers then, not Asia. Asia is a completely different ballgame, and we will likely not be playing on the same servers anyway. Whether Aion will do that, I'm not sure.

    If you mean whether Aion will be the next big MMO - beating WoW off the top spot - it's a resounding "NO".

  • bonobotheorybonobotheory Member UncommonPosts: 1,007
    Originally posted by Korvenus

    Originally posted by bonobotheory


    No, Aion won't be the next big thing.  It doesn't really do anything new. It's got a few gimmicks which make it interesting, but at its heart it's just another level-based quest grinder. It follows the same formula as a hundred other generic fantasy MMORPGs.



     

    Why have people gotten this idea that a game has to do something new in order to be a great game? I just came from the Chinese Beta also and I am yet to hear one person say that they did not like Aion. I dont know what next big thing is but Aion will be the 2nd biggest MMO next to World Of Warcraft.



    I never said Aion wasn't a great game, nor did I say that a game had to break new ground in order to be a great game.

    I said Aion won't be the next big MMO, and I said the next big MMO will have to do something new. There's no doubt that Aion will be a successful game. It just won't be the next big MMO, which is what the original post was asking.

  • Jerid13Jerid13 Member Posts: 465
    Originally posted by Goronian



    Of course not. It's WoW-like, and "you can't out-WoW, WoW". So there you go.

     

    The Korean population LOVES WoW, guess which game they're playing more of now...

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