Just read the Eurogamer Review, clearly a WoW lover who got his panties in a twist that Darkfall is not WoW 3.0 (2.0 bing WAR). I dont play Darkfall by the way and never tried it, but even i can see that that Eurogamer review is a piece of nonsense. That reviewer should be fired imediateley and banned from reviewing anything ever again.
This is nothing more than a poor excuse to defend the garbage that is Darkfall. "Anybody who doesn't like it was expecting WoW", No, anybody who didn't like it expected the game to be functional, but Darkfall is loaded with poor design decisions. Nowhere does the reviewer demand the game to be more like WoW, he makes it quite clear right at very start of the review that he is not expecting a WoW.
Just read the Eurogamer Review, clearly a WoW lover who got his panties in a twist that Darkfall is not WoW 3.0 (2.0 bing WAR). I dont play Darkfall by the way and never tried it, but even i can see that that Eurogamer review is a piece of nonsense. That reviewer should be fired imediateley and banned from reviewing anything ever again.
This is nothing more than a poor excuse to defend the garbage that is Darkfall. "Anybody who doesn't like it was expecting WoW", No, anybody who didn't like it expected the game to be functional, but Darkfall is loaded with poor design decisions. Nowhere does the reviewer demand the game to be more like WoW, he makes it quite clear right at very start of the review that he is not expecting a WoW.
Everybody seen WoW mentioned and started nerd raging, they failed to see him list multiple successful mmo's.
WoW, Lotro, SWG was even mentioned. He was not doing a full comparison of them either, he would take small bits that should be quite simply functional. IE. The looting.
The first review was a 2/10, assuming that the next review is a 6/10 and the reviewer says he doesn't like it but it is playable, etc. that shows that at the very least someone could possibly enjoy it. What a stupid company, and so unprofessional. Why wouldnt they accept?
My issue with the review has always been that Ed Zitron wanted WoW 4.0 or LoTRO 2.0, as mentioned above, but got Darkfall instead. Sure, Tasos may have been unprofessional in his approach towards remedying this situation, but anyone who has been neutral (not a fan or hater) could plainly see the problems with the review (I'm not talking the 2/10). The guy didn't even play Darkfall's primary features.... let alone other things like boats, which interest me. I only see him nitpick away at the inventory, combat system, etc. Reading it thoroughly, you could tell that none of those matched what he 'wanted' in a combat system (I'm not talking about bug issues, etc). Obviously, he wanted auto-attack and targeting and got twitch instead. Furthermore, he wanted quick incremental doses of leveling (mini-rewards) instead of having to spend the time to get the rewards. Anyone who thinks this review has any level of professionalism have either not read it, only seen the score or just skimmed through it, or their hatred and bias for Aventurine/Tasos/Darkfall blinds them to the lack of professionalism in the review. I'm sorry people, but this was a tragic attempt at journalism, and appears to be nothing more than a LoTRO/WoW fan hit job on Darkfall.
Excuse me, the only sad thing about the review was that he did not cover half the problems. The lauded mob AI that is a compete joke, the awful crafting system, mostly empty landscape. I could go on and on. If you can't see all the major design flaws that make up this game then I really feel sorry for you.
My issue with the review has always been that Ed Zitron wanted WoW 4.0 or LoTRO 2.0, as mentioned above, but got Darkfall instead. Sure, Tasos may have been unprofessional in his approach towards remedying this situation, but anyone who has been neutral (not a fan or hater) could plainly see the problems with the review (I'm not talking the 2/10). The guy didn't even play Darkfall's primary features.... let alone other things like boats, which interest me. I only see him nitpick away at the inventory, combat system, etc. Reading it thoroughly, you could tell that none of those matched what he 'wanted' in a combat system (I'm not talking about bug issues, etc). Obviously, he wanted auto-attack and targeting and got twitch instead. Furthermore, he wanted quick incremental doses of leveling (mini-rewards) instead of having to spend the time to get the rewards. Anyone who thinks this review has any level of professionalism have either not read it, only seen the score or just skimmed through it, or their hatred and bias for Aventurine/Tasos/Darkfall blinds them to the lack of professionalism in the review. I'm sorry people, but this was a tragic attempt at journalism, and appears to be nothing more than a LoTRO/WoW fan hit job on Darkfall.
Who the hell cares about boats etc if the combat and inventory is shit?? I for one couldn t stand the game as I beta tested it and to this day find the game an utter crapfest. Sorry but I can tell you I ve played the game as much as most people that are currently active subscribers and if you want i ll make a review. Not sure you would like what I have to say but I can tell you I ve played it plenty to get a good idea.
2009 dfo released with less content then shadowbane which released years ago. Now the problem is there was a starvation diet taking place among the pvp mmo gamers and when a sourse of food was thought to exist word of mouth spread like wildfire then morphed into dfo being perfect, no problems.
In the beta and game forums people were baned for asking and posting about the flaws that were not being addressed. The fanbois grew more bold whiped into a frenzy...and that is where we are now.
Tasos and dfo promised a haven for the pvp niche crowd. I was in beta, others were in beta and we said the game did not have the features listed not even half of the features listed and what was in game was unfunctional....unfun...broken...every weapon a mirror of another weapons powers, every spell tree a mirror of another spell tree...crafting boring...pve the worst yet in a mmo.
A 2/10 is generous imho. A game should never launch without actual thought out combat,pvp,pve, and crafting.
i don't get it. EUROGAMER can write whatever they want but if DF can deliver something good people will simply play it and ignore any reviews. And bad publicity is better then no publiity so it's all up to DF to show is it worth it. Let's take SWG for example, no matter how many good reviews it gets people will simply not play it since it sucks for 99% of players out there. Market will speak it's mind, and if I was DF marketing manager I would not sweat it over a simple review.
Well, the problem is not really one review but the fact that Tasos are reacting in a way no tother game dev ever have...
DF might be brilliant or not but Tasos is sinking it anyways. Not even Smedley would handle things this badly, if he would have been more graceful we might not even have heard about it at all.
All games get bad reviews, even hit games like Diablo and Half life but as long as the game is good and it gets some good too it will still be a hit. But game devs that acts this way is far from good for DF, he should have pointed out the things the reviewer missed and just said he didnt agree with him, not something like this.
The whole thing is silly and every time Tasos opens his mouth about it he makes things worse.
He should either quit or at least hire in someone to handle the PR, heck even the Bagdad Bob aproach would be better ("Bad review? No, everybody loves our game"). Crying never made anything better. Ever.
Why does Tasos not just open the game up to other MMo reviewers, i mean let them in it the game is so great and get them to try it?? could it be the fact the game stinks , has crap graphics and is just 2 guys and 1 stick. leet pvp there.
Tasos has every right to be upset, at least he is trying to put this all behind him so he can focus on making the game better. I played the game for 1 month and had a great time, I plan on resubbing after my finals. EG needs to take that review down cause the guy sounded more like a crybaby to me. "For example, inventory management is done through dragging items from the corpses of enemies. I mean this literally - you open your bag, and physically drag the items from one pouch to the other. There are no inventory 'blocks,' and thus your inventory quickly becomes a horrid mess of vague icons left on top of each other. This gets particularly thrilling when you descend into the wonderful world of harvesting, or try to loot something from a corpse in a particularly dangerous area, and find yourself massacred while farting about with a tree for four minutes. Worse still, the entire economy is player-driven - meaning that anybody wanting to get involved in crafting has literally hours of harvesting wood, or rock, or any of the other generic resources." have you ever heard of bags? its called orginization dipsh** I really thought it was funny how you spent your last 14 minutes asking noob questions like how do I cast a spell...help OMG "Using spells or arrows is somewhat less exhausting, but usually ends messily when an enemy decides to run at you, leaving you with the choice of changing weapon (a ten-second operation - five if you're particularly nimble) or running backwards in the vain hope of not dying."
ok 10 SECOND OPERATION? it only took me 2 seconds at most, what game would you play that takes less then 2 seconds? WTF. I just read about this whole thing today and thought it was funny so theres my 2 cents take it or leave it.
Do you have any factual proof apart from Tasos's wild claims?
Tasos has no credit standing. Whatever he said, I tend to believe in the opposite. Stop trying to smear EG, when you know nothing as a fact.
Do you know the character Ed Zit was using? Have you talked to him, see him shout on the channels? You surely do not. So your 2 cents is just repeating some wild claims from Tasos, which none of us believe. You do not have a 2 cents at all.
I'm not a fan of Tasos. I think he is one of the worst Lead Developers I have ever seen of and one of the biggest liers on the planet. However, in this situation I can see where he is coming from and I entirely empathise with his position. I had a go on Darkfall yesterday and played for about 4 hours. Even in that small amount of time, I can safely say that no credible journalist would give the game 2/10 as it really isn't that bad at all. I'd give it a 6 or a 7 because it does what it aims to do. It delivers the experience that Aventurine WANT it to deliver very well indeed and aside form some poor development here and there - most notably the UI and the inventory system - the game is exactly what it wants to be. Why penalise a developer for delivering what they always intended to deliver? The problem I have with the whole affair is that it is one dishonest developer against another dishonest journalist, which makes the task of decifering who is right and who is wrong very difficult. For those of you who don't know, Ed Zitron hasn't just been accused of this once or twice. He's been accused of it on four different occasions, each time with proof to back up the accusations being thrown around. I think we should be asking why Eurogamer would employ the "talents" of a journalist who has been proven to be a fraud before? What are they trying to accomplish? They site his impeccable track record but he doesn't have one. They say he has worked for PC Zone etc but he doesn't any more and - from what I understand - they did not part company under amicable terms. Why champion a journalist who seems to cause such distrust among his peers? Take the example Ed Zitron gives as a bad point: the fact that buying the game is a laborious task. I agree, it is a laborious task that is quite frustrating. Sadly however, Darkfall isn't (and never was intended to be) a mainstream MMO. They are going for a very small market segment. We talk about games like Eve being niche but Darkfall takes it to the extreme. Where as CCP were aiming MAINLY at a particular segment of the market, they did account for a fairly diverse population of gamers. Aventurine however have clearly got a very small and directed segment of gamers that they are aiming at with Darkfall, so much so that they have ONLY developed content for those players. Anyone outside of that segment can get stuffed because they aren't aiming the game at you. They have one group in mind and they really don't care about anyone else. With that in mind, they aren't interested in selling loads of copies of the game. They aren't interested in breaking records and giving everyone easy access. They only ever wanted a small user base to be interested. They want to police who can and who can't play their game. What is so wrong with that? All in all, this whole issue is messed up. Eurogamer should have never ran the review and they certainly should employ the talens of Ed Zitron.
I begin to wonder
If you feel after a few hours that the game is good, that is your view. Is it possible that the reviewer feels it in a different way and gave 2/10? At least Ed Zit give details, details where you can read and dispute or judge either way. That is enough, and better than your presentation, because apart from telling us you played for 4 hours, you said nothing else. How can you safely say that no one can dislike DF? Just because you like it during the first 4 hours? That is a reason? Oh god. What logic.
As for the credibility of Ed Zit, he has been criticised 4 times in his career? Oh big deal, ex-president G Bush has been accused of lying about the mass destruction weapon, about bin laden ... for 8 years. Now Ed Zit is a saint. Come on, before you come and educate me about trust Ed Zit or not, come with some solid information of your own. We read Tasos's babycry, we also read about how ppl said that Ed Zit was correct in the past. The games he dismissed are really bad games, game live Roma Victor has already vanished from the horizon. If you look at the past trends, you should never play DF. Games Ed Zit criticised have all turned out failures, and so DF should most like be another major flop.
Ed Zit gave 9/10 to LOTRo, and LOTRo is running smoothly on 300k sub. That is another indication Ed Zit sees from the average, he does not see from a narrow angle. That makes a good reviewer, review for the mass. If you already know DF is not for the mass, expect 2/10 or 0/10 from the mass, since you said DF deliberately not cater to them. So you cook some food you know its going to serve dogs, and you are angry because ppl look at the food and leave it? AV and the DF community treat others like dogs, or worse, carebear idiot whatever you call people, and yet expect people to respect them? Come on, I say AV and DF got what they deserve, a reciprocal of how they handle the gamers, and the kind of game they produce -- not cater to the general games, LOL.
So you said AV does not care about the rest of the gamers, they only plan to sell to a few dedicated. Good! But then why jump up and down when the rest give DF a 2/10. Tasos should not care, Tasos should feel happy b/c that the rest do not like the game. You do not develop for them, you develop a game for dogs, and people naturally will be turned away. Why is Tasos having issues with 2/10? What the fuss? There is nothing wrong in Tasos cooking food for the dogs, but Tasos should shut up when people refuse to eat dog food. This so called last response from Tasos, and all the earlier responses from Tasos is simply idiotic.
As for EG should not run the review, I say the opposite, I say so. Thank you EG for once again showing us what Tasos and his game is all about, and this time, on stage so everyone can have another round of laugh.
personally i love how Tasos thinks the review is causing irreparable damage when evryone already knows all about the game whether they be the majority thinking its terrible or the minority thinking its great.
That shows where Tasos bury his head, in the sand, or the so called sand-box he is trying to sell to us, for a full $50.
As I say, cant reason with you people..the feature list is not what this issue is about.
So you restrict ppl to quoting only those information to your favour? The feature list IS the primary source of contention. That DF is released as a falsely advertised product, and is still running a false ad on its web.
If Tasos has so much time on hand arguing with EG, why not spend a few minutes updating the feature list?
Or you mean Tasos is so incompetent that he cannot update it?
Or you think Tasos sees the feature list on the official web as not important, weeks after the so call final game is available to some for purchase? Oh well I will not deal with such a producer. What is important to this producer? Not us, not information we read about, what is important to him is cat fight and babycry over a review.
Either way, good bye to Tasos and whatever he is trying to sell to me.
Exactly, why didnt they get someone who likes this type of game to try it, you get a guy who likes wor and war and aoc and of course hes going to trash a pvp full loot game that is skill base.
Oh great, DF is so unpopular and such a failure, that it requires a fanboy to do the review.
Why don't you ask the AI bot to do the review. Tasos tells us that his AI testers are so good, they can debug the game for him.
Bottom line, DF is such a trash game, you need to be a convert in order to give a good review. In other words, if you are not brain washed, stay out.
Relax Izure, have some faith in your precious game, there is at least one "commentary" in MMORPG, from a self confessed carebear, who said DF is not that horrible. You do not need to stop playing DF, because of 2/10 from a review by EG. Fact is, if you really have faith in your game, do you need to come here and cry every other minute because of 1 review? Don't you have other better things to do in DF? Oh dear, its already boring now beating each other silly for a few weeks?
Just read the Eurogamer Review, clearly a WoW lover who got his panties in a twist that Darkfall is not WoW 3.0 (2.0 bing WAR). I dont play Darkfall by the way and never tried it, but even i can see that that Eurogamer review is a piece of nonsense. That reviewer should be fired imediateley and banned from reviewing anything ever again.
Sorry and no. EG stood by the review, and refuse to take it down. That is the right way for a magazine. No the revierwer is not fired, nor banned. He is gaining immense popularity and credit, being the first reviewer to opening telling us the emperor's new coat.
Since you do not play DF, how the hell do you know the reviewer is wrong. Why do you think he is clearly a WoW lover? Why a thinly disguised fanboy defence. Not everyone who dislikes DF plays WoW. WoW only has 12million subs, there are more than 12 million gamers on earth, and not everyone else like DF. Fact is, you have a harder and harder time finding DF lovers.
So stop worrying about WoW, dear fanboy, WoW is not going to worry about DF, nor will WoW players come to DF. If you like DF stay there, if you do not play DF, stop pulling WoW into the picture. In other words, start talking without mentioning WoW everytime you type. It betrays your fanboy identity.
(didnt read all, just the 1st page) but as i already said, that review was probably too much to the point and not very far off teh marking. With EG offering to have a new review and reviewer(s) on it and Tasos turning them down, just proves that they didnt want it confirming (or any more problems being discovered).
Its plain and simple fact that the game sucks, way too many reviews have given it a thumbs down, word of mouth from actual players have given it a thumbs down and this (fly all out of proportions) argument between EG and Tasos has just confirmed that things are not goign very well with DFO. Now they are saying none of them actually logged in to make the review LOL I would say they did log in, they did play the game, and they did junk it and say what they played, felt, and saw.
Lineage 2 a game that i love recived bad reviews from many sites but i still played it and loved it. and mmorpg player rarely look at reviews imo, mmorpg is different than reguler games its more personal so the only way to see if you like a game is to test it out yourseelf no review should effect this.
Lineage 2 a game that i love recived bad reviews from many sites but i still played it and loved it. and mmorpg player rarely look at reviews imo, mmorpg is different than reguler games its more personal so the only way to see if you like a game is to test it out yourseelf no review should effect this.
Spot on Sgt.
The more they babycry, the more I wonder, what the hell are the fanboys doing here? They should be enjoying the game during its honeymoon period.
Lineage 2 a game that i love recived bad reviews from many sites but i still played it and loved it. and mmorpg player rarely look at reviews imo, mmorpg is different than reguler games its more personal so the only way to see if you like a game is to test it out yourseelf no review should effect this.
Spot on Sgt.
The more they babycry, the more I wonder, what the hell are the fanboys doing here? They should be enjoying the game during its honeymoon period.
mm yep, if id listend to all the troll post about Aion id have been missing out on this jewl...3 years and worth the wait
A couple of months ago I read a review of Darkfall on this website by Paragus Rants, a player in the game. The review seemed to me to be very Objective. More importantly to me, it included enough information for a fan of Asheron's Call, Shadowbane and EVE Online to buy the game and try it out.
While waiting to buy the game I noticed that the forums for Darkfall itself were full of posts by Whiners and Haters, as I call them, most of which I ignored, since I am capable of reaching my own conclusions about whether I want to play a particular game.
I have played almost every day since I was able to purchase the game and I really enjoy it. BUT IT ISN'T FOR EVERYONE. The developers have a unique vision for what their game should be. In many ways Darkfall is like a lot of games you may have already played, and in many other ways it differs. If you play the game you will discover that if you liked playing Asheron's Call, Shadowbane, EVE Online and any other similar MMORPG on a PvP server, then you are likely to enjoy Darkfall.
If you are a potential buyer who makes decisions based on reviews, then I recommend reading the excellent reviews by Paragus Rants. I haven't bothered to look at the Eurogamer review, since I am already in game. I recommend the game personally, but you may not like the very individual choices made by the developers. They have a very firm idea of what they want their game to be. So far I like their choices.
The only real problem in the game is the same problem a player faces in any game - new players on the server will have a bit of a challenge coping with players who were on since the first month. But this is true in all of these games. If and when there is a new server, whether Eropean or American, there will be a slightly better opportunity to play on a level field, but late comers to PvP games will always be behind the curve to veteran players, regardless of the game. So, no problem. Just get in a guild and get good at what you like to do best.
And remember, it may be PvP but it is still a game. Enjoy yourself and have a good time. And when you stop having fun, find a different way to spend your time. If you keep doing something you don't enjoy, and become a Whiner and a Hater, you have also become a Fool, if you weren't one already. See Dick play, see Dick lose interest. See Dick keep playing and start whining. Don't be a Dick.
No one can protect you from what you desire, or from what you fear.
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This is nothing more than a poor excuse to defend the garbage that is Darkfall. "Anybody who doesn't like it was expecting WoW", No, anybody who didn't like it expected the game to be functional, but Darkfall is loaded with poor design decisions. Nowhere does the reviewer demand the game to be more like WoW, he makes it quite clear right at very start of the review that he is not expecting a WoW.
This is nothing more than a poor excuse to defend the garbage that is Darkfall. "Anybody who doesn't like it was expecting WoW", No, anybody who didn't like it expected the game to be functional, but Darkfall is loaded with poor design decisions. Nowhere does the reviewer demand the game to be more like WoW, he makes it quite clear right at very start of the review that he is not expecting a WoW.
Everybody seen WoW mentioned and started nerd raging, they failed to see him list multiple successful mmo's.
WoW, Lotro, SWG was even mentioned. He was not doing a full comparison of them either, he would take small bits that should be quite simply functional. IE. The looting.
The first review was a 2/10, assuming that the next review is a 6/10 and the reviewer says he doesn't like it but it is playable, etc. that shows that at the very least someone could possibly enjoy it. What a stupid company, and so unprofessional. Why wouldnt they accept?
Excuse me, the only sad thing about the review was that he did not cover half the problems. The lauded mob AI that is a compete joke, the awful crafting system, mostly empty landscape. I could go on and on. If you can't see all the major design flaws that make up this game then I really feel sorry for you.
Who the hell cares about boats etc if the combat and inventory is shit?? I for one couldn t stand the game as I beta tested it and to this day find the game an utter crapfest. Sorry but I can tell you I ve played the game as much as most people that are currently active subscribers and if you want i ll make a review. Not sure you would like what I have to say but I can tell you I ve played it plenty to get a good idea.
Tasos gains level 100 in back peddaling.
I'm Awesome, Deal With It.
my wife found him kinda sexy ...
Gross! Please don't post any photos of her...
2009 dfo released with less content then shadowbane which released years ago. Now the problem is there was a starvation diet taking place among the pvp mmo gamers and when a sourse of food was thought to exist word of mouth spread like wildfire then morphed into dfo being perfect, no problems.
In the beta and game forums people were baned for asking and posting about the flaws that were not being addressed. The fanbois grew more bold whiped into a frenzy...and that is where we are now.
Tasos and dfo promised a haven for the pvp niche crowd. I was in beta, others were in beta and we said the game did not have the features listed not even half of the features listed and what was in game was unfunctional....unfun...broken...every weapon a mirror of another weapons powers, every spell tree a mirror of another spell tree...crafting boring...pve the worst yet in a mmo.
A 2/10 is generous imho. A game should never launch without actual thought out combat,pvp,pve, and crafting.
I don't know if this has been mentioned but, Darkfall isn't even listed on Metacritic.
Well, the problem is not really one review but the fact that Tasos are reacting in a way no tother game dev ever have...
DF might be brilliant or not but Tasos is sinking it anyways. Not even Smedley would handle things this badly, if he would have been more graceful we might not even have heard about it at all.
All games get bad reviews, even hit games like Diablo and Half life but as long as the game is good and it gets some good too it will still be a hit. But game devs that acts this way is far from good for DF, he should have pointed out the things the reviewer missed and just said he didnt agree with him, not something like this.
The whole thing is silly and every time Tasos opens his mouth about it he makes things worse.
He should either quit or at least hire in someone to handle the PR, heck even the Bagdad Bob aproach would be better ("Bad review? No, everybody loves our game"). Crying never made anything better. Ever.
Why does Tasos not just open the game up to other MMo reviewers, i mean let them in it the game is so great and get them to try it?? could it be the fact the game stinks , has crap graphics and is just 2 guys and 1 stick. leet pvp there.
Do you have any factual proof apart from Tasos's wild claims?
Tasos has no credit standing. Whatever he said, I tend to believe in the opposite. Stop trying to smear EG, when you know nothing as a fact.
Do you know the character Ed Zit was using? Have you talked to him, see him shout on the channels? You surely do not. So your 2 cents is just repeating some wild claims from Tasos, which none of us believe. You do not have a 2 cents at all.
I begin to wonder
If you feel after a few hours that the game is good, that is your view. Is it possible that the reviewer feels it in a different way and gave 2/10? At least Ed Zit give details, details where you can read and dispute or judge either way. That is enough, and better than your presentation, because apart from telling us you played for 4 hours, you said nothing else. How can you safely say that no one can dislike DF? Just because you like it during the first 4 hours? That is a reason? Oh god. What logic.
As for the credibility of Ed Zit, he has been criticised 4 times in his career? Oh big deal, ex-president G Bush has been accused of lying about the mass destruction weapon, about bin laden ... for 8 years. Now Ed Zit is a saint. Come on, before you come and educate me about trust Ed Zit or not, come with some solid information of your own. We read Tasos's babycry, we also read about how ppl said that Ed Zit was correct in the past. The games he dismissed are really bad games, game live Roma Victor has already vanished from the horizon. If you look at the past trends, you should never play DF. Games Ed Zit criticised have all turned out failures, and so DF should most like be another major flop.
Ed Zit gave 9/10 to LOTRo, and LOTRo is running smoothly on 300k sub. That is another indication Ed Zit sees from the average, he does not see from a narrow angle. That makes a good reviewer, review for the mass. If you already know DF is not for the mass, expect 2/10 or 0/10 from the mass, since you said DF deliberately not cater to them. So you cook some food you know its going to serve dogs, and you are angry because ppl look at the food and leave it? AV and the DF community treat others like dogs, or worse, carebear idiot whatever you call people, and yet expect people to respect them? Come on, I say AV and DF got what they deserve, a reciprocal of how they handle the gamers, and the kind of game they produce -- not cater to the general games, LOL.
So you said AV does not care about the rest of the gamers, they only plan to sell to a few dedicated. Good! But then why jump up and down when the rest give DF a 2/10. Tasos should not care, Tasos should feel happy b/c that the rest do not like the game. You do not develop for them, you develop a game for dogs, and people naturally will be turned away. Why is Tasos having issues with 2/10? What the fuss? There is nothing wrong in Tasos cooking food for the dogs, but Tasos should shut up when people refuse to eat dog food. This so called last response from Tasos, and all the earlier responses from Tasos is simply idiotic.
As for EG should not run the review, I say the opposite, I say so. Thank you EG for once again showing us what Tasos and his game is all about, and this time, on stage so everyone can have another round of laugh.
That shows where Tasos bury his head, in the sand, or the so called sand-box he is trying to sell to us, for a full $50.
As I say, cant reason with you people..the feature list is not what this issue is about.
So you restrict ppl to quoting only those information to your favour? The feature list IS the primary source of contention. That DF is released as a falsely advertised product, and is still running a false ad on its web.
If Tasos has so much time on hand arguing with EG, why not spend a few minutes updating the feature list?
Or you mean Tasos is so incompetent that he cannot update it?
Or you think Tasos sees the feature list on the official web as not important, weeks after the so call final game is available to some for purchase? Oh well I will not deal with such a producer. What is important to this producer? Not us, not information we read about, what is important to him is cat fight and babycry over a review.
Either way, good bye to Tasos and whatever he is trying to sell to me.
Exactly, why didnt they get someone who likes this type of game to try it, you get a guy who likes wor and war and aoc and of course hes going to trash a pvp full loot game that is skill base.
Oh great, DF is so unpopular and such a failure, that it requires a fanboy to do the review.
Why don't you ask the AI bot to do the review. Tasos tells us that his AI testers are so good, they can debug the game for him.
Bottom line, DF is such a trash game, you need to be a convert in order to give a good review. In other words, if you are not brain washed, stay out.
Relax Izure, have some faith in your precious game, there is at least one "commentary" in MMORPG, from a self confessed carebear, who said DF is not that horrible. You do not need to stop playing DF, because of 2/10 from a review by EG. Fact is, if you really have faith in your game, do you need to come here and cry every other minute because of 1 review? Don't you have other better things to do in DF? Oh dear, its already boring now beating each other silly for a few weeks?
Sorry and no. EG stood by the review, and refuse to take it down. That is the right way for a magazine. No the revierwer is not fired, nor banned. He is gaining immense popularity and credit, being the first reviewer to opening telling us the emperor's new coat.
Since you do not play DF, how the hell do you know the reviewer is wrong. Why do you think he is clearly a WoW lover? Why a thinly disguised fanboy defence. Not everyone who dislikes DF plays WoW. WoW only has 12million subs, there are more than 12 million gamers on earth, and not everyone else like DF. Fact is, you have a harder and harder time finding DF lovers.
So stop worrying about WoW, dear fanboy, WoW is not going to worry about DF, nor will WoW players come to DF. If you like DF stay there, if you do not play DF, stop pulling WoW into the picture. In other words, start talking without mentioning WoW everytime you type. It betrays your fanboy identity.
(didnt read all, just the 1st page) but as i already said, that review was probably too much to the point and not very far off teh marking. With EG offering to have a new review and reviewer(s) on it and Tasos turning them down, just proves that they didnt want it confirming (or any more problems being discovered).
Its plain and simple fact that the game sucks, way too many reviews have given it a thumbs down, word of mouth from actual players have given it a thumbs down and this (fly all out of proportions) argument between EG and Tasos has just confirmed that things are not goign very well with DFO. Now they are saying none of them actually logged in to make the review LOL I would say they did log in, they did play the game, and they did junk it and say what they played, felt, and saw.
Its the emperor's new coat, and someone dare talk about the truth.
QQ More please.
Lineage 2 a game that i love recived bad reviews from many sites but i still played it and loved it. and mmorpg player rarely look at reviews imo, mmorpg is different than reguler games its more personal so the only way to see if you like a game is to test it out yourseelf no review should effect this.
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Spot on Sgt.
The more they babycry, the more I wonder, what the hell are the fanboys doing here? They should be enjoying the game during its honeymoon period.
Spot on Sgt.
The more they babycry, the more I wonder, what the hell are the fanboys doing here? They should be enjoying the game during its honeymoon period.
mm yep, if id listend to all the troll post about Aion id have been missing out on this jewl...3 years and worth the wait
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End result: Everyone loses and there's nothing you can do about it.
Night.
A couple of months ago I read a review of Darkfall on this website by Paragus Rants, a player in the game. The review seemed to me to be very Objective. More importantly to me, it included enough information for a fan of Asheron's Call, Shadowbane and EVE Online to buy the game and try it out.
While waiting to buy the game I noticed that the forums for Darkfall itself were full of posts by Whiners and Haters, as I call them, most of which I ignored, since I am capable of reaching my own conclusions about whether I want to play a particular game.
I have played almost every day since I was able to purchase the game and I really enjoy it. BUT IT ISN'T FOR EVERYONE. The developers have a unique vision for what their game should be. In many ways Darkfall is like a lot of games you may have already played, and in many other ways it differs. If you play the game you will discover that if you liked playing Asheron's Call, Shadowbane, EVE Online and any other similar MMORPG on a PvP server, then you are likely to enjoy Darkfall.
If you are a potential buyer who makes decisions based on reviews, then I recommend reading the excellent reviews by Paragus Rants. I haven't bothered to look at the Eurogamer review, since I am already in game. I recommend the game personally, but you may not like the very individual choices made by the developers. They have a very firm idea of what they want their game to be. So far I like their choices.
The only real problem in the game is the same problem a player faces in any game - new players on the server will have a bit of a challenge coping with players who were on since the first month. But this is true in all of these games. If and when there is a new server, whether Eropean or American, there will be a slightly better opportunity to play on a level field, but late comers to PvP games will always be behind the curve to veteran players, regardless of the game. So, no problem. Just get in a guild and get good at what you like to do best.
And remember, it may be PvP but it is still a game. Enjoy yourself and have a good time. And when you stop having fun, find a different way to spend your time. If you keep doing something you don't enjoy, and become a Whiner and a Hater, you have also become a Fool, if you weren't one already. See Dick play, see Dick lose interest. See Dick keep playing and start whining. Don't be a Dick.
No one can protect you from what you desire, or from what you fear.