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Benthane
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I'm curious, how many people here have heard of www.thezeitgeistmovement.com or www.thevenusproject.com?
I find that this may be the way to go due to how our Economy is doing. You can watch an interesting video here. video.google.com/videoplay
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So who has the responsibility to distribute the resources? It seems more like a bunch of pseudo marxist fools dreaming about an idyllic society in a universe where the strong don't take advantage of the weak and no one has a desire for power, ridiculous in my opinion.
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
CS Lewis
Both videos are Illuminati Propaganda. The Venus Project is also called the Luciferian Project as well. Read Georgia Guide Stones and tell me how that does not compliment what they are trying to tell you in Addendum.
I think its a good idea to understand what is happening to our society on all levels. If you look at everything going on in the news about Politics, Capitalism, The Environment you can't help but feel that something big is about to happen. We're in big trouble now and it's clear by the posts you two have made that the reality of the situation is above your heads. Put your differences aside for a moment, take a look at what would be better, our current way of life and continuing down this path of destruction or finding a new way that is unrestricted by the bindings of Money.
I want you to watch one more video. video.google.com/videosearch
If you are in support of Alex Jones and his fight against Tyranny, the illuminati, The rockefellors and other World order groups then you might be interested in researching more about what Zeitgeist is.
Ahhh so your one of these conspiracy theorists that believe in the illuminati and how some dark conspiracy of capitalists are trying to take over the world weith globalisation and how communism is a conspiracy and 911 was setup by these dark organisations that are trying to brainwash us, right?
Get a fucking grip mate.
Even if it were true, what does it really matter? No one can stop them and who really cares aslong as we have the internet and beer? The Illuminati, you must be a few sticks short of a bundle mate, after 300 fucking years this imaginary organisation still hasn't taken over the planet so I wouldn't get my knickers in a twist about it now.
Oh and by the way, the tooth fairy faked the moon landings and crop circles are created by Peter Pan and alien humans from the future trying to avert the 2012 Armagedon. Which is why we invaded Iraq to prevent it and you can watch some crazy fucker explain it at ww.youtube/2 hours/of/your/life/you'll/never/get/back.com.
Get a fucking grip!
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
CS Lewis
Ahhh so your one of these conspiracy theorists that believe in the illuminati and how some dark conspiracy of capitalists are trying to take over the world weith globalisation and how communism is a conspiracy and 911 was setup by these dark organisations that are trying to brainwash us, right?
Get a fucking grip mate.
Even if it were true, what does it really matter? No one can stop them and who really cares aslong as we have the internet and beer? The Illuminati, you must be a few sticks short of a bundle mate, after 300 fucking years this imaginary organisation still hasn't taken over the planet so I wouldn't get my knickers in a twist about it now.
Oh and by the way, the tooth fairy faked the moon landings and crop circles are created by Peter Pan and alien humans from the future trying to avert the 2012 Armagedon. Which is why we invaded Iraq to prevent it and you can watch some crazy fucker explain it at ww.youtube/2 hours/of/your/life/you'll/never/get/back.com.
Get a fucking grip!
Rofl, this is great.
O_o o_O
Ahhh so your one of these conspiracy theorists that believe in the illuminati and how some dark conspiracy of capitalists are trying to take over the world weith globalisation and how communism is a conspiracy and 911 was setup by these dark organisations that are trying to brainwash us, right?
Get a fucking grip mate.
Even if it were true, what does it really matter? No one can stop them and who really cares aslong as we have the internet and beer? The Illuminati, you must be a few sticks short of a bundle mate, after 300 fucking years this imaginary organisation still hasn't taken over the planet so I wouldn't get my knickers in a twist about it now.
Oh and by the way, the tooth fairy faked the moon landings and crop circles are created by Peter Pan and alien humans from the future trying to avert the 2012 Armagedon. Which is why we invaded Iraq to prevent it and you can watch some crazy fucker explain it at ww.youtube/2 hours/of/your/life/you'll/never/get/back.com.
Get a fucking grip!
And so the misleading continues. Go buy yourself another 100 foot boat. All hail capitalism, 99% of the world will be in poverty but hey, I got my boat. Your just another robot.
You got it all backwards. But, your only human, you are easily manipulated.
Ahhh so your one of these conspiracy theorists that believe in the illuminati and how some dark conspiracy of capitalists are trying to take over the world weith globalisation and how communism is a conspiracy and 911 was setup by these dark organisations that are trying to brainwash us, right?
Get a fucking grip mate.
Even if it were true, what does it really matter? No one can stop them and who really cares aslong as we have the internet and beer? The Illuminati, you must be a few sticks short of a bundle mate, after 300 fucking years this imaginary organisation still hasn't taken over the planet so I wouldn't get my knickers in a twist about it now.
Oh and by the way, the tooth fairy faked the moon landings and crop circles are created by Peter Pan and alien humans from the future trying to avert the 2012 Armagedon. Which is why we invaded Iraq to prevent it and you can watch some crazy fucker explain it at ww.youtube/2 hours/of/your/life/you'll/never/get/back.com.
Get a fucking grip!
And so the misleading continues. Go buy yourself another 100 foot boat. All hail capitalism, 99% of the world will be in poverty but hey, I got my boat. Your just another robot.
You got it all backwards. But, your only human, you are easily manipulated.
Who buy 100 foot long boat anyway.. And I think 99% of the world would be in poverty in a marxist system. The top would load their pocket the same way.
edit: It's funny how you speak of manipulation.. you talk like a guru and they normally manipulate their victim (cult member).
Do your research, thats all I'm saying. Being ignorant will not help you.
www.youtube.com/watch
Who is right, you or me? You will only believe what you want.
I always wished to be an ignorant, they are blessed.
I actually did my research on the Illuminati starting in 2004 and still currently doing so on an on and off basis. The Zeitgiest is Illuminati propaganda because they are telling you what they are doing by revlealing what they have done. In the first movie in part 1, of course they want you to believe there is no God. Part 2 and 3 are true, yes. I assume your new at this. A lot of people who are awake can tell you that the zeitgiest is massive propaganda. Yes I do believe the Illuminati does exist, ect. The Illuminti are massively influenced by the occult. They reside in many organizations but mainly in high degrees of Freemasonry. They do indeed worship Lucifer, see Immorals and Dogma by Albert Pike.
They have you drawn in by exposing themselves and offereing a new solution. They do this all the time. They create the problem, to have the excuse for the solution they have created. A good example is the democrat and republican parties. It seems as if the republican parties always spend too much money or get us in a war. The democrat party seems to fix that and seems to have a better economy when they are in office. Not including this one. lol. The Zeitgiests solution to fix these problems are exactly what we will see in the New World Order. And no, if you ask I do not support thier solution nor do I support what we have going on today.
To me Alex Jones is a double sided sword for me. He does have some good infomation but doesn't really go into the infomation behind it. His explanation for the unfinished trapazoid, (its not a pyramid) means the Eye is the Illuminati who watches their sheep. That is not it at all, but its a good try. I suggest you to watch Bill Schnoebelen's videos because he can explain it better than I. He has documented proof he was in the Illuminati, but not with the political reign. Research Bill Schnoebelen "Exposing the Illuminati from within." But I am glad at least your aware, at the moment your off the path just a little bit.
I got sucked into Zeitgeist once upon a time.....
then I learned to do my own research :-)
And what has your research revealed?
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The real power is smart enough to hide itself BEHIND the throne. Every President is a Public Relations agent for that obscured power, and nothing more.
And what has your research revealed?
A. The amount of wrong information in the first Zeitgeist outweighs the amount of reliable information.
B. No matter how many people can see the wrongs in society, there will always be more that prefer to remain ignorant to them.
C. "The perfect society" (I.E. Zeitgeist 2) is too subjective for the Venus Project to ever happen.
This is a friendly reminder to try to avoid the hate or flaming in this topic, and also to stick to the topic.
Please also regard cautiously what you post here Video-wise, it can cause some agression.
Alex Macen,
I still don't see the connection between the illuminati and Zeitgeist. I do agree that there is a lot of work to be done with how to achieve a resource based economy. There are many things that need to happen and many things that will come up as we move forward that we will address as we discover them.
The illuminati have been around forever, it was just recently that the Bilderberg group (illuminati heads) was actually made public even though there have been people trying to publicize them for generations. They want to control the world through enslavement by poverty. While Zeitgeist is wanting a unification of mankind through shared resources and technology so that we all can live in abundance. They are two different sides of the coin, one Evil world martial law by forceful working (enslavement), and one good by attempting to solve our scarcity problems and eliminate poverty through shared resources.
illuminati=Bad, the puppetiering of men. Money is what pulls all the strings. Violence is the big money earner. Oh, we're short on cash or resources, lets go to war.
Zeitgeist=Good, Abundance for all with technology and automation. There is no money, no elite group or person, only the mutual respect for science and the planet.
And no, I'm not new to this. I watched the first video 2 years ago and just tossed it away like any other Dramatization through Movies. I did not like the approach to religion even though they made a good point about violence and religion. I completely agree with the way they protrayed the monetary system and how it can only survive with violence.
You can't say that you have done the research when you clearly have not.
Zeitgeist ideas = good.....but they will never happen.
Your probably right, they may never happen because the people that want it to happen don't have any power or money. Money controls the world right now. We can't pull out of this > www.brillig.com/debt_clock/ so there will have to be something that changes. I want the good, as I wish everyone does, but to many believe in capitalism as the ultimate Hero.
A very good read. www.eui.eu/Personal/Researchers/georgd/JMpaper_duernecker.pdf At least this is something everyone agrees with.
Answers will be in green.
After watching all the conspiracy theory vids (if you have the kind of time these guys have!), I suggest watching this short 5 minute vid here click.
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
CS Lewis