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Can I Suggest Paragus1 Gets Removed From The "Spotlight Blogs"?

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  • gruminatorgruminator Member Posts: 141

    i dont have a problem with his blog.

    but this thread accualy raises a interesting question for me.

    if a person with a negative view on darkfall took his/her time to write a blog about it (not just pure hate, but good and sound critic)

    would they get the same treatment as him?

  • BlazzBlazz Member Posts: 321

    Eh - he seems to be pro-Darkfall, likely because he is part of the people who have waited for it, and have played it, and have been blinded from the dull parts by the fact that it's actually out. The fanboys of this game (or just anticipating purchasers, to be more respectful) have been in a cave of screenshots, test videos, and text for the past few years (what was it, 8?) and have just gotten out of the tunnel. It's bright, and their eyes haven't gotten used to it yet.

    What I'm hearing about this game is that it's like, too player driven, and there aren't nearly enough solo-able mobs to kill (to level up by yourself, without a clan)

    That said, the game seems to be join a clan or go home. And I hate people, and I don't want to have to learn new names and shiz. If I played this game, I would want to play it doing whatever the hell I feel like doing. And I don't want to be ganked by some guy in his underwear with 100 skill in daggers stabbing me a few times in the face outside where I'm trying to rest.

    Maybe when problems are fixed up, and I hear an objective review from someone (if you go to the darkfallonline forums, there is an objective review by one of the players that I quite liked, giving it a 6/10) in a few months that says that it's gotten a lot better, with more soloable mobs and such giving a single player the opportunity to play the game without lube and have it comfortable (masturbation, rather than anal rape) then maybe I'll fork out the $50 US, which for me in Aus would be more like $85 or something.

    For now, I'm perfectly happy with what I'm doing, and what I've got.

    I am playing EVE and it's alright... level V skills are a bit much.

    You all need to learn to spell.

  • SuperCrapSuperCrap Member Posts: 324

    Sorry, I got to call it like I see it.  He sound like a straight shill to me.  Whether he actually is one or not doesn't matter in my view, because the net effect is the same.  Paragus writes very well, maybe that is part of his problem, because it comes off very polished, focused, and agenda driven for a player blog.  The feeling I get when I read anything Paragus writes on here is like I am talking to one of the developers' sales reps or something.  Just my impression.  As for him being taken off, I don't really care.

     

    The one and only.

  • KienKien Member Posts: 520

    His articles are excellent, however I agree they come off more as slick marketing material than as a real attempt to discuss the game.

  • SpoonpottSpoonpott Member Posts: 180

    As a disliker of Darkfall, I like reading Paragus' blogs.

    Take a chill pill, man, its just a video game.

    The rules of Debate are really simple; once you have to stoop to insults instead of facts, logic, or reason to try and win your argument, you've lost.

  • daarcodaarco Member UncommonPosts: 4,275

    But isnt Paragus blog the only place you can get information about the DF gameplay? (without playing it) He writes pages about every feature : )

    And 99% of all other wtitten text here is trolling anyway, so the blog is a good counter weight. I even think the haters is what makes Paragus blogs so important. It should be for people wanting to know, not guess or lie. And just because you like a MMO, it does not make you a fanboi, remember that.

     

  • DarkPonyDarkPony Member Posts: 5,566
    Originally posted by SuperCrap


    He sound like a straight shill to me.  Whether he actually is one or not doesn't matter in my view"

    Glad you aren't a judge.

    "He sounds like a *insert type of criminal here* to me. Whether he actually is one doesn't matter in my view"

    Lol ...

    And again; you, sir, and some others, are so narrowmindedly minding only your OWN opinions, that everything which derives too much from it must either be wrong of even fraudulent.

    To me, as a pretty neutral observer most of the stuff Paragus wrote about was pure and simple informative in nature, also it is highly unlikely for AV to spend anything more then a dime on marketing; it's just 'not them'. Also they aren't served with advertising at the moment since they seem to have some issues releasing the game to a wide audience.

    p.s.

    Have you played the game?

    If so, how long?

    And how about those FACTS to back up your accusations?

    Decency and Justice are still waiting for those, mr. Judge ...

     

  • DarkPonyDarkPony Member Posts: 5,566
    Originally posted by daarco


    But isnt Paragus blog the only place you can get information about the DF gameplay? (without playing it) He writes pages about every feature : )
    And 99% of all other wtitten text here is trolling anyway, so the blog is a good counter weight. I even think the haters is what makes Paragus blogs so important. It should be for people wanting to know, not guess or lie.
     

     

    Very nicely observed. This board is so thick of hatred that it is impossible to get some neutral information or even information from those that play actually the game besides Paragus' blog.

    I say give the man a firggin' prize, for god's sake.

  • JGMIIIJGMIII Member Posts: 1,282

    I actually enjoy his blogs.

    Why stop the guy when hes actually doing a service to players that may be interested in the game?

    I've learnt alot about DF because of his blogs, I say let him keep writing them.

     

    Playing: EvE, Ryzom

  • DevourDevour Member Posts: 902
    Originally posted by DarkPony


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    Have you actually read a single point in this thread? Or are you just taking things out of context because you think it makes you look smart?

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  • SortranSortran Member Posts: 148

    Meh, Devour your spinning out of control. Give up, save yourself some time by not typing and go play whatever game or games you like.

    I dont care if someone is payed or not to do write ups on games. You can advertise darkfall all you want, and results arent going to vary much. Give it a rest.

    Playing: Not much actively.
    Games played: to many to list, been playing MMO's since 2001
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  • pwnzorellOrpwnzorellOr Member Posts: 216
    Originally posted by daarco


    But isnt Paragus blog the only place you can get information about the DF gameplay? (without playing it) He writes pages about every feature : )
    And 99% of all other wtitten text here is trolling anyway, so the blog is a good counter weight. I even think the haters is what makes Paragus blogs so important. It should be for people wanting to know, not guess or lie. And just because you like a MMO, it does not make you a fanboi, remember that.
     



     

    daarco, i'm always amazed how you guys see yourself as fans only and not as fanbois and then critics like many of us (and yes i agree that there are some trolls) as blind haters, when we are mostly not. we've played the game and we think the game is crap and we do have lifes you know and we do have other games we play, but what motivates us to stay here and post is the way AV and especially tasos treated us and lied to us. this is why we are here and it is definately not 99% trolling here, we provide facts and arguments that many of you guys simply ignore or deny.

    about the blog and the motivation of the hate :

    many people who read paragus's blogs may misinterpret them as some kind of review and gaze in awe how awesome this game is and pay for it. there is no trial, you have to pay RETAIL price for an INDY game to find out that it lacks solid gameplay, indepth skillsystem, decent alignment system and most important FEATURES that are still being advertised on their website. this is horribly WRONG and if we as gamers don't step up and fight against that some other crappy bunch of retarded hobby programmers will do it again and again. it is worse enough that some major companies did something like that before, even when it was not in such a dramatic way and with better customer support and PR.

    so guys, stop playing the troll or the carebear card, most of us who hate away here were most likely pking in other games when some of you didn't even know how to turn on a computer, so we do know what a good pvp game is about , it is not that we dislike the concept, WE LOVE IT (!). we hate the company, not neccessarily the game (even tho it is crap, yes).

    we are here to tell the truth and to warn people, that's it. god, i wish my english wouldn't be that rusty, but i hope you get what i am talking about.

    PEACE

    jedi mind - heavenly divine, steadily shine in '99!

  • AdminAdmin Administrator RarePosts: 5,623

    I am not part of the content staff since I sell ad space for the site - however I am quite sure that we highlight blogs for a few key reasons:

    • Quality of the writing
    • Quality of the presentation (good use of images, formatting, etc)
    • Popularity (how many hits they get)
    • Ranking (how many bumps vs buries)

    These are *not* official MMORPG.com writers - they are BLOGS - I think we make this pretty clear, or as clear as we possibly can.  If any blog on any other topic was this popular/good we would spotlight it - even if it was about basket weaving or water polo!  It is in our best interest to spotlight content that people gravitate to and talk about. 

    I know no one ever believes this, but we really don't care if you love or hate a game, we just care that you come HERE to love or hate it

    - MMORPG.COM Staff -

    The dead know only one thing: it is better to be alive.

  • StraddenStradden Managing EditorMember CommonPosts: 6,696
    Originally posted by Devour


    He's became a very, VERY sycophantic fankiddie, and an obvious shill. He's claimed to "have the ear of the developers" which, to me, suggests that he's doing nothing more than working the propaganda machine in order to get more subs for the game, and to feed Tasos' hunger for fankiddism.
    I mean, if he doesn't get removed, at least give a disclaimer that the information is probably extremely heavily biased TOWARDS Darkfall, because - I don't know about you - but I don't find the fact that new players may be convinced by heavy handed pro-Darkfall crap, just because it seems to be official and on the front page.
    TL;DR:

    Either remove Paragus1 from "Spotlight Blogs", or change him to something like "Official Darkfall Blog", so that people know to be wary of anything he might say.

    We won't be removing his blog from the Spotlighted area. it's that simple.

    First, it's a blog, we don't restrict the views of the bloggers in our community and the blogs that Paragus creates are well thought out, well written and more than deserve to be highlighted.

    I have read these blogs, and I don't get the impression that he is over-selling the game. Having read his work and spoken to him directly, I can tell you that he actually enjoys the game and wants to share his experiences in the game with everyone else. If someone actively plays a game, and subscribes to it, of COURSE they are going to like the game? Why would someone subscribe toa  game for any reason other than the fact that they like it?

     

    Look,  I agree that hard news on this site should be balanced an un-biased. it should be approached without a pre concieved notion either positive or negative and this is what I expect from all of my news and review staff. The fact of the matter is though that there is also room on this site for opinion, and there is no better place for that opinion than in the blogs. Look, I'm sorry that you don't share Paragus's opinion of the game, but that's not a reason to stop highlighting them, it's a reason for you personally to stop reading them.

    And before I get called a schill, or whatever else it is that I get called on a daily basis (which is both schill AND hater, by the way), If someone who actually plays Darkfall wants to create a blog written and presented as well as the Paragus blog and take a more negative viewpoint, I will be happy to highlight that blog as well. 

    The only place that we pass judgement on games as a site, is in the official review / preview or other similar feature. Correspondent features, BLOGS, these are opinion pieces, which have as much right to be in a professional publication as hard news does. Where companies run into trouble is when they are dishonest about what is and is not flat opinion. We make no bones about the fact that Paragus Rants is Phil's own blog. it just happens to be an exceptionally well thought out and presented one.

    Hope that clears things up for you.

    Cheers,
    Jon Wood
    Managing Editor
    MMORPG.com

  • sanedorsanedor Member Posts: 485

    There you go, now we just need a person with an account and willing to kill a few more brain cells each week to keep playing and report, o sorry blog the truth about the true DF.

  • DarkPonyDarkPony Member Posts: 5,566
    Originally posted by Devour

    Originally posted by DarkPony


    <snip>



     

    Have you actually read a single point in this thread?

     

    I did, but you sure haven't understood mine.

    Anyhow, glad to read the official replies here^

    I hope they did a better job of convincing you and some other people that another opinion doesn't necessarily mean it's false or written by a fraud.

    :)

  • summitussummitus Member UncommonPosts: 1,414
    Originally posted by Admin


    I am not part of the content staff since I sell ad space for the site - however I am quite sure that we highlight blogs for a few key reasons:

    Quality of the writing
    Quality of the presentation (good use of images, formatting, etc)
    Popularity (how many hits they get)
    Ranking (how many bumps vs buries)

    These are *not* official MMORPG.com writers - they are BLOGS - I think we make this pretty clear, or as clear as we possibly can.  If any blog on any other topic was this popular/good we would spotlight it - even if it was about basket weaving or water polo!  It is in our best interest to spotlight content that people gravitate to and talk about. 
    I know no one ever believes this, but we really don't care if you love or hate a game, we just care that you come HERE to love or hate it



     

    What so now your condoning obvious Trolling ???

  • daarcodaarco Member UncommonPosts: 4,275
    Originally posted by summitus

    Originally posted by Admin


    I am not part of the content staff since I sell ad space for the site - however I am quite sure that we highlight blogs for a few key reasons:

    Quality of the writing
    Quality of the presentation (good use of images, formatting, etc)
    Popularity (how many hits they get)
    Ranking (how many bumps vs buries)

    These are *not* official MMORPG.com writers - they are BLOGS - I think we make this pretty clear, or as clear as we possibly can.  If any blog on any other topic was this popular/good we would spotlight it - even if it was about basket weaving or water polo!  It is in our best interest to spotlight content that people gravitate to and talk about. 
    I know no one ever believes this, but we really don't care if you love or hate a game, we just care that you come HERE to love or hate it



     

    What so now your condoning obvious Trolling ???



     

    Even the trolls need a good place to read about DF! And Paragus is the best they have. Every time Paragus have done a new blog, all the trolls go and see what they can troll about untill the next one. Then they will have something to do for a few weeks : )

    So it all make sense.

     

  • mrw0lfmrw0lf Member Posts: 2,269
    Originally posted by SuperCrap


    Sorry, I got to call it like I see it.  He sound like a straight shill to me.  Whether he actually is one or not doesn't matter in my view, because the net effect is the same.  Paragus writes very well, maybe that is part of his problem, because it comes off very polished, focused, and agenda driven for a player blog.  The feeling I get when I read anything Paragus writes on here is like I am talking to one of the developers' sales reps or something.  Just my impression.  As for him being taken off, I don't really care.
     

     



    Which is coincidental because every single time I read something you write I am filled by the knowledge you are some dev working for a competitor of DF. Afterall bad rep is easier to sell than the pros of your own game.

    Please someone ban this schill. I mean 'SuperCrap' come on its so obvious, has con written all over it. My suggestion everyone take what this guy says with a huge pinch of salt in the knowledge its cheaper for him to bad mouth the competitors than promote his own game.



     

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  • summitussummitus Member UncommonPosts: 1,414
    Originally posted by Stradden

    Originally posted by Devour


    He's became a very, VERY sycophantic fankiddie, and an obvious shill. He's claimed to "have the ear of the developers" which, to me, suggests that he's doing nothing more than working the propaganda machine in order to get more subs for the game, and to feed Tasos' hunger for fankiddism.
    I mean, if he doesn't get removed, at least give a disclaimer that the information is probably extremely heavily biased TOWARDS Darkfall, because - I don't know about you - but I don't find the fact that new players may be convinced by heavy handed pro-Darkfall crap, just because it seems to be official and on the front page.
    TL;DR:

    Either remove Paragus1 from "Spotlight Blogs", or change him to something like "Official Darkfall Blog", so that people know to be wary of anything he might say.

    We won't be removing his blog from the Spotlighted area. it's that simple.

    First, it's a blog, we don't restrict the views of the bloggers in our community and the blogs that Paragus creates are well thought out, well written and more than deserve to be highlighted.

    I have read these blogs, and I don't get the impression that he is over-selling the game. Having read his work and spoken to him directly, I can tell you that he actually enjoys the game and wants to share his experiences in the game with everyone else. If someone actively plays a game, and subscribes to it, of COURSE they are going to like the game? Why would someone subscribe toa  game for any reason other than the fact that they like it?

     

    Look,  I agree that hard news on this site should be balanced an un-biased. it should be approached without a pre concieved notion either positive or negative and this is what I expect from all of my news and review staff. The fact of the matter is though that there is also room on this site for opinion, and there is no better place for that opinion than in the blogs. Look, I'm sorry that you don't share Paragus's opinion of the game, but that's not a reason to stop highlighting them, it's a reason for you personally to stop reading them.

    And before I get called a schill, or whatever else it is that I get called on a daily basis (which is both schill AND hater, by the way), If someone who actually plays Darkfall wants to create a blog written and presented as well as the Paragus blog and take a more negative viewpoint, I will be happy to highlight that blog as well. 

    The only place that we pass judgement on games as a site, is in the official review / preview or other similar feature. Correspondent features, BLOGS, these are opinion pieces, which have as much right to be in a professional publication as hard news does. Where companies run into trouble is when they are dishonest about what is and is not flat opinion. We make no bones about the fact that Paragus Rants is Phil's own blog. it just happens to be an exceptionally well thought out and presented one.

    Hope that clears things up for you.

    Let me get this straight the OP called this person

     

    Quote  " VERY sycophantic fankiddie, and an obvious shill" and your condoning this ?

    So now anyone can throw personal insults like this at anyone with impunity and no action from Admin or Mods ..

     

  • slask777slask777 Member Posts: 706

    Jeez...It's a blog, a well written one even and I think most people with atleast half a brain take blogs for what they are, OPINIONS written down.

    Blogs are, and most probably always will be heavilly opinionated. Look, I have no interest in the game whatsoever and think AV is amataurish at best with the biggest moron ever to hit the gaming scene at the helm, but I enjoy Paragus' writing. He writes well, form his sentences with thought and cover every aspect of the game. Atleast his blogs are better than the myriad of 'omfg diz game sux' posts I see around various forums.

    Edit: Heh, just to be an ass I'm gonna go read his latest and leave a message how well written and thoughtful it was, if it is that ofcourse but when you look at his former blogging I don't see why it wont be

    ---
    Grammar nazi's. This one is for you.

  • egotripegotrip Member Posts: 875

    The Managing Editor and Admin have spoken , all words lose their worth after this point

    Iiii-iiiiiit's.... me!!! *Hooray*

  • StraddenStradden Managing EditorMember CommonPosts: 6,696
    Originally posted by summitus

    Originally posted by Stradden

    Originally posted by Devour


    He's became a very, VERY sycophantic fankiddie, and an obvious shill. He's claimed to "have the ear of the developers" which, to me, suggests that he's doing nothing more than working the propaganda machine in order to get more subs for the game, and to feed Tasos' hunger for fankiddism.
    I mean, if he doesn't get removed, at least give a disclaimer that the information is probably extremely heavily biased TOWARDS Darkfall, because - I don't know about you - but I don't find the fact that new players may be convinced by heavy handed pro-Darkfall crap, just because it seems to be official and on the front page.
    TL;DR:

    Either remove Paragus1 from "Spotlight Blogs", or change him to something like "Official Darkfall Blog", so that people know to be wary of anything he might say.

    We won't be removing his blog from the Spotlighted area. it's that simple.

    First, it's a blog, we don't restrict the views of the bloggers in our community and the blogs that Paragus creates are well thought out, well written and more than deserve to be highlighted.

    I have read these blogs, and I don't get the impression that he is over-selling the game. Having read his work and spoken to him directly, I can tell you that he actually enjoys the game and wants to share his experiences in the game with everyone else. If someone actively plays a game, and subscribes to it, of COURSE they are going to like the game? Why would someone subscribe toa  game for any reason other than the fact that they like it?

     

    Look,  I agree that hard news on this site should be balanced an un-biased. it should be approached without a pre concieved notion either positive or negative and this is what I expect from all of my news and review staff. The fact of the matter is though that there is also room on this site for opinion, and there is no better place for that opinion than in the blogs. Look, I'm sorry that you don't share Paragus's opinion of the game, but that's not a reason to stop highlighting them, it's a reason for you personally to stop reading them.

    And before I get called a schill, or whatever else it is that I get called on a daily basis (which is both schill AND hater, by the way), If someone who actually plays Darkfall wants to create a blog written and presented as well as the Paragus blog and take a more negative viewpoint, I will be happy to highlight that blog as well. 

    The only place that we pass judgement on games as a site, is in the official review / preview or other similar feature. Correspondent features, BLOGS, these are opinion pieces, which have as much right to be in a professional publication as hard news does. Where companies run into trouble is when they are dishonest about what is and is not flat opinion. We make no bones about the fact that Paragus Rants is Phil's own blog. it just happens to be an exceptionally well thought out and presented one.

    Hope that clears things up for you.

    Let me get this straight the OP called this person

     

    Quote  " VERY sycophantic fankiddie, and an obvious shill" and your condoning this ?

    So now anyone can throw personal insults like this at anyone with impunity and no action from Admin or Mods ..

    I'm not fully understanding why it is you're looking for a fight here, but let me address your concerns.

    First, did you report the post? modeation is neither mine nor Admin's department. These are handled by moderators that need to be made away of infractions so that they can determine whether or not to take action. Obviously you were offended on somoene else's behalf here. Reporting it is your proper course of action.

    Now, as to your response to Admin: No one is "condoning obvious trolling." Simply expressing a negative opinion of something does not make you a troll. Simply expressing a positive opinion about something does not make you a fanboi. All that Admin said was that we personally do not care whether your opinion is positive or negative, so long as you come here to discuss it. What e didn't say, that should have gone without saying is: Within the confines of our Rules of Conduct. 

    Hope that clears thigns up for you. 

    Cheers,
    Jon Wood
    Managing Editor
    MMORPG.com

  • DarkPonyDarkPony Member Posts: 5,566
    Originally posted by summitus

    *snop*

    Let me get this straight the OP called this person

     

    Quote  " VERY sycophantic fankiddie, and an obvious shill" and your condoning this ?

    So now anyone can throw personal insults like this at anyone with impunity and no action from Admin or Mods ..

     

     

    Yes, I'd like to see some 'uncondonement' as well. Unfounded accusations + personal insults like that are pushing the limit, but sadly those are all too common in the DF part of this site. So if they start here I'd love to see them modding this whole board in a somewhat stricter manner.

    edit: it kinda rubs off to the whole site to have such a cesspool rot and fester, I've read multiple replies of people 'giving up on Mmorpg.com' because of this. Of course there should be freedom of speech and yes, you are allowed to 'hate' a game, but at least try to keep it civil and back up accusations with facts. It has become virtually impossible to find worthwhile information on this game with all the troll/hate threads around.

  • summitussummitus Member UncommonPosts: 1,414
    Originally posted by egotrip


    The Managing Editor and Admin have spoken , all words lose their worth after this point



     

    Yeah your right choosing to ignore their own site rules of conduct in the process ... very sad.

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