Originally posted by Sneakers05 and it was fun yes, because it was hard and challenging and a thrill and you were never alone because you were in groups and you say you had to kill the same mob in the same area over and over. I dont know what Korean Grinder you were playing but back in the days of EQ before WoW , there were multiple places a group could go to get level up and have fun
Shame on you! You want tough mobs that can actually put up a fight? Well that might be fine for you but you need to think about other people.
What about poor little Timmy with ADD who can't focus on one thing for more than five seconds? He's going to look away from the fight and die because of it. Is that what you want? IS IT?
And you want games to encourage grouping? Shame on you again! What's going to happen to Timmy when he tries to group? He's going to look away and get the group in trouble that's what! And then you know what's going to happen? Do you? People in the group are going to be mean to Timmy! They're going to say unkind things to him! That's going to hurt Timmy's feelings. Do you really want to be responsible for Timmy's hurt feelings? DO YOU?
You're an awful, awful man!
Yes I do want to hurt Timmy"s feelings ...not for any specific reason I just dont like Timmy.
Timmy is a carebear, it's his own fault.
You Timmy haters should be dragged off to a internment camp Canada and re-educated before you ruin the internets for everybody!
you guys that want the olden golden days of EQ and UO it will never happen, but what is happening is this ball and cup.
What do you mean "you guys"? Sounds like it's you who want the "olden golden days of EQ and UO". Not saying they weren't golden, just finding it strange that you distance yourself from the guys who want the same as you. :-p
I, for one, cannot believe there are so many posts on this thread.
Ok, first of all, this is MMORPG.com, and this titled "Lol you guys and your mmorpgs...mmorpgs are of the past now..." is obviously just someone trolling to get a rise out of the patrons of this site. Anyone who doesn't like MMORPGs can easily avoid this page by NEVER VISITING IT!
Why even give the poster the time of day? He's ignorant with nothing better to do, so as an attempt to break his boredom he decided to throw a troll out there and see who took the bait. Doing this is on the same annoyance level as talking at the movies. Why go to the movies if your just going to talk? You could have saved yourself 9 bucks by just staying home.
So thats my advice to you, Sneakers05. Just stay home. Stay where you are comfortable. You don't have to come to this site and cause yourself so much agony... so much pain... when you can easily avoid it. You're just a troll, plain and simple.
Reply as you like, but this is my last post in this thread, Sneakers05.
Originally posted by Martie I dont see anywhere in this thread about anyone saying wow ruined anything.
<Raises hand>
Um....If it would be helpfull I might be willing to say that.
Your forum name does you proud then. By your logic then for example the invention of the wheel ruined everything for cavemen because its quite obviuos the wheel ruined the way cavemen h unted and made things right? Oh yeah thats right no it didnt it aided them and helped them with hunting. To say wow ruined anything is a bloody joke beyond beleif, let me now to tell you what has ruined things;
1)You so called vets whining like bitches constantly
2)vets thinking hardcore= crappy game design.
3)Vets thinking sandbox means hardcore, NO it D0ES NOT.
4)You whining bitches that jump from game every 2 months saying you dont like it.
5) Thinking that somehow pathetic game dsign, and no features is hardcore, if you want hardcore then why dont u have just a plane grass gorund and duke it out with your fists because its quite obviuos, you hardcore players dont need wepaons armour, quests, levels, skills, or anything.
7)Thinking that somehow because a game that is polished and has features to aid the player is somehow ruining the mmo genre. If that was the case the lest all go back to the 1970s with balck and white screens and ping pong.
8) So called vets thinking they have the right to tell the majority of the playerbase what is a good mmo and what is crap.
NWESflash, Why dont all you so called vets get a grip on reality, because the MMO genre is moving on, and quite frankly either like it or PISS OFF, because the genre would be actually better without you so called "Vet experts". Nobody gives a crap what you people think anymore, hell you retards are still going on about SWG after all these years, probably when the new star wars game comes out you wont like it, hell even when MO comes out so called vets will hate it, or start saying the game is only for the so called hardcore thast why its no popular lol.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Someone should report this guy. I think he needs a break from virtual reality so he can get more actual reality in his diet. Maybe a little counseling as an appetizer?
Originally posted by Martie I dont see anywhere in this thread about anyone saying wow ruined anything.
<Raises hand>
Um....If it would be helpfull I might be willing to say that.
Your forum name does you proud then. By your logic then for example the invention of the wheel ruined everything for cavemen because its quite obviuos the wheel ruined the way cavemen h unted and made things right? Oh yeah thats right no it didnt it aided them and helped them with hunting. To say wow ruined anything is a bloody joke beyond beleif, let me now to tell you what has ruined things;
1)You so called vets whining like bitches constantly
2)vets thinking hardcore= crappy game design.
3)Vets thinking sandbox means hardcore, NO it D0ES NOT.
4)You whining bitches that jump from game every 2 months saying you dont like it.
5) Thinking that somehow pathetic game dsign, and no features is hardcore, if you want hardcore then why dont u have just a plane grass gorund and duke it out with your fists because its quite obviuos, you hardcore players dont need wepaons armour, quests, levels, skills, or anything.
7)Thinking that somehow because a game that is polished and has features to aid the player is somehow ruining the mmo genre. If that was the case the lest all go back to the 1970s with balck and white screens and ping pong.
8) So called vets thinking they have the right to tell the majority of the playerbase what is a good mmo and what is crap.
NWESflash, Why dont all you so called vets get a grip on reality, because the MMO genre is moving on, and quite frankly either like it or PISS OFF, because the genre would be actually better without you so called "Vet experts". Nobody gives a crap what you people think anymore, hell you retards are still going on about SWG after all these years, probably when the new star wars game comes out you wont like it, hell even when MO comes out so called vets will hate it, or start saying the game is only for the so called hardcore thast why its no popular lol.
Nice generalization on the MMO vet community. Did we all flock to darkfall? Because that's ALL I hear you complaining about. No we didn't. In fact a lot of the vets DON'T CARE ABOUT DARKFALL!!! Yet your still going on with "Half complete! Bad game design! Horrible UI! Then when no one plays its only because their not hardcore!"
NEWSFLASH!!!!
We aren't complaining about hardcore pvp here, we are complaining about freedom. Darkfall isn't the only things vets care about. We can tell whats a crap mmo and good one, because we KNOW what an mmo is supposed to be, and YOU DON'T HAVE TO listen to our opinion. The genre is shit now. Darkfall is shit. and you are one of the reasons.
Originally posted by Martie I dont see anywhere in this thread about anyone saying wow ruined anything.
<Raises hand>
Um....If it would be helpfull I might be willing to say that.
Your forum name does you proud then. By your logic then for example the invention of the wheel ruined everything for cavemen because its quite obviuos the wheel ruined the way cavemen h unted and made things right?
THAT'S RIGHT!
Whew, glad somebody can finally see it my way.
I mean really, things were so much better before we had wheels. Wheels just led to wheelbarrows which just let to putting things in the wheelbarrows and pushing them around. And you know how women are, sheesh, it was always, "Honey, put this in your wheelbarrow and push it over there." And wagons! God, don't even get me started on wagons. Because, I mean, then we just had to do all that extra messing around with oxen and donkeys and horses to pull the wagons and the wife screaming at us to clean out the stables because of the stink.
And then pretty soon we were farming and keeping livestock and working our butts off when all we really wanted to do was just go kill something and eat it. But, oh no, take a day off for some hunting and she's all like, "You lazy, no-account layabout. Always gallavanting around hunting with your friends and leaving me here alone with the kids to do all the work. Mandy's husband doesn't run off hunting all the time! Mandy's husband stays home and tends the fields and takes care of the livestock and tells her how much he appreciates her."
Originally posted by Martie I dont see anywhere in this thread about anyone saying wow ruined anything.
<Raises hand>
Um....If it would be helpfull I might be willing to say that.
Your forum name does you proud then. By your logic then for example the invention of the wheel ruined everything for cavemen because its quite obviuos the wheel ruined the way cavemen h unted and made things right?
THAT'S RIGHT!
Whew, glad somebody can finally see it my way.
I mean really, things were so much better before we had wheels. Wheels just led to wheelbarrows which just let to putting things in the wheelbarrows and pushing them around. And you know how women are, sheesh, it was always, "Honey, put this in your wheelbarrow and push it over there." And wagons! God, don't even get me started on wagons. Because, I mean, then we just had to do all that extra messing around with oxen and donkeys and horses to pull the wagons and the wife screaming at us to clean out the stables because of the stink.
And then pretty soon we were farming and keeping livestock and working our butts off when all we really wanted to do was just go kill something and eat it. But, oh no, take a day off for some hunting and she's all like, "You lazy, no-account layabout. Always gallavanting around hunting with your friends and leaving me here alone with the kids to do all the work. Mandy's husband doesn't run off hunting all the time! Mandy's husband stays home and tends the fields and takes care of the livestock and tells her how much he appreciates her."
Well you know what? I'm not Mandy's husband! OK?
Dude I miss the days of pre-round-wheel earth...Marties a n00b for crying for this nerf
Edit: Starting a petition to bring back the old days of square wheels.
Originally posted by Neanderthal What about poor little Timmy with ADD who can't focus on one thing for more than five seconds? He's going to look away from the fight and die because of it. Is that what you want? IS IT? Yes. And you want games to encourage grouping? Shame on you again! What's going to happen to Timmy when he tries to group? He's going to look away and get the group in trouble that's what! And then you know what's going to happen? Do you? People in the group are going to be mean to Timmy! They're going to say unkind things to him! That's going to hurt Timmy's feelings. Do you really want to be responsible for Timmy's hurt feelings? DO YOU? Yes. You're an awful, awful man! No, I'm an mmorpg player. Tell Timmy to go play Nintendogs while on Ventrillo. It should be more than enough "mmo" to keep him entertained.
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Ima bout to do a lot of ass kicking and bubblegum chewing in this thread, and im all out of bubble gum
"Come get some"
Damn that Avatar has me scared.....it's a pink bunny with a machine gun....nightmare's tonight.
Great stuff mate,love it .
If someone had came up to me in 1980 when I was on my Atari 2600 and said we will be playing games with thousands of people at the same time.I guess my response would have been,"but I only have 2 joysticks"
I have to agree to an extent. MMO's will always be around, but I think we've hit the peak of their popularity. I doubt there will be another mmo as big as WoW, but if there is, it will be by Blizzard again. For the first time since UO I am not subsribed to any mmos. I had subs to Eve, LOTRO, and AoC, but I lost all interest in playing them. Aion looks promising, but again, it's another fantasy theemed mmo that I've already played 50 times already.
you guys that want the olden golden days of EQ and UO it will never happen, but what is happening is this ball and cup.
Actually yes and no. If I ever make my break in the industry I am not going for the wow numbers. The only way to get back the hardcore crowd of old, is to to make that small niche sucessful. What alot of publishers and devs forget, is to simply have a steady subscriber base of a couple hundred thousand. If the mmo can sustain it's self and does not give into the new audience that is ermging from the new generation of mmo players. What I mean by the new audience of players; are the ones who want everything right now. By sustaining it self over a few years word of mouth will spread around like wildfire if the game is fun and especially if it has a good community What also hurts the game is the hype that the players protray it out to be and it fails at launch because of a large abundance of bugs or they claim to have all of these cool features and never make the launch. If the audience can see potential after launch the game already has a good start. What also is hurting the mmos are the community. I really wonder where mmos would of been if wow was never sucessful and each mmo had their share of several hundred thousand players. I bet we would see more quality games and less quanity.
The real money will come when devs wake up and realize the next hit will be the true next gen persistant world sandbox. Until then, new WoW copy MMOs will continue to fail and disappoint. If people want a WoW like game THEY WILL PLAY WOW!
Obviously thats not going to happen because there is a small niche for them. I mean they have been trying and look, no one is ever satisfied.
The real money will come when devs wake up and realize the next hit will be the true next gen persistant world sandbox. Until then, new WoW copy MMOs will continue to fail and disappoint. If people want a WoW like game THEY WILL PLAY WOW!
It's really the EQ mold copied but dumbdown, but yeah since most mmos are solo and dumb down I can see why you say its the WoW flavor.
Ima bout to do a lot of ass kicking and bubblegum chewing in this thread, and im all out of bubble gum
haha, I assume your an old EQ player that wants revenge. Anyways you said phrase wrong. You forgot the part wher Roddy Rod Piper walks into the bank and says "I have came here to chew bubble game and kick some ass, I am all out of bubble gum!"
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Ima bout to do a lot of ass kicking and bubblegum chewing in this thread, and im all out of bubble gum
haha, I assume your an old EQ player that wants revenge. Anyways you said phrase wrong. You forgot the part wher Roddy Rod Piper walks into the bank and says "I have came here to chew bubble game and kick some ass, I am all out of bubble gum!"
The quote is: "I'm here to kick ass and chew gum, and I'm all out of gum." - Duke Nukem
Personally, I prefered: "I'm going to rip off your head and shit down your neck." from Duke Nukem: Time to Kill.
-Letting Derek Smart work on your game is like letting Osama bin Laden work in the White House. Something will burn.- -And on the 8th day, man created God.-
You mean the days of grinding till your eyes bled? The days of grinding and hours and hours of grinding 1 mob? The days of hours and hours and hours of spawn camping? The days of leveling till your eyes bled? The days of leveling skills to your ass bled? The days of 2d graphics? The days of playing the game as if it were a full time job? The days of where you had to be an even bigger super nerd than you need to be now to play mmos? The days of /commands for everything? The days of clunky UI interfaces that have no relevance in this day and age?
The days of no instancing and open PvP.
I mean, us guys can find it in oldschool games (like Mir) and in Darkfall. And I'm quite happy with what I have right now personally.
When I'm looking an an MMO that I'm thinking of playing, if it has instancing in it, that'll be me put off.
_________ Currently playing: Black Desert Korea (Waiting for EU)
Always hating on instances in MMOs! Open worlds, open PvP, territory control and housing please. More persistence, more fun.
Ima bout to do a lot of ass kicking and bubblegum chewing in this thread, and im all out of bubble gum
haha, I assume your an old EQ player that wants revenge. Anyways you said phrase wrong. You forgot the part wher Roddy Rod Piper walks into the bank and says "I have came here to chew bubble game and kick some ass, I am all out of bubble gum!"
The quote is: "I'm here to kick ass and chew gum, and I'm all out of gum." - Duke Nukem
Personally, I prefered: "I'm going to rip off your head and shit down your neck." from Duke Nukem: Time to Kill.
Actually I believe the movie "They Live" had the saying first =D
Ima bout to do a lot of ass kicking and bubblegum chewing in this thread, and im all out of bubble gum
haha, I assume your an old EQ player that wants revenge. Anyways you said phrase wrong. You forgot the part wher Roddy Rod Piper walks into the bank and says "I have came here to chew bubble game and kick some ass, I am all out of bubble gum!"
The quote is: "I'm here to kick ass and chew gum, and I'm all out of gum." - Duke Nukem
Personally, I prefered: "I'm going to rip off your head and shit down your neck." from Duke Nukem: Time to Kill.
Actually I believe the movie "They Live" had the saying first =D
Yes, but Duke said it better. XD
-Letting Derek Smart work on your game is like letting Osama bin Laden work in the White House. Something will burn.- -And on the 8th day, man created God.-
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A beer pong MMO?
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I now come back to these forums daily just to see how Sneakers05 can out "stupid" himself from post to post. He never dissappoints.
I wish the internet came with an I.Q. minimum level password.
It's better to lurk in forums and be thought a fool...than to endlessly "Quote" and remove all doubts.
Shame on you! You want tough mobs that can actually put up a fight? Well that might be fine for you but you need to think about other people.
What about poor little Timmy with ADD who can't focus on one thing for more than five seconds? He's going to look away from the fight and die because of it. Is that what you want? IS IT?
And you want games to encourage grouping? Shame on you again! What's going to happen to Timmy when he tries to group? He's going to look away and get the group in trouble that's what! And then you know what's going to happen? Do you? People in the group are going to be mean to Timmy! They're going to say unkind things to him! That's going to hurt Timmy's feelings. Do you really want to be responsible for Timmy's hurt feelings? DO YOU?
You're an awful, awful man!
Yes I do want to hurt Timmy"s feelings ...not for any specific reason I just dont like Timmy.
Timmy is a carebear, it's his own fault.
You Timmy haters should be dragged off to a internment camp Canada and re-educated before you ruin the internets for everybody!
What do you mean "you guys"? Sounds like it's you who want the "olden golden days of EQ and UO". Not saying they weren't golden, just finding it strange that you distance yourself from the guys who want the same as you. :-p
I, for one, cannot believe there are so many posts on this thread.
Ok, first of all, this is MMORPG.com, and this titled "Lol you guys and your mmorpgs...mmorpgs are of the past now..." is obviously just someone trolling to get a rise out of the patrons of this site. Anyone who doesn't like MMORPGs can easily avoid this page by NEVER VISITING IT!
Why even give the poster the time of day? He's ignorant with nothing better to do, so as an attempt to break his boredom he decided to throw a troll out there and see who took the bait. Doing this is on the same annoyance level as talking at the movies. Why go to the movies if your just going to talk? You could have saved yourself 9 bucks by just staying home.
So thats my advice to you, Sneakers05. Just stay home. Stay where you are comfortable. You don't have to come to this site and cause yourself so much agony... so much pain... when you can easily avoid it. You're just a troll, plain and simple.
Reply as you like, but this is my last post in this thread, Sneakers05.
I won't let you waste anymore of my time.
<Raises hand>
Um....If it would be helpfull I might be willing to say that.
Your forum name does you proud then. By your logic then for example the invention of the wheel ruined everything for cavemen because its quite obviuos the wheel ruined the way cavemen h unted and made things right? Oh yeah thats right no it didnt it aided them and helped them with hunting. To say wow ruined anything is a bloody joke beyond beleif, let me now to tell you what has ruined things;
1)You so called vets whining like bitches constantly
2)vets thinking hardcore= crappy game design.
3)Vets thinking sandbox means hardcore, NO it D0ES NOT.
4)You whining bitches that jump from game every 2 months saying you dont like it.
5) Thinking that somehow pathetic game dsign, and no features is hardcore, if you want hardcore then why dont u have just a plane grass gorund and duke it out with your fists because its quite obviuos, you hardcore players dont need wepaons armour, quests, levels, skills, or anything.
7)Thinking that somehow because a game that is polished and has features to aid the player is somehow ruining the mmo genre. If that was the case the lest all go back to the 1970s with balck and white screens and ping pong.
8) So called vets thinking they have the right to tell the majority of the playerbase what is a good mmo and what is crap.
NWESflash, Why dont all you so called vets get a grip on reality, because the MMO genre is moving on, and quite frankly either like it or PISS OFF, because the genre would be actually better without you so called "Vet experts". Nobody gives a crap what you people think anymore, hell you retards are still going on about SWG after all these years, probably when the new star wars game comes out you wont like it, hell even when MO comes out so called vets will hate it, or start saying the game is only for the so called hardcore thast why its no popular lol.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Someone should report this guy. I think he needs a break from virtual reality so he can get more actual reality in his diet. Maybe a little counseling as an appetizer?
<Raises hand>
Um....If it would be helpfull I might be willing to say that.
Your forum name does you proud then. By your logic then for example the invention of the wheel ruined everything for cavemen because its quite obviuos the wheel ruined the way cavemen h unted and made things right? Oh yeah thats right no it didnt it aided them and helped them with hunting. To say wow ruined anything is a bloody joke beyond beleif, let me now to tell you what has ruined things;
1)You so called vets whining like bitches constantly
2)vets thinking hardcore= crappy game design.
3)Vets thinking sandbox means hardcore, NO it D0ES NOT.
4)You whining bitches that jump from game every 2 months saying you dont like it.
5) Thinking that somehow pathetic game dsign, and no features is hardcore, if you want hardcore then why dont u have just a plane grass gorund and duke it out with your fists because its quite obviuos, you hardcore players dont need wepaons armour, quests, levels, skills, or anything.
7)Thinking that somehow because a game that is polished and has features to aid the player is somehow ruining the mmo genre. If that was the case the lest all go back to the 1970s with balck and white screens and ping pong.
8) So called vets thinking they have the right to tell the majority of the playerbase what is a good mmo and what is crap.
NWESflash, Why dont all you so called vets get a grip on reality, because the MMO genre is moving on, and quite frankly either like it or PISS OFF, because the genre would be actually better without you so called "Vet experts". Nobody gives a crap what you people think anymore, hell you retards are still going on about SWG after all these years, probably when the new star wars game comes out you wont like it, hell even when MO comes out so called vets will hate it, or start saying the game is only for the so called hardcore thast why its no popular lol.
Nice generalization on the MMO vet community. Did we all flock to darkfall? Because that's ALL I hear you complaining about. No we didn't. In fact a lot of the vets DON'T CARE ABOUT DARKFALL!!! Yet your still going on with "Half complete! Bad game design! Horrible UI! Then when no one plays its only because their not hardcore!"
NEWSFLASH!!!!
We aren't complaining about hardcore pvp here, we are complaining about freedom. Darkfall isn't the only things vets care about. We can tell whats a crap mmo and good one, because we KNOW what an mmo is supposed to be, and YOU DON'T HAVE TO listen to our opinion. The genre is shit now. Darkfall is shit. and you are one of the reasons.
<Raises hand>
Um....If it would be helpfull I might be willing to say that.
Your forum name does you proud then. By your logic then for example the invention of the wheel ruined everything for cavemen because its quite obviuos the wheel ruined the way cavemen h unted and made things right?
THAT'S RIGHT!
Whew, glad somebody can finally see it my way.
I mean really, things were so much better before we had wheels. Wheels just led to wheelbarrows which just let to putting things in the wheelbarrows and pushing them around. And you know how women are, sheesh, it was always, "Honey, put this in your wheelbarrow and push it over there." And wagons! God, don't even get me started on wagons. Because, I mean, then we just had to do all that extra messing around with oxen and donkeys and horses to pull the wagons and the wife screaming at us to clean out the stables because of the stink.
And then pretty soon we were farming and keeping livestock and working our butts off when all we really wanted to do was just go kill something and eat it. But, oh no, take a day off for some hunting and she's all like, "You lazy, no-account layabout. Always gallavanting around hunting with your friends and leaving me here alone with the kids to do all the work. Mandy's husband doesn't run off hunting all the time! Mandy's husband stays home and tends the fields and takes care of the livestock and tells her how much he appreciates her."
Well you know what? I'm not Mandy's husband! OK?
<Raises hand>
Um....If it would be helpfull I might be willing to say that.
Your forum name does you proud then. By your logic then for example the invention of the wheel ruined everything for cavemen because its quite obviuos the wheel ruined the way cavemen h unted and made things right?
THAT'S RIGHT!
Whew, glad somebody can finally see it my way.
I mean really, things were so much better before we had wheels. Wheels just led to wheelbarrows which just let to putting things in the wheelbarrows and pushing them around. And you know how women are, sheesh, it was always, "Honey, put this in your wheelbarrow and push it over there." And wagons! God, don't even get me started on wagons. Because, I mean, then we just had to do all that extra messing around with oxen and donkeys and horses to pull the wagons and the wife screaming at us to clean out the stables because of the stink.
And then pretty soon we were farming and keeping livestock and working our butts off when all we really wanted to do was just go kill something and eat it. But, oh no, take a day off for some hunting and she's all like, "You lazy, no-account layabout. Always gallavanting around hunting with your friends and leaving me here alone with the kids to do all the work. Mandy's husband doesn't run off hunting all the time! Mandy's husband stays home and tends the fields and takes care of the livestock and tells her how much he appreciates her."
Well you know what? I'm not Mandy's husband! OK?
Dude I miss the days of pre-round-wheel earth...Marties a n00b for crying for this nerf
Edit: Starting a petition to bring back the old days of square wheels.
-Letting Derek Smart work on your game is like letting Osama bin Laden work in the White House. Something will burn.-
-And on the 8th day, man created God.-
"Come get some"
"Come get some"
Damn that Avatar has me scared.....it's a pink bunny with a machine gun....nightmare's tonight.
Great stuff mate,love it
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If someone had came up to me in 1980 when I was on my Atari 2600 and said we will be playing games with thousands of people at the same time.I guess my response would have been,"but I only have 2 joysticks"
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/235780/page/8
I have to agree to an extent. MMO's will always be around, but I think we've hit the peak of their popularity. I doubt there will be another mmo as big as WoW, but if there is, it will be by Blizzard again. For the first time since UO I am not subsribed to any mmos. I had subs to Eve, LOTRO, and AoC, but I lost all interest in playing them. Aion looks promising, but again, it's another fantasy theemed mmo that I've already played 50 times already.
Actually yes and no. If I ever make my break in the industry I am not going for the wow numbers. The only way to get back the hardcore crowd of old, is to to make that small niche sucessful. What alot of publishers and devs forget, is to simply have a steady subscriber base of a couple hundred thousand. If the mmo can sustain it's self and does not give into the new audience that is ermging from the new generation of mmo players. What I mean by the new audience of players; are the ones who want everything right now. By sustaining it self over a few years word of mouth will spread around like wildfire if the game is fun and especially if it has a good community What also hurts the game is the hype that the players protray it out to be and it fails at launch because of a large abundance of bugs or they claim to have all of these cool features and never make the launch. If the audience can see potential after launch the game already has a good start. What also is hurting the mmos are the community. I really wonder where mmos would of been if wow was never sucessful and each mmo had their share of several hundred thousand players. I bet we would see more quality games and less quanity.
Obviously thats not going to happen because there is a small niche for them. I mean they have been trying and look, no one is ever satisfied.
It's really the EQ mold copied but dumbdown, but yeah since most mmos are solo and dumb down I can see why you say its the WoW flavor.
Yeah you could...... to level 5.
Dumb butt.
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haha, I assume your an old EQ player that wants revenge. Anyways you said phrase wrong. You forgot the part wher Roddy Rod Piper walks into the bank and says "I have came here to chew bubble game and kick some ass, I am all out of bubble gum!"
EVE Online is still growing ...
WAR is getting better ...
There is a bright future for MMO's imho
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Yeah you could...... to level 5.
Dumb butt.
Just ignore Martie he's been saying silly stuff like this all day.
haha, I assume your an old EQ player that wants revenge. Anyways you said phrase wrong. You forgot the part wher Roddy Rod Piper walks into the bank and says "I have came here to chew bubble game and kick some ass, I am all out of bubble gum!"
The quote is: "I'm here to kick ass and chew gum, and I'm all out of gum." - Duke Nukem
Personally, I prefered: "I'm going to rip off your head and shit down your neck." from Duke Nukem: Time to Kill.
-Letting Derek Smart work on your game is like letting Osama bin Laden work in the White House. Something will burn.-
-And on the 8th day, man created God.-
The days of no instancing and open PvP.
I mean, us guys can find it in oldschool games (like Mir) and in Darkfall. And I'm quite happy with what I have right now personally.
When I'm looking an an MMO that I'm thinking of playing, if it has instancing in it, that'll be me put off.
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Currently playing: Black Desert Korea (Waiting for EU)
Always hating on instances in MMOs! Open worlds, open PvP, territory control and housing please. More persistence, more fun.
haha, I assume your an old EQ player that wants revenge. Anyways you said phrase wrong. You forgot the part wher Roddy Rod Piper walks into the bank and says "I have came here to chew bubble game and kick some ass, I am all out of bubble gum!"
The quote is: "I'm here to kick ass and chew gum, and I'm all out of gum." - Duke Nukem
Personally, I prefered: "I'm going to rip off your head and shit down your neck." from Duke Nukem: Time to Kill.
Actually I believe the movie "They Live" had the saying first =D
I'll see your "newsflash" and "Roddy Piper" and raise you one "Hulkamania" and a "Debbie Gibson."
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I ask for so little. Just fear me, love me, do as I say and I will be your slave.
haha, I assume your an old EQ player that wants revenge. Anyways you said phrase wrong. You forgot the part wher Roddy Rod Piper walks into the bank and says "I have came here to chew bubble game and kick some ass, I am all out of bubble gum!"
The quote is: "I'm here to kick ass and chew gum, and I'm all out of gum." - Duke Nukem
Personally, I prefered: "I'm going to rip off your head and shit down your neck." from Duke Nukem: Time to Kill.
Actually I believe the movie "They Live" had the saying first =D
Yes, but Duke said it better. XD
-Letting Derek Smart work on your game is like letting Osama bin Laden work in the White House. Something will burn.-
-And on the 8th day, man created God.-