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Obama hasnt been a bad president so far

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  • EnkinduEnkindu Member Posts: 1,098

    Judging each person on thier own merits and actions is not politically correct, it is simply the right thing to do.

    Take your racist agenda and broken credibility somewhere else.

    deviliscious: (PS. I have been told that when I use scientific language, it does not make me sound more intelligent, it only makes me sound like a jackass. It makes me appear that I am not knowledgable enough in the subject I am discussing to be able to translate it for people outside the field to understand. Some advice you might consider as well)

  • viiiviiiviiiviii Member Posts: 174
    Originally posted by Enkindu


    Judging each person on thier own merits and actions is not politically correct, it is simply the right thing to do.
    Take your racist agenda and broken credibility somewhere else.



     

    Just pointing out what the stats say man, nothing is wrong with telling the truth. I didn't say that you had to like or dislike the facts.

  • devilisciousdeviliscious Member UncommonPosts: 4,359

    He would make a great talk show host.. not a president. I do not believe he has the forsight , business sense, or understanding of what our country needs or represents to hold the highest office in this country.  yes, he is the president, but from his actions, he does not seem to even understand what his job description is. The presidents primary job is to uphold and protect the constitution of the United States, not make or bend the laws to his whim, Not to control or manipulate private industry, not to impose separate rules  and privileges for different people.  Just because past presidents have gotten their job confused, does not give him an excuse to do so. He is no better than they were. He is the same ol' same ol.. nothing new to see here, except his excessive spending, and that is far from being a asset to our country. Because of his choices, and past choices of our leaders, we will now start to see our dollar and standard of living crumble.

  • Rayx0rRayx0r Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 2,902
    Originally posted by deviliscious


    He would make a great talk show host.. not a president. I do not believe he has the forsight , business sense, or understanding of what our country needs or represents to hold the highest office in this country.  yes, he is the president, but from his actions, he does not seem to even understand what his job description is. The presidents primary job is to uphold and protect the constitution of the United States, not make or bend the laws to his whim, Not to control or manipulate private industry, not to impose separate rules  and privileges for different people.  Just because past presidents have gotten their job confused, does not give him an excuse to do so. He is no better than they were. He is the same ol' same ol.. nothing new to see here, except his excessive spending, and that is far from being a asset to our country. Because of his choices, and past choices of our leaders, we will now start to see our dollar and standard of living crumble.



     

    *wall of attention whore red bleeds your eyes for 800000 critical damage*

     

    seriously...  Im surprised you manage to communicate on forums.

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  • devilisciousdeviliscious Member UncommonPosts: 4,359
    Originally posted by Rayx0r

    Originally posted by deviliscious


    He would make a great talk show host.. not a president. I do not believe he has the forsight , business sense, or understanding of what our country needs or represents to hold the highest office in this country.  yes, he is the president, but from his actions, he does not seem to even understand what his job description is. The presidents primary job is to uphold and protect the constitution of the United States, not make or bend the laws to his whim, Not to control or manipulate private industry, not to impose separate rules  and privileges for different people.  Just because past presidents have gotten their job confused, does not give him an excuse to do so. He is no better than they were. He is the same ol' same ol.. nothing new to see here, except his excessive spending, and that is far from being a asset to our country. Because of his choices, and past choices of our leaders, we will now start to see our dollar and standard of living crumble.



     

    *wall of attention whore red bleeds your eyes for 800000 critical damage*

     

    seriously...  Im surprised you manage to communicate on forums.

    It only bothers those that get thier undies in a wad easily.. yes amusement at your expense. I communicate fine, and have no problem reading whatever color you choose to wrtie in as long as it is not too close to the background color. If  it bothers you, that is your problem not mine. Get over it.

     

  • BobCrazytonBobCrazyton Member UncommonPosts: 2,117
    Originally posted by deviliscious


    It only bothers those that get thier undies in a wad easily

     

    That....

    ....or people who just like to see straight.

  • keltic1701keltic1701 Member Posts: 1,162
    Originally posted by xxvicexx


    See it takes an idiot to pick the how do you feel about him personally poll from gallup while ignoring the policy and where the nation is headed polls on the same site.
     
    State of Nation--34% good/ 63% bad
    Consumer Mood-- 6% positive/ 59%negative
    GITMO 65% oppose closing
    Economic Outlook-- 35% getting better/ 58% getting worse
    Standard of Living-- getting better 41%/ getting worse 36%
    http://www.gallup.com/home.aspx
     The number you pick is the worse one of all poll numbers to focus on..so of course its the only one you care about.
    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/weekly_updates/what_they_told_us_reviewing_last_week_s_key_polls
     
     Obama himself is viewed positively ..his policies are not. In the real world his policies are what affect real people and what  matters. SO get used to some twit citing the most meaningless poll number of all..until it starts falling then expect never to see them cite a poll until Obama is gone.
     
    Obama sucks and people who earn their own money, wear the uniform, or simply love the USA know it. 
     
     

    And I suppose you got pick as the spokesman for every person who makes their own money, wears a uniform or simply loves the USA? Funny no one asked me if I wanted you to speak for me.

     

    Oh, here's one you must have missed from Gallop.com.

    Obama Job approval

    Approve 63%

    Disapprove 32%

  • viiiviiiviiiviii Member Posts: 174
    Originally posted by keltic1701

    Originally posted by xxvicexx


    See it takes an idiot to pick the how do you feel about him personally poll from gallup while ignoring the policy and where the nation is headed polls on the same site.
     
    State of Nation--34% good/ 63% bad
    Consumer Mood-- 6% positive/ 59%negative
    GITMO 65% oppose closing
    Economic Outlook-- 35% getting better/ 58% getting worse
    Standard of Living-- getting better 41%/ getting worse 36%
    http://www.gallup.com/home.aspx
     The number you pick is the worse one of all poll numbers to focus on..so of course its the only one you care about.
    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/weekly_updates/what_they_told_us_reviewing_last_week_s_key_polls
     
     Obama himself is viewed positively ..his policies are not. In the real world his policies are what affect real people and what  matters. SO get used to some twit citing the most meaningless poll number of all..until it starts falling then expect never to see them cite a poll until Obama is gone.
     
    Obama sucks and people who earn their own money, wear the uniform, or simply love the USA know it. 
     
     

    And I suppose you got pick as the spokesman for every person who makes their own money, wears a uniform or simply loves the USA? Funny no one asked me if I wanted you to speak for me.

     

    Oh, here's one you must have missed from Gallop.com.

    Obama Job approval

    Approve 63%

    Disapprove 32%



     

    Actually, you missed what he was posting about. Unless you're trolling still.

  • Aetius73Aetius73 Member Posts: 1,257
    Originally posted by popinjay


     

    Originally posted by Aetius73
     
    Best econonmy, best technologically, best military the list goes on. That was then though this is now and that has changed. The socialist tries to make you feel guility for success and wants to drag you down to their level because it is not fair simple fact.

    First, Obama wasn't apologizing because we are #1 in economy, #1 best technologically, #1 in military. So not sure what you are talking about.

     

     

    He was stating America has done many wrongheaded things regarding trying to destablize the Middle East as we did in the 1950s and onward that lead to the current state of these fundamentalists wanting to kill Americans. We've had our nose in everything over there and its about time someone acknowledged it officially, so we can get away from all that covert stuff of creating dictators with money and arms we later on have to kill.

     

     

    But I guess if you say the list goes on, you must also be saying you are proud America is also #1 in:



    #1 Nation in rapes.



    #1 Nation in total crimes.



    #1 Nation in oil consumption.



    #1 Nation in CO2 emissions.



    #1 Nation in obesity.



    #1 Nation in divorce rates.



    #1 Nation in prisoners.



    #1 Nation in deaths by firearms.

     

     

     

     

     

     



    Yeah, we are the best at that stuff, too. So yay us!

    Yep best part I love about this country is the freedom to do whatever even stupid things. The libs want to save us from ourselves and limit our freedoms because they feel we are too stupid to make decisions for ourselves.

    The first two btw just show we have a huge economy. Why should we feel guilty about having a huge economy that has generated one of the best standards of living in the world?

  • Aetius73Aetius73 Member Posts: 1,257
    Originally posted by viiiviii

    Originally posted by Aetius73


    Just because he is popular doesn't make him right. It just means that Obama, Pelosi and the rest of the libs are mis-leading you to grab power by making you think they are the solution to all your problems. When in point of fact they are the disease.



     

    Whoa man. I am totally on your side here. But ease up on comments like that. We're in a losing situation just for being on this forum.

    Continue to provide facts and refrain from stooping to their level. Name calling comes from them running out of facts and WE, have plenty and should be far from name calling.

    Fixed.

  • popinjaypopinjay Member Posts: 6,539

    Mis-post. :(

  • ChieftanChieftan Member UncommonPosts: 1,188
    Originally posted by Enkindu


    Judging each person on thier own merits and actions is not politically correct, it is simply the right thing to do.
    Take your racist agenda and broken credibility somewhere else.

    There's nothing racist about pointing out the facts. 

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  • Aetius73Aetius73 Member Posts: 1,257
    Originally posted by Snob

    Originally posted by viiiviii

    Originally posted by Aetius73


    Just because he is popular doesn't make him right. It just means that six out of ten Americans are idiots.



     

    Whoa man. I am totally on your side here. But ease up on comments like that. We're in a losing situation just for being on this forum.

    Continue to provide facts and refrain from stooping to their level. Name calling comes from them running out of facts and WE, have plenty and should be far from name calling.

    He thinks every sixth american is an idiot,says alot about his country men.

    Actually this would cover 60% of them. Yes they are all fat and happy sheep easily mislead by a world class sales man.

  • popinjaypopinjay Member Posts: 6,539


    Originally posted by Aetius73

    Yep best part I love about this country is the freedom to do whatever even stupid things. The libs want to save us from ourselves and limit our freedoms because they feel we are too stupid to make decisions for ourselves.
    The first two btw just show we have a huge economy. Why should we feel guilty about having a huge economy that has generated one of the best standards of living in the world?


    I think you'll have to show where Obama apologized for the United States having the best standard of living in the world. I personally haven't seen that yet.

  • popinjaypopinjay Member Posts: 6,539


    Originally posted by Aetius73
    Originally posted by Snob
    Originally posted by viiiviii
    Originally posted by Aetius73 Just because he is popular doesn't make him right. It just means that six out of ten Americans are idiots.

     
    Whoa man. I am totally on your side here. But ease up on comments like that. We're in a losing situation just for being on this forum.
    Continue to provide facts and refrain from stooping to their level. Name calling comes from them running out of facts and WE, have plenty and should be far from name calling.



    He thinks every sixth american is an idiot,says alot about his country men.


    Actually this would cover 60% of them. Yes they are all fat and happy sheep easily mislead by a world class sales man.

    If this is the case, then it invalidates everything people in this thread have been arguing about Obama's popularity.

    You just admit there that 60% of the people like him, regardless of their frame of mind. It shows that he is popular, so that 30% don't really matter... do they?

  • popinjaypopinjay Member Posts: 6,539


    Originally posted by viiiviii
    Originally posted by Enkindu
    Originally posted by viiiviii
     
    Shall we break those stats down as to exactly who commits the majority of these crimes? Maybe in another thread though. :/

     
    Pretty sure most of them are committed by Americans.
    Edit-typo


     
    Well yeah, that's what we're talking about, crimes in America. I'm saying, which "Americans"?



    Male Americans, statistically speaking. :)
  • Aetius73Aetius73 Member Posts: 1,257
    Originally posted by popinjay


     

    Originally posted by Aetius73
     
    Yep best part I love about this country is the freedom to do whatever even stupid things. The libs want to save us from ourselves and limit our freedoms because they feel we are too stupid to make decisions for ourselves.

    The first two btw just show we have a huge economy. Why should we feel guilty about having a huge economy that has generated one of the best standards of living in the world?

     

    I think you'll have to show where Obama apologized for the United States having the best standard of living in the world. I personally haven't seen that yet.

    No it hasn't but it underlies virtually ever decision he has made. He seems to think America should  feel guilty about doing the things that made the country successful. Why  we tank our currency to buy foreign oil when there is plenty right here? OMG we might harm a tree god forbid!  Oh no the factories and infrastructure that create jobs and wealth is polluting the air quick slap a stupid cap and trade tax (another wealth transfer) so we can make U.S. industry even more uncompetitive versus the cheap labor countries. It just goes on and on everything he does seems to have a basis in guilt of what America has done in the past.

  • viiiviiiviiiviii Member Posts: 174
    Originally posted by popinjay


     

    Originally posted by viiiviii


     
     

    Well yeah, that's what we're talking about, crimes in America. I'm saying, which "Americans"?

    Male Americans, statistically speaking. :)

     



     

    What a way to beat around the bush.

  • viiiviiiviiiviii Member Posts: 174
    Originally posted by Chieftan

    Originally posted by Enkindu


    Judging each person on thier own merits and actions is not politically correct, it is simply the right thing to do.
    Take your racist agenda and broken credibility somewhere else.

    There's nothing racist about pointing out the facts. 



     

    Thanks for showing courage. TY

  • viiiviiiviiiviii Member Posts: 174
    Originally posted by Aetius73


    No it hasn't but it underlies virtually ever decision he has made. He seems to think America should  feel guilty about doing the things that made the country successful. Why  we tank our currency to buy foreign oil when there is plenty right here? OMG we might harm a tree god forbid!  Oh no the factories and infrastructure that create jobs and wealth is polluting the air quick slap a stupid cap and trade tax (another wealth transfer) so we can make U.S. industry even more uncompetitive versus the cheap labor countries. It just goes on and on everything he does seems to have a basis in guilt of what America has done in the past.



     

    Well put.

    Henry Waxman, the co-author of the Cap & Trade Bill said on C-Span that the taxes we are going to pay, will go to the UN. I'm just waitng for a print copy and plaster the internet with it.

  • popinjaypopinjay Member Posts: 6,539


    Originally posted by Aetius73

    No it hasn't but it underlies virtually ever decision he has made. He seems to think America should  feel guilty about doing the things that made the country successful.You keep saying this, but I have yet to see where he's said that on the world stage and insisting we should apologize for success.

    Why  we tank our currency to buy foreign oil when there is plenty right here? Back in Reagan days, there was opposition to increase US drilling because people said we'd burn up our reserves. The plan was/is to buy up all the Arab's oil, then when they run out, we still have our own. That was actually a conservative plan years ago. They only changed the thought recently because they want to make the same money the Saudis were since we started losing out of our manufacturing advantages to other countries. Oil buying didn't make the steel jobs go to Korea and Japan.OMG we might harm a tree god forbid!  Oh no the factories and infrastructure that create jobs and wealth is polluting the air quick slap a stupid cap and trade tax (another wealth transfer) so we can make U.S. industry even more uncompetitive versus the cheap labor countries. It just goes on and on everything he does seems to have a basis in guilt of what America has done in the past.Again, you keep saying he's trying to make America feel guilty over things in the past. He's trying to communicate to other countries that we have been involved in trying to destablize their regimes for decades. He's only acknowledging PUBLICLY what is already publicly on file that most people do not know. This has nothing to do with wealth or success at all.


  • keltic1701keltic1701 Member Posts: 1,162
    Originally posted by viiiviii

    Originally posted by keltic1701

    Originally posted by xxvicexx


    See it takes an idiot to pick the how do you feel about him personally poll from gallup while ignoring the policy and where the nation is headed polls on the same site.
     
    State of Nation--34% good/ 63% bad
    Consumer Mood-- 6% positive/ 59%negative
    GITMO 65% oppose closing
    Economic Outlook-- 35% getting better/ 58% getting worse
    Standard of Living-- getting better 41%/ getting worse 36%
    http://www.gallup.com/home.aspx
     The number you pick is the worse one of all poll numbers to focus on..so of course its the only one you care about.
    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/weekly_updates/what_they_told_us_reviewing_last_week_s_key_polls
     
     Obama himself is viewed positively ..his policies are not. In the real world his policies are what affect real people and what  matters. SO get used to some twit citing the most meaningless poll number of all..until it starts falling then expect never to see them cite a poll until Obama is gone.
     
    Obama sucks and people who earn their own money, wear the uniform, or simply love the USA know it. 
     
     

    And I suppose you got pick as the spokesman for every person who makes their own money, wears a uniform or simply loves the USA? Funny no one asked me if I wanted you to speak for me.

     

    Oh, here's one you must have missed from Gallop.com.

    Obama Job approval

    Approve 63%

    Disapprove 32%



     

    Actually, you missed what he was posting about. Unless you're trolling still.

    I understood EXACTLY what point he was trying to make. It's the same point he always makes over and over again....

  • Squirt5Squirt5 Member Posts: 201

    There is a difference between showing respect to other people, cultures and nations and apologizing for 'being ourselves'.

    Nevertheless if you can't look critically at yourself you're never going to improve so believing blindly that WE NUMBER ONE while failing to admit shortcomings, failures, and wrong doings of our system is feeble-minded. To admit when you are wrong is probably one of the best things you can do because it lets you move forward.

    More directly it is like this: how can you approach a negotiation and make nothing but demands while giving nothing in return? Furthermore how can you lecture someone on what they do wrong while at the same time denying you do things wrong too? It shows no respect and people are not going to respond positively to it.

    More fundamentally there is a difference between being arrogant and being proud.

     

    Men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth -- more than ruin -- more even than death.... Thought is subversive and revolutionary, destructive and terrible, thought is merciless to privilege, established institutions, and comfortable habit. Thought looks into the pit of hell and is not afraid. Thought is great and swift and free, the light of the world, and the chief glory of man. -- Bertrand Russell

  • viiiviiiviiiviii Member Posts: 174
    Originally posted by Squirt5


    There is a difference between showing respect to other people, cultures and nations and apologizing for 'being ourselves'.
    Nevertheless if you can't look critically at yourself you're never going to improve so believing blindly that WE NUMBER ONE while failing to admit shortcomings, failures, and wrong doings of our system is feeble-minded. To admit when you are wrong is probably one of the best things you can do because it lets you move forward.
    More directly it is like this: how can you approach a negotiation and make nothing but demands while giving nothing in return? Furthermore how can you lecture someone on what they do wrong while at the same time denying you do things wrong too? It shows no respect and people are not going to respond positively to it.
    More fundamentally there is a difference between being arrogant and being proud.
     



     

    All good points.

    But, we have no business in the Middle-East. That is the only solution. Trade with them, fine. Impose our will, fight wars for Israel, make allies which will piss somebody off, not fine.

    But this is a course of action, I don't have an army of spiffy speechwriters. Words > Action it seems.

  • viiiviiiviiiviii Member Posts: 174
    Originally posted by keltic1701

    Originally posted by viiiviii

    Originally posted by keltic1701


    And I suppose you got pick as the spokesman for every person who makes their own money, wears a uniform or simply loves the USA? Funny no one asked me if I wanted you to speak for me.
     
    Oh, here's one you must have missed from Gallop.com.
    Obama Job approval
    Approve 63%
    Disapprove 32%



     

    Actually, you missed what he was posting about. Unless you're trolling still.

    I understood EXACTLY what point he was trying to make. It's the same point he always makes over and over again....



     

    BTW his approval rating is 53% not 63% HUGE difference.

    www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

    I'll use the same source you used so there is no excuses or debate.

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