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Comments About Obama's Daughter

upallnightupallnight Member Posts: 1,154

Whoa!!!  I thought the comments on the liberal websites were bad.   Looks like the liberals have met their match for nasty comments (see link below).

I'll never get over how nasty the Republican's and Democrat's are to each other.  While us freedom and liberty loving people are watching from the outside and really can't tell the difference between the two.

Have a look at these comments.  Warning: they are not nice...

 

Miss Obama's peacenik T-shirt sends a message to G8 leaders



 

 

Edit: I just wanted to add that I DO NOT agree with the attire of the Obama daughter.  I went back and read what I wrote and I was afraid it sounded like I was approving of it.  No way.  Her parents should have taught her that the daughter of the President of the U.S. does not dress that way.  Especially when she is with the President on a business trip.  Even if it's their free time, there is a degree of respect that should be shown for the office and our country.  Clothes do make a statement, whether people like it or not.

What I don't approve of also though are the comments some people made on that site.  If only they had taken the high road.  Then the next time they point the fingers at sites like MoveOn.org and their comment forums they could have a firm foundation to stand on.

 

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  • popinjaypopinjay Member Posts: 6,539

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    Omg. Putin looks like a midget. Literally and figuratively, lol.



    "Her father had just won agreement from the Russians to cut back on the world's stockpiles of nuclear weapons."

    Nice job Obama! Getting the Russians to tone it down a bit with the nukes. USA international credibility going back up in the world! Woot!

    Doesn't look like Putin is rearing his head here....

  • keltic1701keltic1701 Member Posts: 1,162

    Frankly I don't see a problem with the T-shirt. Who dosen't want peace? Just because she the Presidents daughter, she can't wear an emblem for peace? C'mon....that's just pure overreaction. Vietnam ended 30 years ago. Time to get over it.

     

    As for the comments of the website, in a modern democratic society one must suffer fools and bigots. No matter how offensive the message, they are entitled to say their say no matter how crude or vulgar.

  • SlytheSlythe Member UncommonPosts: 952

    Who the hell cares what she is wearing? Man this always bothered me. Like when they were talking about what Sarah Palin wore, and about Michelle "showing too much arm." About making fun of Bush in his cowboy attire, and Hilary Clinton in her pant suits. Dude seriously, the people in this country are so freaking shallow, it's disgusting.

    And the comments that people left on that blog (or whatever the hell it is) are 10x worse than her shirt.

  • devilisciousdeviliscious Member UncommonPosts: 4,359

    1. I do not agree with anyone bashing the presidents daughter. That is deplorable behavior, and peoples children should be left out of whatever political mudslinging they wish to throw. That area should be off limits and anyone who participates in such activity  is the lowest form of scum.

    2. I do not approve of her attire for a business trip. The president and his wife should have not allowed such casual attire for public view. Her attire is fine for hanging with friends at home, and going out with her friends casually, but  when representing a nation, you should dress for the occasion.  It is disrespectful to other cultures, not because of her shirt, but her shorts length is obviously more than a hands length above the knee, which is insulting to some cultures.  For occassions such as this, yes the presidents daughter should be dressed at least according to say a private school dress code. Nothing too short, or revealing, nothing too tight, nothing to draw unwanted attention simply because other nations have different cultures and those cultures should be respected. If  she refused to dress accordingly she should have  not been brought along for the trip, because in many cultures, it is disresectful to their beliefs.

    3. I dress casual as well, and for those on here who have seen my pics, you know this well. But I would not dress so casual  if I was representing a nation, or for a business meeting, or even if I was going to be in such public view. I do not dress so casually even when I visit my grandmother, who would be very offended if I wore anything that short because I respect her. It is a sign of respect.  LOL My granny still thinks women shouldn't wear shorts at all, she considers them mens underwear!  That is the difference in culture, generations that should be respected.  Once when I spent the night with my grandmother, I slept in shorts and T-shirt, I got up in the middle of the night to get a glass of water. She saw me walking down the hall that way and grabbed a blanket and threw it around me and told me, "No grandchild of mine is going to walk around looking like a Hussie!"  LMAO I was completely confused at the time...

    Later after learning more about different generations and cultures it made more sense to me, I might as well have been walking around butt nekkid to her. Many do not understand the generation and culture gaps, and for the children of our leaders they should be made to fully understand this, before reperesenting a nation, and show  some respect.

     

     

     

  • Scubie67Scubie67 Member UncommonPosts: 462

     

    Originally posted by popinjay



    Omg. Putin looks like a midget. Literally and figuratively, lol.
     
     


     

    "Her father had just won agreement from the Russians to cut back on the world's stockpiles of nuclear weapons."

     

     

    Nice job Obama! Getting the Russians to tone it down a bit with the nukes. USA international credibility going back up in the world! Woot!

     

     

     

    Doesn't look like Putin is rearing his head here....

     

     

    Umm.Putin is ex-KGB ,a champion martial artist ,has actually probably killed people and doesnt give a rat's ass about being politically correct .Never underestimate your opponent.Deception wins in the end

  • PraetorianiPraetoriani Member Posts: 1,147
    Originally posted by Scubie67


     
    Originally posted by popinjay



    Omg. Putin looks like a midget. Literally and figuratively, lol.
     
     


     

    "Her father had just won agreement from the Russians to cut back on the world's stockpiles of nuclear weapons."

     

     

    Nice job Obama! Getting the Russians to tone it down a bit with the nukes. USA international credibility going back up in the world! Woot!

     

     

     

    Doesn't look like Putin is rearing his head here....

     

     

    Umm.Putin is ex-KGB ,a champion martial artist ,has actually probably killed people and doesnt give a rat's ass about being politically correct .Never underestimate your opponent.Deception wins in the end

     

    Haha, indeed. If Putin and Obama would end up in a fist fight, I'd put all my money on Putin. Luckily for us, wars aren't fought like that. :)

  • KarlRoveKarlRove Member Posts: 79
    Originally posted by Scubie67


     
    Originally posted by popinjay



    Omg. Putin looks like a midget. Literally and figuratively, lol.
     
     


     

    "Her father had just won agreement from the Russians to cut back on the world's stockpiles of nuclear weapons."

     

     

    Nice job Obama! Getting the Russians to tone it down a bit with the nukes. USA international credibility going back up in the world! Woot!

     

     

     

    Doesn't look like Putin is rearing his head here....

     

     

    Umm.Putin is ex-KGB ,a champion martial artist ,has actually probably killed people and doesnt give a rat's ass about being politically correct .Never underestimate your opponent.Deception wins in the end

     

    Everything you said is accurate.

    Obama comes from the Chicago machine.

    Advantage Obama

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  • upallnightupallnight Member Posts: 1,154
    Originally posted by deviliscious


    1. I do not agree with anyone bashing the presidents daughter. That is deplorable behavior, and peoples children should be left out of whatever political mudslinging they wish to throw. That area should be off limits and anyone who participates in such activity  is the lowest form of scum.
    2. I do not approve of her attire for a business trip. The president and his wife should have not allowed such casual attire for public view. Her attire is fine for hanging with friends at home, and going out with her friends casually, but  when representing a nation, you should dress for the occasion.  It is disrespectful to other cultures, not because of her shirt, but her shorts length is obviously more than a hands length above the knee, which is insulting to some cultures.  For occassions such as this, yes the presidents daughter should be dressed at least according to say a private school dress code. Nothing too short, or revealing, nothing too tight, nothing to draw unwanted attention simply because other nations have different cultures and those cultures should be respected. If  she refused to dress accordingly she should have  not been brought along for the trip, because in many cultures, it is disresectful to their beliefs.
    3. I dress casual as well, and for those on here who have seen my pics, you know this well. But I would not dress so casual  if I was representing a nation, or for a business meeting, or even if I was going to be in such public view. I do not dress so casually even when I visit my grandmother, who would be very offended if I wore anything that short because I respect her. It is a sign of respect.  LOL My granny still thinks women shouldn't wear shorts at all, she considers them mens underwear!  That is the difference in culture, generations that should be respected.  Once when I spent the night with my grandmother, I slept in shorts and T-shirt, I got up in the middle of the night to get a glass of water. She saw me walking down the hall that way and grabbed a blanket and threw it around me and told me, "No grandchild of mine is going to walk around looking like a Hussie!"  LMAO I was completely confused at the time...
    Later after learning more about different generations and cultures it made more sense to me, I might as well have been walking around butt nekkid to her. Many do not understand the generation and culture gaps, and for the children of our leaders they should be made to fully understand this, before reperesenting a nation, and show  some respect.
     

    You're right.  I think you hit the problem right on the head.  There isn't much respect anymore nor is it being taught as much as it used to be.

    He is the President of the United States.  That means a whole hell of a lot.  And his daughter is around 11.  Him and his wife should be teaching her lessons about respect and how to show it.  If my dad were President then I would wear the best clothes I had when I was with him out in public.  And if I were a young person and he did not teach me that's how to act, then when I got older I think I would probably resent him for that.

    The shirt I think she is probably going to get away with.  But those really short shorts, uhhhhm, no.  And she never should have been allowed to leave that way.

    And I'm sorry, but who is that guy with her?  Is he actually sagging too?????? 

     

     

     

    I know what is going to happen.  This kind of stuff is going to continue, and people are going to start losing respect for him really quick.  That is not a personal comment on my part against Obama.  It's just the truth.  The people are going to really start leaving his side in droves.  Wait and see.

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  • WickershamWickersham Member UncommonPosts: 2,379

    Her clothes are appropriate for a young girl touring the colosseum even when considering who her father is.  She is visiting a place not a person and her choice of clothes is better than, or at least inline with, the rest of the tourists.

    As far as the comments on that site goes - they're way out of line, she's just a kid and there's no excuse for grown adults verbally attacking children.

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  • devilisciousdeviliscious Member UncommonPosts: 4,359
    Originally posted by Wickersham


    Her clothes are appropriate for a young girl touring the colosseum even when considering who her father is.  She is visiting a place not a person and her choice of clothes is better than, or at least inline with, the rest of the tourists.
    As far as the comments on that site goes - they're way out of line, she's just a kid and there's no excuse for grown adults verbally attacking children.

    That is a matter of opinion based on your culture, generation,  and how you were raised.  It is not considerate to other cultures or generations. According to my grandmother that attire would not have been acceptable for me to walk down the hallway in the middle of the night to get a glass of water with everyone sleeping, little lone going out in public.

     

    I have worn much less than she is, but would not do so in such a public place, or in such a position of honor to my parents holding such a position in office. It is a matter of respect for your elders, your country, other cultures and other nations that should be taken into consideration in this matter. It is disrespectful not to, at least that was how I was raised. 

  • LeKinKLeKinK Member Posts: 899

    Omg talk about uptight people... Who the hell care? Only the american..

    Oh no!  A peace t-shirt!!  

     

    Now the guy beside her could use some new look but she looks alright.

  • SabiancymSabiancym Member UncommonPosts: 3,150

    I wonder how many people would get angry if the shirt was exactly the same but without the peace emblem.

     

    How the international sign for peace got turned into a dirty symbol is beyond me.  I'm guessing the Nixonites immediately associate it with hippies, who we all know were evil and killed millions.....oh wait no.  They did nothing.

    She is 11, she is not the president, she is not in a formal environment.  She can wear whatever the hell she wants.

     

    Lighten the hell up.

  • snipergsniperg Member Posts: 863

    On an unrelated note, she has very nice legs:P

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  • keltic1701keltic1701 Member Posts: 1,162
    Originally posted by deviliscious

    Originally posted by Wickersham


    Her clothes are appropriate for a young girl touring the colosseum even when considering who her father is.  She is visiting a place not a person and her choice of clothes is better than, or at least inline with, the rest of the tourists.
    As far as the comments on that site goes - they're way out of line, she's just a kid and there's no excuse for grown adults verbally attacking children.

    That is a matter of opinion based on your culture, generation,  and how you were raised.  It is not considerate to other cultures or generations. According to my grandmother that attire would not have been acceptable for me to walk down the hallway in the middle of the night to get a glass of water with everyone sleeping, little lone going out in public.

     

    I have worn much less than she is, but would not do so in such a public place, or in such a position of honor to my parents holding such a position in office. It is a matter of respect for your elders, your country, other cultures and other nations that should be taken into consideration in this matter. It is disrespectful not to, at least that was how I was raised. 

    First off for walking around the ruins of Rome and the Colosseum in July, she's dress very appropriately because It's hot in Rome in July and touring the ruins is sweaty work. Her tour was not a diplomatic function. No diplomats were around, no heads of state either so she's just another tourist. There is no disrespect being shown here. In fact she's probablly a fashion icon to the Romans by now. You're making a mountain out of a mole hill. She's the President's teen-age daughter, not a member of his Cabinet and she's have a good time and NO ONE is being offended other than yourself and your grandmother so leave her be.

    According to just about every grandmother, teens are always dressing sloppy in their eyes.

  • OzarumonOzarumon Member Posts: 107

    Whats so bad about what her daughter is wearing? She looks like the average pre teen child. Instead of something vulgar on her shirt she has the peace sign

  • popinjaypopinjay Member Posts: 6,539

    Someone named "devilicious", who talks about partying and drinking, has a scantily clad avatar of a succubus and uses profanity but claims to be a devout Christian is actually saying an 11-year old girl is dressing "inappropriately for wearing a T-shirt"?


    I don't think the irony meter in this thread can get much higher than that.

  • Dynamo112Dynamo112 Member Posts: 240

    Who gives a damn. I say let her be who she wants to be and the media keep their grubby noses out of her business.

  • FishermageFishermage Member Posts: 7,562

    I think we should let the president's kids be kids, and if she wants to wear a shirt with  peace sign, more power to her. It's no different than the stuff I see tweens and teens wearing wherever I go.

     

  • devilisciousdeviliscious Member UncommonPosts: 4,359
    Originally posted by popinjay


    Someone named "devilicious", who talks about partying and drinking, has a scantily clad avatar of a succubus and uses profanity but claims to be a devout Christian is actually saying an 11-year old girl is dressing "inappropriately for wearing a T-shirt"?
     
     


    I don't think the irony meter in this thread can get much higher than that.

    First off, what does "dress code" have to do with Christianity? What does respect for others have to do with Christianity?  I have never once claimed to be a devout Christian, and your ridiculous accusations  make no sense whatsoever.

     

    If it is not appropriate attire for her to wear to private school, it is not appropriate attire to accompany the President of the United States on a business trip. That has nothing to do with my personal preferences, nothing to do with what I think an 11 year old girl should be able to wear/ not wear.  Due to her fathers position of honor, his children should be dressed respectfully towards other cultures and generations.   I do not wear shorts to visit my grandmother due to respect for her, not because of   my religious beliefs, but because I respect her culture, her generation. Why is dressing respectful for others such a big deal anyhow? They can dress however they want most of the time, I wouldn;t think it that big of a deal to have your children dress appropriately for diplomatic public representation.

    It is a matter of respecting others, not your personal preferences. I guess it is beyond people these days to think about anyone other than themselves. Courtesy, understanding,  and respect are the issues here, not just short shorts and a T- shirt.

     

  • popinjaypopinjay Member Posts: 6,539


    Originally posted by deviliscious
    Originally posted by popinjay Someone named "devilicious", who talks about partying and drinking, has a scantily clad avatar of a succubus and uses profanity but claims to be a devout Christian is actually saying an 11-year old girl is dressing "inappropriately for wearing a T-shirt"?
     
     I don't think the irony meter in this thread can get much higher than that.
    First off, what does "dress code" have to do with Christianity? What does respect for others have to do with Christianity?  I have never once claimed to be a devout Christian, and your ridiculous accusations  make no sense whatsoever.
     
    If it is not appropriate attire for her to wear to private school, it is not appropriate attire to accompany the President of the United States on a business trip. That has nothing to do with my personal preferences, nothing to do with what I think an 11 year old girl should be able to wear/ not wear.  Due to her fathers position of honor, his children should be dressed respectfully towards other cultures and generations.   I do not wear shorts to visit my grandmother due to respect for her, not because of   my religious beliefs, but because I respect her culture, her generation. Why is dressing respectful for others such a big deal anyhow? They can dress however they want most of the time, I wouldn;t think it that big of a deal to have your children dress appropriately for diplomatic public representation.
    It is a matter of respecting others, not your personal preferences. I guess it is beyond people these days to think about anyone other than themselves. Courtesy, understanding,  and respect are the issues here, not just short shorts and a T- shirt.
     

    "Adjusts ponytails and pulls the lollipop out of my mouth"

    You're talking about "when I was raised this was inappropriate" and how what she was wearing isn't appropriate. You are making moral judgements on an 11 year old girl.

    I don't think your Grandma would think you pretending your a sexy succubus on a website is Christian and morally upright either, not to mention appropriate if she would object to what that girl was wearing. You know, the same one who taught you T-shirts in public are evil or trashy or whatever.

    "Hey Grandma... Look... I'm "devilicious"!"

    I can only imagine what her opinion of you would be as an adult relative to yours of an 11 year old child. People dress how they want, not for others eyes. She's not going to private school there, she's going sightseeing, lol. Your analogy makes no sense whatsoever.


    It makes about as much sense that because she goes to a private school, that she should wear those same clothes to an amusement park. She's on her own time here, not in class learning and there's no "dress code" other than shoes, shirt, pants.

    I suppose her hair isn't to your liking either? Too casual? Or her nails? She should have it up in a dignified "private school" bun, right?

  • outfctrloutfctrl Member UncommonPosts: 3,619

    There is only one peace that  is widely understood:

    This is what she should of been wearing

    nuff said

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  • devilisciousdeviliscious Member UncommonPosts: 4,359
    Originally posted by popinjay


     

    Originally posted by deviliscious


    Originally posted by popinjay
     
    Someone named "devilicious", who talks about partying and drinking, has a scantily clad avatar of a succubus and uses profanity but claims to be a devout Christian is actually saying an 11-year old girl is dressing "inappropriately for wearing a T-shirt"?

     

     
    I don't think the irony meter in this thread can get much higher than that.



    First off, what does "dress code" have to do with Christianity? What does respect for others have to do with Christianity?  I have never once claimed to be a devout Christian, and your ridiculous accusations  make no sense whatsoever.

     

    If it is not appropriate attire for her to wear to private school, it is not appropriate attire to accompany the President of the United States on a business trip. That has nothing to do with my personal preferences, nothing to do with what I think an 11 year old girl should be able to wear/ not wear.  Due to her fathers position of honor, his children should be dressed respectfully towards other cultures and generations.   I do not wear shorts to visit my grandmother due to respect for her, not because of   my religious beliefs, but because I respect her culture, her generation. Why is dressing respectful for others such a big deal anyhow? They can dress however they want most of the time, I wouldn;t think it that big of a deal to have your children dress appropriately for diplomatic public representation.

    It is a matter of respecting others, not your personal preferences. I guess it is beyond people these days to think about anyone other than themselves. Courtesy, understanding,  and respect are the issues here, not just short shorts and a T- shirt.

     

     

    "Adjusts ponytails and pulls the lollipop out of my mouth"

     

     

    You're talking about "when I was raised this was inappropriate" and how what she was wearing isn't appropriate. You are making moral judgements on an 11 year old girl.

     

     

    I don't think your Grandma would think you pretending your a sexy succubus on a website is Christian and morally upright either, not to mention appropriate if she would object to what that girl was wearing. You know, the same one who taught you T-shirts in public are evil or trashy or whatever.

     

     

    "Hey Grandma... Look... I'm "devilicious"!"

     

     

    I can only imagine what her opinion of you would be as an adult relative to yours of an 11 year old child. People dress how they want, not for others eyes. She's not going to private school there, she's going sightseeing, lol. Your analogy makes no sense whatsoever.

     



    It makes about as much sense that because she goes to a private school, that she should wear those same clothes to an amusement park. She's on her own time here, not in class learning and there's no "dress code" other than shoes, shirt, pants.

     

     

    I suppose her hair isn't to your liking either? Too casual? Or her nails? She should have it up in a dignified "private school" bun, right?

     

    1. I do not " pretend " to be anything ..

     

    2. My grandmother does not control my life, but out of respect for her, in her presence I dress and behave accordingly as to not insult her. That does not mean I have to agree with what she believes, that only means that due to my respect for her, I do not behave that way in her presence.

    3. she is not just " going site seeing."  Public funds paid for her trip, Yes the people of this nation. Her father was there on national business. Her father being the presient of this nation puts her in the spotlight to represent our nation. Whether or not she asked for it, it  was thrown in her lap. The way many other countries view their family is as a representation of our nation.  What elders may view as underwear we view as clothing. That is understanding the generation gaps, and understanding culture gaps. IF she had went site seeing in her bra and undies would you view it differently? That is how many of the older generations view her attire.  My grandmother, no matter how much I have tried to explain to her still views shorts as mens underwear.. and she isn't the only one who thinks that. 

    You do not seem to understand or care what other generations or cultures may think of her attire, but her attire reflects poorly on her parents. The first thing they say is what kind of a father would allow their young daughter to wear such a thing?  I have heard it time and time again..

    The only point you are proving is you have no understanding other than your own. You do not understand  or respect other cultures or genertaions and see no reason to.  to be a " diplomat" you would have to fully understand these things as to not appear insulting.

  • outfctrloutfctrl Member UncommonPosts: 3,619
    Originally posted by deviliscious

    Originally posted by popinjay


     

    Originally posted by deviliscious


    Originally posted by popinjay
     
    Someone named "devilicious", who talks about partying and drinking, has a scantily clad avatar of a succubus and uses profanity but claims to be a devout Christian is actually saying an 11-year old girl is dressing "inappropriately for wearing a T-shirt"?

     

     
    I don't think the irony meter in this thread can get much higher than that.

     
    First off, what does "dress code" have to do with Christianity? What does respect for others have to do with Christianity?  I have never once claimed to be a devout Christian, and your ridiculous accusations  make no sense whatsoever.

     

    If it is not appropriate attire for her to wear to private school, it is not appropriate attire to accompany the President of the United States on a business trip. That has nothing to do with my personal preferences, nothing to do with what I think an 11 year old girl should be able to wear/ not wear.  Due to her fathers position of honor, his children should be dressed respectfully towards other cultures and generations.   I do not wear shorts to visit my grandmother due to respect for her, not because of   my religious beliefs, but because I respect her culture, her generation. Why is dressing respectful for others such a big deal anyhow? They can dress however they want most of the time, I wouldn;t think it that big of a deal to have your children dress appropriately for diplomatic public representation.

    It is a matter of respecting others, not your personal preferences. I guess it is beyond people these days to think about anyone other than themselves. Courtesy, understanding,  and respect are the issues here, not just short shorts and a T- shirt.

     

     

    "Adjusts ponytails and pulls the lollipop out of my mouth"

     

     

    You're talking about "when I was raised this was inappropriate" and how what she was wearing isn't appropriate. You are making moral judgements on an 11 year old girl.

     

     

    I don't think your Grandma would think you pretending your a sexy succubus on a website is Christian and morally upright either, not to mention appropriate if she would object to what that girl was wearing. You know, the same one who taught you T-shirts in public are evil or trashy or whatever.

     

     

    "Hey Grandma... Look... I'm "devilicious"!"

     

     

    I can only imagine what her opinion of you would be as an adult relative to yours of an 11 year old child. People dress how they want, not for others eyes. She's not going to private school there, she's going sightseeing, lol. Your analogy makes no sense whatsoever.

     



    It makes about as much sense that because she goes to a private school, that she should wear those same clothes to an amusement park. She's on her own time here, not in class learning and there's no "dress code" other than shoes, shirt, pants.

     

     

    I suppose her hair isn't to your liking either? Too casual? Or her nails? She should have it up in a dignified "private school" bun, right?

     

    1. I do not " pretend " to be anything ..

     

    2. My grandmother does not control my life, but out of respect for her, in her presence I dress and behave accordingly as to not insult her. That does not mean I have to agree with what she believes, that only means that due to my respect for her, I do not behave that way in her presence.

    3. she is not just " going site seeing."  Public funds paid for her trip, Yes the people of this nation. Her father was there on national business. Her father being the presient of this nation puts her in the spotlight to represent our nation. Whether or not she asked for it, it  was thrown in her lap. The way many other countries view their family is as a representation of our nation.  What elders may view as underwear we view as clothing. That is understanding the generation gaps, and understanding culture gaps. IF she had went site seeing in her bra and undies would you view it differently? That is how many of the older generations view her attire.  My grandmother, no matter how much I have tried to explain to her still views shorts as mens underwear.. and she isn't the only one who thinks that. 

    You do not seem to understand or care what other generations or cultures may think of her attire, but her attire reflects poorly on her parents. The first thing they say is what kind of a father would allow their young daughter to wear such a thing?  I have heard it time and time again..

    The only point you are proving is you have no understanding other than your own. You do not understand  or respect other cultures or genertaions and see no reason to.  to be a " diplomat" you would have to fully understand these things as to not appear insulting.

    Very well said!

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  • PraetorianiPraetoriani Member Posts: 1,147
    Originally posted by deviliscious

    Originally posted by popinjay


     

    Originally posted by deviliscious


    Originally posted by popinjay
     
    Someone named "devilicious", who talks about partying and drinking, has a scantily clad avatar of a succubus and uses profanity but claims to be a devout Christian is actually saying an 11-year old girl is dressing "inappropriately for wearing a T-shirt"?

     

     
    I don't think the irony meter in this thread can get much higher than that.

     
    First off, what does "dress code" have to do with Christianity? What does respect for others have to do with Christianity?  I have never once claimed to be a devout Christian, and your ridiculous accusations  make no sense whatsoever.

     

    If it is not appropriate attire for her to wear to private school, it is not appropriate attire to accompany the President of the United States on a business trip. That has nothing to do with my personal preferences, nothing to do with what I think an 11 year old girl should be able to wear/ not wear.  Due to her fathers position of honor, his children should be dressed respectfully towards other cultures and generations.   I do not wear shorts to visit my grandmother due to respect for her, not because of   my religious beliefs, but because I respect her culture, her generation. Why is dressing respectful for others such a big deal anyhow? They can dress however they want most of the time, I wouldn;t think it that big of a deal to have your children dress appropriately for diplomatic public representation.

    It is a matter of respecting others, not your personal preferences. I guess it is beyond people these days to think about anyone other than themselves. Courtesy, understanding,  and respect are the issues here, not just short shorts and a T- shirt.

     

     

    "Adjusts ponytails and pulls the lollipop out of my mouth"

     

     

    You're talking about "when I was raised this was inappropriate" and how what she was wearing isn't appropriate. You are making moral judgements on an 11 year old girl.

     

     

    I don't think your Grandma would think you pretending your a sexy succubus on a website is Christian and morally upright either, not to mention appropriate if she would object to what that girl was wearing. You know, the same one who taught you T-shirts in public are evil or trashy or whatever.

     

     

    "Hey Grandma... Look... I'm "devilicious"!"

     

     

    I can only imagine what her opinion of you would be as an adult relative to yours of an 11 year old child. People dress how they want, not for others eyes. She's not going to private school there, she's going sightseeing, lol. Your analogy makes no sense whatsoever.

     



    It makes about as much sense that because she goes to a private school, that she should wear those same clothes to an amusement park. She's on her own time here, not in class learning and there's no "dress code" other than shoes, shirt, pants.

     

     

    I suppose her hair isn't to your liking either? Too casual? Or her nails? She should have it up in a dignified "private school" bun, right?

     

    1. I do not " pretend " to be anything ..

     

    2. My grandmother does not control my life, but out of respect for her, in her presence I dress and behave accordingly as to not insult her. That does not mean I have to agree with what she believes, that only means that due to my respect for her, I do not behave that way in her presence.

    3. she is not just " going site seeing."  Public funds paid for her trip, Yes the people of this nation. Her father was there on national business. Her father being the presient of this nation puts her in the spotlight to represent our nation. Whether or not she asked for it, it  was thrown in her lap. The way many other countries view their family is as a representation of our nation.  What elders may view as underwear we view as clothing. That is understanding the generation gaps, and understanding culture gaps. IF she had went site seeing in her bra and undies would you view it differently? That is how many of the older generations view her attire.  My grandmother, no matter how much I have tried to explain to her still views shorts as mens underwear.. and she isn't the only one who thinks that. 

    You do not seem to understand or care what other generations or cultures may think of her attire, but her attire reflects poorly on her parents. The first thing they say is what kind of a father would allow their young daughter to wear such a thing?  I have heard it time and time again..

    The only point you are proving is you have no understanding other than your own. You do not understand  or respect other cultures or genertaions and see no reason to.  to be a " diplomat" you would have to fully understand these things as to not appear insulting.

     

    You can't possibly appease all cultures at the same time with attire - so why bother? With the clothes you and I wear day to day, we 'offend' people of various different cultures and beliefs. Since part of my university tuition is paid for by the tax payers, I should, by your reasoning, dress as neutral and respectful. Bollocks - nobody has the right to condemn  others for what they're wearing, especially if its not in the least bit defying cultural norms and values. She's an eleven year old girl in her spare time, and should be able to dress however the hell she wants.

    If anything, your country stands (or at least, pretends to stand) for freedom, and that is the only 'culture' she should represent. Wearing casual clothes and being able to forget you're the daughter of one of the world's most important men symbolises that. Even then, I end up wondering who she could possibly offend wearing clothes like that. I didn't feel this was the least bit thread worthy. (Sorry, Upallnight! You're actually one of my favourite posters otherwise.)

  • devilisciousdeviliscious Member UncommonPosts: 4,359
    Originally posted by Praetoriani

    Originally posted by deviliscious

    Originally posted by popinjay


     

    Originally posted by deviliscious


    Originally posted by popinjay
     
    Someone named "devilicious", who talks about partying and drinking, has a scantily clad avatar of a succubus and uses profanity but claims to be a devout Christian is actually saying an 11-year old girl is dressing "inappropriately for wearing a T-shirt"?

     

     
    I don't think the irony meter in this thread can get much higher than that.

     
    First off, what does "dress code" have to do with Christianity? What does respect for others have to do with Christianity?  I have never once claimed to be a devout Christian, and your ridiculous accusations  make no sense whatsoever.

     

    If it is not appropriate attire for her to wear to private school, it is not appropriate attire to accompany the President of the United States on a business trip. That has nothing to do with my personal preferences, nothing to do with what I think an 11 year old girl should be able to wear/ not wear.  Due to her fathers position of honor, his children should be dressed respectfully towards other cultures and generations.   I do not wear shorts to visit my grandmother due to respect for her, not because of   my religious beliefs, but because I respect her culture, her generation. Why is dressing respectful for others such a big deal anyhow? They can dress however they want most of the time, I wouldn;t think it that big of a deal to have your children dress appropriately for diplomatic public representation.

    It is a matter of respecting others, not your personal preferences. I guess it is beyond people these days to think about anyone other than themselves. Courtesy, understanding,  and respect are the issues here, not just short shorts and a T- shirt.

     

     

    "Adjusts ponytails and pulls the lollipop out of my mouth"

     

     

    You're talking about "when I was raised this was inappropriate" and how what she was wearing isn't appropriate. You are making moral judgements on an 11 year old girl.

     

     

    I don't think your Grandma would think you pretending your a sexy succubus on a website is Christian and morally upright either, not to mention appropriate if she would object to what that girl was wearing. You know, the same one who taught you T-shirts in public are evil or trashy or whatever.

     

     

    "Hey Grandma... Look... I'm "devilicious"!"

     

     

    I can only imagine what her opinion of you would be as an adult relative to yours of an 11 year old child. People dress how they want, not for others eyes. She's not going to private school there, she's going sightseeing, lol. Your analogy makes no sense whatsoever.

     



    It makes about as much sense that because she goes to a private school, that she should wear those same clothes to an amusement park. She's on her own time here, not in class learning and there's no "dress code" other than shoes, shirt, pants.

     

     

    I suppose her hair isn't to your liking either? Too casual? Or her nails? She should have it up in a dignified "private school" bun, right?

     

    1. I do not " pretend " to be anything ..

     

    2. My grandmother does not control my life, but out of respect for her, in her presence I dress and behave accordingly as to not insult her. That does not mean I have to agree with what she believes, that only means that due to my respect for her, I do not behave that way in her presence.

    3. she is not just " going site seeing."  Public funds paid for her trip, Yes the people of this nation. Her father was there on national business. Her father being the presient of this nation puts her in the spotlight to represent our nation. Whether or not she asked for it, it  was thrown in her lap. The way many other countries view their family is as a representation of our nation.  What elders may view as underwear we view as clothing. That is understanding the generation gaps, and understanding culture gaps. IF she had went site seeing in her bra and undies would you view it differently? That is how many of the older generations view her attire.  My grandmother, no matter how much I have tried to explain to her still views shorts as mens underwear.. and she isn't the only one who thinks that. 

    You do not seem to understand or care what other generations or cultures may think of her attire, but her attire reflects poorly on her parents. The first thing they say is what kind of a father would allow their young daughter to wear such a thing?  I have heard it time and time again..

    The only point you are proving is you have no understanding other than your own. You do not understand  or respect other cultures or genertaions and see no reason to.  to be a " diplomat" you would have to fully understand these things as to not appear insulting.

     

    You can't possibly appease all cultures at the same time with attire - so why bother? With the clothes you and I wear day to day, we 'offend' people of various different cultures and beliefs. Since part of my university tuition is paid for by the tax payers, I should, by your reasoning, dress as neutral and respectful. Bollocks - nobody has the right to condemn  others for what they're wearing, especially if its not in the least bit defying cultural norms and values. She's an eleven year old girl in her spare time, and should be able to dress however the hell she wants.

    If anything, your country stands (or at least, pretends to stand) for freedom, and that is the only 'culture' she should represent. Wearing casual clothes and being able to forget you're the daughter of one of the world's most important men symbolises that. Even then, I end up wondering who she could possibly offend wearing clothes like that. I didn't feel this was the least bit thread worthy. (Sorry, Upallnight! You're actually one of my favourite posters otherwise.)

    Would you feel differently if she had gone site seeing in her bra and panties? Well that is the point here, many elders view her attire as just that .. My grandmother, for example sees all shorts as mens underwear.  A t-shirt and shorts were considered " underwear" in their day, there is a difference between wanting to appease all cultures and dressing repsectfully to elders. Simple rules for apporpriate dimplomatic dress:

     

    1. nothing too revealing, too tight fitting, or too loose  or anything drawing unwanted attention.

    2. clean, neat and un wrinkled.

     Pretty easy rules to follow. If your hem line is more than a hands length above the knee,  if it is too form fitting, or too loose, it is not suitable for dimplomatic ventures into other nations. What she wears hanging out with her friends at home is no business other than her parents and her own.

     

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