Nicely written review, the reviewer has a quite nice writing style. If anyone hasn't already noticed, the largest gaming site in Spain, Meristation, reviewed Darkfall recently and rated it 7/10. In case you don't read Spanish, here is the English translation. Here is the link in Spanish.
I simply cannot understand how someone who wants to hype the game cannot give first the link to the article and second explain the article is from a published very well known magazine in the UK (PC Gaming) and give the magazine's profile:
There you wrong, i dont want to hype the game. I dont care if someone here will buy the game or not. If you want to look up that information, go search for yourself. You did..fine with me.
You don't want to hype the game, yet every chance you get you in fact try to do so.
Thats not a review, its more of a blog post or something. The author doesn't really show many features of the game, he kind of just talks very vaguely about it. I would say the author played DF even less then Zidron. - they had Multiplayer as a score? - They had WoW previewed with multiplayer ranked N/A? - They had Pirates of the burning sea misspeled (Priates), had a rating of 1/10 and no review. Very strange website.
I think that's because, with as few people as there are playing it, the reviewer mistook Darkfall for a Counterstrike clone instead of an mmorpg.
It's a well written summary, but doesn't really offer any detail. Also, their scoring categories are a little limited and overly generic. That being said, based upon their categories, I'd probably rate it about a 6.6. I'm surprised they thought the sounds were so good, especially since everybody else seems to hate them. All-in-all, their review isn't anything to brag about - the score is decent, but not high and the reviewer doesn't really go into any detail. Frankly, it looks like the summary could have been written without any play time at all, it's that generic. " It basically boils down to, Darkfall has lots of faults, but we think it succeeds more than it fails." The only problem is, it doesn't really say where it succeeds. ~Ripper
About the sounds. The review was written after sounds were fixed (4 patches ago or so). The objective review I did also noted that the sounsd were bad, but had been fixed now.
The population of this game dropped from 5000+ hours played on XFire at release to barely 1000, that says more than any review.
Good point and you are probably right. But can't really be known because there is a possibility that people who use xfire also tend to be people that try games out... and then move onto the next game. I dont know that though.
PvPers tend to not log game hours with xfire due to the drop in FPS. Just saying.
The population of this game dropped from 5000+ hours played on XFire at release to barely 1000, that says more than any review.
Good point and you are probably right. But can't really be known because there is a possibility that people who use xfire also tend to be people that try games out... and then move onto the next game. I dont know that though.
PvPers tend to not log game hours with xfire due to the drop in FPS. Just saying.
That is odd. My frames don't drop when using Xfire. Not in any game.
The population of this game dropped from 5000+ hours played on XFire at release to barely 1000, that says more than any review.
Good point and you are probably right. But can't really be known because there is a possibility that people who use xfire also tend to be people that try games out... and then move onto the next game. I dont know that though.
PvPers tend to not log game hours with xfire due to the drop in FPS. Just saying.
That is odd. My frames don't drop when using Xfire. Not in any game.
Either you don't play a game where it matters, or have a really good rig. Either way, PvPers tend not to log game hours with xfire becuase the FPS drop. This is especially true for games that use first person shooter type of combat and performance. Also note, Xfire is mainly used by teenagers.
What I'm saying is, you can't use xfire to gage actual subs, but you can use it to see if the game has become more or less popular since its launch.
Until one of the reputable sites (mmorpg,gamespot,etc) put out a review of DF, all "most" ppl have is the Eurogamer review. Most ppl are not going to search obscure or unknown sites to get their info on a game they are thinking about purchasing. I personally don't put alot of weight in small sites because they are easily swayed by advertising. I think AV could put all the drama about websites rating DF to rest simply by putting out a 7 or 10 day trial. But if Av doesn't stop the population bleed there will be nothing to try.....
With todays PC it doesn't make any difference if you run it or not. I'm 100% sure Punkbuster (which any respectable FPS player runs with their shooter) takes more PC ressources.
Plus, if your PC really slow down from Xfire it's really, REALLY time you uppgrade that Windows 95.
Did this guy play the full 100 hours that taco said qualified any review?
Lets see the logs.
---------- "Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
Nice review but sounds is way to high rated its goddamn awefull 4/10 at most for me sounds in Darkfall are worse ive seen in an mmo:(
They rated grafhics to low they prolly play it on amedium game pc with low settings?
Grafhics are 8.5/10 at least!
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009..... In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
I don't get it... why doesn't big review site like IGN or Gamespot don't review that game?
Any anonymous blogger, like nogamer, can write a review. This game, Darkfall, is the poster-child for shoddy development, game-play, customer-service, community and anything else that matters to gain a notable following.
With seemingly better titles on the horizon, such as Aion, Champions, and Mortal, to name a few, save your cash, because this game is better rated as a ‘2’ out of ‘10’; 2 is for poop.
Everyone knows the Eurogamer review was a fraud. There's this review of 7.4/10, then there's also the Meristation review (biggest and highly respected gaming site in Spain) of 7/10.
Aion is your basic run of the mill Asian grinder crossed with WOW clone. I looked into it a lot but I'm yet to find anything new or even just evolutionary about it except for the luscious graphics, which means nothing in a MMO.
For mortal I am already hearing feedback that it's nowhere near ready, stuff like combat is super laggy, tons of stuff not working or really simplistic. Mortal doesn't come out for at least another 6 months, Darkfall will be on its second expansion by then plus tons of patches, Mortal will be a fresh new MMO with the usual bugs, crashes and missing content.......... on top of already having a much smaller feature list compared to Darkfall............. I'm not holding my breath.
Funny how all the other reviews are around 7 and the eurogamer review is the only low one huh. And how eurogamer still hasn't released another review, cause they know they got caught with their pants down.
Everyone knows the Eurogamer review was a fraud. There's this review of 7.4/10, then there's also the Meristation review (biggest and highly respected gaming site in Spain) of 7/10. Aion is your basic run of the mill Asian grinder crossed with WOW clone. I looked into it a lot but I'm yet to find anything new or even just evolutionary about it except for the luscious graphics, which means nothing in a MMO. For mortal I am already hearing feedback that it's nowhere near ready, stuff like combat is super laggy, tons of stuff not working or really simplistic. Mortal doesn't come out for at least another 6 months, Darkfall will be on its second expansion by then plus tons of patches, Mortal will be a fresh new MMO with the usual bugs, crashes and missing content.......... on top of already having a much smaller feature list compared to Darkfall............. I'm not holding my breath.
If Eurogamer was a fraud, why nowgamer.com is suddenly considered a third top website in the world, even if they rank games with NO REVIEW and have a spelling mistake in its name? Why Meristation not considered fraud, even if they still have games on their list that were canceled?
Funny how all the other reviews are around 7 and the eurogamer review is the only low one huh. And how eurogamer still hasn't released another review, cause they know they got caught with their pants down.
Show me a review from a reputable, well-known site like IGN that has it reviewed at 7/10....
Everyone knows the Eurogamer review was a fraud. There's this review of 7.4/10, then there's also the Meristation review (biggest and highly respected gaming site in Spain) of 7/10. Aion is your basic run of the mill Asian grinder crossed with WOW clone. I looked into it a lot but I'm yet to find anything new or even just evolutionary about it except for the luscious graphics, which means nothing in a MMO. For mortal I am already hearing feedback that it's nowhere near ready, stuff like combat is super laggy, tons of stuff not working or really simplistic. Mortal doesn't come out for at least another 6 months, Darkfall will be on its second expansion by then plus tons of patches, Mortal will be a fresh new MMO with the usual bugs, crashes and missing content.......... on top of already having a much smaller feature list compared to Darkfall............. I'm not holding my breath.
You do understand that MO is in early stages of beta right?
It's going to be several months more of testing before it's even released.
They haven't even finished the crafting system yet, it's still being developed.
If someone actually broke NDA to tell you that the game isn't ready to be released that's good, cause it shouldn't be.
Not to mention,
WTF does this thread have to do with MO? Why do you feel you need to bring MO into this thread? What are you so worried about that you need to post in a DFO thread putting down a game that's in early beta? What's with the insecurities?
Last time I saw a game that got a 7.4 rating wasn't considered a good game by most people.
Originally posted by Harkkum:
This review underlines pretty much the same elements of gameplay as has been stressed on this forum ever since the launch. It doesn't try to hide the flaws, it just so happens that the reviewer admittedly finds free-for-all PvP to be pleasant and interesting. Therefore, the reviewer gives the game a decent grade but by no means can one state that it would be flattering to Aventurine or for Darkfall either. The common consensus, regardless of the final score given, of the reviewers is that the game design is flawed and needs to be corrected. Or can one honestly say that a reviewer writing the following would consider the game a massive success in any foreseeable future:
When the starting areas are often camped by player-killers, where your early hours require you to learn the ropes, Darkfall can be frustrating beyond measure. Quests are few, rewards are paltry and if your time is constricted by other concerns and you were hoping for unbridled levels of entertainment to stave them off, you will probably want to quickly escape for good. After all, buying the game was hardly the most endearing process.
Even on parts where he actually gives the game some credit he reminds that these features lack in polish and ought to be developed further. He just so happens to champion the idea of player-driven end game, even with limitations, that a game has received a review of 7.4. I think that it would do more a favour to Darkfall if its most vocal supporters could admit that the Eurogamer review was in many aspects spot on. Just like this latest Total PC Gaming's review. After all, I'd imagine that those playing the game would be the one willing to actually see the game improve further.
I can accept everything.But by just ranking the sound in DF as 7.1/10 made me a non-believer of this review.You simply cant give a 7.1 on a sound and 6.8 on graphics.He obviously either played with sound on mute or with music on.There is no other explanation.
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Nicely written review, the reviewer has a quite nice writing style. If anyone hasn't already noticed, the largest gaming site in Spain, Meristation, reviewed Darkfall recently and rated it 7/10. In case you don't read Spanish, here is the English translation. Here is the link in Spanish.
Edit: the Meristation review is also linked from metacritic: www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/pc/darkfallonline
There you wrong, i dont want to hype the game. I dont care if someone here will buy the game or not. If you want to look up that information, go search for yourself. You did..fine with me.
You don't want to hype the game, yet every chance you get you in fact try to do so.
I think that's because, with as few people as there are playing it, the reviewer mistook Darkfall for a Counterstrike clone instead of an mmorpg.
Did they just call them Adventurine?
About the sounds. The review was written after sounds were fixed (4 patches ago or so). The objective review I did also noted that the sounsd were bad, but had been fixed now.
Games:
Currently playing:Nothing
Will play: Darkfall: Unholy Wars
Past games:
Guild Wars 2 - Xpiher Duminous
Xpiher's GW2
GW 1 - Xpiher Duminous
Darkfall - Xpiher Duminous (NA) retired
AoC - Xpiher (Tyranny) retired
Warhammer - Xpiher
Good point and you are probably right. But can't really be known because there is a possibility that people who use xfire also tend to be people that try games out... and then move onto the next game. I dont know that though.
PvPers tend to not log game hours with xfire due to the drop in FPS. Just saying.
Games:
Currently playing:Nothing
Will play: Darkfall: Unholy Wars
Past games:
Guild Wars 2 - Xpiher Duminous
Xpiher's GW2
GW 1 - Xpiher Duminous
Darkfall - Xpiher Duminous (NA) retired
AoC - Xpiher (Tyranny) retired
Warhammer - Xpiher
Good point and you are probably right. But can't really be known because there is a possibility that people who use xfire also tend to be people that try games out... and then move onto the next game. I dont know that though.
PvPers tend to not log game hours with xfire due to the drop in FPS. Just saying.
That is odd. My frames don't drop when using Xfire. Not in any game.
The Adventures of Fat Gamer - http://www.mmorpg.com/blogs/FatGamer
Good point and you are probably right. But can't really be known because there is a possibility that people who use xfire also tend to be people that try games out... and then move onto the next game. I dont know that though.
PvPers tend to not log game hours with xfire due to the drop in FPS. Just saying.
That is odd. My frames don't drop when using Xfire. Not in any game.
Either you don't play a game where it matters, or have a really good rig. Either way, PvPers tend not to log game hours with xfire becuase the FPS drop. This is especially true for games that use first person shooter type of combat and performance. Also note, Xfire is mainly used by teenagers.
What I'm saying is, you can't use xfire to gage actual subs, but you can use it to see if the game has become more or less popular since its launch.
Games:
Currently playing:Nothing
Will play: Darkfall: Unholy Wars
Past games:
Guild Wars 2 - Xpiher Duminous
Xpiher's GW2
GW 1 - Xpiher Duminous
Darkfall - Xpiher Duminous (NA) retired
AoC - Xpiher (Tyranny) retired
Warhammer - Xpiher
Until one of the reputable sites (mmorpg,gamespot,etc) put out a review of DF, all "most" ppl have is the Eurogamer review. Most ppl are not going to search obscure or unknown sites to get their info on a game they are thinking about purchasing. I personally don't put alot of weight in small sites because they are easily swayed by advertising. I think AV could put all the drama about websites rating DF to rest simply by putting out a 7 or 10 day trial. But if Av doesn't stop the population bleed there will be nothing to try.....
Xfire takes literally no ressource at all.
With todays PC it doesn't make any difference if you run it or not. I'm 100% sure Punkbuster (which any respectable FPS player runs with their shooter) takes more PC ressources.
Plus, if your PC really slow down from Xfire it's really, REALLY time you uppgrade that Windows 95.
Did this guy play the full 100 hours that taco said qualified any review?
Lets see the logs.
----------
"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
Nice review but sounds is way to high rated its goddamn awefull 4/10 at most for me sounds in Darkfall are worse ive seen in an mmo:(
They rated grafhics to low they prolly play it on amedium game pc with low settings?
Grafhics are 8.5/10 at least!
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009.....
In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
You mean UNknowgamer.com ?
Originally posted by Vorret
I don't get it... why doesn't big review site like IGN or Gamespot don't review that game?
Any anonymous blogger, like nogamer, can write a review. This game, Darkfall, is the poster-child for shoddy development, game-play, customer-service, community and anything else that matters to gain a notable following.
With seemingly better titles on the horizon, such as Aion, Champions, and Mortal, to name a few, save your cash, because this game is better rated as a ‘2’ out of ‘10’; 2 is for poop.
Everyone knows the Eurogamer review was a fraud. There's this review of 7.4/10, then there's also the Meristation review (biggest and highly respected gaming site in Spain) of 7/10.
Aion is your basic run of the mill Asian grinder crossed with WOW clone. I looked into it a lot but I'm yet to find anything new or even just evolutionary about it except for the luscious graphics, which means nothing in a MMO.
For mortal I am already hearing feedback that it's nowhere near ready, stuff like combat is super laggy, tons of stuff not working or really simplistic. Mortal doesn't come out for at least another 6 months, Darkfall will be on its second expansion by then plus tons of patches, Mortal will be a fresh new MMO with the usual bugs, crashes and missing content.......... on top of already having a much smaller feature list compared to Darkfall............. I'm not holding my breath.
I give more credibility to the Erogamer review than this one. I don't think this guy even played the game. As I stated earlier, shoddy review.
Funny how all the other reviews are around 7 and the eurogamer review is the only low one huh. And how eurogamer still hasn't released another review, cause they know they got caught with their pants down.
If Eurogamer was a fraud, why nowgamer.com is suddenly considered a third top website in the world, even if they rank games with NO REVIEW and have a spelling mistake in its name? Why Meristation not considered fraud, even if they still have games on their list that were canceled?
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
Show me a review from a reputable, well-known site like IGN that has it reviewed at 7/10....
You do understand that MO is in early stages of beta right?
It's going to be several months more of testing before it's even released.
They haven't even finished the crafting system yet, it's still being developed.
If someone actually broke NDA to tell you that the game isn't ready to be released that's good, cause it shouldn't be.
Not to mention,
WTF does this thread have to do with MO? Why do you feel you need to bring MO into this thread? What are you so worried about that you need to post in a DFO thread putting down a game that's in early beta? What's with the insecurities?
Last time I saw a game that got a 7.4 rating wasn't considered a good game by most people.
Originally posted by Harkkum:
This review underlines pretty much the same elements of gameplay as has been stressed on this forum ever since the launch. It doesn't try to hide the flaws, it just so happens that the reviewer admittedly finds free-for-all PvP to be pleasant and interesting. Therefore, the reviewer gives the game a decent grade but by no means can one state that it would be flattering to Aventurine or for Darkfall either. The common consensus, regardless of the final score given, of the reviewers is that the game design is flawed and needs to be corrected. Or can one honestly say that a reviewer writing the following would consider the game a massive success in any foreseeable future:
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When the starting areas are often camped by player-killers, where your early hours require you to learn the ropes, Darkfall can be frustrating beyond measure. Quests are few, rewards are paltry and if your time is constricted by other concerns and you were hoping for unbridled levels of entertainment to stave them off, you will probably want to quickly escape for good. After all, buying the game was hardly the most endearing process.
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Even on parts where he actually gives the game some credit he reminds that these features lack in polish and ought to be developed further. He just so happens to champion the idea of player-driven end game, even with limitations, that a game has received a review of 7.4. I think that it would do more a favour to Darkfall if its most vocal supporters could admit that the Eurogamer review was in many aspects spot on. Just like this latest Total PC Gaming's review. After all, I'd imagine that those playing the game would be the one willing to actually see the game improve further.
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You'll have to excuse me, I don't know how to do the spiffy multiquote.
Harkkum was spot on. Great post.
When I was in school a 74 was a D.
Congrats they didn't fail.
74 is a B.
74 is a B.
Huh?
So where does an "A" start on your scale?
Wow...talk about grade inflation.
A 91 to 100 was an "A" in my day.
No wonder the world is in the shape it is today.
I can accept everything.But by just ranking the sound in DF as 7.1/10 made me a non-believer of this review.You simply cant give a 7.1 on a sound and 6.8 on graphics.He obviously either played with sound on mute or with music on.There is no other explanation.