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Billy Mays death attributed to cocaine use
popinjay
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Reports from his toxicology report coming out now that he was using cocaine (found in his body) and it contributed to his death.
No wonder he was able to be so animated to sell that crap. Kinda makes you wonder what's REALLY in Oxy-Clean.
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Hmm, I guess that's why he was always so upbeat.
So the Sham-wow guy likes hookers, Billy Mayes liked cocaine. Being a pitch-man seems to be a magnet for vice. The other guy on that Pitchmen show is probably a raging cannibal or something.
Bien sur. Of course.
Savage. Cruel. Unkind. Destructive. Utterly brutal. Melts your mind until you live like a zombie. This is addiction.
Yet another loss of life --Michael Jackson (probably) to Bill Mays-- that is totally unnecessary. And people want to "legalize" some of this stuff.
EDIT: Addiction comes in like a flood, and it is some people's religion. Quite sad.
The worst thing about Billy Mays' death is that we'll never get to see the much anticipated rumble between him and Vince "ShamWow" Offer.
He could sell cocaine to even the most hardened anti-drug advocate.
Men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth -- more than ruin -- more even than death.... Thought is subversive and revolutionary, destructive and terrible, thought is merciless to privilege, established institutions, and comfortable habit. Thought looks into the pit of hell and is not afraid. Thought is great and swift and free, the light of the world, and the chief glory of man. -- Bertrand Russell
The drugs that likely contributed to Micheal Jackson's death were already legal and used in hospitals, and could be prescribed by a doctor. In fact, it's said that it wasn't against the law for Jackson's doctor to administer it to him, although it might be slightly unethical.
Billy Mays died from illegal drugs (cocaine) that no sane person or legitimate organization or politician is lobbying to legalize. The one drug people ARE lobbying for has never caused a death that was medically verified. Ever. In the history of mankind, marijuana has caused millions FEWER death than your personal vice that you've advocated on these forums, alcohol. Either through medically induced deaths (Psorosis of liver and other ailments) or non-medical (drunk driving).
Your argument isn't that good here when saying people want to legalize "this stuff", declared.
"TO MICHAEL!"
Of course, like the great pitchman he was... he'd want to give a personal "demostration" of the product first while selling it.
"TO MICHAEL!"
Ain't that the truth. I'm the furthest thing from an impulse shopper and just seeing his commercials almost made me want to go buy half the crap he was pushing.
The drugs that likely contributed to Micheal Jackson's death were already legal and used in hospitals, and could be prescribed by a doctor. In fact, it's said that it wasn't against the law for Jackson's doctor to administer it to him, although it might be slightly unethical.
Billy Mays died from illegal drugs (cocaine) that no sane person or legitimate organization or politician is lobbying to legalize. The one drug people ARE lobbying for has never caused a death that was medically verified. Ever. In the history of mankind, marijuana has caused millions FEWER death than your personal vice that you've advocated on these forums, alcohol. Either through medically induced deaths (Psorosis of liver and other ailments) or non-medical (drunk driving).
Your argument isn't that good here when saying people want to legalize "this stuff", declared.
It is an unfair comparison: alcohol v. marijuana. The consumption of alcohol is much greater and widely distributed. Notwithstanding it is an entirely different drug. If people consumed marijuana to the degree and distribution that they do alcohol, we would see some more serious problems with marijuana.
I do not consider alcohol a vice, and I certainly do not consider it a "personal vice." LOL. And I never advocated alcohol on these forums. I might advocate responsible drinking. I would not suggest to someone to "take-up" alcohol, which is what advocates do. It is a fatuous argument to suggest that I or anyone have advocated for alcohol, yet I sincerely hope you are aware of how quite silly that really is.
EDIT: In fact, I would actually suggest, and this does NOT make me an advocate, that alcohol is beneficial to good living; flavorful meals; and good company. Sure. It is a dreadful vice for many people. It is a problem for many families. I do not diminish nor discount any of that. My mom is psychiatrist, and she, like my great uncle, are "addiction specialists." I know full well how problematic these substances are for so many people. It is tragic, as the untimely death of our friend Mays shows.
EDIT 2: And just so you know, I tend to think of vice as the opposite of virtue. Vice is a bad habit, and virtue is a good habit. My biggest vice is visiting this forum.
And you know what? I am taking a break from this . . . vice. Thank you for bringing that to my attention. I guess we will talk again in a couple days.
Interesting choice of words, sir.
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The drugs that likely contributed to Micheal Jackson's death were already legal and used in hospitals, and could be prescribed by a doctor. In fact, it's said that it wasn't against the law for Jackson's doctor to administer it to him, although it might be slightly unethical.
Billy Mays died from illegal drugs (cocaine) that no sane person or legitimate organization or politician is lobbying to legalize. The one drug people ARE lobbying for has never caused a death that was medically verified. Ever. In the history of mankind, marijuana has caused millions FEWER death than your personal vice that you've advocated on these forums, alcohol. Either through medically induced deaths (Psorosis of liver and other ailments) or non-medical (drunk driving).
Your argument isn't that good here when saying people want to legalize "this stuff", declared.
It is an unfair comparison: alcohol v. marijuana. The consumption of alcohol is much greater and widely distributed. Notwithstanding it is an entirely different drug. If people consumed marijuana to the degree and distribution that they do alcohol, we would see some more serious problems with marijuana.
I do not consider alcohol a vice, and I certainly do not consider it a "personal vice." LOL. And I never advocated alcohol on these forums. I might advocate responsible drinking. I would not suggest to someone to "take-up" alcohol, which is what advocates do. It is a fatuous argument to suggest that I or anyone have advocated for alcohol, yet I sincerely hope you are aware of how quite silly that really is.
EDIT: In fact, I would actually suggest, and this does NOT make me an advocate, that alcohol is beneficial to good living; flavorful meals; and good company. Sure. It is a dreadful vice for many people. It is a problem for many families. I do not diminish nor discount any of that. My mom is psychiatrist, and she, like my great uncle, are "addiction specialists." I know full well how problematic these substances are for so many people. It is tragic, as the untimely death of our friend Mays shows.
EDIT 2: And just so you know, I tend to think of vice as the opposite of virtue. Vice is a bad habit, and virtue is a good habit. My biggest vice is visiting this forum.
And you know what? I am taking a break from this . . . vice. Thank you for bringing that to my attention. I guess we will talk again in a couple days.
Translation:
"My drug (alcohol) is different than other drugs even though it is a drug all the same with dire health effects for people using it. Even though I think those other people should not use all those drugs or that they should ever be legal, mine is perfectly fine as it is. I alone can advocate responsible drug use of alcohol, but someone else cannot advocate responsible drug use of their drug. Even though my drug alcohol has caused more deaths than all the other drugs combined, I don't think there's anything wrong with it being legal.. just because I happen to like this particular one and there is a romantic flair to it. It's sophisticated and not as uncivilized as those other drugs, so its okay because it makes one "cooler" and takes the edge off of reality so things appear plainer and simplier.
Even though I claim its an unfair comparison to make of alcohol vs marijuana, I personally am allowed to lump marijuana with other drugs like heroin, cocaine, methamphetimines and opiates and say people want to legalize all of that, and its all the same.
Now that I have throughly waffled on my position about drugs since someone brought up my previous post glorifying my drug of choice, I shall now exit stage left and come back when everyone has completely forgotten about the hypocrisy."
At least that's what I got out of it. Anyways, enjoy your vacation or whatever, stay safe and don't drink too much.
"TO MICHAEL!"
It is harder to link marijuana to crimes and deaths, and the fact that one is prohibited here in the states while another is flooding the streets tilts the scale a little bit. Rest assured, once legalized, the crashes and crimes associated with marijuana will jump. Personally I think I would rather marijuana be the legal of the two, but I don't do any kind of vice at all and would be pleased if both vanished off the face of the earth for good.
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Sadly, I see storm clouds on the horizon. A faint stench of Vanguard is in the air.-Kien
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Alcohol is a vice, it is a poison, and like any other drug it interferes and diminishes the capability of your very brain. Alcohol doesn't make good company either, ...nor does it benefit you more than it harms you physically. The only reason it isn't viewed the same as cocaine is because it was the first and foremost drug in human civilization and has been a staple for far too long. Its ingrained, even as you say, into our food.
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Sadly, I see storm clouds on the horizon. A faint stench of Vanguard is in the air.-Kien
http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2006/12/13/
I saw this and it breaks my heart. I have seen cocaine destroy lives. I feel terrible that his family will have to live with this legacy.
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I wonder about that sometimes but I get your point.
I still doubt that there would be a way to tell even if death went up. Simply because when you are drunk driving the police give you a breath test which right away tells if you are legally drunk. There is no such instant test for marijuana I know of.
Even if there was, a person could have had marijuana in their system from smoking a month ago, but the court couldn't prove that crash was DIRECTLY related to smoking a joint due to the amount of time that can stay in your body.
About the only way they'd be able to prove it, is if someone dropped a roach in their lap and tried to get it, looked down and crashed and they already log that number now.
I wouldn't look for a huge spike necessarily, but probably a small one that levels out.
"TO MICHAEL!"
Come to think of it, if Billy Mays put on clown makeup, he'd bear a creepy resemblence to Dr. Rockso.
This shit will get you high!
AND THAT'S THAT ALL!
Buy two rocks now and we'll double your order!
That's right, four rocks for the price of two!
AND THAT'S NOT ALL.
Free, with ANY order is a gallon tub of Oxyclean - guaranteed to get those blood spots out of your clothing after a night of sniffing!
This shit will get you high!
AND THAT'S THAT ALL!
Buy two rocks now and we'll double your order!
That's right, four rocks for the price of two!
AND THAT'S NOT ALL.
Free, with ANY order is a gallon tub of Oxyclean - guaranteed to get those blood spots out of your clothing after a night of sniffing!
This just in, the secret ingredient in Oxyclean has been identified as oxycodone. We should have seen it coming.
"I still doubt that there would be a way to tell even if death went up. Simply because when you are drunk driving the police give you a breath test which right away tells if you are legally drunk. There is no such instant test for marijuana I know of."
I don't know about every state in the USA, but in mine when you apply for a driver's license or even pass through the state, there is a clause stating if a cop arrests you for DUI or DWI they can take a forceable blood test. You essentially waive the right of refusal by accepting the driver's license. The instant test for drugs is behavioral to give probable cause. With that you will be detained to a facility til the warrent comes in from a judge if you refuse.
http://www.azleg.state.az.us/FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/ars/28/01321.htm&Title=28&DocType=ARS . "28-1321. Implied consent; tests; refusal to submit to test; order of suspension; hearing; review; temporary permit; notification of suspension; special ignition interlock restricted driver license
A. A person who operates a motor vehicle in this state gives consent, subject to section 4-244, paragraph 33 or section 28-1381, 28-1382 or 28-1383, to a test or tests of the person's blood, breath, urine or other bodily substance for the purpose of determining alcohol concentration or drug content if the person is arrested for any offense arising out of acts alleged to have been committed in violation of this chapter or section 4-244, paragraph 33 while the person was driving or in actual physical control of a motor vehicle while under the influence of intoxicating liquor or drugs. The test or tests chosen by the law enforcement agency shall be administered at the direction of a law enforcement officer having reasonable grounds to believe that the person was driving or in actual physical control of a motor vehicle in this state either:
1. While under the influence of intoxicating liquor or drugs.
2. If the person is under twenty-one years of age, with spirituous liquor in the person's body.
B. After an arrest a violator shall be requested to submit to and successfully complete any test or tests prescribed by subsection A of this section, and if the violator refuses the violator shall be informed that the violator's license or permit to drive will be suspended or denied for twelve months, or for two years for a second or subsequent refusal within a period of eighty-four months, unless the violator expressly agrees to submit to and successfully completes the test or tests. A failure to expressly agree to the test or successfully complete the test is deemed a refusal."..."D. If a person under arrest refuses to submit to the test designated by the law enforcement agency as provided in subsection A of this section:
1. The test shall not be given, except as provided in section 28-1388, subsection E or pursuant to a search warrant."
http://www.azleg.state.az.us/FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/ars/28/01388.htm&Title=28&DocType=ARS "E. Notwithstanding any other law, if a law enforcement officer has probable cause to believe that a person has violated section 28-1381 and a sample of blood, urine or other bodily substance is taken from that person for any reason, a portion of that sample sufficient for analysis shall be provided to a law enforcement officer if requested for law enforcement purposes. A person who fails to comply with this subsection is guilty of a class 1 misdemeanor."
People also generally seem to think there is no field tests for things other than alcohol. Cops do not have to give a breath test to arrest. There are behaviors they are trained to observe that under law give them probable cause. http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/misc/ct/fieldsobriety.html "The development of specific programs for detecting drug impairment in some jurisdictions suggests that there may be a basis for distinguishing between field tests to determine impairment by drugs and alcohol. The Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD) has made a distinction between alcohol and drugs and specified a set of tests and procedures for detecting drug use based on research sponsored by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA). The LAPD uses eight tests: one-leg stand, finger-to-nose, walk-the-line, standing steadiness, nystagmus (involuntary jerking as the eyes gaze to the side or upward), pupil reaction, pupil size, and pulse rate. The officer also looks for skin marks, apathy, drowsiness, and hyperactivity. The LAPD believes that an experienced officer should be able to determine the type or class of drugs involved (Taylor, Drunk Driving Defense § 1.4.1)."
I hope this helps. The idea that dui for drugs will go unnoticed because cops are not trained or that laws do not provide a legal way to test is wrong. Cops just need probable cause based on field sobriety test to arrest you or ask for a test. Refusal can lead to detention as they get a warrent under probable cause observed. With that warrent they can draw blood. Then you are screwed.
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The drugs that likely contributed to Micheal Jackson's death were already legal and used in hospitals, and could be prescribed by a doctor. In fact, it's said that it wasn't against the law for Jackson's doctor to administer it to him, although it might be slightly unethical.
Billy Mays died from illegal drugs (cocaine) that no sane person or legitimate organization or politician is lobbying to legalize. The one drug people ARE lobbying for has never caused a death that was medically verified. Ever. In the history of mankind, marijuana has caused millions FEWER death than your personal vice that you've advocated on these forums, alcohol. Either through medically induced deaths (Psorosis of liver and other ailments) or non-medical (drunk driving).
Your argument isn't that good here when saying people want to legalize "this stuff", declared.
It is an unfair comparison: alcohol v. marijuana. The consumption of alcohol is much greater and widely distributed. Notwithstanding it is an entirely different drug. If people consumed marijuana to the degree and distribution that they do alcohol, we would see some more serious problems with marijuana.
I do not consider alcohol a vice, and I certainly do not consider it a "personal vice." LOL. And I never advocated alcohol on these forums. I might advocate responsible drinking. I would not suggest to someone to "take-up" alcohol, which is what advocates do. It is a fatuous argument to suggest that I or anyone have advocated for alcohol, yet I sincerely hope you are aware of how quite silly that really is.
EDIT: In fact, I would actually suggest, and this does NOT make me an advocate, that alcohol is beneficial to good living; flavorful meals; and good company. Sure. It is a dreadful vice for many people. It is a problem for many families. I do not diminish nor discount any of that. My mom is psychiatrist, and she, like my great uncle, are "addiction specialists." I know full well how problematic these substances are for so many people. It is tragic, as the untimely death of our friend Mays shows.
EDIT 2: And just so you know, I tend to think of vice as the opposite of virtue. Vice is a bad habit, and virtue is a good habit. My biggest vice is visiting this forum.
And you know what? I am taking a break from this . . . vice. Thank you for bringing that to my attention. I guess we will talk again in a couple days.
Translation:
"My drug (alcohol) is different than other drugs even though it is a drug all the same with dire health effects for people using it. Even though I think those other people should not use all those drugs or that they should ever be legal, mine is perfectly fine as it is. I alone can advocate responsible drug use of alcohol, but someone else cannot advocate responsible drug use of their drug. Even though my drug alcohol has caused more deaths than all the other drugs combined, I don't think there's anything wrong with it being legal.. just because I happen to like this particular one and there is a romantic flair to it. It's sophisticated and not as uncivilized as those other drugs, so its okay because it makes one "cooler" and takes the edge off of reality so things appear plainer and simplier.
Even though I claim its an unfair comparison to make of alcohol vs marijuana, I personally am allowed to lump marijuana with other drugs like heroin, cocaine, methamphetimines and opiates and say people want to legalize all of that, and its all the same.
Now that I have throughly waffled on my position about drugs since someone brought up my previous post glorifying my drug of choice, I shall now exit stage left and come back when everyone has completely forgotten about the hypocrisy."
At least that's what I got out of it. Anyways, enjoy your vacation or whatever, stay safe and don't drink too much.
This is the grossest and most outrageous misinterpretation of what I wrote that I have ever seen in my entire life. I do not know if it is an attempt at humor, or if it is something else. What that something else is, however, I honestly cannot say. Its source, however, having previously promised not to assume anything about me, has gone not one or two but fifteen steps further: constructing my comments and ideas so far beyond their plain and clear meaning to render them utterly meaningless. It is unfair, unethical, and dishonorable to do such a thing. I understand this is MMORPG, and I understand none of us are holding ourselves to any sort of decent or proper standard. Nevertheless, to take anyone's words and then say, "translation" after having just said you would assume nothing is either an unsuccessful attempt at humor or something else.
As an aside, it is unfortunate that people abuse alcohol (for themselves and their families). It is unfortunate that people abuse food, relationships, nice shoes, and over-priced golf clubs. I have seen it all done in my lifetime.
People should exercise self-control and responsibility. EDIT: And you know what? People should agree with ME, especially the anti-alcohol but pro-marijuana crowd. If this is what we have with alcohol and pharmaceutical and illicit drugs, the LAST thing we need is yet another drug that is more accessible and affordable.