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dinanm3atl
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I loved Pre-Trammel UO. I am in the first day of trial of EQ2. I played EQ and WoW. Also PotBS and WAR.
Looking for something to hold my interest till the new Star Wars game comes out since I have a lot of local friends who are going to jump into that. EQ2 is a little too streamlines and do this and this and this and then hit next zone.
AoC looks VERY interesting to me and seems like PvP is a bit different from the norm. Sounds like the combat system is something new and improved.
Should I jump in?
Old Skool Ultima Online Junky
Bring back the OLD UO so I can play again
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trust me, enough ppl will reply that you should or should not try it for many reasons, but your own opinion matters most so download the trial
edit: couldnt find a link to it on the homepage.. so here it is: https://register.ageofconan.com/trial/
i tried it too, game was nice, combat system was certainly something new imho, but the game couldnt hold my interest in it
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Give the trial a go. If the link above doesn't work Fileplanet has one that you only need to register, NOT subscribe.
PvP will probably have a lot of gankers and griefers. So you either need to outsmart, adapt or try a PvE server. I've heard best way to survive on the pvp server is to get into a good guild and team up while questing.
You might try starting out on a pve server so you can get use to the classes and controls then make one on a pvp server.
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Promote what you love instead of bashing what you hate.
I don't think the game has any longetivity but it's definatly fun for a few weeks, so with a free trial or a few dollar copy with a month included from a bargain bin you will have fun for a few weeks at least, nothing to lose. If the game turns out to have longetivity for you all the better.
Good point. 14 days in EQ2 and see what AoC has got.
Maybe less if it wears off quicker than 14 days!
Old Skool Ultima Online Junky
Bring back the OLD UO so I can play again
make sure you choose the right server for the trial, and be sure to avoid pvp servers if you dont like getting ganked.
the pvp servers can be brutal if you have no guild to help defend you.
make sure to check out white sands pvp in tortage, its a good prequil to some of the pvp hotspots later on in the game. A lot of fun if your into that kind of pvp.
oh and find a guild asap, if not for anything other than the chat.
Allow me to translate this sunshiny statement into reality.
If you roll on a PvP server you will have zero fun--there will be no out smarting a pack of peeps 10 levels above you; and most guilds certainly won't "Hold your Hand," if you are in your first 30 levels on a trail...that's a joke in any game...but especially in AoC. If you roll on a PvP server you can expect to be passed around the camp fire like a bag of chips. They will hunt you in packs because to these 13 yr old gank squads you are just PvP XP.
If you roll PvE...you'll actually see the game and will level unhampered, but this is offset by being on a server with a less-than healthy population. Most people are bored out of their minds on these servers due to lack of content and meaningful armour to pursue...I mean there's simply nothing to do.../shrug. So eventually you'll go PvP if you stick with the game just because you'll be bored into it; if for no other reason.
This is what she is trying to say...except mine is reality based...her's is the "high" fantasy version lol!
Either way, I agree try the free trial.
Allow me to translate this sunshiny statement into reality.
PvP servers are not so bad if you roll a a barb or a ranger.
"Everything the light touches is our kingdom" -- Mufasa
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Allow me to translate this sunshiny statement into reality.
If you roll on a PvP server you will have zero fun--there will be no out smarting a pack of peeps 10 levels above you; and most guilds certainly won't "Hold your Hand," if you are in your first 30 levels on a trail...that's a joke in any game...but especially in AoC. If you roll on a PvP server you can expect to be passed around the camp fire like a bag of chips. They will hunt you in packs because to these 13 yr old gank squads you are just PvP XP.
If you roll PvE...you'll actually see the game and will level unhampered, but this is offset by being on a server with a less-than healthy population. Most people are bored out of their minds on these servers due to lack of content and meaningful armour to pursue...I mean there's simply nothing to do.../shrug. So eventually you'll go PvP if you stick with the game just because you'll be bored into it; if for no other reason.
This is what she is trying to say...except mine is reality based...her's is the "high" fantasy version lol!
Either way, I agree try the free trial.
This comes from someone who doesn't play the game. I'm not bored out of my mind. Population is fine. I have no problems finding groups. Plenty of good guilds to go around to fit your playstyle I'm sure.
You're welcome to believe or take into consideration whoever you want, but at the end of the day did you have fun in the game? That's all matters. It's a video game.
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Promote what you love instead of bashing what you hate.
The population is fine on the PvE servers (Wiccana and Set specifically for NA). The atmosphere is pretty good. There is pvp (including mini games & sieges) on the two PvE servers but they do not spawn as much as they do on a PvP server.
The PvP servers tend to have alot of trash talking going on them. On the PvP servers, the language reminds me of fighting games / fighting game forums. There are however some extremely good pvpers on the pvp servers.
couldnt agree more. i still play eq an i like haveing aoc as a second mmo.the pvp servers just not for me im afraid but wiccana server is great.just dont jusdge the game by global!it gets weird depending on the time of the day.
gear in aoc depending on your class is not as important as say eq1.but it can make your leveling much easyer.considering the ops history odds are you would enjoy aoc.some great stroies in the quests to.
"Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing." Robert E. Howard, The Tower of the Elephant (1933)
If you loved Pre trammel UO and not tried Darkfall then do so, is far more a PVP MMO than AOC will ever be imho.
Blackwell has never played on a PvP server...This game is so carebare it makes me hurt. Carrebare meaning even the people on PvP servers don't engage in much PvP due to penalties because some people QQed and now if you kill someone lower level yuou need to grind for hours to be able to use towns or anything again.
This is a big joke of a pvp game, everyone in the world knows this.
IMO do a trial it seems like more people quit after trials than people quiting at release. 95% at release vs. 100% after release. I know the logical falicy, but enough old timers left during trials to null the 5% or whatever of people that kept playing. This is a bad game and it can't get new people to play or stay.
Funcom has reviewed all of its assets relevant for
impairment testing. This process has led to
recognition of an impairment loss of around
3,1 MUSD for Age of Conan due to a decrease in
numbers of subscribers for the game. Funcom Q4 10 report.
http://forums.ageofconan.com/showpost.php?p=2926123&postcount=7 500 mains/alts on Tyranny in past 30 days - instead of merge servers let's open a new PvP server, again! http://forums-eu.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=106427
As other people have said, only the trial will really show you what the game is like so that you can make a decision on your own. That said, I would be very, very wary. The game is actually very well made, but the community it attracted is just horrible.
"There are two great powers, and they've been fighting since time began. Every advance in human life, every scrap of knowledge and wisdom and decency we have has been torn by one side from the teeth of the other. Every little increase in human freedom has been fought over ferociously between those who want us to know more and be wiser and stronger, and those who want us to obey and be humble and submit."
John Parry, to his son Will; "The Subtle Knife," by Phillip Pullman
Blackwell has never played on a PvP server...This game is so carebare it makes me hurt. Carrebare meaning even the people on PvP servers don't engage in much PvP due to penalties because some people QQed and now if you kill someone lower level yuou need to grind for hours to be able to use towns or anything again.
This is a big joke of a pvp game, everyone in the world knows this.
IMO do a trial it seems like more people quit after trials than people quiting at release. 95% at release vs. 100% after release. I know the logical falicy, but enough old timers left during trials to null the 5% or whatever of people that kept playing. This is a bad game and it can't get new people to play or stay.
I do not agree with this post (or the 310 other negative posts you have written about AoC, move on...).
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On tyranny server, bought the 19.99 digital download came with 32 days of playtime, I will most likely not pay for another month of sub but only because i will probally play aion.
The game has great graphics, runs really well on my pc so far, (have 2 lvl 20 characters just out of tortage) and overall I like the game.
The cons for me are, the community so far has been the worst thing I have ever seen, I have seen people make guilds with a bunch of 19-25 lvl players and then just sit at the entrance of white sands and the underhalls to grief all night making the beggining of the game very frustrating as you have no chance against them.
Second on the cons is the pvp system itself, A guy will walk up to me and kill me in a few hits or so and I get the aggressor buff when i didnt even attack back, and then I will at times get the criminal buff when i did not attack, I've heard that you have to grind out of that later in the game and if you can get stuck in that situation just by someone else attacking you that would be a gamebreaker for me even If I intended to keep playing.
If I do continue to play I may go to wicanna, non-pvp server that has active mini-games and sieges from what I have read, I will just miss the danger aspect of fighting in the world but the griefing goes way to far in this game.
Blackwell has never played on a PvP server...This game is so carebare it makes me hurt. Carrebare meaning even the people on PvP servers don't engage in much PvP due to penalties because some people QQed and now if you kill someone lower level yuou need to grind for hours to be able to use towns or anything again.
This is a big joke of a pvp game, everyone in the world knows this.
IMO do a trial it seems like more people quit after trials than people quiting at release. 95% at release vs. 100% after release. I know the logical falicy, but enough old timers left during trials to null the 5% or whatever of people that kept playing. This is a bad game and it can't get new people to play or stay.
I do not agree with this post (or the 310 other negative posts you have written about AoC, move on...).
900,000 p[layers have moved on and there used to be a PvP majority and today it is not so.. The PvP system sucks - the person I quoted does not play on a PvP server, hell he was selling the OP on a PvE server, and I doubt you ever would play on a PvP server. P.S. the PvE is AoC sucks so far it isn't anywhere near the bar set by any other major pay to play MMO.
PvP servers in AoC: No penalties for dying, not even in PvE. No rewards for killing ...lmao 5 PvP levels with crap gear. BIG penalties for killing people a few levels lower. AoC is the easiest MMO ever made on every level so if you like easy games play AoC.
Funcom has reviewed all of its assets relevant for
impairment testing. This process has led to
recognition of an impairment loss of around
3,1 MUSD for Age of Conan due to a decrease in
numbers of subscribers for the game. Funcom Q4 10 report.
http://forums.ageofconan.com/showpost.php?p=2926123&postcount=7 500 mains/alts on Tyranny in past 30 days - instead of merge servers let's open a new PvP server, again! http://forums-eu.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=106427
I recommend you playing Cimmeria, or another RP-PVP server. There's a lot of PVP, but it has a better community the Tyranny.
Also, don't listen too much to the haters in this forum. Try it for yourself, test a few classes, learn to PVP, maybe find a good guild. Then make up your mind.
900,000 p[layers have moved on NO SOURCE/UNTRUE and there used to be a PvP majority and today it is not so..NO SOURCE/UNTRUE The PvP system sucks OPINION - the person I quoted does not play on a PvP server, hell he was selling the OP on a PvE server, and I doubt you ever would play on a PvP server. P.S. the PvE is AoC sucks so far OPINION it isn't anywhere near the bar set by any other major pay to play MMO. OPINION
PvP servers in AoC: No penalties for dying, not even in PvE WRONG. No rewards for killing WRONG ...lmao 5 PvP levels with crap gear OPINION. BIG penalties for killing people a few levels lower WRONG. AoC is the easiest MMO ever made on every level NO SOURCE/UNTRUE so if you like easy games play AoC.
As someone who just joined AoC 2 weeks ago, I can say it is worth playing, more so than most MMOs out there. Sure it is not perfect, but in comparison it introduces many concepts not seen in other MMOs.
Blackwell has never played on a PvP server...This game is so carebare it makes me hurt. Carrebare meaning even the people on PvP servers don't engage in much PvP due to penalties because some people QQed and now if you kill someone lower level yuou need to grind for hours to be able to use towns or anything again.
This is a big joke of a pvp game, everyone in the world knows this.
IMO do a trial it seems like more people quit after trials than people quiting at release. 95% at release vs. 100% after release. I know the logical falicy, but enough old timers left during trials to null the 5% or whatever of people that kept playing. This is a bad game and it can't get new people to play or stay.
Whats this i hear? People dont engage in pvp due to penalties? What like pvp xp?
Theres pvp all over the place, should have chosen crimmeria or tyranny.
Oh mabey you mean murder points, heres a tip dont grief the lowbies, and if they attack you, you can kill with no penalty.
The result of this, people hang out on the maps with players their levels and gank,grief, and duel with players in their level range. You only get good pvp xp from killing very close to your level range, and for only a few kills per character. This is an incentive to pk as many first time kills of other character in your range.
Never heard this complaint anywhere before....people dont engage in pvp on the pvp servers....
900,000 p[layers have moved on NO SOURCE/UNTRUE and there used to be a PvP majority and today it is not so..NO SOURCE/UNTRUE The PvP system sucks OPINION - the person I quoted does not play on a PvP server, hell he was selling the OP on a PvE server, and I doubt you ever would play on a PvP server. P.S. the PvE is AoC sucks so far OPINION it isn't anywhere near the bar set by any other major pay to play MMO. OPINION
PvP servers in AoC: No penalties for dying, not even in PvE WRONG. No rewards for killing WRONG ...lmao 5 PvP levels with crap gear OPINION. BIG penalties for killing people a few levels lower WRONG. AoC is the easiest MMO ever made on every level NO SOURCE/UNTRUE so if you like easy games play AoC.
I played on Tyranny it is a joke compared to WoW, War, EQ, GW, and AoC was supposed to be the PvP game, it failed so hard after over a year to fix stuff.
That is easy watch Xfire or any forum trafic or do the simple equation 10k per server and there are 6 servers world wide = 60k.
However, the equation is limited as it only calculates peak populaion and as there are more servers it is off a bit yet since 100k people played and quit over the last 3 months we know this with 100% certentinty per Xfire, sorry if your didn't take college math.
So 70 k population at most and the big 6 servers are only half full. The game is so bad the people who stayed to play were replaced with the people leaving it.
If the PvP system was good more than 5% of players who tried it would keep trying it by subbing and then they would bring their friends in to play it. The PvP system sucks, everyone knows it is a joke, this is not a PvP game. So my opinion is backed by a myriad of people who said up yours Funcom and unsubscribed.
PvE? Ya if it was good people would be playing it, if it was good there would be PvE guilds like Fire of Heaven, Afterlife, hell all the real PvE guilds quit and they had no big names in the line up, the PvE has been lame since launch. Is the a single PvE guild that was a top 20 at launch foro the first 3 bosses left? I think not and if there is they sure as hell have no original players.
There are no penalties and 5 levels is pretty lame. Basically you are sad that your few servers are dying It would be like aall the fish in the ocean almost dying and the remainders being senbt to the great lakes to await thier fate.
we all know AoC fails and everything I said it true. I'm glad the remaining 5% of people disagree. There is a minority of people who believe that some things are untrue and don't think they should get criminalized for whatever so I have no idea your emotional involvement with this title but it doesn;t come from playing as this game lacks the big MMO thing, commradery because alomost everyone keeps quiting it.
Funcom has reviewed all of its assets relevant for
impairment testing. This process has led to
recognition of an impairment loss of around
3,1 MUSD for Age of Conan due to a decrease in
numbers of subscribers for the game. Funcom Q4 10 report.
http://forums.ageofconan.com/showpost.php?p=2926123&postcount=7 500 mains/alts on Tyranny in past 30 days - instead of merge servers let's open a new PvP server, again! http://forums-eu.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=106427
900,000 p[layers have moved on NO SOURCE/UNTRUE and there used to be a PvP majority and today it is not so..NO SOURCE/UNTRUE The PvP system sucks OPINION - the person I quoted does not play on a PvP server, hell he was selling the OP on a PvE server, and I doubt you ever would play on a PvP server. P.S. the PvE is AoC sucks so far OPINION it isn't anywhere near the bar set by any other major pay to play MMO. OPINION
PvP servers in AoC: No penalties for dying, not even in PvE WRONG. No rewards for killing WRONG ...lmao 5 PvP levels with crap gear OPINION. BIG penalties for killing people a few levels lower WRONG. AoC is the easiest MMO ever made on every level NO SOURCE/UNTRUE so if you like easy games play AoC.
Wow I'm gobsmacked! This is how you back up your factual statements?
I played on Tyranny it is a joke compared to WoW, War, EQ, GW, and AoC was supposed to be the PvP game, it failed so hard after over a year to fix stuff. OPINION
That is easy watch Xfire or any forum trafic or do the simple equation 10k per server and there are 6 servers world wide = 60k.
However, the equation is limited as it only calculates peak populaion and as there are more servers it is off a bit yet since 100k people played and quit over the last 3 months we know this with 100% certentinty per Xfire NO SOURCE/UNTRUE sorry if your didn't take college math.
Yes the equation is limited. Possibly because you used 6 servers in it when (as far as I am aware) there are actually 27.
So 70 k population at most and the big 6 servers are only half full. The game is so bad the people who stayed to play were replaced with the people leaving it. OPINION
If the PvP system was good more than 5% of players who tried it would keep trying it by subbing and then they would bring their friends in to play it. OPINION The PvP system sucks, OPINION everyone knows it is a joke,WRONG this is not a PvP gameOPINION. So my opinion is backed by a myriad of people who said up yours Funcom and unsubscribed. And my opinion is backed up by a myriad of people who disagree with you and are still playing the game.
PvE? Ya if it was good people would be playing it,PEOPLE ARE PLAYING IT if it was good there would be PvE guilds like Fire of Heaven, Afterlife,OPINION hell all the real PvE guilds quit NO SOURCE/UNTRUE and they had no big names in the line up, NO SOURCE/UNTRUE the PvE has been lame since launch. OPINION Is the a single PvE guild that was a top 20 at launch foro the first 3 bosses left? I think not and if there is they sure as hell have no original players.NO SOURCE/UNTRUE
There are no penalties WRONG and 5 levels is pretty lame.OPINION Basically you are sad that your few servers are dying It would be like aall the fish in the ocean almost dying and the remainders being senbt to the great lakes to await thier fate.
No I'm not sad, I just feel that I have to point out that actually almost all of what you say has no factual grounding in case newcomers to the forum mistakenly think that the nonsense you post is accepted among the AoC community or even has any basis in reality
we all know AoC fails and everything I said it true. WRONG I'm glad the remaining 5% of people disagree. 5% NO SOURCE/UNTRUE There is a minority of people who believe that some things are untrue NO SOURCE/UNTRUE and don't think they should get criminalized for whatever so I have no idea your emotional involvement with this title but it doesn;t come from playing as this game lacks the big MMO thing, OPINION commradery because alomost everyone keeps quiting it. NO SOURCE/UNTRUE
Aye, you should at least give it a go. With the free trial there's not much to lose.
The PvP-servers can be a bitch if you're not into killing and get killed, but with the increased activity these days, you'll find healthy populations on most servers.
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900,000 p[layers have moved on NO SOURCE/UNTRUE and there used to be a PvP majority and today it is not so..NO SOURCE/UNTRUE The PvP system sucks OPINION - the person I quoted does not play on a PvP server, hell he was selling the OP on a PvE server, and I doubt you ever would play on a PvP server. P.S. the PvE is AoC sucks so far OPINION it isn't anywhere near the bar set by any other major pay to play MMO. OPINION
PvP servers in AoC: No penalties for dying, not even in PvE WRONG. No rewards for killing WRONG ...lmao 5 PvP levels with crap gear OPINION. BIG penalties for killing people a few levels lower WRONG. AoC is the easiest MMO ever made on every level NO SOURCE/UNTRUE so if you like easy games play AoC.
That is easy watch Xfire or any forum trafic or do the simple equation 10k per server and there are 6 servers world wide = 60k.
Where do you have the information that servers can only hold 10K players? Is this max 10K players online at once or 10K unique player accounts in total?
However, the equation is limited as it only calculates peak populaion and as there are more servers it is off a bit yet since 100k people played and quit over the last 3 months we know this with 100% certentinty per Xfire, sorry if your didn't take college math.
Your college math won't help you much when using Xfire to calculate, sorry but the only thing you can use xfire for is measuring the popularity of a game. Using it to calculate an exact amount of subscriber number is as accurate as sicking your finger in the air and guessing. There are too many factors that can influence xfire. Anyone who has college math should know this, as they should have learned how statistics works by now.
And there is about 26 servers worldwide so your 6 servers worldwide is just a bit off 
So 70 k population at most and the big 6 servers are only half full. The game is so bad the people who stayed to play were replaced with the people leaving it.
First you say that the server population worldwide are 60K, now 70K at most. Make up your mind or stop throwing out random numbers.
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+1 to last 2 posts.
As far as PVP gear goes you can tell by the ignorance that finaticd never got to pvp lvl higher than 2. When I was still active on my Bearshaman I was asked many times to actually strip out off my pvp gear, since it makes to much of a difference. I don't know if they somehow fixed it but that was kinda an issue with 1.04 - pvp gear being to important for the game that promised us minimum gear dependence.
You two are like some sort of chronical sex disease - you come make a mess get slaughtered or just proven wrong on every single post you make than you disapear and come back when you realise that this is the best of your life. For real guys. If you want to bash the game do yourself a favor and buy a subscription - try the game and come back with VIABLE points.
There is actually quite a few really messed up things - for instance: sieges, no addition endgame content (RPers are bored in this game and even a hardcore pvp only player gets tired killing same faces for 8 hours every day), no events whatsover (AO veterans will remember epic alien city raids where for the lullz gms took an image off a raid boss and players went WTF this dude is killing us one by one and we can't hurt him at all ... there was so much laughter after). Events are really the thing missing in todays MMOs I think. Same goes for Lord of the rings.
BUT useless PVP gear is not an issue. And probably soon we will have legendary pvp armor. Hopefully ....