Well, if you were honest, you'd have to admit that you're one of the worst ones when it comes to possing and moaning whenever anybody says anything about this game that isn't fanboi positive. xD.
While people like yourself are constanly rubbing that crystal ball for answers to doom and gloom.
Not only do they fill in gaps in information about the game by pulling random dreams from between the giant fleshy crack of their ass, but they post wall after wall of text expecting any detracters to take the time to read each and every syllable.
This is a single player game, with an extremely odd art direction. Period. Quit making "this is alpha" excuses. The art direction of a game doesnt change dramatically from alpha to beta - so that arguement is sheer lunacy. You either like the art style of the characters (don't pretend you do), or you don't.
BioWare has also already stated, time and time again, that they are focusing on single player aspects of the game, with only paltry "and we'll have all that other mmo stuff as well" in regards to every other aspect of ... say... WHAT MAKES AN MMO.
The game will be fun, but it's not going to be an mmo, and it's not going to have a solid retention of player base.
The art direction of a game doesnt change dramatically from alpha to beta -
Figure I would point out how wrong you are
WoW alpha
Anyways
Wow, really? you're going to go there with pre-alpha blizzard screenshots and call it a publication worthy alpha image? GG sir, you are an amazingly talented fanboi. I salute you.
They've already NAMED their art style in every SWTOR video (StyLiZeD ReALiSm). Are you telling me they're going to come up with a unique look and moniker for each stage?
What you posted were very VERY early TEST renders Blizzard did. Not play test worth alpha media. Hence the reason those were never seen in wide release.
But you keep thinking the cartoony SWTOR graphics and god-awful animations are going to change. Be sure and tell all your friends who question it the same thing too. I can't wait for release day when ..*gasp* they're the same.
There's a reason almost no one ever saw the image you posted above (I, in fact, have). Because Blizzard knew that wasn't their final style or design. BioWare is spamming the interwebz, hyping the game, with a final art direction. It makes literally NO sense for them to send forth images and videos filled with something they know will be changing.
Are you really trying to tell me BioWare is releasing ALL of these videos with the intent of dramatically changing what people are now used to seeing?
Wow, really? you're going to go there with pre-alpha blizzard screenshots and call it a publication worthy alpha image? GG sir, you are an amazingly talented fanboi. I salute you. My point is details are subject to change. where you think ToRs graphics suck now could possibly change for beta or during release. They've already NAMED their art style in every SWTOR video (StyLiZeD ReALiSm). Are you telling me they're going to come up with a unique look and moniker for each stage? See above. I'm not a huge fan of Stylized Realism, but I understand reasons for choosing it. Graphics engines update a lot so what you see now I'm pretty much garentee will look different on release. Plus, after looking at your post count you have a hard on it seems for CO. And to be honest that games art direction is the same if not worse. What you posted were very VERY early TEST renders Blizzard did. Not play test worth alpha media. Hence the reason those were never seen in wide release. I'm actually pretty sure the UI didn't look like that in alpha but the character customization and props did. I could be wrong, but it changed didn't it? Besides there is no set date for release judging the game now is to early.
But you keep thinking the cartoony SWTOR graphics and god-awful animations are going to change. If you dislike it then why do you spend time here. Typical loser with nothing better to do then ruin other peoples fun because you fail to have any for yourself? Be sure and tell all your friends who question it the same thing too. I can't wait for release day when ..*gasp* they're the same. Oh noes this guy doesn't like the direction this game is going in, so he pushes his agenda on others that do ^gasp^ fucking shocker. Are you sure you are not having a "rampant nerd-rage" over a game you don't plan on playing. seriously guy grow up, move on. There's a reason almost no one ever saw the image you posted above (I, in fact, have). Because Blizzard knew that wasn't their final style or design. BioWare is spamming the interwebz, hyping the game, with a final art direction. It makes literally NO sense for them to send forth images and videos filled with something they know will be changing. Give a year or two, come back look at it, if it's not your cup of tea, find another game.
The OP is right. This is not some revolutionary MMO. It's mostly just looks like a multiplayer RPG.
Guess what? The MMO features of the game are not the reason to play it, it's the story.
I've played most of the Bioware games, and I've loved the stories of each one. I'm confident they can pull off a great RPG that I will enjoy. Fanboys need to give up the fact that this is going to be an MMO that is going to be everything to eveyrone.
i don't mind a good story but it keeps me wondering what they are going to offer me once i have completed that story? what is the endgame?
so far i have seen little to no info on it and tbh the way they keep ranting on about the story, i think it will be utter crap at launch. In the end it's fresh content that keeps me playing, the story will no doubt keep me going for a few months but after that i need something fun that i can do every once in a while to keep me going (dungeons, raids, maybe some PvP).
MMO wish list:
-Changeable worlds -Solid non level based game -Sharks with lasers attached to their heads
Wow, really? you're going to go there with pre-alpha blizzard screenshots and call it a publication worthy alpha image? GG sir, you are an amazingly talented fanboi. I salute you. My point is details are subject to change. where you think ToRs graphics suck now could possibly change for beta or release. They've already NAMED their art style in every SWTOR video (StyLiZeD ReALiSm). Are you telling me they're going to come up with a unique look and moniker for each stage? See above. I'm not a huge fan of Stylized Realism, but I understand reasons for choosing it. Graphics engines update a lot so what you see now I'm pretty much garentee will look different on release. Plus, after looking at your post count you have a hard on it seems for CO. And to be honest that games art direction is the same if not worse. What you posted were very VERY early TEST renders Blizzard did. Not play test worth alpha media. Hence the reason those were never seen in wide release. I'm actually pretty sure the UI didn't look like that in alpha but the character customization and props did. I could be wrong, but it changed didn't it? Besides there is no set date for release judging the game now is to early.
But you keep thinking the cartoony SWTOR graphics and god-awful animations are going to change. If you dislike it then why do you spend time here. Typical loser with nothing better to do then ruin other peoples fun because you fail to have any for yourself? Be sure and tell all your friends who question it the same thing too. I can't wait for release day when ..*gasp* they're the same. Oh noes this guy doesn't like the direction this game is going in, so he pushes his agenda on others that do ^gasp^ fucking shocker. Are you sure you are not having a "rampant nerd-rage" over a game you don't plan on playing. seriously guy grow up, move on.
Where you're completely wrong is that I do not have an agenda. Even if I did, the mmorpg.com forums would not be my choice to push one. Unlike the OP....
I commented on nothing but art direction, and I'm allowed my opinions. I'm tired of this "if you dont like it, then get out!" callous disregard for dissention. It's laughable at best, and pitiable at worst.
Hard on for CO? I post over the last few weeks in the CO forums - a game coming out in a few weeks - and more relevant than most other forums, and all of a sudden, I have a hard on ... you're clearly not as intelligent as you'd like this forum to believe. Falling back on ad hominem and grasping at straws only devalidates any attempt you were making to sound sophisticated and articulate. I made no comments about CO. YOU did. I made no comparison, YOU did. I'm not allowed to have an opinion on one game without you comparing it to a POST history in a completely unrelated forum and genre? GG, but you fail at the internet.
You need to repeat forum wars 101, because you obviously haven't learned a thing.
I will be playing SWTOR. I will enjoy it. I will not like the art style, and I will not like the fact that its a single player theme-park game. You can't change my mind with snarky comments and witty internet banter and your attempts to PWN me on a message board.
The art direction is childish for a game targetting a much more mature audience. It's trite and demeaning to push "stylized realism" what I consider to be a slightly more sophisticated audience than, say... WoW's.
But you keep blowing your horn and hope it drowns out logic and reason.
ok, im not a fanboy, i am looking forward to this game however, what i want to know is why so much criticism of the games art style, looks good to me, we are talking about a FUCKING VIDEO GAME here people, not some sort of attempt at creating a photorealistic version of the star wars universe.
Im starting to think people will only be happy when they can recreate the pimples on their own asses on thier avatar.
if you dont like the direction this game is taking, stop bitching, and find something else to spend your time on, pretty simple concept.
Where you're completely wrong is that I do not have an agenda. Even if I did, the mmorpg.com forums would not be my choice to push one. Unlike the OP.... Fair enough. I commented on nothing but art direction, and I'm allowed my opinions. I'm tired of this "if you dont like it, then get out!" callous disregard for dissention. It's laughable at best, and pitiable at worst. It's 100% fine to disagree on a games direction. But limitations should be set. You apparently know you will not play the game. Rushing in with insults is probably not the best idea in presenting your arguments. Hard on for CO? I post over the last few weeks in the CO forums - a game coming out in a few weeks - and more relevant than most other forums, and all of a sudden, I have a hard on ... you're clearly not as intelligent as you'd like this forum to believe. HAH, as if caring about my internet status is a big deal. Falling back on ad hominem and grasping at straws only devalidates any attempt you were making to sound sophisticated and articulate. I made no comments about CO. YOU did. I made no comparison, YOU did. Indeed I did. And to quote you in a CO forum "Seriously, stop posting. You're spitting nothing but bile and hatred. It's clear you have an agenda yourself. But for the life of me, I can't understand why you give a fat flying f*ck about other people playing a game you supposedly don't like or care about." Hypocrite much? I'm not allowed to have an opinion on one game without you comparing it to a POST history in a completely unrelated forum and genre? GG, but you fail at the internet. lol... You need to repeat forum wars 101, because you obviously haven't learned a thing. We are at war? I will be playing SWTOR. I will enjoy it. I will not like the art style, and I will not like the fact that its a single player theme-park game. You can't change my mind with snarky comments and witty internet banter and your attempts to PWN me on a message board. Lies and slander. And pwn you on a message board? Hardly. Anyways, Cool story bro.
The art direction is childish for a game targetting a much more mature audience. I was always under the impression Star Wars was targetting children/young adults. It's trite and demeaning to push "stylized realism" what I consider to be a slightly more sophisticated audience than, say... WoW's. So you often punish yourself by playing a game you think looks ugly? But you keep blowing your horn and hope it drowns out logic and reason. k.
ok, im not a fanboy, i am looking forward to this game however, what i want to know is why so much criticism of the games art style, looks good to me, we are talking about a FUCKING VIDEO GAME here people, not some sort of attempt at creating a photorealistic version of the star wars universe. Im starting to think people will only be happy when they can recreate the pimples on their own asses on thier avatar. if you dont like the direction this game is taking, stop bitching, and find something else to spend your time on, pretty simple concept.
Physician, heal thyself.
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
ok, im not a fanboy, i am looking forward to this game however, what i want to know is why so much criticism of the games art style, looks good to me, we are talking about a FUCKING VIDEO GAME here people, not some sort of attempt at creating a photorealistic version of the star wars universe. Im starting to think people will only be happy when they can recreate the pimples on their own asses on thier avatar. if you dont like the direction this game is taking, stop bitching, and find something else to spend your time on, pretty simple concept.
Physician, heal thyself.
hehe, take note that i registered in 05, and have posted a whopping 82 times..... i took my own advice long ago, just trying to spread the enlightenment a little lol.
The people who have shit to complain about should really take their complaints to the official forums. Problem is they can't handle the heat of people telling them to just GTFO there so they piss and moan here instead. xD
Well, if you were honest, you'd have to admit that you're one of the worst ones when it comes to possing and moaning whenever anybody says anything about this game that isn't fanboi positive. xD.
I don't get why you would waste your time spamming BS about a game you don't seem to like and will never play. You don't see me in the Darkfall spamming about how fail I think that game is because it would be considered trolling, and I really don't give enough of a shit about DF to even waste my life talking about it.
It's one thing to come in and say, "I don't like this game, I don't think I will play it, it does not look fun to me". It's another thing to spend day in day out hitting refresh millions of times waiting for a reply from other posters in a forum for a game you don't like . It makes you look even more pathetic then the people you call fanbois. Kinda funny, I usually try to avoid fanbois for games I hate, where you seem to enjoy hanging with them. Maybe you're just a fanboi in denial.
Well said. I couldn't agree more. However, you might have taken a wrong turn and accidently came to MMORPG.com. This is not a forum that is friendly to...well almost any game. It's the most vile negative cesspool of overgrown mama's boy cry babies who really actually hate the genre of MMO's. That's just my opinion. It is entertaining though, I'll give you that!
"MMORPG.com - you will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
Well said. I couldn't agree more. However, you might have taken a wrong turn and accidently came to MMORPG.com. This is not a forum that is friendly to...well almost any game. It's the most vile negative cesspool of overgrown mama's boy cry babies who really actually hate the genre of MMO's. That's just my opinion. It is entertaining though, I'll give you that!
"MMORPG.com - you will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
We must be cautious."
So true. I thought of that when I said it but I fail...Nice!!!
After the latest videos, SW ToR looks like a singleplayer game with multiplayer capability... nothing like an mmo. Sure it has complete voice acting. Sure the combat has new features like smugglers cover (looks pretty damn good too) and is action paced, but there is simply so much other stuff wrong: 1. Gameplay is god. I don't want to play a linear game. Period. This game has some branching out, like one branch of a tree, choose to go right or left, but all that happens is that you are herded through pre-planned content. Gameplay shouldn't be that one branch and its small sub-branches. Gameplay should be the whole tree or rather the ability to plant a tree yourself. 2. Avatars look like crap. The voice acting seem phoney when the faces look so dull and plain. 3. No space. No player houses. No skill system. 4. "Iconic" classes looks boring to me. "Sith Warrior". Where is the nuances in that. Hell I would play Champions Online any day over that. For a class game I would rather play AoC. At least the classes is somewhat original there. There is NOTHING interesting to me in those "iconic" classes. It seems to me that each Sith Warrior or Bounty Hunter will be the same with slight variations. 5. Story in an mmo shouldn't be what a company like Bioware says it is. If they spent all this money on creating a DYNAMIC game with the ability to create your own stories, then I would be game. 6. Storm troopers with swords fighting jedis with light sabers?? Eeerrh? Say again? 7. This game will be overblown with jedis running around. Luckily we won't see too many as the game isn't even massive, but it will be enough to take the rarity out of them. Sure the Old Republic period has more, but still. It is gonna every kid with a light saber and the specialness of the jedi is gone. 8. Freedom of play is not to sit and click on a preset dialogue wheel and run around in a mouse maze chasing a Bioware "story". I want to make my own story. And their world like Hutta just reeks of invisible walls...
In my opinion (!) this game will be a great game for some, fun for a lot, but a complete utter fail as an mmo. All things haven't been revealed, but we don't need a crystal ball to see that this game caters specifically for a certain crowd and that it is more about selling X million boxes and not about longevity. So far Bioware has revealed nothing that takes it beyond a singleplayer game with some multiplayer capability. Sure it could come, but the videos have already shown that the gameplay is locked down into some specific modes.
I'm sure others will point this out too but you need to maybe rad the backstory before whining about a game you obviously know next to nothing about. I'm referring to your point #7. This is set in the OLD republic. Meaning jedi aren't rare back then so duh, you should see a lot of jedi running around, get over it, this isn't swg based after episode 4.
I personally believe that this will be one of the best MMORPG's ever. I have played almost every game on this site over the years including some that have died over the years.
I am really looking forward to this game because I have been a big fan of both Kotor's and all MMO's ever since I got into them. It makes me upset to read these crybabies' posts about how there should be only a few Jedi when this takes place in a time where there were thousands of Sith VS thousands of Jedi.
This site was a good site to discuss MMO's on when I joined but now it is filled with crybabies and shit for brains idiots that start bashing an MMO before they know anything about it.
Thank you for your time and I hope this helped open some of your eyes,
I understand if you are not sure on things, since limited info has been release, but why do people HATE games that are not released?
I mean, why do they create threads on any game, before they have tried it, before it has hit even closed or open beta, screaming it is a terrible game? I am not talking about just this game, I mean any game. I could see Aion being the exception since it has already released elsewhere, and there has been quite a few beta events.
It's great that you have an opinion. We all do. But when you yell and scream saying your opinion is fact, with no proof to show otherwise, well, that makes you look pretty silly.
Some people are not going to like the graphics. That's fine. Some people hate Aions graphics, and while they may hate them, they have to admit they are done well. When the BH steps outside in Nar Shadaa, the area he is in looks great. Detailed, depth, whateva.
Anyways. You said this is a forum for discussion, yet you are only blasting a game you have not tried, that is not even in beta, and that you know very little information on. What exactly did you want to discuss, other than to start a flame thread. At least in another thread, the guy said "Choice may not matter all that much". At least it was something to discuss, and not just LOL THIS GAME SUX CUZ I SAID...
From what I`ve seen so far it does look like a mediocre single player game and doesn`t have Star Wars feel to it at all.
Nothing screams more "single player" then voice-overs.
It`s an immersion tool for those types of games but can also backfire if it`s done badly.
It already backfired for me because when I hear that "macho" overacted deep voice of the main "hero"in the last trailer/video it annoys me to no end.
I can see how this game will appeal to KOTOR fans, that`s a no-brainer.
But when we talk MMOs and when you look at the statistics for the last 10 years one thing stands out:
When it comes to Space MMOs only sandbox type of games have the "staying power" to keep players interested and willing to drop 15 bucks a month for it.
Space PVE gets old and boring really fast and I doubt any company can keep delivering content at a pace that is satisfying for the gamers. It`s just not possible.
The old trick of making it tedious grind in order to keep players in game is also a washed out has-been system that doesn`t fly anymore for anyone but the total MMO noob that never went through that type of gaming before.
Nowadays is really only the PVP and the sandbox aspect of a game that keeps vet MMO'ers playing, and so far I don`t see SWTOR having any of it.
I care about your gaming 'problems' and teenage anxieties, just not today.
Speculation blows, and so does 13 more months of it.
Pray for beta invites or at least leaked videos within the next few months, and take every official video you see with a grain of salt. Those are put out with marketing in mind, and historically are a lot better than the actual game is on launch (which actually shoots a lot of these mmo's resub rates in the foot with the hype they create).
This was a troll post or just a horrible view of what is happening with our youth... anyway.... lets reply *sight*
Originally posted by Draccan
After the latest videos, SW ToR looks like a singleplayer game with multiplayer capability... nothing like an mmo.
So, you saw videos that demonstrate a small part of the game. That shows some of the features. A game that is on alpha status. You clearly didnt read the interviews that discuss other features. And you assume you know everything (or close to it) about the game. Wonderful. Keep the good job. By the way, could you email me the next lottery numbers? Okthxbye.
ps.: some features commented on interviews -> end-game raiding, crafting, instances with groups, probably a future expansion with space play.
Sure it has complete voice acting. Sure the combat has new features like smugglers cover (looks pretty damn good too) and is action paced, but there is simply so much other stuff wrong:
The video was focusing on some cool new stuff (innovations for a MMORPG). Read reviews from AoC. You will find about how people think about full voice acting.
1. Gameplay is god. I don't want to play a linear game. Period. This game has some branching out, like one branch of a tree, choose to go right or left, but all that happens is that you are herded through pre-planned content. Gameplay shouldn't be that one branch and its small sub-branches. Gameplay should be the whole tree or rather the ability to plant a tree yourself.
This game is story driven. If you dont like it (and that means you dont like RPG games either) just dont play it. Clearly there are enough people in the world that do like it. Go play KOTOR 1 and 2, Gothic (1, 2, 3), Mass Effect, Ultima Serie, .... if those games are a no-go for you, look elsewhere. Nothing wrong with that. But just cause I dont like something, I dont go around forum that talk about that thing.. that intends to be a place for people that like that thing to form a community.. and bash it... thats soo silly ....
2. Avatars look like crap. The voice acting seem phoney when the faces look so dull and plain.
Alpha. The game is on Alpha. And you say you dont like the graphics. Two things wrong about that really:
a) the retail version will most likely look more polished
b) clearly not everyone will like the art-style that devs picked for the game. I am not sure which planet you live on, by here on Earth people are allowed to think for themselves and to like or deslike things. Nothing you do will please everyone. Game designers try to please enough people to make theirs games a sucess. Get it?
3. No space. No player houses. No skill system.
No space. Probably not. Not a retail release. But the nice thing about MMORPG (did you ever play one?) is that they keep growing after release. WOW. Crazy concept right?
No player houses. Too early to know it, aint? Maybe they wont release it with the retail version, but you will be able to buy a house/ap after a expansion (paid or not, we dont know about the $$$ system). Maybe you will be able to buy a ship and make it your house (KOTOR style). Who knows! Devs do.. do you? No, so stop pretending you do. Thats soo silly....
4. "Iconic" classes (...) each Sith Warrior or Bounty Hunter will be the same with slight variations.
Did you actualy watch the videos? They talked about how a sith warrior can either focus on DPS or tanking as he level up. We dont know about specifics, but that alone destroys your argument. Did you ever play a MMORPG?
5. Story in an mmo shouldn't be what a company like Bioware says it is. If they spent all this money on creating a DYNAMIC game with the ability to create your own stories, then I would be game.
So you are saying that you want a sandbox game. Okie. Time to pack your things and try another forum. Check Mortal Online, Fallen EArth, .... this is not what you are looking for *wave hand*. Move along.
6. Storm troopers with swords fighting jedis with light sabers?? Eeerrh? Say again?
Did you ever play KOTOR? KOTOR 2? Do you know anything about Starwars lore? Do you know anything about the time period the game will be played? Clearly not. Go do your homework and come back later. By the way, the guys with swords... werent they droids? Advanced combat droids of the Republic or something? Better check the video again.
ps.: anyone that played any KOTOR is familiar with vibro-swords and the like, and how they are effective against lightsabers.
7. This game will be overblown with jedis running around. Luckily we won't see too many as the game isn't even massive, but it will be enough to take the rarity out of them. Sure the Old Republic period has more, but still. It is gonna every kid with a light saber and the specialness of the jedi is gone.
I would like to know where did you buy your crystal ball, I could use one too. See the future is such a cool skill!
Many people will play Jedi? Many people will also play other classes (some as alts, some as main).
This is about Starwars and times of war. Every class will be heroic. Anyone that plays a Jedi/Sith thinking they are gods (that is... anyone that knows nothing about starwars) will find out soon enough the truth.
8. Freedom of play is not to sit and click on a preset dialogue wheel and run around in a mouse maze chasing a Bioware "story". I want to make my own story. And their world like Hutta just reeks of invisible walls...
Again. You dont want a RPG with a story. Fine. Go play a sandbox. This is not the game you are looking for... Move along.
In my opinion (...) All things haven't been revealed, but we don't need a crystal ball (...)
Funny. You seen to do the opposite on your entire post. Duh!
So far Bioware has revealed nothing that takes it beyond a singleplayer game with some multiplayer capability. Sure it could come, but the videos have already shown that the gameplay is locked down into some specific modes.
Read my early replies. You fail at the last comment. Oh and the videos show some types of gameplay presented in the game. Crystal ball? Doh!
Next time just save some time. Why bother talk about something you know almost nothing just cause they are not doing what you want (Sandbox)? Do you really think they will change the entire game goal just cause you /rant you want SWG 2? LoL
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While people like yourself are constanly rubbing that crystal ball for answers to doom and gloom.
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Not only do they fill in gaps in information about the game by pulling random dreams from between the giant fleshy crack of their ass, but they post wall after wall of text expecting any detracters to take the time to read each and every syllable.
This is a single player game, with an extremely odd art direction. Period. Quit making "this is alpha" excuses. The art direction of a game doesnt change dramatically from alpha to beta - so that arguement is sheer lunacy. You either like the art style of the characters (don't pretend you do), or you don't.
BioWare has also already stated, time and time again, that they are focusing on single player aspects of the game, with only paltry "and we'll have all that other mmo stuff as well" in regards to every other aspect of ... say... WHAT MAKES AN MMO.
The game will be fun, but it's not going to be an mmo, and it's not going to have a solid retention of player base.
Figure I would point out how wrong you are
WoW alpha
Anyways
Figure I would point out how wrong you are
WoW alpha
Anyways
Wow, really? you're going to go there with pre-alpha blizzard screenshots and call it a publication worthy alpha image? GG sir, you are an amazingly talented fanboi. I salute you.
They've already NAMED their art style in every SWTOR video (StyLiZeD ReALiSm). Are you telling me they're going to come up with a unique look and moniker for each stage?
What you posted were very VERY early TEST renders Blizzard did. Not play test worth alpha media. Hence the reason those were never seen in wide release.
But you keep thinking the cartoony SWTOR graphics and god-awful animations are going to change. Be sure and tell all your friends who question it the same thing too. I can't wait for release day when ..*gasp* they're the same.
There's a reason almost no one ever saw the image you posted above (I, in fact, have). Because Blizzard knew that wasn't their final style or design. BioWare is spamming the interwebz, hyping the game, with a final art direction. It makes literally NO sense for them to send forth images and videos filled with something they know will be changing.
Are you really trying to tell me BioWare is releasing ALL of these videos with the intent of dramatically changing what people are now used to seeing?
You're dillusional.
The OP is right. This is not some revolutionary MMO. It's mostly just looks like a multiplayer RPG.
Guess what? The MMO features of the game are not the reason to play it, it's the story.
I've played most of the Bioware games, and I've loved the stories of each one. I'm confident they can pull off a great RPG that I will enjoy. Fanboys need to give up the fact that this is going to be an MMO that is going to be everything to eveyrone.
i don't mind a good story but it keeps me wondering what they are going to offer me once i have completed that story? what is the endgame?
so far i have seen little to no info on it and tbh the way they keep ranting on about the story, i think it will be utter crap at launch. In the end it's fresh content that keeps me playing, the story will no doubt keep me going for a few months but after that i need something fun that i can do every once in a while to keep me going (dungeons, raids, maybe some PvP).
MMO wish list:
-Changeable worlds
-Solid non level based game
-Sharks with lasers attached to their heads
Where you're completely wrong is that I do not have an agenda. Even if I did, the mmorpg.com forums would not be my choice to push one. Unlike the OP....
I commented on nothing but art direction, and I'm allowed my opinions. I'm tired of this "if you dont like it, then get out!" callous disregard for dissention. It's laughable at best, and pitiable at worst.
Hard on for CO? I post over the last few weeks in the CO forums - a game coming out in a few weeks - and more relevant than most other forums, and all of a sudden, I have a hard on ... you're clearly not as intelligent as you'd like this forum to believe. Falling back on ad hominem and grasping at straws only devalidates any attempt you were making to sound sophisticated and articulate. I made no comments about CO. YOU did. I made no comparison, YOU did. I'm not allowed to have an opinion on one game without you comparing it to a POST history in a completely unrelated forum and genre? GG, but you fail at the internet.
You need to repeat forum wars 101, because you obviously haven't learned a thing.
I will be playing SWTOR. I will enjoy it. I will not like the art style, and I will not like the fact that its a single player theme-park game. You can't change my mind with snarky comments and witty internet banter and your attempts to PWN me on a message board.
The art direction is childish for a game targetting a much more mature audience. It's trite and demeaning to push "stylized realism" what I consider to be a slightly more sophisticated audience than, say... WoW's.
But you keep blowing your horn and hope it drowns out logic and reason.
ok, im not a fanboy, i am looking forward to this game however, what i want to know is why so much criticism of the games art style, looks good to me, we are talking about a FUCKING VIDEO GAME here people, not some sort of attempt at creating a photorealistic version of the star wars universe.
Im starting to think people will only be happy when they can recreate the pimples on their own asses on thier avatar.
if you dont like the direction this game is taking, stop bitching, and find something else to spend your time on, pretty simple concept.
Physician, heal thyself.
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
Physician, heal thyself.
hehe, take note that i registered in 05, and have posted a whopping 82 times..... i took my own advice long ago, just trying to spread the enlightenment a little lol.
Well, if you were honest, you'd have to admit that you're one of the worst ones when it comes to possing and moaning whenever anybody says anything about this game that isn't fanboi positive. xD.
I don't get why you would waste your time spamming BS about a game you don't seem to like and will never play. You don't see me in the Darkfall spamming about how fail I think that game is because it would be considered trolling, and I really don't give enough of a shit about DF to even waste my life talking about it.
It's one thing to come in and say, "I don't like this game, I don't think I will play it, it does not look fun to me". It's another thing to spend day in day out hitting refresh millions of times waiting for a reply from other posters in a forum for a game you don't like . It makes you look even more pathetic then the people you call fanbois. Kinda funny, I usually try to avoid fanbois for games I hate, where you seem to enjoy hanging with them. Maybe you're just a fanboi in denial.
Well said. I couldn't agree more. However, you might have taken a wrong turn and accidently came to MMORPG.com. This is not a forum that is friendly to...well almost any game. It's the most vile negative cesspool of overgrown mama's boy cry babies who really actually hate the genre of MMO's. That's just my opinion. It is entertaining though, I'll give you that!
"MMORPG.com - you will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
We must be cautious."
Well said. I couldn't agree more. However, you might have taken a wrong turn and accidently came to MMORPG.com. This is not a forum that is friendly to...well almost any game. It's the most vile negative cesspool of overgrown mama's boy cry babies who really actually hate the genre of MMO's. That's just my opinion. It is entertaining though, I'll give you that!
"MMORPG.com - you will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
We must be cautious."
So true. I thought of that when I said it but I fail...Nice!!!
One of the very first concept arts for the original Star Wars movie, "A New Hope".
I'm sure others will point this out too but you need to maybe rad the backstory before whining about a game you obviously know next to nothing about. I'm referring to your point #7. This is set in the OLD republic. Meaning jedi aren't rare back then so duh, you should see a lot of jedi running around, get over it, this isn't swg based after episode 4.
I personally believe that this will be one of the best MMORPG's ever. I have played almost every game on this site over the years including some that have died over the years.
I am really looking forward to this game because I have been a big fan of both Kotor's and all MMO's ever since I got into them. It makes me upset to read these crybabies' posts about how there should be only a few Jedi when this takes place in a time where there were thousands of Sith VS thousands of Jedi.
This site was a good site to discuss MMO's on when I joined but now it is filled with crybabies and shit for brains idiots that start bashing an MMO before they know anything about it.
Thank you for your time and I hope this helped open some of your eyes,
Demon_ray
YES!
This made me LMAO!
It sounds like you are saying, "Why should a KOTOR MMO be similar to a KOTOR game?"
Do you have any idea how dumb that sounded?
What did you expect from an MMO called "Star Wars: The Old Republic"?
I understand if you are not sure on things, since limited info has been release, but why do people HATE games that are not released?
I mean, why do they create threads on any game, before they have tried it, before it has hit even closed or open beta, screaming it is a terrible game? I am not talking about just this game, I mean any game. I could see Aion being the exception since it has already released elsewhere, and there has been quite a few beta events.
It's great that you have an opinion. We all do. But when you yell and scream saying your opinion is fact, with no proof to show otherwise, well, that makes you look pretty silly.
Some people are not going to like the graphics. That's fine. Some people hate Aions graphics, and while they may hate them, they have to admit they are done well. When the BH steps outside in Nar Shadaa, the area he is in looks great. Detailed, depth, whateva.
Anyways. You said this is a forum for discussion, yet you are only blasting a game you have not tried, that is not even in beta, and that you know very little information on. What exactly did you want to discuss, other than to start a flame thread. At least in another thread, the guy said "Choice may not matter all that much". At least it was something to discuss, and not just LOL THIS GAME SUX CUZ I SAID...
SW ToR - state of the game
Unreleased and in Alpha.
I must agree with OP on most of his points.
From what I`ve seen so far it does look like a mediocre single player game and doesn`t have Star Wars feel to it at all.
Nothing screams more "single player" then voice-overs.
It`s an immersion tool for those types of games but can also backfire if it`s done badly.
It already backfired for me because when I hear that "macho" overacted deep voice of the main "hero"in the last trailer/video it annoys me to no end.
I can see how this game will appeal to KOTOR fans, that`s a no-brainer.
But when we talk MMOs and when you look at the statistics for the last 10 years one thing stands out:
When it comes to Space MMOs only sandbox type of games have the "staying power" to keep players interested and willing to drop 15 bucks a month for it.
Space PVE gets old and boring really fast and I doubt any company can keep delivering content at a pace that is satisfying for the gamers. It`s just not possible.
The old trick of making it tedious grind in order to keep players in game is also a washed out has-been system that doesn`t fly anymore for anyone but the total MMO noob that never went through that type of gaming before.
Nowadays is really only the PVP and the sandbox aspect of a game that keeps vet MMO'ers playing, and so far I don`t see SWTOR having any of it.
I care about your gaming 'problems' and teenage anxieties, just not today.
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Speculation blows, and so does 13 more months of it.
Pray for beta invites or at least leaked videos within the next few months, and take every official video you see with a grain of salt. Those are put out with marketing in mind, and historically are a lot better than the actual game is on launch (which actually shoots a lot of these mmo's resub rates in the foot with the hype they create).
So, you saw videos that demonstrate a small part of the game. That shows some of the features. A game that is on alpha status. You clearly didnt read the interviews that discuss other features. And you assume you know everything (or close to it) about the game. Wonderful. Keep the good job. By the way, could you email me the next lottery numbers? Okthxbye.
ps.: some features commented on interviews -> end-game raiding, crafting, instances with groups, probably a future expansion with space play.
The video was focusing on some cool new stuff (innovations for a MMORPG). Read reviews from AoC. You will find about how people think about full voice acting.
This game is story driven. If you dont like it (and that means you dont like RPG games either) just dont play it. Clearly there are enough people in the world that do like it. Go play KOTOR 1 and 2, Gothic (1, 2, 3), Mass Effect, Ultima Serie, .... if those games are a no-go for you, look elsewhere. Nothing wrong with that. But just cause I dont like something, I dont go around forum that talk about that thing.. that intends to be a place for people that like that thing to form a community.. and bash it... thats soo silly ....
Alpha. The game is on Alpha. And you say you dont like the graphics. Two things wrong about that really:
a) the retail version will most likely look more polished
b) clearly not everyone will like the art-style that devs picked for the game. I am not sure which planet you live on, by here on Earth people are allowed to think for themselves and to like or deslike things. Nothing you do will please everyone. Game designers try to please enough people to make theirs games a sucess. Get it?
No space. Probably not. Not a retail release. But the nice thing about MMORPG (did you ever play one?) is that they keep growing after release. WOW. Crazy concept right?No player houses. Too early to know it, aint? Maybe they wont release it with the retail version, but you will be able to buy a house/ap after a expansion (paid or not, we dont know about the $$$ system). Maybe you will be able to buy a ship and make it your house (KOTOR style). Who knows! Devs do.. do you? No, so stop pretending you do. Thats soo silly....
Did you actualy watch the videos? They talked about how a sith warrior can either focus on DPS or tanking as he level up. We dont know about specifics, but that alone destroys your argument. Did you ever play a MMORPG?
So you are saying that you want a sandbox game. Okie. Time to pack your things and try another forum. Check Mortal Online, Fallen EArth, .... this is not what you are looking for *wave hand*. Move along.Did you ever play KOTOR? KOTOR 2? Do you know anything about Starwars lore? Do you know anything about the time period the game will be played? Clearly not. Go do your homework and come back later. By the way, the guys with swords... werent they droids? Advanced combat droids of the Republic or something? Better check the video again.
ps.: anyone that played any KOTOR is familiar with vibro-swords and the like, and how they are effective against lightsabers.
I would like to know where did you buy your crystal ball, I could use one too. See the future is such a cool skill!
Many people will play Jedi? Many people will also play other classes (some as alts, some as main).
This is about Starwars and times of war. Every class will be heroic. Anyone that plays a Jedi/Sith thinking they are gods (that is... anyone that knows nothing about starwars) will find out soon enough the truth.
Again. You dont want a RPG with a story. Fine. Go play a sandbox. This is not the game you are looking for... Move along.
Funny. You seen to do the opposite on your entire post. Duh!Read my early replies. You fail at the last comment. Oh and the videos show some types of gameplay presented in the game. Crystal ball? Doh!
Next time just save some time. Why bother talk about something you know almost nothing just cause they are not doing what you want (Sandbox)? Do you really think they will change the entire game goal just cause you /rant you want SWG 2? LoL
awesome!!