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If you expect a clean and perfect launch..

trillahtrillah Member CommonPosts: 158

Stop buying mmo's the day they come out and wait a few months, these issues of server lag, Crashes , disconnection and so on have been brought up for every freaking launch to date and by now you should know what to expect.

Dont tell me about this '' oh its 2009 they should know by now'' Do you think they do this on purpose ? Its clear that if they could launch without any itch they would , no? Stop being fucking jerks and while you cant play , do something else, its not a life and death situation.

The situation is a lot better then it used to be, one of the great game, daoc lauched with no content above 40...0 CONTENT!!! World of warcraft had a terrible launch, far more worse than this one and its from a giant studio. Star Wars galaxies, You couldnt even log for the 24 first hours!

So please, im begging you, stop with these thread, they are trying their best to make it work.

 

Ps: Sorry for my bad grammar and sentences, english is not my primary language.

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  • ABRaquelABRaquel Member UncommonPosts: 541

    What about those MMOs that had almost flawless launches? For example LotRO.

  • trillahtrillah Member CommonPosts: 158

    Im glad for them! really lol ! but remember , they used DDO to test.... enough said

  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    Originally posted by ABRaquel


    What about those MMOs that had almost flawless launches? For example LotRO.

     

    In most cases it boils down to the funds available. FE can't really be compared in that regard, this game has been in development for a long long time. It's in the hands of an indie team as well, you can't expect them to be in competition with someone like turbine it just isn't possible or plausible.

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  • DoomReaperDoomReaper Member UncommonPosts: 143

    Perfection is hard to come by, but "relatively smooth" would suit me fine. A few MMOs I've been in which had relatively smooth launches are The Realm Online, Meridian 59 and Neocron. There are others I haven't played but friends have reported fairly smooth launches. Unfortunately the number of titles released that are miles away from being ready seriously outnumber the relatively smooth launches.

    I don't mind the smooth(ish) launches, I know full well that asking for a perfect launch is unrealistic!

  • Konner920Konner920 Member UncommonPosts: 295

    I plan on supporting the game and buying it soon. I tested the beta. I liked it. Not all MMOs have perfect launches.

  • ABRaquelABRaquel Member UncommonPosts: 541
    Originally posted by Malickie

    Originally posted by ABRaquel


    What about those MMOs that had almost flawless launches? For example LotRO.

     

    In most cases it boils down to the funds available. FE can't really be compared in that regard, this game has been in development for a long long time. It's in the hands of an indie team as well, you can't expect them to be in competition with someone like turbine it just isn't possible or plausible.



     

    I completely agree. My comment wasn't directed at FE per se but how the OP painted a broad stroke regarding all MMOs.

     

  • trillahtrillah Member CommonPosts: 158

    Might also be depending on the number of people in these launch, the realm online...meridian 59  ...neocron...  compare to FE?

    I'm not trying to defend them, im just trying to be objective.

  • crazyivencrazyiven Member Posts: 142

    Why do people complain about complainers? I think its wrong to not be able to log in and not play. In game issues bahh they will get worked out. This stuff should have been worked out before it went live. Don't care to much about this game or that game, those were then and this is now.  Hardware has advance a lot from them days.... hummmm maybe that is where eves old equipment went.......

  • majimaji Member UncommonPosts: 2,091

    My opinions on this:

    • yes, people have all right to complain when they buy a game and it doesn't work well. They paid, so they should be able to play it without problems. If they can't they have all reason to complain, no matter if it helps or not.
    • not only mmorpgs but games are in general released too early. each mmorpg is always having bugs. none is ever bug-free. they are too complex for that. however, the younger an mmorpg is, the more likely it is to have really severe bugs. that is what everyone should realize
    • the launch of FE seems average to me. the game is mostly stable and playable. the only big problem is for me the latency in cities with many people. this is highly annoying, but I hopeit is fixed soon
    • in the end, how much fun you have only depends on yourself. don't let others influence you too much. the guy next to you might scream in digust when he had to relog because of a bug, but that doesn't mean you have to do the same. be relaxed. realize that the devs don't like the bugs either, and probably do their best to fix them. play it and decide for yourself it the time you spend that way is in the end rewarding or not
    • and, again, keep complaining if it makes you feel better. :) try to avoid insults, foam around your mouth or smashing your keyboard, except when it makes you feel that much better that it's worth it. don't forget to consider though that most of the stuff you say/write about a game, no matter if ingame or on some website or something, is ready by people and has an impact on them and their expectations. each person you scare away with your temper and lack of self-control might be exactly one of those person, who might be fun to play the game with. :)

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  • mxmissilemxmissile Member UncommonPosts: 275
    Originally posted by trillah


    Stop buying mmo's the day they come out and wait a few months, these issues of server lag, Crashes , disconnection and so on have been brought up for every freaking launch to date and by now you should know what to expect.
    Dont tell me about this '' oh its 2009 they should know by now'' Do you think they do this on purpose ? Its clear that if they could launch without any itch they would , no? Stop being fucking jerks and while you cant play , do something else, its not a life and death situation.
    The situation is a lot better then it used to be, one of the great game, daoc lauched with no content above 40...0 CONTENT!!! World of warcraft had a terrible launch, far more worse than this one and its from a giant studio. Star Wars galaxies, You couldnt even log for the 24 first hours!
    So please, im begging you, stop with these thread, they are trying their best to make it work.
     
    Ps: Sorry for my bad grammar and sentences, english is not my primary language.

     

    wow, payroll much?

  • LethalBurstLethalBurst Member UncommonPosts: 367
    Originally posted by mxmissile

    Originally posted by trillah


    Stop buying mmo's the day they come out and wait a few months, these issues of server lag, Crashes , disconnection and so on have been brought up for every freaking launch to date and by now you should know what to expect.
    Dont tell me about this '' oh its 2009 they should know by now'' Do you think they do this on purpose ? Its clear that if they could launch without any itch they would , no? Stop being fucking jerks and while you cant play , do something else, its not a life and death situation.
    The situation is a lot better then it used to be, one of the great game, daoc lauched with no content above 40...0 CONTENT!!! World of warcraft had a terrible launch, far more worse than this one and its from a giant studio. Star Wars galaxies, You couldnt even log for the 24 first hours!
    So please, im begging you, stop with these thread, they are trying their best to make it work.
     
    Ps: Sorry for my bad grammar and sentences, english is not my primary language.

     

    wow, payroll much?

     

    What he said is absolute truth and reason.

  • VultureSkullVultureSkull Member UncommonPosts: 1,774

    If you expect a clean and perfect launch.. then you live in cloud cuckoo land.

     

    Oh and by the way i gained access to the FE game world far quicker then i did for LOTROL, for those who think LOTROL had a flawless launch, it took me over 2 hours to register my account, so not so perfect i am afraid.

     

    Most people know that no mmo launches perfectly, does that dont know this are more or less "noob wow only players", who ultimately will find FE to hard anyways and will leave the game anyway, so there is not much to worry about really.

  • SomeOldBlokeSomeOldBloke Member UncommonPosts: 2,167

    I don't know of any software, in any industry - not just gaming, that works perfectly out of the box. I work in telecoms and I guarantee you that when the equipment vendor launches new equipment or has a major software upgrade it never works the same in a live network as it does in the lab. There always crashes rollbacks and multiple patches before they get it right, if they ever do.

  • ed_angered_anger Member UncommonPosts: 60
    Originally posted by trillah


    Stop buying mmo's the day they come out and wait a few months, these issues of server lag, Crashes , disconnection and so on have been brought up for every freaking launch to date and by now you should know what to expect.
    So please, im begging you, stop with these thread, they are trying their best to make it work.

     

    mmo players include some of the most self-entitled whiners on the planet, so good luck with getting them to stop.

    this was the first weekend after release of an mmo by a small developer. i'd expect some growing pains. if it's still that bad in a couple months, whine then...

  • SuperqwertySuperqwerty Member Posts: 54
    Originally posted by LethalBurst

    Originally posted by mxmissile

    Originally posted by trillah


    Stop buying mmo's the day they come out and wait a few months, these issues of server lag, Crashes , disconnection and so on have been brought up for every freaking launch to date and by now you should know what to expect.
    Dont tell me about this '' oh its 2009 they should know by now'' Do you think they do this on purpose ? Its clear that if they could launch without any itch they would , no? Stop being fucking jerks and while you cant play , do something else, its not a life and death situation.
    The situation is a lot better then it used to be, one of the great game, daoc lauched with no content above 40...0 CONTENT!!! World of warcraft had a terrible launch, far more worse than this one and its from a giant studio. Star Wars galaxies, You couldnt even log for the 24 first hours!
    So please, im begging you, stop with these thread, they are trying their best to make it work.
     
    Ps: Sorry for my bad grammar and sentences, english is not my primary language.

     

    wow, payroll much?

     

    What he said is absolute truth and reason.

     

    We're complaining jerks because we've paid so much money to play the game in the first place. If studios which to test out the product on retail they should atleast give everyone a free trial period with some forewarning. Don't charge everyone £30 or $50 in the first instance and expect understanding when it goes wrong.

    They don't get any sympathy from me and all their players deserve an apology and recompense.

    By the way. I think it will end up being a good game, but I stand by what I've said before about this recent launch.

  • VultureSkullVultureSkull Member UncommonPosts: 1,774
    Originally posted by Superqwerty


     
    We're complaining jerks because we've paid so much money to play the game in the first place. If studios which to test out the product on retail they should atleast give everyone a free trial period with some forewarning. Don't charge everyone £30 or $50 in the first instance and expect understanding when it goes wrong.


    They don't get any sympathy from me and all their players deserve an apology and recompense.


    By the way. I think it will end up being a good game, but I stand by what I've said before about this recent launch.



     

    You do get a free month in all MMOs. What you think that is for?

    And £30 for a game you will play for a year, if you like it, is nothing, 8pence a day for a year. Cheaper than a night out.

    It is not as if the companies that produce these games are rolling in our money is it?

    You stand by what you say, oh yeah, about this launch and all previous launches and all the ones to come, you will soon get tired and sit down, as it will not change soon my friend.

    Point being that no MMO will release flawlessly, if it does then it is definitely not the norm. Most producers are not even thinking about the release, they are thinking about making their game survive in the first year. Look at WAR,  on real shakey ground at the moment and you we all know what happened to Tabula....

    Refusing to excpet that MMOs  will release buggy and incomplete is like hitting your head against a brick wall and it will not change in the near future i am afraid, just accept it, if you dont like it dont buy brand new MMOs, rather simple really.

     

     

     

  • brostynbrostyn Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 3,092

    AC2, LOTRO, WAR, EQ2 and WOW were all great launches. I was there for all of them. I might even be missing a few games that had launches that went just as well. Its idiotc to try to justify poor launches.

     

    I know some trolls try to claim WOW didn't have a smooth launch, but you could play. The only problems I had were the loot lag, and had to restart on a different server a couple of times due to queues. Didn't stop me from playing, though.

  • ed_angered_anger Member UncommonPosts: 60

    try Aion with its 7 hour log in queues

    and that's by a major developer, with a game that's been out in Asia for a year already ;)

  • brostynbrostyn Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 3,092
    Originally posted by cludinsk


    try Aion with its 7 hour log in queues
    and that's by a major developer, with a game that's been out in Asia for a year already ;)

    Exactly why I won't be trying it. If they can't even get that corrected in the week they've been launched I doubt very much they will be able to provide a game that will be worth playing long term.

     

    Maybe its because I came from SOE,(EQ) but I refuse to play any MMOs who don't put players first. SOE used to shit on its customers, and took us for granted. They are no longer the king, 2nd or even 3rd place. They only have themselves to blame not WoW. They drove us away by not caring if we were happy. My point being if you operate any business based off customers you must make the customer happy. Its not an option. Anything less, and you fail. Just look at all the MMOs that have had poor launches. They are doing horrible. I don't think that is a coincidence.

  • FolbyOrbFolbyOrb Member UncommonPosts: 357
    Originally posted by trillah


    Stop buying mmo's the day they come out and wait a few months, these issues of server lag, Crashes , disconnection and so on have been brought up for every freaking launch to date and by now you should know what to expect.

     

    Yep. That's one reason I'm waiting for a month or two. The other reason is to let all the free-month-spastics make their exit, so most of the people left will just be people who enjoy the game.

    Then I'll give it a try.

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  • SuperqwertySuperqwerty Member Posts: 54
    Originally posted by VultureSkull

    Originally posted by Superqwerty


     
    We're complaining jerks because we've paid so much money to play the game in the first place. If studios which to test out the product on retail they should atleast give everyone a free trial period with some forewarning. Don't charge everyone £30 or $50 in the first instance and expect understanding when it goes wrong.


    They don't get any sympathy from me and all their players deserve an apology and recompense.


    By the way. I think it will end up being a good game, but I stand by what I've said before about this recent launch.



     

    You do get a free month in all MMOs. What you think that is for?

    And £30 for a game you will play for a year, if you like it, is nothing, 8pence a day for a year. Cheaper than a night out.

    It is not as if the companies that produce these games are rolling in our money is it?

    You stand by what you say, oh yeah, about this launch and all previous launches and all the ones to come, you will soon get tired and sit down, as it will not change soon my friend.

    Point being that no MMO will release flawlessly, if it does then it is definitely not the norm. Most producers are not even thinking about the release, they are thinking about making their game survive in the first year. Look at WAR,  on real shakey ground at the moment and you we all know what happened to Tabula....

    Refusing to excpet that MMOs  will release buggy and incomplete is like hitting your head against a brick wall and it will not change in the near future i am afraid, just accept it, if you dont like it dont buy brand new MMOs, rather simple really.

     

     

     

     

    What free month? £30 for the download and then it's about £15 a month subscription. Sorry I accept crap when I'm paying for the privledge. Also I will not accept being called a jerk and being treated like a jerk when I complain about it.  I'm the customer for crying out loud. This seems to be the only industry that has a hostile attitude towards it's customers. No wonder people start dropping out of games eventually. It's not boredom, it's being alienated from the studio's customer service!

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