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Healing as a shadow priest ?
delete5230
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I'm thinking of coming back to WoW, and I played most all classes but a Priest. So it's either a Priest or Warlock again.
I was just on TenTonHammer boards, and read a topic about soloing, and grouping. Several people were giving advice to the poster to play SHADOW and they can heal groups very well in instances.....very few would say you will get kicked from your groups a lot.
Can shadow Priest heal well ?
Do they get kicked from groups ?
I would love to try a Priest, but they can't solo well, and their mana management for grouping sucks, so why don't they fix this !
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hi, i used to play an 80 priest, stopped a month ago. you can be both shadow/holy/disc, just buy dual-spec. allows 2 different spec tree's which you can change without cost. in raids/heroics you can't heal in shadowform, just doesn't work. they made disc. more of a healspec instead of just pvp healing, so with both you can heal. shadow is the still fastest to level. and about mana, i've got decent gear on my priest and in heroics i never, yes NEVER go OOM, maybe its cos i am spirit-based. and when you're OOM in some cases, for example raids or stuff, you can always use hymn of hope, shadowfiend or a mana pot
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priest is great fun, i stopped due to my study, robs my time
regards, vlad
I leveled my priest in BC but...after 30, I didn't exactly have leveling problems, just take Spirit Tap and stack spirit, it is faster than classes like mages or warriors. I imagine it's even easier to level a priest now. Before 30, It can be a nightmare sometimes. Just buy a very good wand and be ready to PW:S+Fear if you pull too many mobs.
About healing as shadow...let's just say that you could probably heal as 0/0/0 since WOTLK instances are very easy(even heroics, compared to what they have been in BC) so I wouldn't worry so much. When you get spellpower from Outland/Northrend gear you can heal very well as Shadow.
What's the point of leveling a priest other than having him/her there in your character selection? It's probably the most powerful class in PvP at the moment and still a very nice healer in PvE.
shadow is FAR away from being the best in pvp!, disc is pretty awesome in pvp tho'. and as pve healers theyr mediocre really...
Shadow doesn't fall that horribly behind, like some people are trying to say. It's actually better than a lot of secondary PvP specs and got better representation in top 100 than DKs. Although, I wasn't talking about Shadow, but Disc. Disc's been an amazing PvP spec since Season 1. It was a lil bit underlooked because of 2v2's popularity back then, but it was an amazing healer in 3v3 and 5v5. Now Disc got the highest representation as a PvP spec and that's something.
I wouldn't advise trying to heal as shadow, the spec is not made it, it is a DPS spec. With the dual spec feature there is also no need to try that since you can have a DPS and a healing spec.
Having played a Disc/Holy and Holy/Disc specced in the past months I have to say that Disc is the most fun. It is more effective in 5 mans due to being much more mana efficient. Penance is a great single target heal and the shield that can be, through a talent, applied on a target due to a crit heal makes it a powerful spec. Holy is on the other hand essential for raid healing due to Circle of Healing as the no.1 AE healing spell for priests. Also the instant heal of a renew and the high numbers coming from that HoT due to talents are very effective. With all raid buffs and replenishment there is also no real mana concern. Still as a Disc priest you can also do a good job in raids, but you won't reach the healing amounts of a Holy due to lack of AE healing.
Shadow can heal very well at low levels. At higher levels it becomes more difficult, and healing well as shadow becomes more reliant on being a skilled player and having a skilled party around you.
Most priests can heal well as shadow until roughly level 45. With decent gear, and a skilled party around them, a shadow priest can heal a lot further - certainly well into the 60s.
For 1000g, you can purchase dual specialization. This allows you to swap between two talent specs on the fly. For example, my priest is level 73, and has a shadow spec for DPS, and a discipline spec for healing instances. However, many players won't have the needed amount of cash until they are at least level 60. So if you take shadow as your main spec, you may find there is a gap in your levelling career where you struggle to heal but can't afford dual spec.
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Actually - there's another reason disc priests don't do well on healing meters apart from their lack of aoe heals. A major problem is that many of their talents focus on damage prevention rather than curing - and damage prevention isn't measured by any of the meters out there.
That's one of the reasons healing meters should always be taken with a pinch of salt. They aren't nearly as reliable when comparing performance of players as damage meters are.
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Actually - one of the main reasons disc priests don't do well on healing meters isn't their lack of aoe heals. A major problem is that many of their talents focus on damage prevention rather than curing - and damage prevention isn't measured by any of the meters out there.
Actually that has changed recently. One of the 3.x patches made it so that shields can now be captured by damage meters. Somehow a check is performed before and after each attack against the shield to measure how much damage it absorbed. I don't know all the details about how it works but my partner plays a disc priest and she was very happy when the change was announced because everyone always assumes disc priests suck due to their lower numbers.
Maybe your average guild will complain about Disc Healing on healing meters, but PW:S rolling on raid is sometimes needed on many hardmodes and nobody will comment about Disc's efficiency in raids.
Welcome to times of dualspecs
Just dual shadow/disc or shadow/holly, and you are good to go, not like dungeons are too hard nowadays while leveling and when u just ding 80, so you have to be fully focused..Plus you will use same gear anyway, so basicly just gotta spend some gold, and voila, problem solved
You can easily heal up to heroics. Even the normal mode lvl 80 dungeons you can heal as a shadow spec. But really, 1000g is not that much and you should just get a healing spec.
Before dual specs, I was healing heroics as a moonkin spec with no problems. there is probably more synergies for moonkin healing then shadow healing.
Anything below level 79, you can heal EASILY as a shadow spec. Just like you can tank anything below lvl 79 as an arms warrior or ret pally
Exactly, due to huge shortage of tanks on my server - EU Spinebreaker, i spend alot of time tanking with my ret pala, while leveling, and with just a litlle change of + stam items + shield while in dungeon, and decent healers, you couldn't even see the difference without having proper tank
By then when you ding 80, you shoudnt have too much trouble gathering 1000 gold for dual spec, if you want to continue being able to act as both rolles, and that's very fun aspect of playing hybrid classes
They definitly won most with relase of dualspecs