Spammers are already addressed with the latest patch that introduced the spam filter. My low level alt that will potentially become my main has noone blocked.
So a bot is actually preventing you from playing the game? How is it that you are outsmarted by a script of commands so easily. There are creative ways to kill the bots, when I find a bot I will find a way to kill it.
It's because of the way kill rights work in this game and because usually there are a number of these bots in one area and by the time you get there all of the mobs needed for the quests are killed by the bots.
There is no excuse for allowing bots in a game I get that! But there is no excuse for you not to be smarter then a 30 line script.
You don't seem to understand the bigger picture here; which seems to be the case with a lot of people dismissing the issue or blaming it on other things.
It's not merely a "30 line script" - and to think that the botting apps/scripts are *that* simple *really* underscores how little you understand the scope of the issue. I suggest you do a little more research before speaking out like that. There are entire applications created and then purchased/used by people to bot and such.
That said... even going with your example... even if it were only a 30 line script... it would be a 30 line script executed repeatedly, many, *many* times faster than a human being could, with absolute precision, perfect targeting, perfect direction and perfectly timed execution of skills, etc... All of that being executed simultaneously by several bot-controlled characters in a given spot. A typical script can read the game's memory and react to mobs spawning before a player even sees them appear on screen.
A live player cannot be as fast, precise or efficient as a well scripted bot.... ever.. nevermind a group of them.
You don't seem to understand that I do understand there is a problem with Bots. What I did say is that if you are letting a 30 line script out smart you, that you are M&S.
Well, first, I didn't say you didn't understand there *is* a problem... I explained how you, demonstrably, don't fully appreciate the *scope* of the problem. And this last response from you only further demonstrates that.
I don't appreciate the scope of the problem that you percieve maybe true, but only because you assume everyone feels the same as you, which obviously is not the case. I think they should work on fixing the bot issue, however I think you are just whining about not being smart enough to beat out a 30 line script program.
I gave an explanation of how the problem isn't as simple as you characterize it - which you conveniently ignored, and continued on repeating your talking points.
I dont care how many lines of script a program uses the premise is the same, you are M&S for not being able work around it. I assume the fact that you are complaining about bots is that you are planning on continuing to play, which means your having fun. If your not having fun don't play.
The point remains... if you think botting/RMT happens on the back of tiny scripts, then you do not realize the scope of the issue or just how involved a typical botting/RMT setup is. You're demonstrating your ignorance of the situation more clearly than you probably realize. But hey, if you're perfectly happy to remain willfully ignorant, and go on thinking that these companies are collecting and selling 10s of millions of in-game currency with "30 line scripts".... well... more power to ya, I guess.
I don't care how many lines it uses, how complex the crime ring is, who benefits, who dosen't. I play games to have fun. If I'm having fun I keep playing, if I don't have fun I stop.
I saw my first bots this weekend "Completely" camping an area in Morheim. Took about 5 minutes to take over an area long enough to grind an entire level in about 2 hours (Level 23-24)
I don't think that is a problem 5 minutes?? It takes longer for me to sort through all my drops then to fix stupid bots.
And you believe that one incident that you experienced is representative of the issue as a whole? Really?
Again... willful ignorance.
No, I don't think its representive of the whole issue, I was attempting to empathize with people who don't like botters by giving an example of a like experience. Which I was still able to counter in less then the time it took to sort my bag.
Just one request.... If you're going to completely ignore what I say, and continue on repeating your talking points... next time, don't bother responding to me, okay? Don't waste my time.
How am I wasting your time. Oh wait you are forced to play a game you don't like, and reply to forums you don't want to read. You need a better union. Hopefully I ignored every point you were trying to make, this is just fun now.
Let me first state that I loved this game and beta, and enjoy every aspect of what it could be. But having a 35 cleric, realizing that it wasn't for me and now a 31 ranger. The amount of bots have become so ridiculous that it is becoming very difficult for legit players to even level up or complete quests. The game world in AION already suffers from being a bit small in comparison to most games, factor that in with the overabundance of bots that take up more than their fair share of the virtual real-estate, and you have a recipe for disaster. I've been playing MMO's back since UO and have never seen a game with such a high bot:player ratio as AION. It's quite obvious to almost every legit player that the issue has skyrocketed out of hand, and is beyond past the point where it should have been adressed. I play on the Siel/Asmodian server and on my 31 ranger am having severe difficulty even finding mobs to grind because EVERY spot is being camped 24/7 by bots. I find this very disappointing because I enjoy the game very much, and don't even mind that it's a tad grindy. However, I probably woln't be resubbing because the bots have become so overpopulated that the game borders on being unplayable.
it's a typical korean grind game what'd you expect?
Originally posted by Sacfed So a bot is actually preventing you from playing the game? How is it that you are outsmarted by a script of commands so easily. There are creative ways to kill the bots, when I find a bot I will find a way to kill it.
My wife and I KS them. It's fun they get no loot and tiny amounts of xp for what they are killing. If we had more time we'd KS them for hours, but we want to finish our quests and level.
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Again with this bot and gold farmer stuff. Do u people concentrate on drug dealers this much also? I hope so becasue it takes tax money to pay for law enforcement. I guess that dosent matter tho since it dosent affect u personally right?and its real life and u cant just complain them away.
i know on my server certain areas are over run with them, Beluslan being the main one. last night i counted 13 just around the fort there, in the area close enough to the fort you can still fly in. a couple looked like they was player bots for lazy tards. saw a cleric named sreon stuck in this deep hole in the back for like an hour running around in circles down there. and deep i mean there is a huge pit back there, and yes the tard could have just flown out but ya know.
Lol, I love that hole. I saw a bot named Pirate on Lumiel stuck down in that hole for the four hours I was grinding around Belusian Ice fortress. He just ran back and forth at the bottom of the pit. Wouldn't take a brain surgeon to figure out he was botting, but I really don't think NcSoft cares.
For some reason my thread on botting was closed...I don't understand why this one hasn't been yet and has continued for a couple of days. That being said...I do not appreciate being censored about a topic that is obviously affecting people who are playing this game.
I do bot and I choose to bot because like I said before I don't have time to level from 1 - 50 on my own time without it taking a year or more to reach the final level of 50. I know I know...excuses excuses and that's all most of you will think they are. I've heard the replies of if your not having fun leveling then you shouldn't be playing. Here is my response to that nonsensical retort...I do enjoy playing and I enjoy exploring, but when it takes me 3-5 hours of "exploring" and "having fun grinding the same mobs for hours on end" then it becomes a problem that I am willing to let another program do.
I enjoy the game very much and when I'm not busy with the other various life tasks that many of us have then I am playing the game by hand. I don't just bot on mindlessly and never play the game by hand but when I have time I do enjoy it.
However, when I spend the 3 to 5 hours grinding out one level on similar or the same mobs then thats where the fun stops. I see the potential for a lot of fun in the 45+ area of the game and I wouldn't mind doing all of that by hand but when its taking 3-5 hours for levels 25+ per level...I just don't have that kind of time on my hands.
Say what you will, flame me till your little fingers burn up from typing...I don't care what you think but I am giving you the perspective of someone who is in college full time and trying to maintain a 3.0 + GPA to get a decent paying job.
Also, I do not like or agree with the asian companies that bot characters with names such as "fdgas." Those types who bot 100% of the time and do it for a real life profit are doing it for the wrong reasons. Just my opinion of course. I never report botters who appear to have normal names and are not a part of the asians who want to make money off of the regular players. I do however report botters that appear to be a part of those companies and will continue to report them and hope they get banned.
And we will keep on report people like you so that they get banned.
If you don't have time to play go find some other game say a F2P or single player maybe your just wasting money and promoting illegal programs to do stuff for you instead of doing it yourself.
For some reason my thread on botting was closed...I don't understand why this one hasn't been yet and has continued for a couple of days. That being said...I do not appreciate being censored about a topic that is obviously affecting people who are playing this game.
I do bot and I choose to bot because like I said before I don't have time to level from 1 - 50 on my own time without it taking a year or more to reach the final level of 50. I know I know...excuses excuses and that's all most of you will think they are. I've heard the replies of if your not having fun leveling then you shouldn't be playing. Here is my response to that nonsensical retort...I do enjoy playing and I enjoy exploring, but when it takes me 3-5 hours of "exploring" and "having fun grinding the same mobs for hours on end" then it becomes a problem that I am willing to let another program do. I enjoy the game very much and when I'm not busy with the other various life tasks that many of us have then I am playing the game by hand. I don't just bot on mindlessly and never play the game by hand but when I have time I do enjoy it. However, when I spend the 3 to 5 hours grinding out one level on similar or the same mobs then thats where the fun stops. I see the potential for a lot of fun in the 45+ area of the game and I wouldn't mind doing all of that by hand but when its taking 3-5 hours for levels 25+ per level...I just don't have that kind of time on my hands. Say what you will, flame me till your little fingers burn up from typing...I don't care what you think but I am giving you the perspective of someone who is in college full time and trying to maintain a 3.0 + GPA to get a decent paying job. Also, I do not like or agree with the asian companies that bot characters with names such as "fdgas." Those types who bot 100% of the time and do it for a real life profit are doing it for the wrong reasons. Just my opinion of course. I never report botters who appear to have normal names and are not a part of the asians who want to make money off of the regular players. I do however report botters that appear to be a part of those companies and will continue to report them and hope they get banned.
ah your parents did well, dont do the work, just take credit for it
I'm level 11 and I've nearly stopped playing. Soloing in this game is boring and I can't find any groups, I just see bots around me. I ask repeatedly in LFG for groups but NEVER found anyone.
If I hadn't paid so much for the very disappointing Collector's, I'd be off already.
I'm level 11 and I've nearly stopped playing. Soloing in this game is boring and I can't find any groups, I just see bots around me. I ask repeatedly in LFG for groups but NEVER found anyone.
If I hadn't paid so much for the very disappointing Collector's, I'd be off already.
most bots aren't in the lower levels. You don't even need to group till level 15+ for krall
ah your parents did well, dont do the work, just take credit for it
Yes...I will take the credit for whatever it is that you are talking about because it's a video game and it doesn't hurt or help me IRL in any way. With other situations that are a bit more...important...I won't take that road. I have morals and values that I believe are high, however, I will not care about a video game and the decisions I make because I know that I am not doing them for the wrong reasons. (please try to argue right and wrong with me because it will never end)
I'm level 11 and I've nearly stopped playing. Soloing in this game is boring and I can't find any groups, I just see bots around me. I ask repeatedly in LFG for groups but NEVER found anyone.
If I hadn't paid so much for the very disappointing Collector's, I'd be off already.
most bots aren't in the lower levels. You don't even need to group till level 15+ for krall
Very very true...wait till you hit the 20+ zone. It's out of control out there and me being a botter...it's hard for me to even find a spot to bot because they are everywhere you look.
ah your parents did well, dont do the work, just take credit for it
Yes...I will take the credit for whatever it is that you are talking about because it's a video game and it doesn't hurt or help me IRL in any way. With other situations that are a bit more...important...I won't take that road. I have morals and values that I believe are high, however, I will not care about a video game and the decisions I make because I know that I am not doing them for the wrong reasons. (please try to argue right and wrong with me because it will never end)
Morals?, you dont have Morals, you have Self justification, it works for you therefor its ok, send a post to NCSOFT that you use bot, tell them how and when, justify your morals not your lack of gameplay
ah your parents did well, dont do the work, just take credit for it
Yes...I will take the credit for whatever it is that you are talking about because it's a video game and it doesn't hurt or help me IRL in any way. With other situations that are a bit more...important...I won't take that road. I have morals and values that I believe are high, however, I will not care about a video game and the decisions I make because I know that I am not doing them for the wrong reasons. (please try to argue right and wrong with me because it will never end)
Morals?, you dont have Morals, you have Self justification, it works for you therefor its ok, send a post to NCSOFT that you use bot, tell them how and when, justify your morals not your lack of gameplay
Self justification=selfish behavior. The "I do what feels right for me" attitude has just about brought our society to it's lowest point ever. Common courtesy and consideration is pretty much gone. We have de-evolved in our societal behavior.
For some reason my thread on botting was closed...I don't understand why this one hasn't been yet and has continued for a couple of days. That being said...I do not appreciate being censored about a topic that is obviously affecting people who are playing this game.
I do bot and I choose to bot because like I said before I don't have time to level from 1 - 50 on my own time without it taking a year or more to reach the final level of 50. I know I know...excuses excuses and that's all most of you will think they are. I've heard the replies of if your not having fun leveling then you shouldn't be playing. Here is my response to that nonsensical retort...I do enjoy playing and I enjoy exploring, but when it takes me 3-5 hours of "exploring" and "having fun grinding the same mobs for hours on end" then it becomes a problem that I am willing to let another program do. I enjoy the game very much and when I'm not busy with the other various life tasks that many of us have then I am playing the game by hand. I don't just bot on mindlessly and never play the game by hand but when I have time I do enjoy it. However, when I spend the 3 to 5 hours grinding out one level on similar or the same mobs then thats where the fun stops. I see the potential for a lot of fun in the 45+ area of the game and I wouldn't mind doing all of that by hand but when its taking 3-5 hours for levels 25+ per level...I just don't have that kind of time on my hands. Say what you will, flame me till your little fingers burn up from typing...I don't care what you think but I am giving you the perspective of someone who is in college full time and trying to maintain a 3.0 + GPA to get a decent paying job. Also, I do not like or agree with the asian companies that bot characters with names such as "fdgas." Those types who bot 100% of the time and do it for a real life profit are doing it for the wrong reasons. Just my opinion of course. I never report botters who appear to have normal names and are not a part of the asians who want to make money off of the regular players. I do however report botters that appear to be a part of those companies and will continue to report them and hope they get banned.
Interesting perspective.
While I do not agree with botting at all, and I wonder why they even bother playing at all, this post brings up some valid points.
Essentially, this post is justifying botting because the grind to end game is just too boring for this poster. He wants to get to the fun of endgame without the repetitive grind and he doesn't have time for that grind. This actually makes sense in a lazy, twisted way.
The sad fact, is that grinding, even with quests thrown in, can be time comsuming and boring. Now, MMO's are supposed to be a timesink, but when does the expected timesink become an unacceptable chore? And, should we players really be paying good money just to be bored?
The game Jade Dynasty actually includes a Bot mechanic built in to it, and it begs the question, if the game is so repetitive that the Dev's felt the need to include a bot mechanic, then why bother with those levels and activities in the first place?
Such posts bring a type of vallidity to another idea: Maybe there should be an option where a player can spend a little extra money and be furnished a toon already leveled and prepped for endgame? Sure, there will be purchasers who never had played the class and will suck, but for those who are on alt number 3 I can see folks seriously considering this option.
The other thing is that maybe, just maybe, the Devs should make a game where the mid game content is engaging and is so fun that if you bot, you just missed out. I am not sure how to go about this, but I am pretty sure if the mid game content was more than kill mob and move on to next mob they might have a winner.
A world that is engaging, truely interactive and reactive, and worth exploring at all levels of play would render the above poster's claims moot.
And should he choose to bot after all that, well then he is just a lazy exploiter, who has gaming ADHD and should not be playing MMO's. (I am sure some of you already thinks he has gaming ADHD and should not be playing MMO's)
The major downside, in my opinion to the poster's botting in current games is that he is making leveling harder for everyone else, since bots tend to farm out and deplete an area for hours on end depriving actual players of targets. He is making the grind worse for otherplayers. In this way, the botter is a selfish jerk.
Jerk or not, this issue does bring to light the need for more engaging content in MMO's at all levels of play, not just endgame.
Of course, in Aion, our botting friend could try the PVP in the abyss if he is that bored. Just an idea.
I'm level 11 and I've nearly stopped playing. Soloing in this game is boring and I can't find any groups, I just see bots around me. I ask repeatedly in LFG for groups but NEVER found anyone.
If I hadn't paid so much for the very disappointing Collector's, I'd be off already.
most bots aren't in the lower levels. You don't even need to group till level 15+ for krall
I'm level 11 and I've nearly stopped playing. Soloing in this game is boring and I can't find any groups, I just see bots around me. I ask repeatedly in LFG for groups but NEVER found anyone.
If I hadn't paid so much for the very disappointing Collector's, I'd be off already.
most bots aren't in the lower levels. You don't even need to group till level 15+ for krall
Even then, I prefer grouping. I guess I got spoiled by City of Heroes. The only people I see hunting are bots. I see people in towns but that's all.
rafaelrehn, even if I could(EULA and all, understandable) and wanted to transfer my account, it's associated to my main NCsoft account.
Originally posted by Fkinglinux At this point, the legit bots are the lesser part of the problem, its the tons and tons of bots with names like "Dddappdd" and "Xsdfffpm" that are the major contributors. If only some were removed, I would probably be able to grind again, but fighting for spawns everywhere is getting old. Not to mention on the server I play on, the #1 Elyos guild "Benny Lava" is also riddled with xploiters. There was even a video posted on youtube made by their legion leader Naruto showing how to exploit the elites.
This is one of the main reasons I recently stopped playing. It's like this on EVERY server. The top guilds are exploiting, botting, buying gold or doing pvp farming with a guild on the other side for quick and easy Abyss points. Sometimes, all of the above.
Here's an example, I was in the Abyss earlier today and saw an Elyos assassin coming towards me while i was trying to get a quest item from a mob. Seeing them coming, I quickly attacked them and got wtfpwned in about 10 seconds. Naturally, i thought "Damn, that guy must have been high level" so I checked him up on aion.com. And look at this guy -
Level 29, TWO +10 blue daggers and FOUR pieces of Gold gear. At level 29. Buy gold, much? It's no fun playing with people like this and it's running rampant on the servers. Sure, I could buy gold - I could buy 100 million gold. But I wont, because a. It's a waste of money and b. It's cheating. So, I just quit instead.
Maybe she does not by gold just has a bot alt. I have a main and a bot alt, I turn bot on go to bed and wake up with 1 mil+ kinah. It its great to have a little extra money to spend on armor, weapons and crafting. My bot it also a higher lvl then my main so I get tons of blue drops just need to lvl up to equip. I do not sell kinah but I have a crap ton sitting in my shared bank going to waste.
The bot programs run from crap to really good ( free to like 70ish bucks lol). The better ones have been out for a year in korea/ china and often kill faster and better than a human ever could. Even though I bot I cant stand the 24/7 botters sellers. Yeah I am a hypocrite.
P.S. use the damn dont KS feature if you have it and dont kill mob when a player is so many steps from a mob ect. BOT NICE!
Maybe she does not by gold just has a bot alt. I have a main and a bot alt, I turn bot on go to bed and wake up with 1 mil+ kinah. It its great to have a little extra money to spend on armor, weapons and crafting. My bot it also a higher lvl then my main so I get tons of blue drops just need to lvl up to equip. I do not sell kinah but I have a crap ton sitting in my shared bank going to waste. The bot programs run from crap to really good ( free to like 70ish bucks lol). The better ones have been out for a year in korea/ china and often kill faster and better than a human ever could. Even though I bot I cant stand the 24/7 botters sellers. Yeah I am a hypocrite.
P.S. use the damn dont KS feature if you have it and dont kill mob when a player is so many steps from a mob ect. BOT NICE!
Your response has assured me that quitting was the right thing to do. To all the legit players out there, good luck!
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Spammers are already addressed with the latest patch that introduced the spam filter. My low level alt that will potentially become my main has noone blocked.
It's because of the way kill rights work in this game and because usually there are a number of these bots in one area and by the time you get there all of the mobs needed for the quests are killed by the bots.
There is no excuse for allowing bots in a game I get that! But there is no excuse for you not to be smarter then a 30 line script.
You don't seem to understand the bigger picture here; which seems to be the case with a lot of people dismissing the issue or blaming it on other things.
It's not merely a "30 line script" - and to think that the botting apps/scripts are *that* simple *really* underscores how little you understand the scope of the issue. I suggest you do a little more research before speaking out like that. There are entire applications created and then purchased/used by people to bot and such.
That said... even going with your example... even if it were only a 30 line script... it would be a 30 line script executed repeatedly, many, *many* times faster than a human being could, with absolute precision, perfect targeting, perfect direction and perfectly timed execution of skills, etc... All of that being executed simultaneously by several bot-controlled characters in a given spot. A typical script can read the game's memory and react to mobs spawning before a player even sees them appear on screen.
A live player cannot be as fast, precise or efficient as a well scripted bot.... ever.. nevermind a group of them.
You don't seem to understand that I do understand there is a problem with Bots. What I did say is that if you are letting a 30 line script out smart you, that you are M&S.
Well, first, I didn't say you didn't understand there *is* a problem... I explained how you, demonstrably, don't fully appreciate the *scope* of the problem. And this last response from you only further demonstrates that.
I don't appreciate the scope of the problem that you percieve maybe true, but only because you assume everyone feels the same as you, which obviously is not the case. I think they should work on fixing the bot issue, however I think you are just whining about not being smart enough to beat out a 30 line script program.
I gave an explanation of how the problem isn't as simple as you characterize it - which you conveniently ignored, and continued on repeating your talking points.
I dont care how many lines of script a program uses the premise is the same, you are M&S for not being able work around it. I assume the fact that you are complaining about bots is that you are planning on continuing to play, which means your having fun. If your not having fun don't play.
The point remains... if you think botting/RMT happens on the back of tiny scripts, then you do not realize the scope of the issue or just how involved a typical botting/RMT setup is. You're demonstrating your ignorance of the situation more clearly than you probably realize. But hey, if you're perfectly happy to remain willfully ignorant, and go on thinking that these companies are collecting and selling 10s of millions of in-game currency with "30 line scripts".... well... more power to ya, I guess.
I don't care how many lines it uses, how complex the crime ring is, who benefits, who dosen't. I play games to have fun. If I'm having fun I keep playing, if I don't have fun I stop.
I saw my first bots this weekend "Completely" camping an area in Morheim. Took about 5 minutes to take over an area long enough to grind an entire level in about 2 hours (Level 23-24)
I don't think that is a problem 5 minutes?? It takes longer for me to sort through all my drops then to fix stupid bots.
And you believe that one incident that you experienced is representative of the issue as a whole? Really?
Again... willful ignorance.
No, I don't think its representive of the whole issue, I was attempting to empathize with people who don't like botters by giving an example of a like experience. Which I was still able to counter in less then the time it took to sort my bag.
Just one request.... If you're going to completely ignore what I say, and continue on repeating your talking points... next time, don't bother responding to me, okay? Don't waste my time.
How am I wasting your time. Oh wait you are forced to play a game you don't like, and reply to forums you don't want to read. You need a better union. Hopefully I ignored every point you were trying to make, this is just fun now.
it's a typical korean grind game what'd you expect?
My wife and I KS them. It's fun they get no loot and tiny amounts of xp for what they are killing. If we had more time we'd KS them for hours, but we want to finish our quests and level.
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Again with this bot and gold farmer stuff. Do u people concentrate on drug dealers this much also? I hope so becasue it takes tax money to pay for law enforcement. I guess that dosent matter tho since it dosent affect u personally right?and its real life and u cant just complain them away.
Lol, I love that hole. I saw a bot named Pirate on Lumiel stuck down in that hole for the four hours I was grinding around Belusian Ice fortress. He just ran back and forth at the bottom of the pit. Wouldn't take a brain surgeon to figure out he was botting, but I really don't think NcSoft cares.
For some reason my thread on botting was closed...I don't understand why this one hasn't been yet and has continued for a couple of days. That being said...I do not appreciate being censored about a topic that is obviously affecting people who are playing this game.
I do bot and I choose to bot because like I said before I don't have time to level from 1 - 50 on my own time without it taking a year or more to reach the final level of 50. I know I know...excuses excuses and that's all most of you will think they are. I've heard the replies of if your not having fun leveling then you shouldn't be playing. Here is my response to that nonsensical retort...I do enjoy playing and I enjoy exploring, but when it takes me 3-5 hours of "exploring" and "having fun grinding the same mobs for hours on end" then it becomes a problem that I am willing to let another program do.
I enjoy the game very much and when I'm not busy with the other various life tasks that many of us have then I am playing the game by hand. I don't just bot on mindlessly and never play the game by hand but when I have time I do enjoy it.
However, when I spend the 3 to 5 hours grinding out one level on similar or the same mobs then thats where the fun stops. I see the potential for a lot of fun in the 45+ area of the game and I wouldn't mind doing all of that by hand but when its taking 3-5 hours for levels 25+ per level...I just don't have that kind of time on my hands.
Say what you will, flame me till your little fingers burn up from typing...I don't care what you think but I am giving you the perspective of someone who is in college full time and trying to maintain a 3.0 + GPA to get a decent paying job.
Also, I do not like or agree with the asian companies that bot characters with names such as "fdgas." Those types who bot 100% of the time and do it for a real life profit are doing it for the wrong reasons. Just my opinion of course. I never report botters who appear to have normal names and are not a part of the asians who want to make money off of the regular players. I do however report botters that appear to be a part of those companies and will continue to report them and hope they get banned.
And we will keep on report people like you so that they get banned.
If you don't have time to play go find some other game say a F2P or single player maybe your just wasting money and promoting illegal programs to do stuff for you instead of doing it yourself.
ah your parents did well, dont do the work, just take credit for it
honestly its not very hard to level in this game if you need a bot then your pathetic
I'm level 11 and I've nearly stopped playing. Soloing in this game is boring and I can't find any groups, I just see bots around me. I ask repeatedly in LFG for groups but NEVER found anyone.
If I hadn't paid so much for the very disappointing Collector's, I'd be off already.
most bots aren't in the lower levels. You don't even need to group till level 15+ for krall
ah your parents did well, dont do the work, just take credit for it
Yes...I will take the credit for whatever it is that you are talking about because it's a video game and it doesn't hurt or help me IRL in any way. With other situations that are a bit more...important...I won't take that road. I have morals and values that I believe are high, however, I will not care about a video game and the decisions I make because I know that I am not doing them for the wrong reasons. (please try to argue right and wrong with me because it will never end)
most bots aren't in the lower levels. You don't even need to group till level 15+ for krall
Very very true...wait till you hit the 20+ zone. It's out of control out there and me being a botter...it's hard for me to even find a spot to bot because they are everywhere you look.
ah your parents did well, dont do the work, just take credit for it
Yes...I will take the credit for whatever it is that you are talking about because it's a video game and it doesn't hurt or help me IRL in any way. With other situations that are a bit more...important...I won't take that road. I have morals and values that I believe are high, however, I will not care about a video game and the decisions I make because I know that I am not doing them for the wrong reasons. (please try to argue right and wrong with me because it will never end)
Morals?, you dont have Morals, you have Self justification, it works for you therefor its ok, send a post to NCSOFT that you use bot, tell them how and when, justify your morals not your lack of gameplay
ah your parents did well, dont do the work, just take credit for it
Yes...I will take the credit for whatever it is that you are talking about because it's a video game and it doesn't hurt or help me IRL in any way. With other situations that are a bit more...important...I won't take that road. I have morals and values that I believe are high, however, I will not care about a video game and the decisions I make because I know that I am not doing them for the wrong reasons. (please try to argue right and wrong with me because it will never end)
Morals?, you dont have Morals, you have Self justification, it works for you therefor its ok, send a post to NCSOFT that you use bot, tell them how and when, justify your morals not your lack of gameplay
Self justification=selfish behavior. The "I do what feels right for me" attitude has just about brought our society to it's lowest point ever. Common courtesy and consideration is pretty much gone. We have de-evolved in our societal behavior.
Interesting perspective.
While I do not agree with botting at all, and I wonder why they even bother playing at all, this post brings up some valid points.
Essentially, this post is justifying botting because the grind to end game is just too boring for this poster. He wants to get to the fun of endgame without the repetitive grind and he doesn't have time for that grind. This actually makes sense in a lazy, twisted way.
The sad fact, is that grinding, even with quests thrown in, can be time comsuming and boring. Now, MMO's are supposed to be a timesink, but when does the expected timesink become an unacceptable chore? And, should we players really be paying good money just to be bored?
The game Jade Dynasty actually includes a Bot mechanic built in to it, and it begs the question, if the game is so repetitive that the Dev's felt the need to include a bot mechanic, then why bother with those levels and activities in the first place?
Such posts bring a type of vallidity to another idea: Maybe there should be an option where a player can spend a little extra money and be furnished a toon already leveled and prepped for endgame? Sure, there will be purchasers who never had played the class and will suck, but for those who are on alt number 3 I can see folks seriously considering this option.
The other thing is that maybe, just maybe, the Devs should make a game where the mid game content is engaging and is so fun that if you bot, you just missed out. I am not sure how to go about this, but I am pretty sure if the mid game content was more than kill mob and move on to next mob they might have a winner.
A world that is engaging, truely interactive and reactive, and worth exploring at all levels of play would render the above poster's claims moot.
And should he choose to bot after all that, well then he is just a lazy exploiter, who has gaming ADHD and should not be playing MMO's. (I am sure some of you already thinks he has gaming ADHD and should not be playing MMO's)
The major downside, in my opinion to the poster's botting in current games is that he is making leveling harder for everyone else, since bots tend to farm out and deplete an area for hours on end depriving actual players of targets. He is making the grind worse for otherplayers. In this way, the botter is a selfish jerk.
Jerk or not, this issue does bring to light the need for more engaging content in MMO's at all levels of play, not just endgame.
Of course, in Aion, our botting friend could try the PVP in the abyss if he is that bored. Just an idea.
most bots aren't in the lower levels. You don't even need to group till level 15+ for krall
I'll take it off your hands pm me
most bots aren't in the lower levels. You don't even need to group till level 15+ for krall
Even then, I prefer grouping. I guess I got spoiled by City of Heroes. The only people I see hunting are bots. I see people in towns but that's all.
rafaelrehn, even if I could(EULA and all, understandable) and wanted to transfer my account, it's associated to my main NCsoft account.
This is one of the main reasons I recently stopped playing. It's like this on EVERY server. The top guilds are exploiting, botting, buying gold or doing pvp farming with a guild on the other side for quick and easy Abyss points. Sometimes, all of the above.
Here's an example, I was in the Abyss earlier today and saw an Elyos assassin coming towards me while i was trying to get a quest item from a mob. Seeing them coming, I quickly attacked them and got wtfpwned in about 10 seconds. Naturally, i thought "Damn, that guy must have been high level" so I checked him up on aion.com. And look at this guy -
na.aiononline.com/livestatus/character-legion/search
Level 29, TWO +10 blue daggers and FOUR pieces of Gold gear. At level 29. Buy gold, much? It's no fun playing with people like this and it's running rampant on the servers. Sure, I could buy gold - I could buy 100 million gold. But I wont, because a. It's a waste of money and b. It's cheating. So, I just quit instead.
Maybe she does not by gold just has a bot alt. I have a main and a bot alt, I turn bot on go to bed and wake up with 1 mil+ kinah. It its great to have a little extra money to spend on armor, weapons and crafting. My bot it also a higher lvl then my main so I get tons of blue drops just need to lvl up to equip. I do not sell kinah but I have a crap ton sitting in my shared bank going to waste.
The bot programs run from crap to really good ( free to like 70ish bucks lol). The better ones have been out for a year in korea/ china and often kill faster and better than a human ever could. Even though I bot I cant stand the 24/7 botters sellers. Yeah I am a hypocrite.
P.S. use the damn dont KS feature if you have it and dont kill mob when a player is so many steps from a mob ect. BOT NICE!
Your response has assured me that quitting was the right thing to do. To all the legit players out there, good luck!