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2010 here we come ? Who will succeed and who will Fail

ThomasN7ThomasN7 87.18.7.148Member CommonPosts: 6,690

The year 2010 is right around the corner and people are already expecting great success. It's simple, What new mmos will succeed and who will fail ? Yes, it is subjective but having an opinion is why we are here in the first place. Here is a list of some of the 2010 mmo releases. Personally I am banking on The Old Republic and FFXIV to be the best new mmos next year. The rest will pretty much fail miserably. ;) Hopefully I am wrong with the fail part!

1. Star Trek Online (Cryptic Studios)

2. The Old Republic (Bioware,Lucas Arts)

3. Earthrise (Masthead Studios)

4. Global Agenda (Hi-Rez Studios)

5. DC Universe (Sony Online Entertainment)

6. The Agency ( Sony Online Entertainment)

7. JumpGate Evolution (NetDevil Studios)

8. Dust514 (CCP)

9. FFXIV (Square Enix)

10. TERA (Bluehole Studios)

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  • RavenRaven Member UncommonPosts: 2,005

     Add to that TERA (Bluehole Studios) apparently scheduled for next year in NA/EU.

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  • Cyborg99Cyborg99 Member Posts: 576

    WoW will succeed, all else will fail.......

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  • ThormierThormier Member Posts: 7

    I think that Global Agena and the new Star Wars will have a good chance of being pretty amazing

     

  • IbluerateIbluerate Member Posts: 256

    I have a feeling SW:TOR will be relatively successful.

    I'm not quite sure about the rest.

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  • Pyro240Pyro240 Member Posts: 194


    Mmm, well Global Agenda and SWTOR are going to succeed I think.

    I don't know about the other ones.

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  • TyrantasTyrantas Member UncommonPosts: 369
    Originally posted by SaintViktor


    The year 2010 is right around the corner and people are already expecting great success. It's simple, What new mmos will succeed and who will fail ? Yes, it is subjective but having an opinion is why we are here in the first place. Here is a list of some of the 2010 mmo releases. Personally I am banking on The Old Republic and FFXIV to be the best new mmos next year. The rest will pretty much fail miserably. ;) Hopefully I am wrong with the fail part!
    1. Star Trek Online (Cryptic Studios) Fail
    2. The Old Republic (Bioware,Lucas Arts) Partial success, not as big as many expect.
    3. Earthrise (Masthead Studios) Fail
    4. Global Agena (Hi-Rez Studios) No Idea, btw it's Agenda
    5. DC Universe (Sony Online Entertainment) Fail
    6. The Agency ( Sony Online Entertainment) Fail
    7. JumpGate Evolution (NetDevil Studios) Fail
    8. Dust514 (CCP) What's that ?
    9. FFXIV (Square Enix) Success.

     

    Just my guessings, bit sad that many of em prolly will fail.

  • VarnyVarny Member Posts: 765

     I think we can safely say all will fail apart from SWTOR and FF14 which all the emos buy

  • altairzqaltairzq Member Posts: 3,811

    1. Star Crap Online.

    2. The Old Crap.

    3. Earthcrap.

    4. Global Crap.

    5. Crap Universe.

    6. The Crap.

    7. JumpCrap Evolution.

    8. Crap514.

    9. CrapXIV

  • phil18phil18 Member Posts: 43

    I think SW:TOR is the only MMO which really has a shot at becoming a big hit. But who knows, everyone thought either AOC or WAR would become massive but they both faded in comparision with WOW.

  • Cyborg99Cyborg99 Member Posts: 576
    Originally posted by Tyrantas

    Originally posted by SaintViktor


    The year 2010 is right around the corner and people are already expecting great success. It's simple, What new mmos will succeed and who will fail ? Yes, it is subjective but having an opinion is why we are here in the first place. Here is a list of some of the 2010 mmo releases. Personally I am banking on The Old Republic and FFXIV to be the best new mmos next year. The rest will pretty much fail miserably. ;) Hopefully I am wrong with the fail part!
    1. Star Trek Online (Cryptic Studios) Fail
    2. The Old Republic (Bioware,Lucas Arts) Partial success, not as big as many expect.
    3. Earthrise (Masthead Studios) Fail
    4. Global Agena (Hi-Rez Studios) No Idea, btw it's Agenda
    5. DC Universe (Sony Online Entertainment) Fail
    6. The Agency ( Sony Online Entertainment) Fail
    7. JumpGate Evolution (NetDevil Studios) Fail
    8. Dust514 (CCP) What's that ?
    9. FFXIV (Square Enix) Success.

     

    Just my guessings, bit sad that many of em prolly will fail.



     

    Will since you don't know what dust514 is your opinion isn't very valuable.

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  • TyrantasTyrantas Member UncommonPosts: 369
    Originally posted by Cyborg99

    Originally posted by Tyrantas

    Originally posted by SaintViktor


    The year 2010 is right around the corner and people are already expecting great success. It's simple, What new mmos will succeed and who will fail ? Yes, it is subjective but having an opinion is why we are here in the first place. Here is a list of some of the 2010 mmo releases. Personally I am banking on The Old Republic and FFXIV to be the best new mmos next year. The rest will pretty much fail miserably. ;) Hopefully I am wrong with the fail part!
    1. Star Trek Online (Cryptic Studios) Fail
    2. The Old Republic (Bioware,Lucas Arts) Partial success, not as big as many expect.
    3. Earthrise (Masthead Studios) Fail
    4. Global Agena (Hi-Rez Studios) No Idea, btw it's Agenda
    5. DC Universe (Sony Online Entertainment) Fail
    6. The Agency ( Sony Online Entertainment) Fail
    7. JumpGate Evolution (NetDevil Studios) Fail
    8. Dust514 (CCP) What's that ?
    9. FFXIV (Square Enix) Success.

     

    Just my guessings, bit sad that many of em prolly will fail.



     

    Will since you don't know what dust514 is your opinion isn't very valuable.

    It's only ur opinion ^^

  • raystantzraystantz Final Fantasy XI CorrespondentMember UncommonPosts: 1,237

    FF14 is going to be the most successful of those games.. hands down.

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  • jusomdudejusomdude Member RarePosts: 2,706

    Out of all on the list I'd say SWTOR comes in first, while the others have varying amounts of limited success.

    I think the least successful will be Earthrise probably.

  • KenaoshiKenaoshi Member UncommonPosts: 1,022

    Gw2, will be everybody´s second game.

    "whut? gw2 on top why? nobody plays it

    -no, but everybody bought because its average AAA title for much less" =)

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  • tboxtbox Member Posts: 372

    What is considered a failure or a success?   Failures have been so liberally thrown around in MMO forums that what the heck does a failure mean. Like the closing of the game in a short time? Or low subscription numbers? 

    I am going to say that " failure"   means  for my reponce to be based on low subs as compared to the relative amount devs spent on the game. 

     

     Star Trek Online (Cryptic Studios) Fail

    2. The Old Republic (Bioware,Lucas Arts) fail

    3. Earthrise (Masthead Studios) fail

    4. Global Agenda (Hi-Rez Studios) fail

    5. DC Universe (Sony Online Entertainment) fail

    6. The Agency ( Sony Online Entertainment) fail

    7. JumpGate Evolution (NetDevil Studios) fail

    8. Dust514 (CCP) fail (xbox game right?)

    9. FFXIV (Square Enix) success

    10. TERA (Bluehole Studios) no idea

     

    Only a handful of games have slowly increased subs without losing a ton of subs first. 

    I have no doubt that many  of my "fails" will have some big box sales but they will in 6 months be losing subs rapidly. (warhammer, aoc). 

    Only reason I think FFXIV will be ok is because its really a niche game in a sense people who play the older mmo  are not really playing everthing else.  I  don't see them attracting many new players so their number should stay good because of loyal fans.

    This is very speculative with the little I know of TOR's features.

     

  • TyrantasTyrantas Member UncommonPosts: 369
    Originally posted by Kenaoshi


    Gw2, will be everybody´s second game.
    "whut? gw2 on top why? nobody plays it

    -no, but everybody bought because its average AAA title for much less" =)

    GW2 comes out in 2011.

  • IhmoteppIhmotepp Member Posts: 14,495
    Originally posted by Pyro240




    Mmm, well Global Agenda and SWTOR are going to succeed I think.

    I don't know about the other ones.

     

    I agree about SWTOR. I'll be very surprised if SWTOR doesn't succeed, meaning it makes a profit. You don't have to reach WoW numbers to be profitable.

    Global Agenda is not an MMORPG. Even the Devs dont' call it an MMORPG.

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  • PizziJQPizziJQ Member Posts: 140

    FF14

     

    Second would probly be GW2

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  • tboxtbox Member Posts: 372
    Originally posted by Ihmotepp

    Originally posted by Pyro240




    Mmm, well Global Agenda and SWTOR are going to succeed I think.

    I don't know about the other ones.

     

    I agree about SWTOR. I'll be very surprised if SWTOR doesn't succeed, meaning it makes a profit. You don't have to reach WoW numbers to be profitable.

    Global Agenda is not an MMORPG. Even the Devs dont' call it an MMORPG.

     

    If we look at profit numbers I bet there has a been a ton of "failures" that were successful.  I would agree that if  SWTOR was made like other bioware games it will be fun maybe not in a long term sense.  But regardless of its long term  appeal it will be most likely profitable on box sales alone. 

  • IhmoteppIhmotepp Member Posts: 14,495
    Originally posted by tbox

    Originally posted by Ihmotepp

    Originally posted by Pyro240




    Mmm, well Global Agenda and SWTOR are going to succeed I think.

    I don't know about the other ones.

     

    I agree about SWTOR. I'll be very surprised if SWTOR doesn't succeed, meaning it makes a profit. You don't have to reach WoW numbers to be profitable.

    Global Agenda is not an MMORPG. Even the Devs dont' call it an MMORPG.

     

    If we look at profit numbers I bet there has a been a ton of "failures" that were successful.  I would agree that if  SWTOR was made like other bioware games it will be fun maybe not in a long term sense.  But regardless of its long term  appeal it will be most likely profitable on box sales alone. 

     

    I don't think that's possible because of the overhead of running a server farm, and customer service, overhead for monthly credit card billing, etc.

    There's a lot more costs running an online game than just shipping the single player boxes and you're done. I think they will HAVE to have some player retention to make a profit, but I agree that box sales will go a long way to pay back development costs.

    This is an area where Darkfall lost a lot of money. They had a lot of people that would have bought the box on launch, but they didnt' have the server capacity to handle everyone, so they had limited sales. Now, a lot of those people that would have purchased the box on launch will never buy the game. That's lost revenue.

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  • DevilXaphanDevilXaphan Member UncommonPosts: 1,144

    1. Star Trek Online (Cryptic Studios) - Under 100K subs

    2. The Old Republic (Bioware,Lucas Arts) - Will do pretty good

    3. Earthrise (Masthead Studios) - Under 100K subs

    4. Global Agenda (Hi-Rez Studios) - Mixed but think it will do ok

    5. DC Universe (Sony Online Entertainment) - got to be way better than CoH to compete

    6. The Agency ( Sony Online Entertainment) - Have no idea

    7. JumpGate Evolution (NetDevil Studios) - Moderate success

    8. Dust514 (CCP) - Should do very good on the console

    9. FFXIV (Square Enix) - I say moderate success

    10. TERA (Bluehole Studios) - Can be a success

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  • Predator160Predator160 Member Posts: 128
    Originally posted by SaintViktor


    The year 2010 is right around the corner and people are already expecting great success. It's simple, What new mmos will succeed and who will fail ? Yes, it is subjective but having an opinion is why we are here in the first place. Here is a list of some of the 2010 mmo releases. Personally I am banking on The Old Republic and FFXIV to be the best new mmos next year. The rest will pretty much fail miserably. ;) Hopefully I am wrong with the fail part!
    1. Star Trek Online (Cryptic Studios)
    -Fail, players will be expecting too much from Cryptic, they will expect the game to give them the same feel that old star trek did and in return you will get a lot of disappointed fans and lost sub's. However I could be wrong, I thought the new Star Trek movie that came out 2 months ago was going to suck, I was dead wrong.
    2. The Old Republic (Bioware,Lucas Arts)
    I have faith in Bioware and especially Lucas Arts. Every game i've played by them has been great and mainly the Jedi Knight Outcast series. Although Bioware has experience in making single-player RPG's, I don't know if they can pull off a good MMORPG.
    3. Earthrise (Masthead Studios)
    "IDK haven't been following this game"
    4. Global Agenda (Hi-Rez Studios)
    "    "
    5. DC Universe (Sony Online Entertainment)
    "     "
    6. The Agency ( Sony Online Entertainment)
    "    "
    7. JumpGate Evolution (NetDevil Studios)
    Didn't this game get cancelled recently? IDK i thought I saw an article about it last month.
    8. Dust514 (CCP)
    "    "
    9. FFXIV (Square Enix)
    "   "
    10. TERA (Bluehole Studios)
    "   "
     

    By the way, where the heck in Mortal Online on your list? It's supposed to be what DarkFall should have been, and I'm following that game the most.

  • clikclik Member Posts: 68

    Huge success TOR and FF14 that's pretty much it. 

  • ScalebaneScalebane Member UncommonPosts: 1,883

     As long as any of those games has enough subs to pay the bills and keep more content coming none of them will fail.

    For me a game hasn't failed till they close the servers down.

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  • jusomdudejusomdude Member RarePosts: 2,706

    Why are so many people saying FFXIV? FFXI isn't doing and hasn't done that well outside the asian market.

     

    I guess the OP didn't specify which market though. For the western market, I think FFXIV will do only slightly better than FFXI, although I think it will do a lot better in the asian market.

    It's the opposite for SWTOR though. It will do well in the western market and not so well in the asian market.

     

    Overall success as in profit, I think I'll stick with SWTOR.

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