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  • TrueWarrior1TrueWarrior1 Member Posts: 154
    Originally posted by SporeDot

    Originally posted by TrueWarrior1

    Originally posted by SporeDot

    Originally posted by TrueWarrior1


    Yea i have a sin that would agree with u.
    http://na.aiononline.com/livestatus/character-legion/search?charID=34616&serverID=10
    Damn hes only got 3k+ kills and over 100k ap.
     
    /Sarcasm off
     
    found the thread for you. Never said that was my sin. i Said i have a sin that would agree with him. If you mistakenly thought it was mine it is not. I am Elyos on that server so how can i have a asmo sin? Go fail somewhere else troll.
     
    Thats why you need to hide behind a new username.

     

    You just said you havent logged in these forums in 2-3 months. What happened to those claims? And I'm the one trolling? Yeah, okay lol.

    You didnt say "I know a sin". You said "I have a sin".

    O man i made 2 posts whoopdy doo. Im done argueing with you. Your goin completely off subject here. You went from that being my sin to now me not logging on. Your a moron. please delete your account and make a new one to flame someone else.

     

    The subject of this topic is your account getting deleted. Which leads to the evidence that supports the fact that you are lying.

    First piece of evidence is your mentioning "I have a sin" and linking that character.

    Second piece of evidence is you claiming you havent logged on in 2-3 months, when your posting history shows you under a month old.

    Third piece of evidence is attempting to misdirect the evidence by calling me names and pointing to how many posts I have.

    It's all on the subject. The only one posting anything off subject and making any personal attacks has been you.

    Does the jury have any comments?

     

    Ill wait you out its almost time for you to go to bed. FYI never did i say thats MY sin Your just bored and tryin to stir some people up.

     

    Darkfalls so revolutionary it uninstalls itself.

  • twiggy550twiggy550 Member UncommonPosts: 492

     Oooo I must be just in time for Law and Order! I didn't know they did premieres in specific forums... but hey who cares!

    /popcorn

    "IRL is a pretty upstanding MMO with thousands of classes, a lot of PvP and even some pretty unique emotes and titles you can acquire. Explore that world first, then we'll talk about this virtual one."

  • SporeDotSporeDot Member Posts: 66
    Originally posted by TrueWarrior1

    Originally posted by SporeDot

    Originally posted by TrueWarrior1

    Originally posted by SporeDot

    Originally posted by TrueWarrior1


    Yea i have a sin that would agree with u.
    http://na.aiononline.com/livestatus/character-legion/search?charID=34616&serverID=10
    Damn hes only got 3k+ kills and over 100k ap.
     
    /Sarcasm off
     
    found the thread for you. Never said that was my sin. i Said i have a sin that would agree with him. If you mistakenly thought it was mine it is not. I am Elyos on that server so how can i have a asmo sin? Go fail somewhere else troll.
     
    Thats why you need to hide behind a new username.

     

    You just said you havent logged in these forums in 2-3 months. What happened to those claims? And I'm the one trolling? Yeah, okay lol.

    You didnt say "I know a sin". You said "I have a sin".

    O man i made 2 posts whoopdy doo. Im done argueing with you. Your goin completely off subject here. You went from that being my sin to now me not logging on. Your a moron. please delete your account and make a new one to flame someone else.

     

    The subject of this topic is your account getting deleted. Which leads to the evidence that supports the fact that you are lying.

    First piece of evidence is your mentioning "I have a sin" and linking that character.

    Second piece of evidence is you claiming you havent logged on in 2-3 months, when your posting history shows you under a month old.

    Third piece of evidence is attempting to misdirect the evidence by calling me names and pointing to how many posts I have.

    It's all on the subject. The only one posting anything off subject and making any personal attacks has been you.

    Does the jury have any comments?

     

    Ill wait you out its almost time for you to go to bed. FYI never did i say thats MY sin Your just bored and tryin to stir some people up.

     

     

    "I have a sin" is of course interpreted as YOUR sin. If that was mis-spoken, that is your bad, not mine, it's worthless to displace the blame on to me.

    But, claims that you have not been on in months could NOT be mis-interpreted. Blatant lie.

    I dont care about stirring anyone up, I just do not have very much respect for liars. I won't hesitate to call one out when things dont quite add up.

  • TrueWarrior1TrueWarrior1 Member Posts: 154
    Originally posted by SporeDot

    Originally posted by TrueWarrior1

    Originally posted by SporeDot

    Originally posted by TrueWarrior1

    Originally posted by SporeDot

    Originally posted by TrueWarrior1


    Yea i have a sin that would agree with u.
    http://na.aiononline.com/livestatus/character-legion/search?charID=34616&serverID=10
    Damn hes only got 3k+ kills and over 100k ap.
     
    /Sarcasm off
     
    found the thread for you. Never said that was my sin. i Said i have a sin that would agree with him. If you mistakenly thought it was mine it is not. I am Elyos on that server so how can i have a asmo sin? Go fail somewhere else troll.
     
    Thats why you need to hide behind a new username.

     

    You just said you havent logged in these forums in 2-3 months. What happened to those claims? And I'm the one trolling? Yeah, okay lol.

    You didnt say "I know a sin". You said "I have a sin".

    O man i made 2 posts whoopdy doo. Im done argueing with you. Your goin completely off subject here. You went from that being my sin to now me not logging on. Your a moron. please delete your account and make a new one to flame someone else.

     

    The subject of this topic is your account getting deleted. Which leads to the evidence that supports the fact that you are lying.

    First piece of evidence is your mentioning "I have a sin" and linking that character.

    Second piece of evidence is you claiming you havent logged on in 2-3 months, when your posting history shows you under a month old.

    Third piece of evidence is attempting to misdirect the evidence by calling me names and pointing to how many posts I have.

    It's all on the subject. The only one posting anything off subject and making any personal attacks has been you.

    Does the jury have any comments?

     

    Ill wait you out its almost time for you to go to bed. FYI never did i say thats MY sin Your just bored and tryin to stir some people up.

     

     

    "I have a sin" is of course interpreted as YOUR sin. If that was mis-spoken, that is your bad, not mine, it's worthless to displace the blame on to me.

    But, claims that you have not been on in months could NOT be mis-interpreted. Blatant lie, AKA Perjury.

    I dont care about stirring anyone up, I just do not have very much respect for liars. I won't hesitate to call one out when things dont quite add up.

     

    Question for you what did u do on the 23rd 2 months ago? Do you remember exactly? Is your memory that good? FYI im not lieing no reason to why would i lie. Ive come to peace im not gettin my account back. Im just warning people what NCSoft is doing. Do a little research and you will see im not the only one who was banned for this 3rd party software abuse. When they NEVER used 3rd party software. I bet your someone who believes all Judges and DAs are right and that everyone in jail did it. That people like that cant make mistakes.

     

    That is why you are a moron. Because in you eyes the higher ups (in this case NCSoft) cant make a mistake. What does me forgetting i made 2 posts in a 2-3 months span have anything to do about me lieing about this? Absolutely nothing. So move on i destroyed you with logic. Go ahead and hide behind your just made username. Because you are to scared to show who you really are. If your this much of a coward on the internet i can only imagine how much of a coward you are in RL. And before you stat on im a big mofo and i whoop ass dont start because everyone on the internet is 7 foot 11 inches and benches 500 pounds.

    Darkfalls so revolutionary it uninstalls itself.

  • glofishglofish Member UncommonPosts: 346
    Originally posted by TrueWarrior1 
    FYI never did i say thats MY sin Your just bored and tryin to stir some people up.
     

     

    A sentence that starts with "I have a warrior that ..." means that it is your character. This is its common interpretation, is there anyone here who thinks that "I have a warrior" means that "someone else owns this  character"? I have a hard time believing that you have mispoken.  But maybe you did.

     

    But then you may have also thought that AionBot was just another helper application...

     

  • SporeDotSporeDot Member Posts: 66
    Originally posted by TrueWarrior1

    Originally posted by SporeDot

    Originally posted by TrueWarrior1

    Originally posted by SporeDot

    Originally posted by TrueWarrior1

    Originally posted by SporeDot

    Originally posted by TrueWarrior1


    Yea i have a sin that would agree with u.
    http://na.aiononline.com/livestatus/character-legion/search?charID=34616&serverID=10
    Damn hes only got 3k+ kills and over 100k ap.
     
    /Sarcasm off
     
    found the thread for you. Never said that was my sin. i Said i have a sin that would agree with him. If you mistakenly thought it was mine it is not. I am Elyos on that server so how can i have a asmo sin? Go fail somewhere else troll.
     
    Thats why you need to hide behind a new username.

     

    You just said you havent logged in these forums in 2-3 months. What happened to those claims? And I'm the one trolling? Yeah, okay lol.

    You didnt say "I know a sin". You said "I have a sin".

    O man i made 2 posts whoopdy doo. Im done argueing with you. Your goin completely off subject here. You went from that being my sin to now me not logging on. Your a moron. please delete your account and make a new one to flame someone else.

     

    The subject of this topic is your account getting deleted. Which leads to the evidence that supports the fact that you are lying.

    First piece of evidence is your mentioning "I have a sin" and linking that character.

    Second piece of evidence is you claiming you havent logged on in 2-3 months, when your posting history shows you under a month old.

    Third piece of evidence is attempting to misdirect the evidence by calling me names and pointing to how many posts I have.

    It's all on the subject. The only one posting anything off subject and making any personal attacks has been you.

    Does the jury have any comments?

     

    Ill wait you out its almost time for you to go to bed. FYI never did i say thats MY sin Your just bored and tryin to stir some people up.

     

     

    "I have a sin" is of course interpreted as YOUR sin. If that was mis-spoken, that is your bad, not mine, it's worthless to displace the blame on to me.

    But, claims that you have not been on in months could NOT be mis-interpreted. Blatant lie, AKA Perjury.

    I dont care about stirring anyone up, I just do not have very much respect for liars. I won't hesitate to call one out when things dont quite add up.

     

    Question for you what did u do on the 23rd 2 months ago? Do you remember exactly? Is your memory that good? FYI im not lieing no reason to why would i lie. Ive come to peace im not gettin my account back. Im just warning people what NCSoft is doing. Do a little research and you will see im not the only one who was banned for this 3rd party software abuse. When they NEVER used 3rd party software. I bet your someone who believes all Judges and DAs are right and that everyone in jail did it. That people like that cant make mistakes.

     

    That is why you are a moron. Because in you eyes the higher ups (in this case NCSoft) cant make a mistake. What does me forgetting i made 2 posts in a 2-3 months span have anything to do about me lieing about this? Absolutely nothing. So move on i destroyed you with logic. Go ahead and hide behind your just made username. Because you are to scared to show who you really are. If your this much of a coward on the internet i can only imagine how much of a coward you are in RL. And before you stat on im a big mofo and i whoop ass dont start because everyone on the internet is 7 foot 11 inches and benches 500 pounds.

     

    I never said NCSoft is always right.

    I said that judging by your comments, I doubt you are telling the truth.

    You destroyed me with logic? By claiming I misinterpreted you saying "I have a sin"? By telling me to check your post history because you havent been on in 2-3 months when you were on in less then 1? 

    Come on now.

  • Night_HawkeNight_Hawke Member Posts: 41
    Originally posted by TrueWarrior1


    So i login to my game of choice yesterday morning to pick up where i have left off with my crafting to a screen tellin me my account is unable to login. So i then check my account to see if there is something up with billing, and to my surprise i see in big red caps BANNED..... So i checked my emails. Not 1 email from NCSoft to explain why this has happend. I had to call them wait on hold for 45 mins just for the lady on the phone to tell me she has no control and cant tell me why i was banned only that i was banned, and that she will put an email in for me for the GMs to tell me why.
     
    I wait 30 hours and receive an email that i was banned for using 3rd party software.... This is complete and utter BS. I have not used any bot software in this game. I am a very active person in the game ALWAYS talk and very well known in my ranger chat. I also have 1.2k+ pvp kills with 40k+ ap. Im very fed up with the whole way this is being handled and how im being told that my account will not be reactivated. I sent an email back explaining this. But i highly doubt a GM will contact any in game or in ranger chat to see that everytime im ingame im fcking talking. Sorry for the rant but i had to vent as alot of time/money went into this account ($60 CE + 3 months play time) all down the drain because a few people at NCSoft got ban happy. I will completely boycott NCSoft if my account is not reactivated as i am a longtime NCSoft game player. (Lineage Lineage2 GW Exteel and now Aion)
     

     

    i got banned from AION for nothing as well. When i took it to the CS and GM's they told me 3rd party apps (which i was not using) and said i was banned and would not be reactivated. When i pressed further they locked me out of the Customer support system entirely. I'm done with NCSoft forever, won't look at any new game or GW2.

  • TrueWarrior1TrueWarrior1 Member Posts: 154
    Originally posted by glofish

    Originally posted by TrueWarrior1 
    FYI never did i say thats MY sin Your just bored and tryin to stir some people up.
     

     

    A sentence that starts with "I have a warrior that ..." means that it is your character. This is its common interpretation, is there anyone here who thinks that "I have a warrior" means that "someone else owns this  character"? I have a hard time believing that you have mispoken.  But maybe you did.

     

    But then you may have also thought that AionBot was just another helper application...

     

     

    I mispoke jesus christ like no one else did. Guess your all missing the main point If that was my sin which is a ASMO how could the character im talkin about be ELYOS now i see why i stopped  posting here. Cause alls people wanna do is start sht, and try to stir each other up.

    Darkfalls so revolutionary it uninstalls itself.

  • TrueWarrior1TrueWarrior1 Member Posts: 154
    Originally posted by Night_Hawke

    Originally posted by TrueWarrior1


    So i login to my game of choice yesterday morning to pick up where i have left off with my crafting to a screen tellin me my account is unable to login. So i then check my account to see if there is something up with billing, and to my surprise i see in big red caps BANNED..... So i checked my emails. Not 1 email from NCSoft to explain why this has happend. I had to call them wait on hold for 45 mins just for the lady on the phone to tell me she has no control and cant tell me why i was banned only that i was banned, and that she will put an email in for me for the GMs to tell me why.
     
    I wait 30 hours and receive an email that i was banned for using 3rd party software.... This is complete and utter BS. I have not used any bot software in this game. I am a very active person in the game ALWAYS talk and very well known in my ranger chat. I also have 1.2k+ pvp kills with 40k+ ap. Im very fed up with the whole way this is being handled and how im being told that my account will not be reactivated. I sent an email back explaining this. But i highly doubt a GM will contact any in game or in ranger chat to see that everytime im ingame im fcking talking. Sorry for the rant but i had to vent as alot of time/money went into this account ($60 CE + 3 months play time) all down the drain because a few people at NCSoft got ban happy. I will completely boycott NCSoft if my account is not reactivated as i am a longtime NCSoft game player. (Lineage Lineage2 GW Exteel and now Aion)
     

     

    i got banned from AION for nothing as well. When i took it to the CS and GM's they told me 3rd party apps (which i was not using) and said i was banned and would not be reactivated. When i pressed further they locked me out of the Customer support system entirely. I'm done with NCSoft forever, won't look at any new game or GW2.

     

    Careful there all goin to say yuour lying. Because all the children are still on because mommy and daddy didnt tell them to go to bed yet.

    Darkfalls so revolutionary it uninstalls itself.

  • glofishglofish Member UncommonPosts: 346
    Originally posted by TrueWarrior1



    Do a little research and you will see im not the only one who was banned for this 3rd party software abuse. When they NEVER used 3rd party software. 





    Yup just like in prison. Everyone is innocent. Can you believe that, how unfair ...
     
    Go ahead and hide behind your just made username.  ... And before you stat on im a big mofo and i whoop ass



    Hahahaha! Now we got you. Either a troll or a botter. Liar either way. No sane and reasonable person would invoke with physical violence. 
     
    ENOJOY YOUR BAN DUDE! Hehe!

     

     

  • TrueWarrior1TrueWarrior1 Member Posts: 154
    Originally posted by glofish

    Originally posted by TrueWarrior1



    Do a little research and you will see im not the only one who was banned for this 3rd party software abuse. When they NEVER used 3rd party software. 





    Yup just like in prison. Everyone is innocent. Can you believe that, how unfair ...
     
    Go ahead and hide behind your just made username.  ... And before you stat on im a big mofo and i whoop ass



    Hahahaha! Now we got you. Either a troll or a botter. Liar either way. No sane and reasonable person would invoke with physical violence. 
     
    ENOJOY YOUR BAN DUDE! Hehe!

     

     

     

    Didnt start on physical violence LRN2READ.

    Darkfalls so revolutionary it uninstalls itself.

  • glofishglofish Member UncommonPosts: 346
    Originally posted by Night_Hawke 
    i got banned from AION for nothing as well. When i took it to the CS and GM's they told me 3rd party apps (which i was not using) and said i was banned and would not be reactivated. When i pressed further they locked me out of the Customer support system entirely. I'm done with NCSoft forever, won't look at any new game or GW2.

     

    Ohhh another innocent soul. Please come to me child! Cry on my shoulder. NCSoft will surely go bust without another botter in their midst.

    Let me put some music on for you:

    /violin

  • WraithoneWraithone Member RarePosts: 3,806
    Originally posted by Vyava


    I take all improper banning complaints with a hefty serving of salt in general and this complaint is no exception, but the lack of communication that your account was banned is disconcerting. No matter if the ban was valid or not it is their responsibility to inform their customer that they have taken an action against you.
    If they are going to claim a TOS violation then they need to state it outright and stand behind the decision. 

     

    This is pretty much SOP for NCsoft. They let the bots run wild for months and months, and then after endless player complaints(and the potential of declining subs) they start wildly swinging the ban hammer around.  Its no surprise that some innocent people get caught in the back splash. Then in typical NCsoft fashion, they give out cut and paste responses(if they bother to respond at all).  The sheer arrogance of their perspective has always amused and amazed me. Even Blizzard isn't nearly that bad, and they make a LOT more money than NCsoft ever will.  To the OP, I'm sorry to hear about your plight guy, but unless you happen to be one of the VERY lucky few, your account is gone for good.  Sadly, the only real recourse you have is to find another game.

    "If you can't kill it, don't make it mad."
  • WraithoneWraithone Member RarePosts: 3,806
    Originally posted by glofish

    Originally posted by Night_Hawke 
    i got banned from AION for nothing as well. When i took it to the CS and GM's they told me 3rd party apps (which i was not using) and said i was banned and would not be reactivated. When i pressed further they locked me out of the Customer support system entirely. I'm done with NCSoft forever, won't look at any new game or GW2.

     

    Ohhh another innocent soul. Please come to me child! Cry on my shoulder. NCSoft will surely go bust without another botter in their midst.

    Let me put some music on for you:

    /violin

     

    And you *KNOW* they are guilty, how?  Given NCsofts past history, its not at all surprising that their MUCH belated wild swings of the ban hammer, might hit some innocent people.  Unless you are the same type of person who believes what ever government tells you, I'd hold such actions by the likes of NCsoft suspect until proven other wise.

    "If you can't kill it, don't make it mad."
  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332
    Originally posted by TrueWarrior1


    So i login to my game of choice yesterday morning to pick up where i have left off with my crafting to a screen tellin me my account is unable to login. So i then check my account to see if there is something up with billing, and to my surprise i see in big red caps BANNED..... So i checked my emails. Not 1 email from NCSoft to explain why this has happend. I had to call them wait on hold for 45 mins just for the lady on the phone to tell me she has no control and cant tell me why i was banned only that i was banned, and that she will put an email in for me for the GMs to tell me why.
     
    I wait 30 hours and receive an email that i was banned for using 3rd party software.... This is complete and utter BS. I have not used any bot software in this game. I am a very active person in the game ALWAYS talk and very well known in my ranger chat. I also have 1.2k+ pvp kills with 40k+ ap. Im very fed up with the whole way this is being handled and how im being told that my account will not be reactivated. I sent an email back explaining this. But i highly doubt a GM will contact any in game or in ranger chat to see that everytime im ingame im fcking talking. Sorry for the rant but i had to vent as alot of time/money went into this account ($60 CE + 3 months play time) all down the drain because a few people at NCSoft got ban happy. I will completely boycott NCSoft if my account is not reactivated as i am a longtime NCSoft game player. (Lineage Lineage2 GW Exteel and now Aion)
     

    I am not sure who is worse the developer or the OP.After being treated like this,the OP would greet them back with open arms,just because he is worried about a virtual player,very sad.

    I have been saying for a long time what a garbage developer NCSOFT is,people do not get it,they are either dumb or blind.

    I already pointed out how 50k bans are mathematically impossible during the time frame,they either have to do an incomplete investigation or they are outright lying about the numbers.Either situation points to a VERY shotty developer that should NOT be trusted.

    I would rather watch a Toronto Raptors game re run than support NCSOFT.

    Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.

  • glofishglofish Member UncommonPosts: 346
    Originally posted by Wizardry 
    I already pointed out how 50k bans are mathematically impossible

     

    Hahaha! What you are implying here is that in mathematics the number 50,000 is somehow impossible. Good job!



    umm NOT!

     

  • EmeraqEmeraq Member UncommonPosts: 1,063

    Can we get a lockdown here?

  • twiggy550twiggy550 Member UncommonPosts: 492
    Originally posted by Emeraq


    Can we get a lockdown here?

     

    A thousand times this

    "IRL is a pretty upstanding MMO with thousands of classes, a lot of PvP and even some pretty unique emotes and titles you can acquire. Explore that world first, then we'll talk about this virtual one."

  • WraithoneWraithone Member RarePosts: 3,806
    Originally posted by Emeraq


    Can we get a lockdown here?

     

    Why would one be required? I've not seen anything that would warrant that type of response in the posts I've read. Besides, this site isn't hosted by NCsoft...

    "If you can't kill it, don't make it mad."
  • veego590veego590 Member Posts: 39

    Oh man. I feel for you. Like I'm not kidding I JUST made a thread about this. The EXACT same thing happened to me. I'm glad NCsoft is taking care of this "bot" problem but seriously they have to get their shit straight. If they're banning innocent people then they have a problem.

  • TrueWarrior1TrueWarrior1 Member Posts: 154

    Thanks everyone for the support im looking for another game. And to all the people that are saying thats my ASMO sin if i had 2 accounts i wouldnt be here worried about 1 gettin banned especially if my BETTER account didnt get banned. Please use your head its NOT my sin i play elyos thats a asmo sin....

     

    As for another game i guess ill try to give eve another shit since its really the only PvP game i havent given a full chance.

    Darkfalls so revolutionary it uninstalls itself.

  • FalfeirFalfeir Member UncommonPosts: 492

    nice to see NCsoft at work.

    I dont believe OP is innocent. I thought he was when i started reading the thread but not now.

    I hope ncsoft doesnt stop bot hunting because of the whine.

    I need more vespene gas.

  • rwmillerrwmiller Member Posts: 472

    There are very few people banned that didn't do something wrong and NCSoft isn't going to give out details about how they detected the individual since that will just help the botters and RMTers to adjust their programs to avoid detection in the future.

    In this case it is highly doubtful that the OP is anything but a botter/RMTer caught and now trying to get his little money maker back online.

    Good job NCSoft.

  • rwmillerrwmiller Member Posts: 472

    Interesting. First people say that NCSoft won't do anything about the botters and now they say either they are banning innocent people or that banning 50k accounts is impossible. Interesting when Eve or WoW annouces that they have banned thousands of accounts no one seems to bat an eye.

    Detecting people that do the same thing over and over for days is pretty easy to automate. Is it possible that an automated system will catch someone innocent? Sure, if you can sit at a keyboard hitting the exact same key sequence for hours and hours and hours. And if that is how you are playing the game you should be banned just to protect your mental health.

    The problem for innocent people will be that the guilty will also claim to be innocent and unless there is a pretty obvious mistake made in the detection phase it won't be possible to tell the liars from the innocent.

    And the game is noticeably reduced in bots and kinah vendors so personally I think that NCSoft has taken a major step in the right direction.

  • TrueWarrior1TrueWarrior1 Member Posts: 154
    Originally posted by Falfeir


    nice to see NCsoft at work.
    I dont believe OP is innocent. I thought he was when i started reading the thread but not now.
    I hope ncsoft doesnt stop bot hunting because of the whine.

     

    Dont really care what you think. I no i did nothing wrong. And you think im lying cause some troll is twisting my words? GG for you. You prolly thought OJ and MJ really are innocent the way their lawyers twisted the truth.

     

    Originally posted by rwmiller

    There are very few people banned that didn't do something wrong and NCSoft isn't going to give out details about how they detected the individual since that will just help the botters and RMTers to adjust their programs to avoid detection in the future.

    In this case it is highly doubtful that the OP is anything but a botter/RMTer caught and now trying to get his little money maker back online.

    Good job NCSoft.

    Yup you caught me wait? If i was buying bots and RMTing wouldnt that be costing me money? Hrmm its ok the circle goes in the square hole for you. Keep trying you ll get it in there one day. Also really dont think a REAL botter/RMTer would really care if they got banned and i highly doubt they would call NCSoft. They would just take another stolen CC and continue on their way makin a new character. Use your logic before you speak. Also if im a botter did i set up a computer program to talk for me while in vent? How about to hold a conversation in Region chat or Class chat? I must be an awesome script writer to be able to make a bot that can hold a conversation with someone.

    Darkfalls so revolutionary it uninstalls itself.

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