Howdy, Stranger!
It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!
Quick Links
Mortal Online or Cleptomania Online?????
murray99
Member Posts: 4
The newest update of MO´s developers added a quite new feature - thievery. Although crafting hasn´t been implemented yet, taming is horribly bugged and quite a lot of terrain is still missing (the capital, for example), Star Vault has allocated its resources to thievery. Currently, every village is plagued by naked thieves who steal anything - your gear, the raw materials you need to replace your stolen gear and anything you try to take from or put into the bank. Since banks in villages are (actually, were) the only safe places for storage (unless you managed to build a house) this is a major drawback.
With this update more than your stuff has been stolen: the fun of playing this hitherto promising beta is gone. Now the game is dominated by exhibitionistic cleptomaniac griefers. If you like to run around naked while stealing or if you are incurably masochistic then you should try out this massively cleptomaniac online game. Otherwise, stay away from it.
Comments
explanation of BETA:
testing and trying out of diffrent things, technics and gameplay.
its NOT playing the game, and having fun!
They just rolled out a new feature that everyone knew about before beta started. Of course there are tons of people running around stealing, its a new feature that they expect us to test, cause its beta and we're testers. Us testing this feature gives them the necessary information to properly balance it.
If you dont want to beta test a game that is in beta then you should probrably wait until release otherwise help test instead fo nerdraging because someone else is testing a feature that you dont like.
test
My sig is just as logical as your posts are
I disagree. Of course it is about testing, but if testing yields no fun at all any more, how can you possibly expect the finished game to be fun? Besides, testing WAS fun before this update. It was a really promising beta. Now it´s just annoying.
And I do not understand Star Vault´s policy. There are so many things left unfinished which would add to depth AND fun but the company concentrates on implementing a feature which is actually driving players away (believe me, I am not the only one).
Moreover, SV charges money for testing the beta so they better offer something valuable in exchange.
Let me rephrase this: At this stage, beta testing MO is annoying for quite a lot of people (not only me). I personally recommend not to join beta testing at the moment. Have fun anywhere else and let Star Vault say goodbye to their cash flow, because they charge you for beta testing.
Of course thievery is annoying, its thievery. No one ever thinks about how awesome it is to have things stolen from them.
You need to understand how things work. Things get done when they get done. Thievery was done before something else was so they released it.
You should read up a bit more on MO, thievery was always a feature so they arent "implementing a feature which is driving people away". Thievery also needs to be tested, so when the game releases it will be fun and balanced.
SV doesnt charge money for people to "test the game" they charge money for the released game. That is what you paid for you pre-purchased the released version of the game. Beta acess is an additional bonus, you dont have to beta test. Also you do realize that your character can and will be wiped. So why are you in such an upset over loosing some items when you will loose your character before release?
Iw as in block A and have made characters in every build, do you even want to know how many of my characters are gone?
They will offer something valuable for your money, when the game releases all of the testing that si being done now wil ensure that the released version fo the game is as balanced and bug-free as it can be. Remember you did pay for the released version, hence why its called a pre-release. Not early acess.
My sig is just as logical as your posts are
Well actually, it is not about losing some stuff, but all of it. And how do you try something out - except thievery - if your gear is stolen and you cannot replace it, because the raw material is stolen before you even get to the refiner and the rest disappears on your way to the smith? With this perfectly imbalanced feature implemented there are no options left than either taking part or logging off.
And formally they do not charge for beta testing, that´s right. But I am no lawyer.
lol that Game sounds Silly.
It is expected that a new feature can totally screw up the game, that is why you test it in a beta. Just write in your opinion and how you would like to change it on the forum, that is your mission when you do a beta.
Just complaining or quiting isn't the right way hen a feature screw things up for you, you are doing the beta to test these things and if you just quit and nobody complains the game will be broken.
Beta testing can be fun at times but not all the time and it isn't supposed to be. It is supposed to make the game as fun as possible after the balancing which isn't done yet.
So relax and do your job, let SV do their and hopefully will the game be good at launch. Being able to pickpocket someone is a cool feat but it should be hard, and risky you shouldn't be able to rob someone blind. You should have a chance to discover the thief and if you can't catch him, report him to the city guards. And some stuff should be impossible to steal like pants.
Thieving = buggy and needs testing.
Why are you complaining about a feature that needs testing and is being tested in a beta test? Maybe consider helping test the newest feature instead of trying to play like its release.
Thieving doesnt prevent anyone from testing any other features. I have no problems crafting gear and banking in town. Simple awareness combats thievery as is.
My sig is just as logical as your posts are
i have never played this game, but i lol'd so hard at this i almost wet myself. thanks for the sunday morning entertainment.
i have never played this game, but i lol'd so hard at this i almost wet myself. thanks for the sunday morning entertainment.
Thieves cant steal equipped items, Op is exagerating cause he got tested on.
My sig is just as logical as your posts are
Personally, I would have thought all the features at least are in place before beta testing begins. Beta tests are usually for tweaking and balancing stuff. If they are releasing the game before the end of this year, I think it's a bit late to be implementing new features...? or am I way off?
I havtn laughed so much in ages, lol. This is the funniest thing ive read in ages. naked thieves lol:P. I can just imagine it lol.
Hehe, thievery is awesome as it is now :P But it will get restrictions in the next patch, here is the quote from Nystrom:
"This will be added in the next patch to balance thievery.
For people to be able to protect them self against a thief we will add the important changes:
1. Hidden criminal flag, meaning you can allways attack a thief that stole something from you or someone else. The thief will allways have this flag when he steal something, till he dies then the flag resets.
2. Stealing cooldown, it will take longer time to steal again.
3. Difficulties on heavier items, will easier global flag the player, meaning guards or anyone can deal with him instantly."
Thievery will work as it did in UO. It's amazing new feature for burglars, assasins and thieves
You can burn me, but i wont die.
Way off, beta is for testing new features and balancing them. Alpha is for setting the foundations of the game.
Beta itself has several phases of completeness.
Most companies use the beta as a marketing tool so they onoly allow people to test it when it is in its absolute last phase. SV has stated that they dont see there beta as a marketign tool or a buggy demo, but that it will be most fo the beta process that we dotn get to see in normal games.
My sig is just as logical as your posts are
Way off, beta is for testing new features and balancing them. Alpha is for setting the foundations of the game.
Beta itself has several phases of completeness.
Most companies use the beta as a marketing tool so they onoly allow people to test it when it is in its absolute last phase. SV has stated that they dont see there beta as a marketign tool or a buggy demo, but that it will be most fo the beta process that we dotn get to see in normal games.
Ok. that isn't how beta works at my job, but maybe SV has invented their own meaning for beta. It is not sound to release something to potential customers that doesn't show the complete experience. It's ok if content is missing and will be added during the beta phase, but features.. I wouldn't do it.
A beta is the first thing potential players will see, it is marketing no matter how you slice it. You WILL lose players if it's a bad experience.
LOL
Question...
Where do naked thieves stash their loot?
Thievery doesn't translate well as a MMO mechanic. Its best to just leave thievery at the loot bags after a kill, or the more scheming type ( scams ). Stealing out of a persons house when they are gone is another acceptable form.
Way off, beta is for testing new features and balancing them. Alpha is for setting the foundations of the game.
Beta itself has several phases of completeness.
Most companies use the beta as a marketing tool so they onoly allow people to test it when it is in its absolute last phase. SV has stated that they dont see there beta as a marketign tool or a buggy demo, but that it will be most fo the beta process that we dotn get to see in normal games.
Wrong closed betacan last for years as is the ace for Toc, aoc and warhammer, i was in toc beta for 2 years, warhammer for 1.5+ years and aoc beta for 1+ year, along with variuos other games. They sure as hell didnt allow people into the early warhammer or aoc closed betas to show the last phase of the game. If it was the last phase warhammer wouldnt even have castles in the opne world atm. No way in hell does closed beta shopw the last phases of the game, closed beta can go through variuos stages, and once that is finished, open beta is the marketing tool.
Is it that easy to steal something? They just run up to you and poof there goes your armour? Theres a reason they test it, and it will be fixed if that is the case.
You are wrong. The classic betas are testing features for a long time before a game releases to find bugs. This has been done for many years even though some companies have instead used betas as some kind of marketing trick. Adding more features when you have the old ones balanced makes it a lot easier than to let people try the game with all features totally unbalanced and buggy.
However are you right that SV is in trouble if they actually releases the game this year, to me it sounds like release are still 6 months away unless they plan to make another Vanguard.
Well, this this kind of beta is probably something MMO developers do then. Because at my company we would never release a beta (even to a select number of people IE closed beta) before all the major features are implemented and working. Beta should be used to track down bugs and tweak/balance things. How can the testers track down bugs in features that do not even exist yet? Feels like they only do the closed beta to stall and keep players interested while they continue working. And if that is so, then it really is a kind of marketing tool too. I'm saying this in general, not directed against SV alone. I mean, being in beta for years... That's just insane. The game is not ready for beta if there is years of development still left. The game should be feature complete when entering beta.
MANNNNN, now I gotta log in and steal some shit! Oh well, time to patch anyhow I guess lol
Hmm.. The only time that thieving is a problem is when not in a red town. Blue towns where there are guards really suck right now cause there are a lot of people running around naked having nothing to lose stealing from people while they craft and put stuff in the bank. However in red towns this is none existent as in a red town you can simply just kill the person.
So if you have problems with the thievery system just leave the blue towns and actually explore the world. Go to red towns and be happy. That is what I am doing and enjoying it.
Way off, beta is for testing new features and balancing them. Alpha is for setting the foundations of the game.
Beta itself has several phases of completeness.
Most companies use the beta as a marketing tool so they onoly allow people to test it when it is in its absolute last phase. SV has stated that they dont see there beta as a marketign tool or a buggy demo, but that it will be most fo the beta process that we dotn get to see in normal games.
Wrong closed betacan last for years as is the ace for Toc, aoc and warhammer, i was in toc beta for 2 years, warhammer for 1.5+ years and aoc beta for 1+ year, along with variuos other games. They sure as hell didnt allow people into the early warhammer or aoc closed betas to show the last phase of the game. If it was the last phase warhammer wouldnt even have castles in the opne world atm. No way in hell does closed beta shopw the last phases of the game, closed beta can go through variuos stages, and once that is finished, open beta is the marketing tool.
Mo is in closed beta. So i dont get why you are disagreeing with me. I have been in closed beta for half a year already.
Most people think that the entire beta process is what they see in open beta because alot of companies hide the messy part. Sv has chosen to be transparent witht he messy part and now people are nerdraging.
My sig is just as logical as your posts are