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ok so i posted on here a few days ago asking for a decent game with pvp that has rewards, like Honor points and being able to spend them on new gear, skills, whatever. a lot of people are telling me Guild wars, but so far no one has been able to tell me exactly what the pvp is about. Is it random world pvp, battlegrounds, arena? and if i participate, will i get anything in return? i want something that will put a smile on my face if i can fight and fight and work my way up to this awesome rewards that has benefits, such as a decent weapon i can use in other parts of the game. what i do NOT want is to fight and fight and have an in game message go 'congratulations, you have reached -------- rank, revel in the fact that you do not suck' i need a reason to participate in pvp besides 'because you get to kill other people, why else would you fight em?' thanks
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EVE, Darkfall have full loot on death. No stupid points or ladder system. You won - you get loot, you loose - well, suck to be you. Check them out if you want meaningful PvP.
actually thats kinda what im looking for. the whole points thing, without points or an actual reason to join in pvp, then THAT would be stupid. why would i want to loot something somebody worked hard for? it really doesnt make sense at all. WoW perfected it with the Honor and Marks, but also ruined it with it being P2P. I know this might not be what some people want to read, but thats why it is an opinion. Meaningful PVP isnt about killing someone and then taking their items, its about earning your own, to me anyway
So you are looking for a game with rewards for winning and no penalty while loosing. What's the fun in wining when you can't loose? Anyway, stay away from EVE and Darkfall. They are not games for you.
lol at saying you want meaning ful pvp. But then saying you dont.
Arena and battlegrounds will always be congrats you reached blah blah rank, revel in the fact that you do not suck. It will either be by a item or a displayable rank.
World pvp doesnt happen because people usually want a "reward" for fighting, what happen to fighting just because you followed the lore.
Anyway EVE and Darkfall both have meaningful pvp with benefits for winning and penalties for losing.
it seems to me that you truly do not understand what i am saying. i, and i believe maybe a few, just a few, others, play the games for the game, not the lore. and i never said anything about world pvp specifically, just pvp all around, and i don't remember WoW, or Runescape's pvp being about the lore, or being all about the rank, so what's this 'always' crap? i seem to remember gaining points and marks in arena and BG's, not just a stupid rank. i may have missed something but i don't seem to remember saying i wanted meaningful pvp, and then turning around on myself like you claim. pvp can be meaningful without full loot and ganking the crap out of other people just because 'you can'. maybe i'm just naive in hoping for a game like this, or at least a decent explanation of what i asked in the first place. what's this about 'what's the fun in winning when you can't lose' i'm lost here, no one said anything about not being able to lose, it's called having to respawn away from the battle, or maybe losing points. like i said before, WoW perfected it, but broke it for me by being P2P, which also means EVE and Darkfall are out, btw i thought EVE sucked. pardon me for being a man of opinion and of specific taste.