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EU 1 dead?
i wanna go play this game, i m new and i readed on some forums that u could tranfser form eu1 to na1 and now is eu1 dead.
What should i do, i live in the netherlands (EU in case u didnt know 
) but i dont wanna play on a dead server so i prefer to play on na 1. is that possible for EU players?
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Anyone can transfer, but I'd advise staying on EU-1. No it isn't dead, even if it were you'd be playing NA-1 during the off peak hours so it'd be equally dead either way.
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
CS Lewis
u play on eu 1 ?
if so can u tell me something about the community and the population during peek and off times
I play on EU 1.
Popuation could be better. Most people leave noob areas fairly quickly and join clans in clan warfare.
But sometimes there is a lot of people in the noob areas : )
I don't play DF,but did they not just start free trials for people in the greece area?I am guessing they would all be on the Euro server would they not?
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
I play on EU (mirdain) and I see 1-2 noobs all the time. Once in 3-4 days a red comes in and starts farming us noobs, so we have to leave the area. So no, EU is not empty.
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
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Well I'm an Ork and at one starter city (there are 3 for each race) there's usually about 5-6 newbies, during off peak times and during the wekk maybe 3 tops at any one time. Sometimes you can play off peak and not see anyone, most of the playerbase have joined clans and are in their clan cities doing stuff. Agon is big also and spreads the playerbase out, both EU-1 and NA-1 need more players that's for sure. I won't lie to you and say "It's doing fine" or "has a healthy playerbase" because that's just not true ATM. Darkfall needs new players, and in fact any FFA PvP game with no safe zones is gonna need new players as most just can't handle being bullied online without a DEV to run to.
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
CS Lewis
I`m on EU1, and we could use 20k new players. The server is not dead if you are in an big clan/alliance, but if you run around solo you`ll think it is.
Do not join a clan without a city on this map.
df.urme.com/map/
Absolutely not.
In fact I am fairly annoyed because recently I came back to the starter cities to train Magic and Archery on easy mobs around the area, but all the spawn spots were taken by newbies.
Couple of months ago there were no one in the starting areas, now it is plenty.
I am not sure this is due to the free trial AV is giving away in Greece, but the population is definetly on the increase.
EU: = 11,963 (Decrease of 20)
NA: = 8,395 (Same)
Total: = 20,358 (Decrease of 20)
i took this from a other topic dec 28 posted
can some one confirm that those numbers are correct than nothing is going to stop me form buying this game.
BTW is there anyone i can help with that 20% refund (better make some one happy when i join anyway:D)?
Those numbers are the totals of the clan counts from these two links:
df.urme.com/index.php
darkfallinfo.com/pmap/index.php
They are only as accurate as the clan leaders made them. Meaning that the members who are inactive must be manually culled from the list. There are known inaccuracies, but it's the only numbers available for DarkFall.
In DF sometimes is better to be and left alone. At least when you are actually trying to figure out how it works. Of course soloing is not the way the game should be played.
I can arrange for a 10 day EU trial so you can form your own opinion without having to spend your money on something you may not like.
I somewhat agree.
Play solo the first two weeks, then join NEW for the next months. After leaving NEW, play solo for a while and do those boring quest. Join a large newbie friendly clan as soon as you feel you can support yourself.
Anyone can transfer, but I'd advise staying on EU-1. No it isn't dead, even if it were you'd be playing NA-1 during the off peak hours so it'd be equally dead either way.
NA-1 isn't dead during offpeak hours because of all the Euros and Aussies that play there.
Bump this thread,
I've just started DF on EU server and i'm wondering whether I should relocate now before I put in too much time here.
People seem to have conflicting oppinions on this, some players are saying that the NA active server pop is double or triple even at the moment and that PvP is easy to come by there. I've started an Ork on EU and I must admit its seldom I see a player around the place. Maybe 3 others in the starter cities max at EU peak time.
I've been hunting at a nearby goblin camp now for 2 days and seen only 1 other red that made me run. I was expecting to be living life on the edge tbh but so far it seems pretty lifeless. Also people in Race alliance chat are saying pop is too low and I that Yssam is dead now (not too knowledgable on the policital side but I presume this was a PvP hotspot).
All in all im troubled since I don't want to waste time on my character if its on the wrong server. Basically wondering whether to either move to NA or just wait for MO.
PS. Dumbest move they ever made making 2 servers imho and those population stats linked earlier are bollocks for reasons others have explained.
Yes, the EU server is dead. There I said it.
We have hardly any sieges, and the only big siege the last two months was 5.jan. We have no battles over sea fortress anymore because they go vulnerable 0200 AM. We have little players left in the large pvp guilds, and none of those get more than 20 players online in a siege. If we are more than 400 pvpers left on EU1 I would be very surprised.
EU: = 11,963 is the number we a boasting. But what we don`t tell you, is that 50% of these players left for US1. Just look at the clans at df.urme.com/index.php. A guild like Ultima Thule with 102 members left for US1, and they are now Ultima Thule Europa with 4 members. Others are LoD with 100 members, Kill Kult 57 members, sinister 50 members, grief with 50 and thousands more. Half of those other guilds doesn`t even excist anymore like Freehold. If the SG in a clan doesn`t remove a clan member, he will stay listed forever.
Soon you will have the fanboys claiming all is fine. Just don`t listen to them, because how would they know. They are PVE players and like to slowly grind their level in a desolate place. I`m in a active "large" pvp clan and we can get 15 players online every evening. The sad thing there is nothing to do. We can raid empty citys and hamlets, and we do. But I thought Darkfall was a pvp mmo and not killing afk crafters and miners. There is nothing massive about Darkfall anymore, and I blame the humoungus grind we have. We bleed new players.
I think Darkfall will die. The new players quit because of the HUGE grind, and we older players quit of boredom. Sad but true.
Thanks for the honesty Hotjazz, you pretty much confirmed what I already knew. Question is, what to do? Free transfers are closed now so either pay to transfer over, ride the storm and hope it picks up.. or quit?
One thing I know if I don't wanna spend dozens of hours in getting my toon PvP competative only for there to be nothing for me to do when I get there.
BTW why didn't your guild transfer over?
I really don`t know what to do or hope for anymore.
I wont transfer to US1 because of the time difference and ping of 200, so I just have to follow the ship down I guess.
You are in luck.
"You can now transfer your character between the EU1 and the NA1 servers for a small charge. You can do this up to once a month.
The charges are as follows:
NA1 to EU1 $14
EU1 to NA1 10 Euro (+19%VAT for EU residents)"
forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php
I'm a noob and play in the noob areas. The game is not dead there. That's all I know. You won't see frantic masses of people trying to finish the next quest the fastest, but you will meet people here and there all the time.
Yes, the EU server is dead. There I said it.
We have hardly any sieges, and the only big siege the last two months was 5.jan. We have no battles over sea fortress anymore because they go vulnerable 0200 AM. We have little players left in the large pvp guilds, and none of those get more than 20 players online in a siege. If we are more than 400 pvpers left on EU1 I would be very surprised.
EU: = 11,963 is the number we a boasting. But what we don`t tell you, is that 50% of these players left for US1. Just look at the clans at df.urme.com/index.php. A guild like Ultima Thule with 102 members left for US1, and they are now Ultima Thule Europa with 4 members. Others are LoD with 100 members, Kill Kult 57 members, sinister 50 members, grief with 50 and thousands more. Half of those other guilds doesn`t even excist anymore like Freehold. If the SG in a clan doesn`t remove a clan member, he will stay listed forever.
Soon you will have the fanboys claiming all is fine. Just don`t listen to them, because how would they know. They are PVE players and like to slowly grind their level in a desolate place. I`m in a active "large" pvp clan and we can get 15 players online every evening. The sad thing there is nothing to do. We can raid empty citys and hamlets, and we do. But I thought Darkfall was a pvp mmo and not killing afk crafters and miners. There is nothing massive about Darkfall anymore, and I blame the humoungus grind we have. We bleed new players.
I think Darkfall will die. The new players quit because of the HUGE grind, and we older players quit of boredom. Sad but true.
Wow, so you tell people to listen to you but not to others? And PvE players don't know anything about the game? And all fanboys are pve players? Seriously..
First of all, from a new players perspective it might always look a bit empty and that has several reasons:
There are 18 different starting villages. Theoretically if 200 new players start the game the exact same moment and spread out evenly it still would only make 11 in average at the same exact location (just to through some statistics out). Not to mention there are several starting monster areas around those newbie villages which again can spread out the starting players. Last but not least, you move out of the starting villages really fast once you are done with your quests there (which only takes a few hours) so the players get even spread out more unless you stick with some newly made friends. Despite this fact I have seen players around all three of the dwarven starting areas at any given time I was online. And it was a mix of newbie players and clanned people. Both in totally low armor and also vet players with mounts and tons of armor.
Then some players might leave immediately and join a clan too = once again less players running around in the (sometimes really huge) starting areas).
Judging from Clan discussion in EU and videos uploaded daily about sieges I don't see the whole: omg no sieges anymore. Also the "xy has won (or lost) the challenge against blabla" messages poping on my screen during my playing hours say exactly the opposite of what you are saying. And yes there are big names in those messages. I know the big clans on EU1.
The current vulnerability timer of the sea fortresses is a bit of a problem though (however that's something they can look into easily I would assume). Despite this - there are several "we captured the seafortresses" thread in the EU forums from the last time they sent vulnerable (11th of january) so just saying outright they are not fought over anymore is wrong too. or at least more due to time and not due to not enough clans interested in doing so.
I also find it funny how you claim to know the numbers of all big clans and how many players they have active at any given time. That's some amazing overview you have there..Not to mention the whole guessing game about the overall population. Most player I see running around are not even in a clan and the numbers you guys throw around are so outdated (due to transfers and due to influx of new players not being in a clan) that they are hardly any proper indication until AV actually releases some numbers.
The whole "is the server dead" question is completely useless. In this game you will always have players saying "Yes it is" and others "no it isnt" based on a lot of personal judgment too. Most of all though - it seems emptier way faster then other games because the world is huge and without zones. You are also not lead a particular path like in other games where you go through the exact same zones the same time as other players.
Every cottage, house and keep spot is taken on the whole server. Every rare ore golem is camped 24/7. On weekend every PvE spot less than 10 mins from our city is taken by us or our allies. These days even fire dragons are camped.
On weekend every village is captured 10 mins after it goes vunerable. On weekdays all villages are also captured pretty quickly.
Sorry - but EU-1 is not a place for PvP clans. They will have their hamlet taken, ship destroyed on maiden voyage, and the only thing left to do for them is raiding empty cities and hamlets.
We've wiped out floor of our city with PvP guilds few times, and they no longer visit us. We won't hunt them - because it's pointless. They don't have anything to be taken from them ...
Cairn is even more dedicated to destroying PvP guilds. They bindstone camp them pretty much every weekend, and wait for their crying on the forums. Pro tip: It's very easy to run away with shield on - and log in / log out every 2 mins until you'll be far away
If you don't want to risk ship, if you don't want to drop a siege, if you don't want to fight for rare ore golem, or ninja-mine from theyril mine, do asset damage, if you don't want to own hamlet / city, if you join large alliance, and try not to provoke other big bad guys (Power Rangers, ANG, REA, Cairn), or compete for sea fortresses or villages - on EU-1 you won't find any action ...
The problem is that if you'll try to compete for really valuable things - you will get more action that you've bargained for - and you'll never do it again.
lol this is my point. Some players say that EU is going down, others disagree and I understand that it's obviously down to what content you actively participate in, but from a new players point of view, its nearly impossible to identify this from just doing the noob stuff and all I can go on is oppinions from people who are actively playing the late-end game.
The above post pretty much agrees that PvP guilds are toast on EU, but you say this as if thats ok. I fail to see how PvP guilds not being viable anymore in DF is a good sign in a game like this. Certainly on the US server people are saying small group PvP is apprantly thriving.
It reminds me of Eve really, As a new player there you had no idea of the stuff that might or might not have been happening in 0.0 space and often the game felt empty. But then you go on and see these massive epic pvp videos of battles and think, why didnt I see that?
So the solution basically is if you want any decent fun on EU server, join a Zerg alliance?
I have been playing on EU-1 for 3 weeks now, and it's always busy (as in PvP) when I am online.
Don't know where you people hang out, but my guess is in the wrong place.
Making the US server was clearly the dumbest thing they could do. And then making you pay twice for it and people falling for it hmm.
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