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5670 vs 5750 vs 5770. GPU upgrade.
hello, im looking to upgrade my current GPU because it brings the rest of my rig down.
im currently running:
Intel core 2 quad @ 2.4GHz
4 x 1gb 660~
ATI 1800xl
2 x 500gb SATA HD.
i was looking at the 5750 and the 5770 and had pretty much decided on the 5770, though more expensive it seemed marginal compared to the performance increase, but now they have released the 5670, which is a budget card, which was my intended plan from the start before i started looking for a new GPU.
I was wondering what sort of performance i should expect from each I guess, and really just some advice over which way I should go, because as far as the info goes, its basically double the price for double the performance in 5670 vs 5770?
and which brand of card would be recommended? the Saphire Vapor-X 5770 was my top candidate before the 5670 came out as I say, so any sort of advice, in the way of LOTRO when Dx11 is implemented, if that helps?
I know im not being very clear, but then again im not exactly sure what im asking or what I want, so im sorry, but any help would be great! Thanks!
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since these are the first generation dx11 graphic card i suggest to go with the ati 5670 since they ll have to get the defect out of the card anyway
stick to the cheapest that give the most .if you buy one at 50 buck but you end up paying 20 for extra wiring (asus begun cutting back on wire the add say for exemple 4 sata cable for mobo but when you open box theres only two so make sure when you buy to ask vendor to open box in front of you!and read the booklet that comes with it to make sure vendor isnt lying
if the asus booklet say 4 your should get 4 sata cable same for graphic card
if its not included take another ati maker
i wont name name here but there only 1 or 2 that go the extra mile for about the same price so its very easy to find ,ity isnt asus and it isnt ati!but the card are ati!
I would go with a 5770 if you want a good dx11 card or 4890/70 if you want best value wont be seing much of anything that requires a dx11 card for a good bit.
w8 for 5830
First off, DX11 IS right around the corner, and it pays to have a DX11 card. Dirt2 for example already has it, and a new STALKER and AvP are both using it. The great thing about DX11 is that it's faster than DX10. The STALKER benchmark is slower in DX10 than DX11, it's a nice feature to have.
On to the cards. The 5670 is a pretty bad card, it performs at or below an 8800gt level. The 5770 on the other hand is equivalent ot the 4870 1GB with DX11 support.
The 5770 is one of the best values for the money out there right now, go for it.
What resolution you at? I'm playing lotro in 1920x1080 everything max on a 5770. I'm sure a 5670 would run it just fine too. IF lotro's DX11 includes tesselation which I HIGHLY doubt, you'd want a 5770. If they use DX11 for just performance increases which is imo 99% likely then 5670 would run it even better in DX11 than DX10.
im running at 1680x1050, but it would be nice to use my 28" Full HD TV via HDMI for films etc, which im assuming would be more demanding?
Mech, how much is the 880GT though, im out of the loop really at the moment, but i just googled and it came up as about £120, whereas the 5670 is £70, so unless im missing something, though its the same performance, its nearly half the price? (correct me if im wrong here)
and specwise, the 5770 is virtually double that of the 5670, but at double the price, so it looks like a simple case of you get what you pay for?
how much is the 5830 going to be? because £140 is pretty much my limit here!
the thing is, the only games i really play are mmorpgs on my pc, and the only FPS i play are old like CSS.
My next year of PC gaming is likely to be Lotro, then maybe Wow to fill in a gap, then FF14, so would i really need a 5770?
And talking of which, is there any word on whether ff14 will be implementing any dx11 features? would i be able to run stalker okay on the 5670?
Thanks for your help.
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will FF14 be another exception? and so the 5830 is more expensive than the 5770?
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It will provide at least 1k shaders, 256-bit bus and is intended to be a little bit better than the 4890, closing the huge gap between 5770 and 5850.
Believe the 5830 is planned to be $220 or so. It should be a really good purchase, as ~$200 is the most I really feel comfortable spending on a card. 5770 at $160 isn't quite spendy enough for me lol. So 5830 really fills that gap.
HD 5670 would give you around 3-4 times the performance of a X1800XL.
HD 5770 would give around 50%-90% more performance than the HD 5670 depending on the games, although having double the raw processing power of the HD5670 the HD 5770 performs rather erratic due to its bandwidth being hindered on a 128bit bus, it only has 12.8GB/sec more than the HD 5670. 76.8 GB/sec vs 64 GB/sec.
Right now the best value card you can get in the UK as far as performance is concerned is a HD 4870 1024MB for £100 but it lacks DX11 support and is a power hog while the HD 5770 performs slower across the board, gives you DX11, is energy efficient makes it more attractive for £20-£30 more.
The HD 5830 would probably cost around £180 filling the gap between the HD 5770 and HD 5850.
I think i've chosen to go for the 5770, as the 5670 seems a little underpowered for the price, so its doubtful id be able to make use of the dx11 features properly so i may as well be going for a better card at that price,
so my choices are:
Sapphire 5770 HD 1gb 850mhz.
Sapphire 5770HD Vapor-x 1gb 860mhz
ATI Radeon 5770HD 1gb
any suggestions?
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Yea I tend to agree, 5770 is a good buy. If those 3 are the same price then the Vapor-x one has the better cooler.
The 10mhz factory overclock is pretty irrelevant so just base it off whether you want the slightly better cooler for overclocking. The cooler on the 850mhz one is fine otherwise. No idea what brand the 'ATI' one is.. must be Powercolor or something.
If you can shop elsewhere, XFX has an awesome double lifetime warranty. This XFX 5770 1gb at $165 is a great deal. I bought Sapphire because it was on sale for $155 and XFX was $180 at the time.
Unfortunately they're all slightly different prices!
The cheapest UK site i found was CCL,
http://www.cclonline.com/product-info.asp?product_id=38083&tid=gsearch £134 XFX
http://www.cclonline.com/product-info.asp?product_id=37816&tid=gsearch £120 CCL Choice
http://www.cclonline.com/product-info.asp?product_id=41797&tid=gsearch £134 Sapphire Vapor-X
http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Graphics+Cards/PCI-E/ATI+Radeon+5000+Series+PCI-E/Sapphire+ATI+Radeon+HD+5770+1024MB+GDDR5+PCI-Express+Graphics+Card+?productId=38199 £127 Sapphire.
so the cheapest is CCL choice by a fair bit, do you reckon its worth going for the slightly more expensive Sapphire, or the highest Vapor-x or XFX ?
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Always go for the one that has the easiest return/exchange policy. You might pay a bit more, but if you need it it can save you weeks of time.
People buy the cheapest and then end up paying the difference in phone bills or shipping at times and end up paying more than just checking the return/warranty in the first place.
Oh, you're in the UK, so XFX doesn't matter. Their UK warranty is no different than anyone elses.
Might check this site too:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-222-SP&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1515
Final choice is gonna have to be based on total cost with shipping vs the company's UK warranty which as far as I know is the same for every company.
That CCL choice one is clocked very low for some reason btw. 750MHz. The 5770 is suppose to be clocked at 850MHz stock. 5750 is 700MHz. So it's closer to being a 5750 than 5770. Not sure what's up with that but I'd steer clear.
So just grab the cheapest one that isn't a 'house brand'. If that Vapor-X one I linked is still cheap w/shipping I'd get that. If it's not as cheap as the Sapphire you linked from Aria I'd get the one from Aria unless you plan on overclocking.
lol yea 5870 is good an retails cheap at the moment itll be cheaper in april but so far people are saying good thing about the 5970