Returned to WAR after 6months and I must say...

Servase · February 2010

I never logged out of a game faster. I must have been logged on for 3minutes before becoming insanely annoyed with how NOTHING has changed. It really is sad, I had high hopes for WAR. I can't believe after 2years they've added LOTD.

Has anyone else made a return only to regret it and stop playing ? I figured with all the new patches something good must of happened. But not really...

orlac · February 2010

How could you know nothing has changed in three minutes? I just came back and a lot has changed....

megarax · February 2010

It's dead, Jim.

Servase · February 2010

Originally posted by orlac

How could you know nothing has changed in three minutes? I just came back and a lot has changed....

I looked at the map and noticed there isn't any new content. Also, the layout is the same. They didn't add any new cities like they promised. They merged all the servers to make six and it's still not that active. At least not on Badlands.

All I can see in changes so far is a little UI and some bug fixes. There's literally NO new content other than LOTD. It's the exact same game it's been since beta. Rank/RR hasn't been increased, no new zones/SC or anything. It's the same game.

Even LOTRO has had more content updates than this. And Turbine is slow with updating games. But Mythic clearly takes the cake as they haven't done anything. It's like they don't care anymore.

Shealladh · February 2010

Originally posted by orlac

How could you know nothing has changed in three minutes? I just came back and a lot has changed....

Well I'm a little slow compared to the average person. Would have taken me maybe 3 or 4 minutes.

Just for the record, unless they have rewritten the underlying flaws in the game, then I will never be returning. Oh and that being the unbalanced classes funny considering it was all perfect before Retail Release for the most part.

I heard Gandi's call and left WAR for good!

Servase · February 2010

Originally posted by Shealladh

Originally posted by orlac

How could you know nothing has changed in three minutes? I just came back and a lot has changed....

Well I'm a little slow compared to the average person. Would have taken me maybe 3 or 4 minutes.

Just for the record, unless they have rewritten the underlying flaws in the game, then I will never be returning. Oh and that being the unbalanced classes funny considering it was all perfect before Retail Release for the most part.

I heard Gandi's call and left WAR for good!

I'm just happy I got this 60day Time code for cheap. That's how you know when a game is failing. When you can buy 2 60day time codes off Ebay for $20. I'd be lucky to grab a single WoW 60day time code for $30.

But even $20 was to much for 120days of WAR. Considering so far I've only played 3minutes and that's likely all that will be used.

Loke666 · February 2010

Mythic doesn't have the crew anymore to radically change the game. They can do small updates and add some stuff but there just isn't enough of them to change the game so much that you really will notice it after a short while.

Mythic should never have made this game, they should have made DAoC 2 instead and left the Warhammer IP to someone that truly loves Warhammer. The game have some good points but it just isn't Warhammer and the GW fans are the huge potential customer base that they should have aimed for instead of trying to steal players from Wow.

DAoC 2 would have been a very different game, it wouldn't have sold so well initially but it would be a lot larger than WAR is now.

I am all for trying something new but they didn't, if they would have used the mechanics that GW used in Warhammer fantasy roleplaying without levels they would probably be a lot better off.

Of course the other big problem is that they cut out half of the planned content turning the endgame into meaningless skirmishes (the original planned endgame sounded actually rather good even though it would have been better with 3 sides). And when you cut half the planned game you kinda shoot yourself in the foot, it is possible that DAoC 2 would have turned out the same then.

But it is clear to me that no-one in Mythic is a Warhammer fan, the game lacks the feeling and soul of the old world.

kaiser3282 · February 2010

Originally posted by Servase

Originally posted by orlac

How could you know nothing has changed in three minutes? I just came back and a lot has changed....

I looked at the map and noticed there isn't any new content. Also, the layout is the same. They didn't add any new cities like they promised. They merged all the servers to make six and it's still not that active. At least not on Badlands.

All I can see in changes so far is a little UI and some bug fixes. There's literally NO new content other than LOTD. It's the exact same game it's been since beta. Rank/RR hasn't been increased, no new zones/SC or anything. It's the same game.

Even LOTRO has had more content updates than this. And Turbine is slow with updating games. But Mythic clearly takes the cake as they haven't done anything. It's like they don't care anymore.

Welcome to WAR... they launched LOTD, which nobody even really wanted due to the glaring issues with bugs, balance, etc which should have been worked on BEFORE even thinking about adding new content. But rather than listen to their player base and focus on fixing the issues with an already failing game, they went ahead and just launched LOTD loaded with all the same issues that the rest of the game already had. Well, they at least put a stop to adding any new content until the real issues are fixed.... only they still havent been fixed. Sure they have fixed several things, but many of the issues that existed in the first few months of the game still exist over a year later, not to mention that their "fix" for some of the issues has been to simply remove already existing content and limit the game to areas where such issues dont exist.

Now sure I know, they have made sme improvements to the overall game, as far as fixing bugs and balance issues, but they handle it very poorly, took way too long to get simple things done, and with balance issues in many cases seemed to just come up with an idea for fixing something, decided on it, and stuck with it without even considering any other impact it may have an continuing to keep it imbalanced or make it even worse. Perfect example was the global AOE nerf they did. Now sure, its nice not to get taken out by massive AOEs quite as quickly, but when you nerf EVERYONE'S AOEs regardless of class, not just the classes that actually needed the nerfing, rather tha giving a little boost to the classes that are lackign while nerfing the OP classes, youre still in the same spot.... the best aoe classes are still just as much ahead of the rest in as they were before the patch, it really changed nothing other than to allow you to live about 2 seconds longer.

Omali · February 2010

Originally posted by Servase

Originally posted by Shealladh

Originally posted by orlac

How could you know nothing has changed in three minutes? I just came back and a lot has changed....

Well I'm a little slow compared to the average person. Would have taken me maybe 3 or 4 minutes.

Just for the record, unless they have rewritten the underlying flaws in the game, then I will never be returning. Oh and that being the unbalanced classes funny considering it was all perfect before Retail Release for the most part.

I heard Gandi's call and left WAR for good!

I'm just happy I got this 60day Time code for cheap. That's how you know when a game is failing. When you can buy 2 60day time codes off Ebay for $20. I'd be lucky to grab a single WoW 60day time code for $30.

But even $20 was to much for 120days of WAR. Considering so far I've only played 3minutes and that's likely all that will be used.

Can I have the other 60 day time card?

Servase · February 2010

Originally posted by Utopi

Everyone, I just resubbed to Aion and W.o.W. I looked around for 20 WHOLE seconds and didn't find anything new. Z OMG Z omg those games are the worst games in the world because "I must say" I was there for 20 WHOLE seconds and found out they didn't do anything to fix the game. Thank god I got time cards for 10c on ebay!!!!

Wow, 20 seconds ? That's pro. I played Aion for 4months, good game I must say. I cancelled my subscription a few days ago, but I totally plan to make my return in a couple weeks. I was actually leaving Aion to try out Fallen Earth which, albeit a good game, doesn't strike my FPS needs. I'm going to try out Global Agenda and if that doesn't quench my thirst for FPS. Then I'll go back to Aion.

But you really can't say you logged on Aion for 20seconds and there's nothing to do. There's some actual PvP in AION. You don't have to find it, it's there for you. In WAR you literally do have to find PVP. Like you have to search all the Tier4 zones in hopes that there's actually someone else on the planet that still plays WAR so you can fight that person. Then hope you're class isn't severely imbalanced so you have a winning shot.

WoW however I would agree. You can log into WoW and become bored in 20seconds as soon as you realize your fate in the game. The PvP sucks and the crafting is useless. Which means the only thing to do is PvE. And you can't just walk out and PvE. You have to find a raiding guild and devote 4 nights a week, at 4hours each night to raid ICC. Then you realize something, why the heck am I raiding 16hrs/wk? To kill some bosses that look like zombiefarts and loot that becomes obsolete when the next dungeon is released? That's when you get bored of WoW. But if you don't think fo the future it's actually quite fun.

For instance, this is just me. I can't log into WoW right now and find anything to do. However, the other 11million people that play WoW can likely ALWAYS find something to do. But I find leveling an alt just for the same end result of raiding to be pointless. Doing any form of PVE other than the endgame raids is pointless. You can only do ICC once a week and require 10/25 other people. So for me, I can only log on when raids occur. And 20minutes into the raid I find myself bored as hell. It's a good thing I raid with friends because WoW has become a social Networking tool where I log in to chat with friends and raid as if we were playing COD6 at my place drinking some beer.

I know some people can log into WAR and PvP nonstop and enjoy the hell out of it. But I'm just wondering why after 2years NOTHING new has been added to the game. IT's a PVP game and the only thing they added was some lackluster PVE. Not to mention, the PVP is terrible and they haven't even made the attempt to fix it.

The real problem is me really. I can't enjoy WoW because the only thing to do is raid a dungeon with badly scripted, rehashed fights from previous dungeons for loot. Only to find out that a new dungeon comes out and you have to be bored all over again. Well to me, that's like WAR, but substitute the PVE with PVP. All you do is log in to WAR. Spend 20minutes to find some PvP and realize it's the worst form of PvP you've ever imagined.

Don't even get me started on how bad the fortress fights are. The vidoes made it sound so much better because it left you with your own imagination to do the work. Then you get to these poorly designed, instanced, laggy and imbalanced cities to find that it's nothing like described. You totally don't destroy the city like they say in the many videos. It's also instanced and surprisingly doesn't even effect the actual city.

Sigh, I'm waiting for one of those miracle games with developers that are in it for the game, not the money.

Servase · February 2010

Originally posted by Omali

Originally posted by Servase

Originally posted by Shealladh

Originally posted by orlac

How could you know nothing has changed in three minutes? I just came back and a lot has changed....

Well I'm a little slow compared to the average person. Would have taken me maybe 3 or 4 minutes.

Just for the record, unless they have rewritten the underlying flaws in the game, then I will never be returning. Oh and that being the unbalanced classes funny considering it was all perfect before Retail Release for the most part.

I heard Gandi's call and left WAR for good!

I'm just happy I got this 60day Time code for cheap. That's how you know when a game is failing. When you can buy 2 60day time codes off Ebay for $20. I'd be lucky to grab a single WoW 60day time code for $30.

But even $20 was to much for 120days of WAR. Considering so far I've only played 3minutes and that's likely all that will be used.

Can I have the other 60 day time card?

I'd give you it, but I used it. I bought two 7months ago, used one. Played for like 2 days got bored never logged back on till now.

Utopi · February 2010

But you really can't say you logged on Aion for 20seconds and there's nothing to do. There's some actual PvP in AION. You don't have to find it, it's there for you

Depends on what server you are on because the abyss is DEAD on a-lot of servers. I don't call running around at lvl 50 ganking lvl 30s in one GCD PVP. In Warhammer a few seconds ago I logged on my T2 character and found a warband of destro killing a warband of order over a keep. Before that I was logged onto my main and found out we were trying to prevent 120 order from pushing to IC before the oceanic login to control everything. Oh the scen's also popped in under 3 mins and it took me a whole 3 mins for a scen pop. Thats what I call instant PVP ACTION!!

I know some people can log into WAR and PvP nonstop and enjoy the hell out of it. But I'm just wondering why after 2years NOTHING new has been added to the game. IT's a PVP game and the only thing they added was some lackluster PVE,

PVP nonstop? I thought you said there was no action anywhere to be found . Sorry to break it too you buddy but the game has only been out for a YEAR and 5 months. Aion has been out for a YEAR and 8 months (Released in Korea long time ago) and hasn't released any NEW content. Acutally, Warhammer released LOTD and 4 Classes AND huntervale AND almost monthly live events that last two weekd AND soon weekend EVENTS.

Yes the PVE is a bit lackluster in most of the game but Lost Vale, TOVL, and palace are all PVE encounters that personally rock. Not to mention ToVL because TOVL is actually a HARD PVE instance that rarely has some PVP. (Now to think of it I haven't had encounters like TOVL encounters since we'll never you have to actually be good to do them and thats the reason only about 8 guilds per server can do them fully. )

Don't even get me started on how bad the fortress fights are. The vidoes made it sound so much better because it left you with your own imagination to do the work. Then you get to these poorly designed, instanced, laggy and imbalanced cities to find that it's nothing like described. You totally don't destroy the city like they say in the many videos. It's also instanced and surprisingly doesn't even effect the actual city.

Fortress where removed 8 months ago buddy. I totally agree the Stage 1 city raids are lack luster poorly designed but the last PTS event a couple days ago we were told that the city instance raids are going to be redesigned to be good RVR encounter in the next patch 1.3.5. Now with the laggy, unstable? You need to buy a new computer because 6 months ago they released the stablity patch that made them lagfree for 99% of the playerbase along with a HUIGE fps boost. Not to mention 1.3.4 is comming out with even more improvements where on PTS we had 400+ players with 100+ computer control bots spamming AOE to try and crash the server and it didn't lag once for 99% of the players.

Don't know about you but in W.o.W and Aion when I did the abyss or Windergrasp when there was 80v80 battles the servers are lagging like the OLD Warhammer fortress.

P.S.S. I am not a fanboi and I am pretty critical about alot of thing was has done but your excuses are poor. You need to just stop the bullshyt lies and admit ya never logged into the game.

Utopi · February 2010

Actually I would like to touch up a few things about the game before you go on another rant.

A lot of people agree that the old PVE is lackluster and well some of the dungeon are lackluster but some of them are really really really well designed compared to games like W.o.W. / Eq2 (God unrest was the best PVE instance ever created.)

The thing is you have to look at the future now that the game recieved a new dungeon developer and Tovl + Hunters Vale are the most fun I have had in a PVE dungeon. You should actually try it on a Teir 1 character if you semi enjoy PVE you would have some fun.

To start you fight trash and minibosses until you get the first real boss. Once you kill the real boss a huge logg explodes and becomes a bridge (Never seen any affects like that in any MMO before.) You kill the next lion boss and it's just a tank and spank encounter. Than you and your group have to figure out a fun ass puzzle to spawn these BIRDS that eventually pick you up and fly you to the end boss. Now just that mini pve dungeon that was a LIVE event gives you an example of future dungeons going to be like when they do release an expansion.

Astralglide · February 2010

Originally posted by Utopi

Actually I would like to touch up a few things about the game before you go on another rant.
A lot of people agree that the old PVE is lackluster and well some of the dungeon are lackluster but some of them are really really really well designed compared to games like W.o.W. / Eq2 (God unrest was the best PVE instance ever created.)
The thing is you have to look at the future now that the game recieved a new dungeon developer and Tovl + Hunters Vale are the most fun I have had in a PVE dungeon. You should actually try it on a Teir 1 character if you semi enjoy PVE you would have some fun.
To start you fight trash and minibosses until you get the first real boss. Once you kill the real boss a huge logg explodes and becomes a bridge (Never seen any affects like that in any MMO before.) You kill the next lion boss and it's just a tank and spank encounter. Than you and your group have to figure out a fun ass puzzle to spawn these BIRDS that eventually pick you up and fly you to the end boss. Now just that mini pve dungeon that was a LIVE event gives you an example of future dungeons going to be like when they do release an expansion.

Ummmm..... I've seen much more impressive mechanics in the "poorly designed" games that you mentioned, but I have seen utter garbage from WAR's PVE and instances. I am an instance fanatic and I found them to be boring and too short. (Yes I resubbed after a year break and I bought the pre-order

Servase · February 2010

Depends on what server you are on because the abyss is DEAD on a-lot of servers. I don't call running around at lvl 50 ganking lvl 30s in one GCD PVP. In Warhammer a few seconds ago I logged on my T2 character and found a warband of destro killing a warband of order over a keep. Before that I was logged onto my main and found out we were trying to prevent 120 order from pushing to IC before the oceanic login to control everything. Oh the scen's also popped in under 3 mins and it took me a whole 3 mins for a scen pop. Thats what I call instant PVP ACTION!!

I really depends on what time you log on for both games. If you log on Aion during peak times(same for WAR), it's much easier to find people.

Sorry, but Tier 1/2/3 PvP doesn't interest me. Although, I have been forced to do it many times because there's literally no one doing anything on my server for T4. I have a level 10 and 20 so that I can do T1/2. I know T1 is always active because of the endless free trial and a lot of action happens in T2. That's been a well known fact since the game released that T4 has always been dead and never was a good Tier to reach.

But what if I want to pvp in t4? Hmmm .. what then. I don't give a hoot about what happens in the lower tiers. I want some PvP in tier 4 with castle/city fights. I don't want to fight for keeps in tier 2 or camps in tier 1. And 120 order pushing into IC only to find that it's instanced into what's the limit again? 40... and you all have to work together and hope all the instances do well. Once in the city of course it's no different than pvp outside of the city. It doesn't feel like a city fight at all. It's like the scenary changed, but the concept remains. I know it's PvP.. player vs player, what more do you want. Well I was hoping for some siege action inside the city. Running on the walls, but it's all a separate instance that doesn't effect the actual city. As in, you can't just run to the main city and see shit happening because the action is in instances.

PVP nonstop? I thought you said there was no action anywhere to be found . Sorry to break it too you buddy but the game has only been out for a YEAR and 5 months. Aion has been out for a YEAR and 8 months (Released in Korea long time ago) and hasn't released any NEW content. Acutally, Warhammer released LOTD and 4 Classes AND huntervale AND almost monthly live events that last two weekd AND soon weekend EVENTS.

Yes the PVE is a bit lackluster in most of the game but Lost Vale, TOVL, and palace are all PVE encounters that personally rock. Not to mention ToVL because TOVL is actually a HARD PVE instance that rarely has some PVP. (Now to think of it I haven't had encounters like TOVL encounters since we'll never you have to actually be good to do them and thats the reason only about 8 guilds per server can do them fully. )

You didn't understand what I said at all. I wasn't saying they could pvp nonstop as in find pvp action nonstop. I meant, that's all they would do, is search for some pvp and do nothing but that for 8hrs. I need some actual pvp, not lackluster pvp in a bush somewhere. I'm talking about city fights, keeps/castles, siege weapons. People working together. Not a small 1vs1 some where.

You can't compare the Asian release of Aion with the NA release of Aion. It's only been in NA for 8months and they've already addressed more bug fixes and changes to the game than WAR has in the last 17months. Not to mention they already have an expansion and a free content update in the works. What does WAR have? a couple bug fixes? Where's all the content and class balance changes.

Once again. I could give a hoot about some slightly better than the usual garbage PVE that is in WAR if it's not in T4. If it's T1, i'm not doing it. You think Blizzard is going to release a new dungeon for level 2s? What's the point. No I want something in the T4, and a good dungeon would be nice. None of the dungeons in WAR are any good. They're all rubbish as paul barnett would say.

Fortress where removed 8 months ago buddy. I totally agree the Stage 1 city raids are lack luster poorly designed but the last PTS event a couple days ago we were told that the city instance raids are going to be redesigned to be good RVR encounter in the next patch 1.3.5. Now with the laggy, unstable? You need to buy a new computer because 6 months ago they released the stablity patch that made them lagfree for 99% of the playerbase along with a HUIGE fps boost. Not to mention 1.3.4 is comming out with even more improvements where on PTS we had 400+ players with 100+ computer control bots spamming AOE to try and crash the server and it didn't lag once for 99% of the players.

Don't know about you but in W.o.W and Aion when I did the abyss or Windergrasp when there was 80v80 battles the servers are lagging like the OLD Warhammer fortress.

P.S.S. I am not a fanboi and I am pretty critical about alot of thing was has done but your excuses are poor. You need to just stop the bullshyt lies and admit ya never logged into the game.

Yes, Fortresses were removed. That's backtracking if you ask me. Fortresses weren't that bad, they just needed to be implemented better. But that's how Mythic does things, rather than fix it, they make it worse. Instead of adding content, they remove content. Instead of fixing content, they remove it. City raids have always been lackluster. It's like they made it in a day. All the devs just stood around a table for 4months and ate donuts and then just decided they should do something. So they put together the horrible City raids that are today.

My Computer isn't the greatest as I don't see the need to spend $700 for a 5970. But what I do have is more than sufficient to handle WAR at the highest settings. I'll list what I have.

Q9550 OC'd to 3.5ghz

2x2gb DDR2-1000 Mushkin Ram

Asus Maximus Formula

HD 4890 1gb

1.5TB HDD

Windows 7 64bit.

Even an x800xl could run this game without encountering any problems. So, it's not on my end. But if you paid any attention to the game you would notice that cast lag has been a huge issue with WAR for a long time.

I am, however, happy to hear that Mythic is planning to fix City fights in the next patch. I definitely will look into patch 1.3.4, as I'm not a WAR hater. I really do want WAR to succeed. And by Succeed, I mean hold a playerbase sufficient enough for them to make money and consistently improve the game. So that everyone can enjoy it. Right now they must be hurting for money because they can't make any decent changes to the game. It really would be nice if they could fix the game so everyone can enjoy it. Having some 400+ battles with a city mechanic that doesn't suck would be awesome. I do hope they have more planned than just a city fight redesign. The game really won't last much longer if that's all they can dish out.

I've played WoW WG and ya, WoW servers have always been bad. And that's because Blizzard is cheap. It's like most gaming companies. They're all about the money and Blizzard doesn't want to waste money where they don't see fit. No one is quitting WoW because of Server lag so they see no reason to improve servers.

It's a shame.

gszebe · February 2010

Originally posted by Servase

I never logged out of a game faster. I must have been logged on for 3minutes before becoming insanely annoyed with how NOTHING has changed. It really is sad, I had high hopes for WAR. I can't believe after 2years they've added LOTD.
Has anyone else made a return only to regret it and stop playing ? I figured with all the new patches something good must of happened. But not really...

It's funny since I've resubbed after 6 months as well, and I'm quite happy with the game now... not flawless, definitely, but I really enjoy it.

Dstive · February 2010

Troll much OP?

MorningStarGG · February 2010

Let this thread die, it is uninformed and is just trying to be a moron. This game has changed tons and there is no way in 3 minutes he could see that or not see that. Just logging in you get that new War report which GOSH is a change!

This whole topic is on insult to another. Badlands is an ACTIVE server as is Iron Rock.

This game may not have new content but the content it has has been refined patch after patch.

Justarius1 · February 2010

It is unfortunate that you didn't like WAR when you came back. I did, and I loved it. I immediately reinstalled the game after coming back from a 3 month hiatus and I've never been happier with the quick and furious PvP battles I can get into. The game is a good fit for me; I think that the focus on bug and performance improvements is a *good* thing - I don't really need or want more content. I'm completely happy to play my scenarios, join in the ORvR combat that no other game comes close to offering, and have a blast with my established guild.

I will say; I dislike T1 the most of all tiers. I enjoy T2-4 highly. T1 is something I try to get through so I don't have to deal with all the free trial folk who hang on forever without ever planning on subbing or taking the game seriously.

I am happy that you figured out the game isn't for you, as you are free now to sample any one of dozens of other MMOs out on the market. I sincerely hope you find one that you enjoy playing soon.

Servase · February 2010

Originally posted by Justarius1

It is unfortunate that you didn't like WAR when you came back. I did, and I loved it. I immediately reinstalled the game after coming back from a 3 month hiatus and I've never been happier with the quick and furious PvP battles I can get into. The game is a good fit for me; I think that the focus on bug and performance improvements is a *good* thing - I don't really need or want more content. I'm completely happy to play my scenarios, join in the ORvR combat that no other game comes close to offering, and have a blast with my established guild.
I will say; I dislike T1 the most of all tiers. I enjoy T2-4 highly. T1 is something I try to get through so I don't have to deal with all the free trial folk who hang on forever without ever planning on subbing or taking the game seriously.
I am happy that you figured out the game isn't for you, as you are free now to sample any one of dozens of other MMOs out on the market. I sincerely hope you find one that you enjoy playing soon.

It's not that the game is not for me. I was a diehard WAR fan. I played beta for 6months, never thought I'd be where I am now. I guess it's just because I expected something more, and when I found out it was what it is now, I became bored. Like, I was hoping for siege weapons that you could move and control, not where you build them on a pad. Doors that actually broke and not just swung open.

The main issue with the game, like every product, is the user(me). I guess it really isn't the game for me as I was expecting to much and can't accept the game for what it is. But the PvP is still better than WoW. It doesn't look like there will be any games releasing anytime soon that will be PvP oriented, so I'm stuck with this.

gszebe · February 2010

Originally posted by Servase
It's not that the game is not for me. I was a diehard WAR fan. I played beta for 6months, never thought I'd be where I am now. I guess it's just because I expected something more, and when I found out it was what it is now, I became bored. Like, I was hoping for siege weapons that you could move and control, not where you build them on a pad. Doors that actually broke and not just swung open.
The main issue with the game, like every product, is the user(me). I guess it really isn't the game for me as I was expecting to much and can't accept the game for what it is. But the PvP is still better than WoW. It doesn't look like there will be any games releasing anytime soon that will be PvP oriented, so I'm stuck with this.

I suppose you can feel the conflict between your original post and the latest one. Anyway, you should play what you really enjoy, mate. (Which does not necessarily mean that you have to start a topic from frustration / burning-out even if you have right for your oppinion, of course )

Larry2298 · February 2010

Warhammer is being produced and designed as it is, which also means the game is not planned for big change. Even there are enough staffs but the game is not flexible for structure changes.

I think the game is an OEM product. It means someone give the game production to various individuals and then combined all parts together. That is Warhammer. As I heard earlier, it cost 100 millions to produce the game. It seemed too much for an OEM product like Warhammer.

gszebe · February 2010

Though I can agree with you that original game designs are usually not made to be revamped completey later on, and it could be a hard trip to hell to redesign its core mechanics 'on-the-fly' for sure. But honestly, I don't see why these mechanics would be so unflexible in the case of WAR which would impede theoretically such step-by-step revamps in given mechanics (one at a time). Especially if you are right, and the game was made of 'combined parts'. Sorry, but it does not seem to be logical.

xenex413 · February 2010

My guess is you logged in with the "nothing has changed" mentallity and didn't actually look, funny thing is many people who are subbed are saying so many good things and clearly saying the game has changed for the better in US and EU servers, yet u and a couple of people think otherwise after "3 minutes" as you said and in some instances not even trying the game at all, my suggestion is go play what you want and stop bad mouthing the game in a way that you drive people curious to try it away and most probably would have loved the game but by following your bad illed advice didn't.

Example I tried Aion which you say is a great game, yet I played on closed and open beta, pre-ordered the game adn ended returning it out of disgust, different people different opinions and tastes.

BTW I am curious to know how you came to the assumption "there's little people playing in Badlands even after merger" in 3 minutes.

donjn · February 2010

Right now Warhammer is the best it has ever been, Performance is much better, and merging the servers has done wonders. I spent hours with a T3 group capturing stuff all over the place including awesome skirmishes here and there.

Funball · February 2010

How many servers are left now?

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