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SOE wins the day in court against the blind.

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  • SweetZoidSweetZoid Member Posts: 437

    USA is the worst country in the world, they sue people for anything as they get the chance to. Disgusting. Thats not the only thing i dont like about  USA.

  • IhmoteppIhmotepp Member Posts: 14,495
    Originally posted by augustgrace


    They should have slapped this guy with a fine for wasting the courts time and public money.

     

    Agreed. This should be considered a frivolous lawsuit, and the guy should have to pay Blizzards legal costs.

     

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  • IlvaldyrIlvaldyr Member CommonPosts: 2,142

    If anyone happens to be sat near one of the aforementioned visually-impaired gamers, please tell them that I commiserate with this unfair conclusion and support their case wholeheartedly.

    I don't, of course .. but I watched "Blind Fury" recently, and Rutger Hauer is pretty badass in that, so it's probably best to play it safe.

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  • zazzzazz Member UncommonPosts: 408

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  • Einherjar_LCEinherjar_LC Member UncommonPosts: 1,055
    Originally posted by gFiz

    Originally posted by jokergulf


    Just like when that idiot sued McDonalds because his own dumbass spilled coffee on himself and then sued because it was too hot. Did that fool think it was going to be cold? He probably would have sued if it was.
    The stupidity of some people is staggering.

     

    the way you wrote that, and the way it's commonly retold, it does sound ridiculous.  But the person sued, and won, because McDonalds, in an effort for them to save on throwing it away and to keep it hot as long as possible once put in a cup, was keeping the coffee at temperatures 20-30 degrees above what is commonly accepted as fresh coffee temperature, resulting in 3rd degree burns rather than 1st degree burns that would normally result from a spill like that.  That "dumbass" was an 81 year old woman by the way, and all she had requested that McD's help with the medical bill from the severe burn and that was it.  McD refused, a lawyer started looking into the facts, saw the negligence, saw over 700 previously reported cases that had been reported, and decided he had a case, which I agree with.   No, the only dumbass in that case was the corporate head who thought a few hundred dollars for medical bills was a bad idea, and instead opened the can of worms.  If you read the actual court case, I think you'd agree, just as a jury of 12 people who had all the facts did.

     

    While I agree that McDonald's would have been better off to have just paid the lady's medical bills, it was her own negligence that led to the injury IMO.  By her own admittance, she was squeezing the the styrofoam cup between her legs attempting to remove the lid.  Of course once the lid came off, the cup collapsed in her lap causing the burns from spilling the over heated coffee.

     

    From my perspective, squeezing a styrofoam cup full of hot liquid between your legs is akin to using a hairdryer in the shower.  You should have enough common sense to know better not to do either.  The fact that in the United States there are warnings on these items such as electric hair dryers stating not to use them in a shower shows just how far out the window personal accountability has gone.  It's always someone else's fault in the United States.

     

     

    OT:

     

    I''m glad to hear this got thrown out.

     

    I am all for people with disabilities being catered to within reason, but this was clearly not a reasonable request. 

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  • nubadaknubadak Member Posts: 150
    Originally posted by Ilvaldyr


    If anyone happens to be sat near one of the aforementioned visually-impaired gamers, please tell them that I commiserate with this unfair conclusion and support their case wholeheartedly.
    I don't, of course .. but I watched "Blind Fury" recently, and Rutger Hauer is pretty badass in that, so it's probably best to play it safe.



     

    The Rutger was great in that movie......I think he might have still been that cyborg thingy from Blade Runner......

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  • warmaster670warmaster670 Member Posts: 1,384
    Originally posted by championsFan


    It is generally not cost-effective from a logical point of view to build wheelchair accessible ramps, but businesses are forced to do so because of the American's with Disabilities Act.   This is why I recommend people to leave logic out, because logic is not the most  relevant thing in politics (annoying, I know, but true).  
     

     

    Are you honsetly trying to compare a wheelchair ramp, something that helps a disabled person do something they probably NEED to do, to a videogame, that not only does no one NEED to play,. but how exactly are they going to make it playable by blind people?

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  • svannsvann Member RarePosts: 2,230

    Next he will be sueing Ebay. 

    "I cant see what Im buying!"

  • MalcanisMalcanis Member UncommonPosts: 3,297
    Originally posted by Ilvaldyr


    If anyone happens to be sat near one of the aforementioned visually-impaired gamers, please tell them that I commiserate with this unfair conclusion and support their case wholeheartedly.
    I don't, of course .. but I watched "Blind Fury" recently, and Rutger Hauer is pretty badass in that, so it's probably best to play it safe.

     

    Man now you made me want to watch that film so much :(

    Give me liberty or give me lasers

  • ThekandyThekandy Member Posts: 621

    Huh, i guess people will milk the system in any way they can.

    It does lend a certain credibility to that old story with the old lady, the cat and the microwave though.



    I'm going back to believing that crap again, bloody America.

  • IhmoteppIhmotepp Member Posts: 14,495
    Originally posted by Malcanis

    Originally posted by Ilvaldyr


    If anyone happens to be sat near one of the aforementioned visually-impaired gamers, please tell them that I commiserate with this unfair conclusion and support their case wholeheartedly.
    I don't, of course .. but I watched "Blind Fury" recently, and Rutger Hauer is pretty badass in that, so it's probably best to play it safe.

     

    Man now you made me want to watch that film so much :(

     

    http://www.movies-links.tv/s/blind_fury.html

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  • qazymanqazyman Member Posts: 1,785

    Of course, the blind and disabled are destroying America with vile lawsuits. Why didn't I see that sooner. LOL

  • Xondar123Xondar123 Member CommonPosts: 2,543
    Originally posted by Dyrtt


    This is the first I've heard of this.
     
    I'm sensitive to people with disabilities and all but how, exactly was Sony supposed to make their games accessible to blind people?  They're video games, after all.  How do you make video that blind people can enjoy?  Are deaf people going to start suing the music industry now?
     
    Weird.

     

    I am legally blind and that means that I can see well enough to play video games or read your post I can't do stuff like drive a car or read small writing.

    The vast majority of MMOs are made with only fully sighted people in mind. It can sometimes be very difficult reading game menus, UI elements and chats. A simply font size adjustment would make these games about a hundred times easier for a visually impaired person to play.

    In my experience the quest log in WoW is very difficult to read and the UI for EVE is like hell on a screen for someone with poor eyesight.

    Also your post shows quite a bit of insensitivity. You assume that every visually impaired person is completely blind and that every deaf person can't hear a single thing. Both these assumptions are dead wrong.

  • Xondar123Xondar123 Member CommonPosts: 2,543
    Originally posted by brihtwulf


    Maybe next he can sue the IOC because he wasn't able to enjoy the olympics fully because he couldn't see the events.
    Or, he can sue a movie theatre because he wasn't able to enjoy the entire movie because he's blind.
    Maybe, he can sue VolksWagon because he's unable to drive their cars safely.
    ...There are many things to like about the USA, but it's crap like this that wastes our time, taxpayers' money, and the time and money of the companies/individuals being sued for completely ridiculous reasons.
    Personally I hope they start passing regulations to make it possible to counter-sue for legal fees when someone with a blatant B.S. case loses like this.

     

    If a movie theater only had seats that were 50 feet from the screen so that visually impaired people couldn't see the movies, then I would hope that someone would sue them.

    Again, not all blind people are completely without sight and not all deaf people can't hear anything at all.

  • Xondar123Xondar123 Member CommonPosts: 2,543
    Originally posted by nubadak


    I think it would be different if the tech existed so the blind could see in a video game and SOE simply wasn't using it. Alas it's not the case.
    Nub's

     

    There is tech available. It's called "increasing the font size."

    Edit: Wow, the amount of insensitivity and ignorance toward people with disabilities in this thread is staggering.

  • championsFanchampionsFan Member Posts: 419
    Originally posted by warmaster670

    Originally posted by championsFan


    It is generally not cost-effective from a logical point of view to build wheelchair accessible ramps, but businesses are forced to do so because of the American's with Disabilities Act.   This is why I recommend people to leave logic out, because logic is not the most  relevant thing in politics (annoying, I know, but true).  
     

     

    Are you honsetly trying to compare a wheelchair ramp, something that helps a disabled person do something they probably NEED to do, to a videogame, that not only does no one NEED to play,. but how exactly are they going to make it playable by blind people?



     

    No, of course not.  But there is no real discourse in this thread, so why bother repeating my points.  Go read them if you want to understand.

    Cryptic is trying a Customer Development approach to MMO creation.

  • Xondar123Xondar123 Member CommonPosts: 2,543
    Originally posted by championsFan

    Originally posted by warmaster670

    Originally posted by championsFan


    It is generally not cost-effective from a logical point of view to build wheelchair accessible ramps, but businesses are forced to do so because of the American's with Disabilities Act.   This is why I recommend people to leave logic out, because logic is not the most  relevant thing in politics (annoying, I know, but true).  
     

     

    Are you honsetly trying to compare a wheelchair ramp, something that helps a disabled person do something they probably NEED to do, to a videogame, that not only does no one NEED to play,. but how exactly are they going to make it playable by blind people?



     

    No, of course not.  But there is no real discourse in this thread, so why bother repeating my points.  Go read them if you want to understand.

     

    Of course there's no real discourse. This thread is full of junk like "how can a BLIND person play a video game??" "I'm glad he lost, expecting video game companies to adjust to people with disabilities is unpossible!!!" and "we don't have the technology to let BLIND people play video games!!!"

  • MavisPMavisP Member Posts: 181
    Originally posted by Xondar123

    Originally posted by nubadak


    I think it would be different if the tech existed so the blind could see in a video game and SOE simply wasn't using it. Alas it's not the case.
    Nub's

     

    There is tech available. It's called "increasing the font size."

    Edit: Wow, the amount of insensitivity and ignorance toward people with disabilities in this thread is staggering.

    Whats staggering is this mindset  that all people are entitled to all things. Insensitivity has nothing to do with being able see how absurd it is for blind people to feel they should be able to play video games. How about legal action against BMG for not allowing deaf people to hear the CD's pruchased from them?  This blind guy and his lawyer should be brought up on extortion charges.

  • cl0vercl0ver Member Posts: 122

    Wow, the nerve of some people.  The blind person should be counter sued for bullshit claims and be fined court cost.  Should also be found in contempt of court or something or other and sentenced to probation or possibly a mild jail stint.  The lawyer should be heavily fined or disbarred for proceeding with a baseless claim like this.

    Its stupid, selfish, money grubbing cases like this that sometimes make me hate america.   In some 3rd world country the blind person might just be shot to teach a lesson to everyone.

  • Xondar123Xondar123 Member CommonPosts: 2,543
    Originally posted by MavisP

    Originally posted by Xondar123

    Originally posted by nubadak


    I think it would be different if the tech existed so the blind could see in a video game and SOE simply wasn't using it. Alas it's not the case.
    Nub's

     

    There is tech available. It's called "increasing the font size."

    Edit: Wow, the amount of insensitivity and ignorance toward people with disabilities in this thread is staggering.

    Whats staggering is this mindset  that all people are entitled to all things. Insensitivity has nothing to do with being able see how absurd it is for blind people to feel they should be able to play video games. How about legal action against BMG for not allowing deaf people to hear the CD's pruchased from them?  This blind guy and his lawyer should be brought up on extortion charges.

     

    NOT ALL DEAF PEOPLE CAN'T HEAR AT ALL. NOT ALL BLIND PEOPLE CAN'T SEE AT ALL.

    Your analogy is dead wrong because it is still very possible for deaf people to listen to music assuming they still have some hearing left. A more accurate analogy would by someone suing Apple because they design the iPod to only play music under a certain decibel making it impossible for that person to turn the volume up to a comfortable level.

    If a company makes their products hard for some people to use, why can't they sue that company over it? In many ways, lawsuits are a mechanism that keeps companies working to provide relevant, safe products for their customers.

  • warmaster670warmaster670 Member Posts: 1,384
    Originally posted by Xondar123

    Originally posted by MavisP

    Originally posted by Xondar123

    Originally posted by nubadak


    I think it would be different if the tech existed so the blind could see in a video game and SOE simply wasn't using it. Alas it's not the case.
    Nub's

     

    There is tech available. It's called "increasing the font size."

    Edit: Wow, the amount of insensitivity and ignorance toward people with disabilities in this thread is staggering.

    Whats staggering is this mindset  that all people are entitled to all things. Insensitivity has nothing to do with being able see how absurd it is for blind people to feel they should be able to play video games. How about legal action against BMG for not allowing deaf people to hear the CD's pruchased from them?  This blind guy and his lawyer should be brought up on extortion charges.

    If a company makes their products hard for some people to use, why can't they sue that company over it?

    Cause, guess what? you dont have to use the product.

     

    Whats next, fat people suing a clothing company because they dont make clothes that fit them?

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  • cl0vercl0ver Member Posts: 122

    zomg im color blind and the fucking stop lights are red yellow and green.   im gonna sue the government

  • MavisPMavisP Member Posts: 181
    Originally posted by Xondar123

    Originally posted by MavisP

    Originally posted by Xondar123

    Originally posted by nubadak


    I think it would be different if the tech existed so the blind could see in a video game and SOE simply wasn't using it. Alas it's not the case.
    Nub's

     

    There is tech available. It's called "increasing the font size."

    Edit: Wow, the amount of insensitivity and ignorance toward people with disabilities in this thread is staggering.

    Whats staggering is this mindset  that all people are entitled to all things. Insensitivity has nothing to do with being able see how absurd it is for blind people to feel they should be able to play video games. How about legal action against BMG for not allowing deaf people to hear the CD's pruchased from them?  This blind guy and his lawyer should be brought up on extortion charges.

     

    NOT ALL DEAF PEOPLE CAN'T HEAR AT ALL. NOT ALL BLIND PEOPLE CAN'T SEE AT ALL.

    Your analogy is dead wrong because it is still very possible for deaf people to listen to music assuming they still have some hearing left. A more accurate analogy would by someone suing Apple because they design the iPod to only play music under a certain decibel making it impossible for that person to turn the volume up to a comfortable level.

    If a company makes their products hard for some people to use, why can't they sue that company over it? In many ways, lawsuits are a mechanism that keeps companies working to provide relevant, safe products for their customers.

    I have an idea? How about this blind guy sue his parents for not teaching him not to buy things he is physically incapable of using? You could be his lawyer.

  • Yeah idiots exist all over apparently. I mean that would be like a blind person sueing a movie theater because they are not able to watch the movies that are shown at the facility.

    I am not a fan of Sony, but I am a fan of companies standing up for their right to tell stupid activists to stfu and deal with it. Good job Sony for getting it thrown out.

    Could only imagine quadrapalegics sueing sony next for not making an input device that doesn't require movement,  or touch.

     

  • DillingerEPDillingerEP Member UncommonPosts: 366

    Good Ol United States, going about it's finest here. Fat girl sues McDonalds, cause their food made her fat... >.>  Not as bad when some asshole decides to break into some poor bastards house. Then proceed to hurt himself, while breaking into the house. Then go's on later to sue homeowner, cause he hurt himself on the homeowners property... and somehow wins O.o 

    United States law system has been and still is a laughing joke. What next??? Someone with no arm's going to sue a glove manufacture!!??

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