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Any good high Fantasy 3D MMOs?

ShilarShilar Member UncommonPosts: 72

The reason I ask is I notice quite a few rumors on WoW and co, and wonder on any MMO meeting these guidelines:

 

 - High fantasy PC characters, ala centaurs (or centaur-like), naga, or any other multi-legged/no-legged creatures?

 - Less grindfest. I don't like repetative quests (ie each area has a "kill X amount of idiots" quest).

 - Pleasing graphics. I shouldn't need to buy a new PC for it, but also I don't want to see EQ graphics.

 - Seperate PvP/PvE environments. If I want PvP, I'd play Quake, so I would like to not be forced into it.

 

Recommendations?

"Of all the things wrong with today's RPGs, 2D characters on a 3D background is the worst."

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  • pencilrickpencilrick Member Posts: 1,550

    Originally posted by Shilar

    The reason I ask is I notice quite a few rumors on WoW and co, and wonder on any MMO meeting these guidelines:

     

     - High fantasy PC characters, ala centaurs (or centaur-like), naga, or any other multi-legged/no-legged creatures?

     - Less grindfest. I don't like repetative quests (ie each area has a "kill X amount of idiots" quest).

     - Pleasing graphics. I shouldn't need to buy a new PC for it, but also I don't want to see EQ graphics.

     - Seperate PvP/PvE environments. If I want PvP, I'd play Quake, so I would like to not be forced into it.

     

    Recommendations?

    I would advise waiting for FF XIV to come out later this year, and maybe EQ Next within the next couple of years.  Some folks will advise you towards LOTRO or AOC, but waiting for a "new" quality game that you can commit time to probably means holding out for a few more months.

    Personally, I see FF XIV as a good stopgap game and EQ Next as "the Grail"  (if they don't muck it up, that is.)

    WOW is coming out with an expansion, but from what I hear about instancing and "phasing", I'm not sure it will be any more than a stopgap game itself.

  • ShilarShilar Member UncommonPosts: 72

    Originally posted by pencilrick

    Originally posted by Shilar

    The reason I ask is I notice quite a few rumors on WoW and co, and wonder on any MMO meeting these guidelines:

     

     - High fantasy PC characters, ala centaurs (or centaur-like), naga, or any other multi-legged/no-legged creatures?

     - Less grindfest. I don't like repetative quests (ie each area has a "kill X amount of idiots" quest).

     - Pleasing graphics. I shouldn't need to buy a new PC for it, but also I don't want to see EQ graphics.

     - Seperate PvP/PvE environments. If I want PvP, I'd play Quake, so I would like to not be forced into it.

     

    Recommendations?

    I would advise waiting for FF XIV to come out later this year, and maybe EQ Next within the next couple of years.  Some folks will advise you towards LOTRO or AOC, but waiting for a "new" quality game that you can commit time to probably means holding out for a few more months.

    Personally, I see FF XIV as a good stopgap game and EQ Next as "the Grail"  (if they don't muck it up, that is.)

    WOW is coming out with an expansion, but from what I hear about instancing and "phasing", I'm not sure it will be any more than a stopgap game itself.

    FF XIV is more low fantasy to me (as I understand it, all the characters are human), LOTRO and AOC are as well. What is this EQ Next? EQ II started low, ended up mid-fantasy (when they added pixies/faeries).

     

    WoW is mid-range fantasy at best. Until they add Dryads or Naga, it will stay such. Also, the grind is horrible after level 20 for Horde, and 30 for Alliance.

    "Of all the things wrong with today's RPGs, 2D characters on a 3D background is the worst."

  • ArakaziArakazi Member UncommonPosts: 911

    Has someone changed the meaning of high fantasy when I wasn't looking? LOTR is high fantasy as far as I'm aware. Anyway, to answer your question, this is no high quality MMO that I can think of that meets your requirements at least not that I've played. And since you don't seem to like quests, and grinding (I wonder how you will level if you don't) I wouldn't recomend you play any of the current MMOs.

  • inzane3inzane3 Member UncommonPosts: 103

    Not sure what you mean by High Fantasy mate but erm what about Lord of the Rings online? The fantasy that started it all hehe.

     

    I personally don't like it. I prefer Aion but that would be too much grind for you at the moment, but the grind will decrease in mid June with the new patch because many people moaned about it.

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  • ShilarShilar Member UncommonPosts: 72

    Originally posted by inzane3

    Not sure what you mean by High Fantasy mate but erm what about Lord of the Rings online? The fantasy that started it all hehe.

     

    I personally don't like it. I prefer Aion but that would be too much grind for you at the moment, but the grind will decrease in mid June with the new patch because many people moaned about it.

    Glad to provide. To be fantasy it has to be a setting where magic is king, ie magic users are not unusual. The setting can be of any time, but conjuring lightning storms or firing magic darts from the hand is a must. As far as low/mid/high fantasy, it must have:

     

    Low Fantasy: Human PC races, usually varying by height/skin color, but human.

    Mid-Fantasy: Human-like PC races, ala Elves, dwarves, orcs, gnomes... basically what I call a 2D character (Two arms, two legs).

    High Fantasy: While the number of races doesn't matter, it must include races with multiple limbs, usually legs, or tail only. PC Races would like Centaur, Naga/Lamia, Mermaid, WoW's Dryad, Driders, etc.

     

    LOTRO is mid-fantasy, now that I think about it. I saw the same mid-fantasy collection of races.

    "Of all the things wrong with today's RPGs, 2D characters on a 3D background is the worst."

  • MaNiaGGMaNiaGG Member UncommonPosts: 76

    High fantasy is defined as fantasy fiction set in an alternative, entirely fictional ("Secondary") world, rather than the real ("Primary") world. The secondary world will normally be internally consistent but its rules are in some way different from those of the primary world. By contrast, low fantasy is characterized by being set in the primary world, or a rational and familiar fictional world, with the inclusion of magical elements. ;o)

     

    It's not like 'if i can play a toon with at least three limbs its high fantasy..." =)

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  • inzane3inzane3 Member UncommonPosts: 103

    aah cool didn't know that. Thanks for the info :)

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  • pencilrickpencilrick Member Posts: 1,550

    EQNext is Everquest 3, which I have read is "in the works", but kept top secret at Sony.  Probably will not see it for another couple of years.

  • AIMonsterAIMonster Member UncommonPosts: 2,059

    Originally posted by Shilar

    Originally posted by inzane3

    Not sure what you mean by High Fantasy mate but erm what about Lord of the Rings online? The fantasy that started it all hehe.

     

    I personally don't like it. I prefer Aion but that would be too much grind for you at the moment, but the grind will decrease in mid June with the new patch because many people moaned about it.

    Glad to provide. To be fantasy it has to be a setting where magic is king, ie magic users are not unusual. The setting can be of any time, but conjuring lightning storms or firing magic darts from the hand is a must. As far as low/mid/high fantasy, it must have:

     

    Low Fantasy: Human PC races, usually varying by height/skin color, but human.

    Mid-Fantasy: Human-like PC races, ala Elves, dwarves, orcs, gnomes... basically what I call a 2D character (Two arms, two legs).

    High Fantasy: While the number of races doesn't matter, it must include races with multiple limbs, usually legs, or tail only. PC Races would like Centaur, Naga/Lamia, Mermaid, WoW's Dryad, Driders, etc.

     

    LOTRO is mid-fantasy, now that I think about it. I saw the same mid-fantasy collection of races.

    Basing off the degree of fantasy on races alone?  I think you should have a broader scope there:

    Low Fantasy - Fantasy with a basis in the real world.  Less magicial and mythical creatures (when they do exist in low fantasy, they are typically rare) and more war, politics, and usually a grittier, darker storyline.  Magic is usually very rare and only used by a select few.  Examples of Low Fantasy can usually be found in books like Conan or the Sword of Truth novels. 

    High Fantasy - Anything with loads of magic.  Everything about the world is complete fantasy.  The world often has little in common with our world.  Basically the world is complete imagination and doesn't need to base anything off of our real world.

    Conan has creatures with multiple limbs including I believe a mention of dragons, however these creatures were rare and the majority of the stories revolved around Conan's adventures and his dealing with humans.  The fantasy bits are there to enhance the story, rather than define it.

    Final Fantasy XIV is high fantasy on the other hand, so I also disagree with Shilar defining it as low fantasy.  Even by his definition of the difference between low and high fantasy, FFXIV would be placed in high fantasy since the playable races not only aren't human (only one of the 4 can be directly compared to humans) there are also races that exist outside the playable races that would be defined as high fantasy by his standards (multiple limbed).  Magic is commonplace in the Final Fantasy universe and generally anything in FF games are pure fantasy, such as their airships, chocobos, moggles, magic, materia, ridiculous physically impossible bosses, etc.

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