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Honestly... Is Warhammer Online "Dead"?
FuryV
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I quit WoW a few months ago, and sold my account so unfortunately I can't go back now, even though I'm regretting selling it 
Anyway, it seems the next best thing (gameplay/graphics wise etc) is Warhammer Online. Warhammer Online looks really fun from what I've seen on Youtube and having played the endless trial for a few hours today, but it seems everywhere I go people are saying "it's dead, it's like a ghost town, stear clear!!" etc.
I'm just wondering how true this actually is to be honest. When I start a new MMO I like to go into it with the mindset that I'll be playing it for at least a year or so, and investing a lot of time into it, so I just wanted to know whether it IS infact dead/dying and a ghost town, before I purchase & subscribe to the game.
I know some people will think "well if you enjoy it, what's the problem?" but that's the thing, whilst I may enjoy it, that enjoyment will only last so long if I hardly ever see anybody ingame and the population is constantly on the decline.
So in all honesty, is the game dead/dying or is it worth playing?
Thank you.
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Its fine if your on the right server. Ignore all the scare mongering.
However from release they moved my character three times now and its stuck on a dead, roleplaying server, which I'm not happy about, but that reminds me I might see if i can get another free transfer to a new server.
Edit: Nope still can't move my 40 to a different server. fs
stylin'
With the server merges that they put in it doesn't feel as dead as it once did
t2 and t3 will definetely be a lot less populated than t1 and t4, however there are still peak hours when there is a lot of oRvR activity and active scenario pops (I recommend going order if you want faster sc queues).
Warhammer is a great transition game from WoW. The UI feels similar and pvp is more balanced than most people make it out to be.
I wouldn't say it is well, they did close down the asian servers just. But on the other hand it is most likely not dying, at least not now. But of course, you never know with EA.
My advice is that you do the free trial. If it doesn't work out for you, give EQ2 a trial too, it is closer to Wow but not so close you feel like you already played it.
I know what you mean. . investing time into something you know you will tire of before it is over is not so bad. . .I can't get into Vanguard or WAR for that very reason. I know that doesn't help the population much.
All I can say is that sometimes smaller amounts of people are better as far as community. . also if people know their beloved game is dying they tend to help newbs out more.
WAR has merged servers and there are only a few now but the same is true for AoC . . people say AoC and Vangaurd are enjoying a bit of a comeback however small. . I have not heard anyone say that about WAR. Likely due to the billing issue.
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Bah, I think I'm just so used to the HUGE amount of players I saw on a daily basis in WoW, that nearly every MMO I try these days seems low populated to me, and it's a shame.
When I think of 'dead', i think of a development team. The problem with Warhammer and AOC isn't so much that there isn't anyone around because they keep consolidating servers.. its the speed at which content gets added and bugs get fixed. AOC had a recent paid expansion that added very little to the actual game. The dev team doesn't exist for the most part, same as Warhammer.
It's one of the reasons I like WOW. They are about to launch patch 3.5 which is a minor patch that is barely worth mentioning in terms of wow patches. Except that it contains more new content than the paid expansion for AOC.
And while games are supposed to be fun, there is a certain amount of 'work' involved in developing your character. Do you really want to see ' game will be closing down in 6 months'. That is exactly what happened to me in Earth n Beyond. Warhammer is certainly at risk of that since it is owned by EA who is notorious for shutting down MMORPGs. AOC has a better chance of surviving because Funcom has already shown they don't shut down dead games (AO) they just remove most devs and support staff and milk the players that stick around.
The really cool part is LOTRO and DDO.. both very good games that are now F2P (arguable).
i just recently tryed warhammer online again.....yeah still the same. my honest thought is shut down the game and redo it and relaunch it.
IN THE FACE!
It's far from dead.
Tier 1 and Tier 4 will be very lively. Tier 2 and 3 not so much.
Just do the free trial and if you like the game push on through the next two tiers. there is a lot going on in T4
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I am glad someone made this thread because i was planning to get this game and so now, i will know about the pop. a little bit more.
comparing the drop in population. I would say yes
Have friends who played wow just because they like pvp, went to warhammer and after less then a month were back in wow, so im guessing its not very good pvp game and will follow the steps of age of conans population drop.
Warhammer's fun but it has some major flaws. And population per server isn't one of them....
It's the definition of a button mashing MMO, especially in keep sieges. It's not the population that made me quit playing. It was the lack of....skill needed to master? If you're good at pressing buttons in a certain order, you'll do great at warhammer...
Also, the mass amount of colour and flashes coupled with split seconds of server side lag during a decent keep battle is enough to make anyone go blind....
I resubbed a little over a month ago. There were plenty of people around in tier 4 that I saw but the game just doesn't do it for me.. not enough to justify yet another mmo subscription. They could have done something exquisite with the license but they missed the mark by quite a bit, for me. There did seem to be people running around tho...
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I just did the free "10 day reactivation" and have noticed that T2 and T3 are, for the most part, dead still. Scenarios never pop and you get the occasional warband running around, but not much action. T4 is pretty populated, as is T1 thanks to the endless trial.
Too bad all the characters I wanted to play are in the middle range which is for all intents and purposes, dead.
Well lets see... This game is based on a very well known intellectual property with world wide renown with literally millions of fans, but went from quite a few servers to 4 since its realease. The largest amount of fellow players you will find are the free to play endless demo crowd in the 1-11 level range. If this game isn't dead, then it is at least severely ill.
And since this f-tarded company, a company that created one of the most amazing three faction pvp games ever, took over twenty years of Warhammer lore and compressed it into a game that is little better than a pay per month, fantasy version of counter strike, I figure they deserve to fail.
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Yeah, pretty much how its been for quite awhile.
T1: high pop due to free trial, lots of new players and so called twinks (though usually referred to as twinks by people who just plain fail at PvP basics).
T2: probably about 1/4-1/2 the pop of T1. Some scenarios and RvR throughout the day, off peak hours are kind of slow
T3: even less active than T2, pretty lucky if you get more than 1 scenario or any decent RvR sometimes even during peak hours. most people are off grinding PvE in LOTD to get to T4
T4: pretty well populated, lot of long time players who refuse to leave the game an dhave their guilds and stuff. But as a new T4 player if you make it this far, be prepared to get your ass handed to you if you run into anyone whos been level 40 for awhile, you wont stand a chance without some pretty good help most of the time.
Thats how it is on Badlands, which is the highest pop server, so expect it to be a bit slower on other servers too.
You act as If you can't get level 80 in less than a month and be decked out in full epics as well. If you want to go back to WoW, do it up. As for Warhammer, It's not a bad game but WoW is much better IMO in pretty much every aspect. If you want something different, try Warhammer ... If you miss WoW ... just play WoW.
I'm not playing warhammer now. But I doubt you'll have problem finding people. Consider all they need to do is merge server. Unless they can't even populate 1 server.
Dead? No. On life-support? Yes.
They had a few server merges and that is never a good sign. That they had more then one round is even worse.
Most likely the game will continue for a while with ever less support until finally the parent company pulls the plug when it is starting to cost money.
No MMO has ever come back from a server merge. But many have managed to hang-on with a small dedicated group of fans for a long time indeed. If you like the game, then play it, but be prepared to play with die-hard fans.
Should request a sticky on this page that says
T1- Very busy
T2- Somewhat slow
T3- Pretty slow
T4- Very busy
Your mileage may vary...
You want a PvP MMO you play Warhammer.
It's that simple.
But yeah Warhammers not dead, at least not in tier 4 (endgame) and thats all that matters. All MMOs are "Dead" in the middle tiers usually.
I wouldn't call the campaign that special anymore these days. Which mostly leaves scenario's. When you look at it that way, I really don't see much difference anymore between WoW BG's and WAR SC's. Except that WoW has more options when you're not doing those, not that I'm planning on touching WoW ever anymore.
Still, the parts that are supposed to seperate WAR from WoW just ... kind of suck overall. They have their good moments, but not many.
The MMO world really sucks for PvPers these days
Same for me, I enjoy T2 and T3 most. At these levels characters all have pretty well developed skills and it takes skill and teamwork to win. Also you usually have only around a warband per side so isn't a giant zerg-fest either.
At T4 there are players who can mash their face against the keyboard and win due to gear and RR being the deciding factors. No longer do teamwork or skill matter, it only matters if you got good gear. (cue rr80 fanboi saying zomg you sucks dat why! zomg just get to 80 it not dat hard, blah blah) I have many characters in T4 and I do not enjoy pushing a couple buttons to win anymore than I enjoy having someone do it to me. I just don't see the point in playing a pvp game if there is no competition involved, maybe that is just me. I also got little enjoyment out of WoW BGs unless it was a premade vs premade situation. I failed to see the thrill in slaughtering people who couldn't fight back. Same goes for War, I lose interest pretty quickly in camping the enemies warcamps or pounding them into dust repeatedly when they have no chance.
I am still stunned at how badly they designed and mishandled this game
It could have been great, it could have been the best ever. Maybe Warhammer 40k will deliver?
To be a little more on topic.
I bought the CE, I logged in early to get the names I wanted. I joined a guild with friends, made quite a few new friends. Since then there have been countless server merges, most of my names are now lost due to merges. Guilds I was part of dissolved and gone. Servers down to 4 left and even those 4 are not brimming with people. The parent company is EA.
I think that is a pretty clear picture? I wouldn't say Warhammer is dead but it definitely got run over by ten buses and broke all it's bones and is laying around on life support.
From a new content perspective it's very thin and consists of occasional reworked existing content for example the redesigned city sieges.
It still has a lot of players though, at least enough to make the play experience good and active. T4 RvR is very active up to 5-6 warbands on each side on the busiest nights roaming the RvR zones.
Past server merges for current players are mostly irrelevant. The servers we play now have had stable populations for some time. It does not resemble anything close to a "ghost town".
My advice is get a char into T4 as quickly as you can and get into an active guild.
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I would say try to join an active guild from the start they can give you nice pointers on everything from levelling to making money.