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How many people acctually KNOW the engine?
BlazeFlamme
Member Posts: 5
in Vindictus
I see far to many clueless and raging threads on why its stupid/how its NEW AND AMAZING...
As anyone on mmorpg ever played a source engine game..... if your coming from Nexon at least.
To help the confusion, I know where its from, who it was made by, and how it works done to the bones. but I want to know how much NExon kiddies know about it, as Iv seen lots of them, thinking it was made BY nexon.
As for another question; Does anyone know if re-skins will be allowed, or does that count as "modding" in nexons book. Iv always loved retextureing models in games to my own liking, mainly character/weapons. sometimes NPCs
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Nexon? I always thought Valve owned/created the Source engine..
They did, Im seeing how many people here know that, its sad to see all these NExon kiddies think how epic NExon is for making this game, when all they did was Scripts, Models, and Textures.
Why Nexon thought to use the source engine, Im not sure, as it was DESIGNED for FPS games.
Its gonna make me cry to see all these kids think someone like NEXON made the source engine ='(
Valve did develop the source engine, I have no idea what this guy is talking about. Nexon had nothing to do with it.
Does nobody understand what im gettign at here? I KNOW Valve made it, Iv been playing source engine games for 10 years... again I will say, Im seeing what the nexon kiddies know of it, the poll related answer "a amazing thing nexon made" is to see if people know who made it or not.
Just scripts??
Do you even have a clue how a game ENGINE works, we're not talking about a game that's already been made from an engine i.e counter-strike source or Half life 2. All you get when you buy the source engine is basically a library of code that can be called upon to do certain functions such as lighting, loading textures models / props and sounds.
I think YOU need to go back and learn exactly what a game engine is.
Well I guess "kids" is a good way of putting it, 'cause anyone that has been a gamer for atleast the last decade should know lol.
If you really want me to go in every bit of detail, I will sir. Iv been up all night working on my mod, with just pretty much is, Scripts/models/textures.
I know that Nexon had lots of coding them selfs to do. But what im really trying to say is, theres kids thinking Nexon made everything here, and it bugs me, Source's creator should be known correctly, as its one the best out there, along with Unreall and Cry engines.
stop it mate, you make yourself looking really stupid here
A mod doesn't even compare in complexity to a game being made from the ground up. You need to be quiet you're making yourself look quite foolish.
Yes, the engine is good. Yes, the game is awesome. What are you trying to say here? There are 209054 upcoming MMOs that use the unreal engine 3 if that means the game will be great then why not use it? Also, what is so bad about people liking this MMO? People hate bad games. People hate good games. WTF
Exact same engine used for VtM:Bloodlines, only updated since then.
So yes, it should work fine, as it did for all the other online games that use it as well.
(I realise that's not even the question here)
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I know about the engine, I know valve made it. But I'm a 33 years old gamer. Probably a lot of kiddies dont know that.
It wasnt dificult to understand what the op was talking about.
Wow...just...wow. Reading the first page of responses reminded me why my faith in humanity is so low. At least some of the posters actually Read what the OP was writing. More people should learn to read before hitting the reply button.
Nothing wrong with wanting to make sure credit is given where credit is due. Although, I do not quite agree with the method used, the language, or the majority of his replies.
It should be noted, though, that Nexon is openly advertising that they use Valve's Source Engine. It's just that (again) people don't bother to read.
To be honest, this BlazeFlamme guy just sounds anal
I don't really see why it's really important for everyone that plays Vindictus to know the background on the Source engine. And from the looks of your poll, no one even took the option "Source is the Engine that Nexon created". Secondly, this isn't the first time that an MMO uses a engine made for a FPS for an MMO. Aion uses the CRY engine which was originally made for the game Far Cry. Should this mean Aion should get half the credit for the success of the game?
Nexon states they are using the Source engine and I don't think they need to do more. If Vindictus is a success, I'll give the credit to Nexon and not to Valve corporation. Valve only sold the tools to make the game.
I also doubt many people will say that Nexon made the source engine. Instead, they'll say that Nexon made the game, and that's the only fact most people really needs to know. Whether the game will be a success or failure, the praise or fault will go to Nexon. If the game fails or succeeds because of the choice of the engine, the fault/success will still go Nexon since they made the choice of choosing that engine.
It's amazing how the Source engine has stood the test of time. And who knows maybe it will become more popular than using the Unreal 3 engine that some MMORPGs seem to be utilizing in the near future.
As far as what Nexon is doing w/ the game, I'm a bit amazed to see an and action MMORPG look like it's trying to do God of War in an mmo setting. Hope it works out for them as it seem rather ambitious.
Good luck to Nexon!
its demonsoul based game it wil be awesome (well it looks like >.>)
Yeah, I really feel the need to demonstrate my knowledge/lack of, to someone. $*%^ off OP!!!
A friendly reminder - Nexon doesn't *make* games.
They are a publisher, server host and only do the localization (translations). They have a little bit of development credentials, but this is only when it comes to how the CS works in the game, they don't do jack other than that. Look at the info on the game and you'll see DevCat is the developer, Nexon is the publisher.
I wish people would get the distinction that a publisher does not =/= a developer. EA doesn't make games either, they just own the livelyhood of tons of development studios and throw them money.
So the next time you say "Nexon did a good job", you are bascially transferring the credit to the investors, which is crap.
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DevCat is an INTERNAL studio of nexon, i'd say they can take/get as much credit for the game as they want. Even if they weren't, without a publisher the game doesnt get.. well.. published.
I'd say thats a rather important step of a game cycle.
And not to put a dampner on your whole "down with the publisher" thing you have going on here, but EA DOES make games, they have internal studio's, which they have payed for, they fund, that makes games.
It seems by your definition, the only developers, are ones that aren't owned by anyone.
Internal studios are bought out, annexed, what-have-you. Nexon and EA still don't make games, they just have certain teams under their employ that have far more expected out of them. A self-publishing developer is SOE, even with the web of intrigue that is the Sony umbrella pulling the strings behind them.
"Down with publishers!!!"
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Sorry.. what?
SOE is just a subsiduary of Sony, that publishes and develops. If i understand what you are trying to say, it's ok to be owned by a publisher, but only if you publish your own games?
Because they merely bought individuals to come develop a game, instead of say, an entire dev company, that makes it ok?
I have a feeling we will have to agree to disagree.