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Star Wars: The Old Republic: Comic-Con Expectations
SBFord
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MMORPG.com Community Manager Michael Bitton has some thoughts about what folks attending this week's Comic Con in San Diego, CA might find out about Star Wars: The Old Republic. What will Bioware be bringing in its bag of goodies to show off to convention attendees? See what Mike thinks people will see in his Comic-Con Expectations article.
The show season is in full-swing and the train is making its next stop in sunny San Diego for the San Diego Comic-Con this week! Of course with every show eager fans are hopeful to hear more about their game of choice (in this case, Star Wars: The Old Republic!), and speculation has already run rampant throughout our forums, the official forums, and all over the ‘net.
Check out SWTOR: Comic Con Expectations and let us know what you think.
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EDIT: I kind of didn't say what I meant to when I originally posted. I meant to say that WoW at least had player interaction on a massive scale with the 40 mans in vanilla, and so far this game hasn't looked like it will do the same. The emphasis on a single player story and companion characters are things that replace the need for a community. Unless they come out and say that the story finishes quickly and there is a lot of player interaction then I will be disappointed.
I honestly feel bad for Bioware because they really should be doing what they do best; Mass Effect 3, Dragon Age 2, and some new games as well. I just can't find myself caring about this world that Bioware is placing me in because I know I will have no effect on anybody, even if I "save the galaxy" or fight all the bad guys.
I played Baldur's Gate, ME, Dragon Age, and KOTOR and love Bioware's products. But I don't want Bioware in my MMO's. If they came out and said, okay, we're going to emphasize the need for a community and group tactics then I would have said okay, great job. But they say that story needs to be improved. I want story out of MMO's and I want to be able to make the story for myself in a game where I actually have an effect on the environment.
And they definitely had the budget to make such a game but simply chose not to do so. And I hope that I am wrong about them and that in two years I am playing SWTOR because I love Bioware. But right now they haven't released anything to me to change my feelings of disappointment about the game.
I honestly don't understand what you want the game to be. They have some really solid concepts, art, and animation.
Player Housing will be in at launch, something WoW never had.
25 and 40 man raids suck. They are repetitious and even when new encounters are added it's the exact same mechanics with newly skinned dungeons and NPCs.
Maybe you're just jumping on the "it's cool to bag on upcoming games with any modicum of hype" bandwagon, or maybe you have some well thought out reasons as to why you have such a strongly negative opinion about the game.
I, on the other hand, do not even begin to share your sentiment.
-The lore behind the game is solid and very engrossing.
-What I've seen of the voice acting is both solid and well written.
-The gameplay looks fun.
There's not much to dislike about the game.
You're never going to find a game where you will become a special and unique snowflake who can single handedly shape and change the game world for everyone else.
Even in table top games, which are infinitely more fluid and adaptable than MMORPGs, you won't single handedly change the game world... unless the DM caters the whole campaign to you, which would probably mean that you would be the only player in the campaign.
What would be the fun in that?
agree 100% with kryogenic. What the heck DO you want the game to be people????
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Just because you don't find yourself caring about the world Bioware is creating doesn't mean that this applies to others too.
Of course, it's all speculation at this point, one speculation is as valid as the next.
So here's mine: although the amount of naysayers will be big and vocal, the information released in the months preceding the launch will show on what Bioware has been spending their budget on, a fully fledged MMO with all the features you can expect.
Even though opponents and haters will keep pointing towards the lack of innovation compared to other MMO's like GW2 and to the cartoony graphics, SW:TOR will have a successful launch and sub numbers that continue to be huge as word-of-mouth and reviews show what other people had suspected for a long time: Bioware has done it again, and delivered a polished and highly immersive MMO.
That was my speculation
PS: besides, if people would only keep doing what they do best at a certain time, the Bioware founders would never have started Bioware in the first place but kept on following up their medical careers, and Blizzard would have kept making RTS and hack&slash RPG's instead of WoW.
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The ease with which predictions are made on these forums:
Fratman: "I'm saying Spring 2012 at the earliest [for TOR release]. Anyone still clinging to 2011 is deluding themself at this point."
to be fair no one really wants a hater in there game so not a big lose lol
Yep, this post pretty much says it all. I am, at best, a modest Star Wars fan, but this game has me pumped.
Not WOW in space? No 40 man raids that require weeks of grinding to have gear acceptable to the uber geeks so they will allow you to play with them? Well shit ......when can I preorder?
WOW isnt great because it has 12 million players. WOW has 12 million players because its great.
I don't think he is saying that he has to be unique or a world changer, just that he doesn't like the idea of being led through game where the concept is to follow a story-line (where most of the content will be solo-able or with "pets") as that goes against what he likes in a mmorpg. He probably likes more open world, players make the story, group dirven type game, which is fun, as well. And I'm not trying to speak for poster, just vibe I got from his post. All games developed have had to make decisions on what the game will have in it and what mechanics/concept they will focus on. I think this game will be a fun story-driven game, with star wars type action, characters and "powers" that will be similar to other games, except for the IP. I do like the idea of choices PC's can make in the story to change the outcome. So there will be some "impact" on the story, if not the world. It won't be for some people, but many will like and play it. As for me, I'm still on the fence and will probably wait a week after launch before deciding. I tend to do this anyway, because of so many bad launches lately or undelivered promises. Been burned before, but Bioware seems to be a dev that will not launch until it is ready. Anyway, we've got until next year to argue about it. hehe
Same I can't wait for it to come out.
This game is putting out a new concept that hasn't seen in any other MMO, I am looking forward to it.
I hope the secret announcement is pie for everyone....I like pie.
I see where lethys is coming from and I don't think that he's doing any hating on SW:TOR.
I'm not a big Star Wars fan, I enjoyed it but it's not 'up there' for me as an IP. I'm taking the approach of an MMO player and a Bioware fan. To that end I'm expecting a finely crafted story with a rich lore, the videos have shown me some great co-op moments, I'm a GW fan so co-op is fine. They haven't revealed much else yet that's of great interest to anyone who isn't a fan of the IP and/or isn't a fan of Bioware.
Combat looks nice, animations look nice, graphics are fine, classes revealed are fine etc, but apart from story and voice acting where is the 'oomph!' that sets this apart from any other upcoming AAA MMO? I have no doubt it's going to be a lovely co-op theme park ride and I'll definitely be playing it, I would just like to hear something that gets me really excited.
I still find it odd that they advetise a game at a comic book convention... Seriously what ever happened to it being about comics
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i think in a way we're kinda pushing for the game to fail. It not nor will it ever actually appease every person who wants to play. one of the worse trappings of making an mmo is the proverbial dilemma over appeasing a core fan base and making money. Bioware is in the unique position that for ever 5 peopel that likes kotor there was at least one who hated dialogue trees and choppy combat. what i truly think is going to stiffle the game is the time period it's set in. Personally if this was more a reimaging of swg i think alot fewer people would be up in arms. For people that havent embraced all the novels and fan fiction alot of what's going to be present in the game is going to leave them feeling lost. and i have to wonder to with lego universe launching soon and their inevitable acees to the ip in soem form few kinds will play the old republic.
so say we all
I am a huge SW/TOR fan and I agree with lethys, the story for each class while likely good - will not change the fact that the Trooper next to you (Assume you are a trooper) will have let a guy live that you let die, and in his canon he is still alive. Making your story null when you are grouped with him.
You can literally go on for hours with those types of examples, but really all that needs to be said is, "The game had better have an unrivaled amount of polish, polish we all know Bio-ware is capable of". Because for some people, more than a lot of people may think - are completely turned off to experiencing a story in this manner.
People think it's fun to pretend your a monster. Me I spend my life pretending I'm not. - Dexter Morgan
There is a simple solution to that problem. If you don't want Bioware in your MMO's than simply do not play it , and let the folks that are excited about the game enjoy it without having to hear your crying? NO offense mate, but all this complaining in every topic is really bringing me down. Cheers / I hope if you do decide to play the game you enjoy it.
I want to see some PVP combat out of commy con . I guess would like to see some of the warzone, or the world pvp. Maybe a show of how vast the lands are and some other unanswered questions that people have , such as races, and end game stuff.
Let's hope there will be ice cream too!
/thread win
Maybe someday intelligent, non-biased comments with descent counterpoints will spontaneously appear in gaming forums without fanbois flooding a thread with thoughtless spam.
If you like a game, you are biased. If you dislike a game, you are biased.
The game isn't out yet, but people are in love with it and people loathe it.
I am excited to try the game. I am a star wars nerd. I hope the game is great, but we shall see.
To me bioware has yet to do wrong. i cant see why this game will not do great. The comment that bioware has nothing to this game but "story" seems off to me. I highly doubt that bioware has just made a story game with nothing else to entertain us. Personaly i think that they just want to keep some of it off the books to gave us a nice surpize. why do we need to know this soon about what the game is going to be about? Lets face it guys we will not know truely what this game will be about till it is released.
That was your first mistake right there. Thinking you would find an intelligient conversation on the gaming forums. Second problem is, game has not came out yet and people are about sick and tired of hearing this game already. Your arguement is the same arguement 1000 of other people before you have came up with. Nothing new here. Yea, we want to see something good at the commy con, but whatever, Bioware isn't gonna do what we want anyhow.
"So, to be more specific, I definitely love me some Bioware story, but I simply want to hear about something else, anything else! I’ve been feeling a bit lukewarm (pardon the lame Star Wars pun) about the bits and pieces of non-story elements I’ve seen on the game so far, and I’m not trying to be an alarmist here, but sometimes I wonder if Bioware isn’t talking about all those other things because there simply isn’t much of note to talk about."
I said THIS same thing about a year ago, and I was flamed so much I had to leave MMORPG.com for a while to recover. Now a year has passed and we still haven't heard ANY real details about anything substantial what makes SWTOR a MMO.
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