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yanje03
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upgrade your graphic card is the most cost efficient way to play FFXIV. But before decide which card to buy, please check your PCI-E bus before buy it (dont buy online if u are not 100% sure that card will work better for your pc). new ATI card doesn't support any PCI-E x16 1.0 version. Nvidia card might be the only choice. GTX 460 is recommend for an 2-3 year old pc system. Nvidia card may increase electric bill and louder but it is definitely compatiable to most game and motherboard.
may need upgrade power supply when upgrade graphic card, it is super easy but check the air flow direction which may cause some problem.
6G memory is enough, anything more than that won't help
a solid state hard drive is very good to improve your pc loading time and reducing lag sometime for online game
overlock CPU speed is cool but if your pc is from a major brand, then you can forget it. Their bios are locked and you have 5% chance to overclock the CPU
what I real want to remind is ATI card need PCI-E 2.1 bus and many 3 years old motherboard doesn't support it.
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current ati cards will operate just fine with pci-e 2.0. also pci-e 2.0 came out in 2007 so 3 year motherboards will likely have it.
pci-e 2.1 operates at the same speed as 2.0.
there is a wiki you can look at here
I current am using a ati 5850 in a pci-e 2.0 motherboard and have no problems what so ever
if you or anyone else is interested in a current gen video card check out my link in my sig, both nvidia and ati have something to offer so choose wisely
edit: solid state hard drives have shown minimal performance increase and imo is not worth it unless you have nothing else to upgrade
So please backup your statements and advise with facts..
From the testresults its was clear that processor speed was more important then the GPU, if you lack the minimum CPU power then its useless to upgrade your graphics board.
Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)
was this directed at me? cause i will dig up some stuff if i need to
No it was directed at the OP and many others that come up with facts they can't backup.
Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)
that's super funny because from everything i've read GPU made up 95% of the score.....
to add.... hurr durr, if you lack ANY of the minimum requirements then it is pointless to upgrade something else. Isn't that kind of..... common sense?
"Lets see, i have a GPU that meets the requirements but a cpu that doesnt, LETS UPGRADE MY GPU!!!!"
Thats incorrect...
At low resolution, CPU power reigns the benchmark results. At higher resolution GPU becomes more important... But only if the CPU is good enough. Popping a top level GPU in a 3 year old system will not bring you that much if your results at low resolution where allready below par.
Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)
That's incorrect
Everything you said is wrong
See i can claim stuff too.
And back to my original point.... if you dont have the minimum requirements then OF course you are going to upgrade the part that doesnt meet the mimimum requirements. Again, isn't that common sense.
Short of raping the NDA i can promise you that as long as you meet the requirements to play the game, a GPU upgrade the most efficient upgrade.
Guess its up to the readers to listen to the guy that claims he read somewhere that something may be a certain way or the guy that "may or may not" have experience.
Just go and watch the benchmark results that have been posted on this forum a zillion times before and you'll see my proof. Can you use the search function or do i need to link?
Or do you really think this is the first time we are having this discussion.
http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/showthread.php?t=94743
There it is the link... just have a look at the high settings and see how much difference CPU makes.... compare number 20 on that list "MAstamind" with number 2 "KillerC"same graphics card... 50% higher score just because of CPU.
Also the analysis of the results says:
Analysis: Even though it says The Way It's Meant to be Played stamped across the top, GPU manufacturer thankfully does not seem to be a factor. When comparing similiar GPU/CPU configurations (Saulin/Killerc, Tri/Kuro, etc), the scores are pretty identical and in-line with what you would expect from the varying clocks. CPU seems to be a larger than average(compared to other games/benches) factor at high settings, and completely dominates low settings to the point where GPU hardly matters at all.
And i agree with that based on 20 years computer knowledge i can say these results are explained correctly backing up their statement with the bare facts of the numbers in this post
Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)
probly explains why recommended needs a x6 phenom 2 im getting one as soon as i can.
I love this kind of stuff.
Now I wonder what the OP will do when he is gonna try to reclaim what he told us in his first post...
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Dear OP,
While I appreciate the sentiment behind your post, you should be aware that you came across as a Nvidia salesman. If you had bothered to do even the slightest bit of research, you would be aware that 2.0 and 2.1 are backwards compatible with 1.0.
For most people I still think it would be the GPU that matters most, though I can understand your sentiment.
PC makers have been cutting corners on the GPU and RAM since.. well.. forever. And if you built your system yourself you know where your bottlenecks are.
Benchmark is just a movie, not the actual game running and has essentially been noted as an innacurate measurement for this game and virtually pointless other than as a stress tester for your machine.
KTHXBAI
"current ati cards will operate just fine with pci-e 2.0. also pci-e 2.0 came out in 2007 so 3 year motherboards will likely have it.
pci-e 2.1 operates at the same speed as 2.0.
there is a wiki you can look at here
I current am using a ati 5850 in a pci-e 2.0 motherboard and have no problems what so ever
if you or anyone else is interested in a current gen video card check out my link in my sig, both nvidia and ati have something to offer so choose wisely
edit: solid state hard drives have shown minimal performance increase and imo is not worth it unless you have nothing else to upgrade"
not fine, your motherboard is new enough since it is pci 2.0 bus. I have returned 2 ati card in roll , none of them could work in my 3 year old pc. my pc bought like 2 and half year ago with Core2 duo cpu. if you do a little bit search, you could see many people have trouble to use new ATI card. even 2 year old ATI card can't work with PCI-E1.0. be sure your bus is 1.1 or higher. any way ATI card is suck from compatiable point of view. ATI claim their GPU will use PCI-E 2.1. 2.1 isn't compatiable with 1.0 bus.
1st beta test the game first before u waste money on a new card, I know alot of ppl wont be playing it after they tested it.
Its always fun listening to some of the mechanical talk with desktops and figuring out what to upgrae for x title. I think FFXIV has become a poster child for this scenario and is going to be tuff cookies for those looking to do so. The heavy system requirements are something new to everyone and there hasnt been an mmo yet with these kinda requirements. IV yet to see a perfect score for this benchmark if some one has it would be enlightening to say the least. Im a laptop fan my self so I cant debate on what works with what on desktops but Im also an ATI fan so I could only suggest something ATI. I like nvidia to, theres alot of nice stuf that has come from them as of latly, with mobile having optimus, and the 3d stuff. If I was going to chose a card I would go for the 350 dollar nvidia 470 myself, or a ATI 5870 on sale. Either was I would think they would be able to play anything youd like just fine.