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I have to say, this game's potential is way up for me.
Hagonbok
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What with the info starting to stream in regarding how the factions will be handled, how PvP will be set up, and the general "smarts" the people surrounding it seem to have, I'm actually getting fired up about a game again. For me the biggest encouraging thing is seeing developers that seem to get melding PvP and factional conflict. As opposed to just another ho hum, "rah rah everyone kill everyone else for no reason!" PvP game.
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I agree with you mate. Factional rvr is always to be preferred over the more simplistic shoot em up style.
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Mark E. Cooper
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Yea I'm with you guys on this.
Got to say at first I thought 'this sounds good', then more info came out and it was 'nahhhh' and after reading that latest E3 report I think it's something I want to try out.
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Yep paying a subscription for an arcade shooter is a new idea.
It should be a huge success for a month or two.
So far there's nothing that even remotely indicates that it will be that kind of game you suggest. In fact many of the concepts now going into JGE are part and parcel of one of the deepest and most enjoyable mmos that has been in this genre to date. It's people that are new to the genre that don't seem to see the potential. That is unfortunate, but not surprising these days.
Just saw the two videos on the JGE forums. New content as of 8/5/10.
This game looks EXACTLY like freelancer...a well-known single player ARCADE space shooter.
So basically EXACTLY what I said is the case. Hagonbok maybe you should go take a look for yourself.
It's fanbois that refuse to see reality...but that is not surprising these days.
So they show one facet of the game, and it reminds you of another game, and so it must be going to be just like it in all other respects?
Yes, that's the way to draw conclusions alright. You simply can't be taken seriously after that mate.
Wow...video isn't even enough for some people.
Well when it comes out and you've blown your 60 smackers on it let us all know how happy you are...two months after you buy it.
I've been saying for a while now what they have said they will offer will be kewl for about 2 months, then it'll go on the back shelf and nobody will care anymore.
STO anyone?
Heh, you can't even see how silly you look drawing your conclusions the way you have. That is too funny.
You can't even see how silly you look assuming this game will do better than the HUGE number that came before it with the same failed concepts, the same failed ideas, the same failed lack of depth, the same failed PVP centric gameplay, the same failed lack of real content.
Again, tell us what you think 2 months after release. I will NOT be purchasing this game prior to that point if at all.
Black Prophecy is free. Since the lore in JGE is irrelevant now, there is no reason to stick with it over BP.
So if you've made up your mind (without ever experincing the game) then why are you posting about it then?
Silence is acceptance. I don't give up and just accept. I get mad and bitch about it.
There is little more I can do as I do not work for ND and have no authority to tell them they are morons in a business environment.
Why do I keep answering you? Same reason you keep answering me, neither of us wants to just stop...for whatever reason.
Give it a rest mate.
Ok, we got it already. The game is going to suck as clearly shown on the 2 min footage in the 2 videos. And Black Prophecy is going to rock as clealry shown on the videos on BP website.
Move on.
I have a reason to post though. I'm still feeling positive about the game and will continue to be so until I see some info that changes that outlook. I don't say the game is going to be great given what little we know about it still, but what info they have released is in line with my tastes. I won't know for sure until I've seen the game in action for myself though.
You on the other hand have made up your mind without ever experiencing it, and off of very very limited information. You've stated so, which is entirely your right even though it's clearly too soon to draw such conclusions, but any reasonable person would just move on after doing so.
If you had experienced the game I'd defend your right to express your displeasure repeatedly whether I agreed with you or not. If you had actually spent money on the game even more so.
As it is, you just come off as "whaa whaa whaa, they're not making it like I would have so its going to suck!", and thus as I said, simply can't be taken seriously in my opinion.
Been keeping up with the game since 2007 when it was announced.
Listened to numerous dev's and people in positions to know say it's going to be this...going to be that.
6 months pass, it's not going to do this, it's not going to do that.
6 months pass, here's a video.
6 months pass, here's why that video no longer counts.
6 months pass - we're changing everything, we'll let you know
6 months pass - We've decided to do away with the game as you know it and start a new game, details to follow.
6 months pass - none of the features you've been hearing about and waiting on will exist not EVEN the lore, which we've changed to the point it's not even Jumpgate anymore. We've gotten rid of the people at the company that you cared about and that told you all this. We're not doing anything like we said...for more than a year...we would do. We've decided to go against most of what the older fans wanted.
This is what many of us have experienced.
The child is talking about me whining...too funny. Again tell us what you think in two months when the game is losing subs.
I'm pretty sure I'm older than you pup, and you're not the only one that's been following the game since it was announced. It's just that most people had figured out long ago that as it was proposed before, it was going to languish as a very niche market game hanging on by it's fingernails, if it would have been able to hang on at all.
You seem oblivious to the fact that it was mainly "members of the JGE community" that were in the first testing and told ND that what they had just wouldn't work. Maybe you're just butt hurt because you weren't one of them? Or because you were in the minority? Kind of sounds like it to me.
Not to mention the huge amount of respect ND gained by actually listening to their testers and taking such a drastic step as they did.
I'm not sure what age has to do with anything. Maybe you should act yours if your so ancient there grandpa.
The testing they had did not include ANY of the JGE community. It was friends and family only. They have never even gone into closed beta testing.
If you had kept up with anything you'd know this...
Also I am not aware of any respect ND has gotten by delaying beyond two separate announced dates. Most sites I have seen have called their game everything from doomed to Vaporware.
Not until the recent string of movies and interviews in the last several months have they gotten any good press to speak of.
Again something you would know if you did anything other than spout your fanboi silliness to all that will listen.
As for being in the minority. They took a poll on JGE and those that agree with me outnumbered those that spout your nonsense by more than 2 to 1.
Jovian, the loudmouth braggart that runs your squad, was shut up nicely by the person that ran the poll. He tried doing the same thing your doing, spouting your opinion as pure fact, and was shut up when everyone answering refused to listen to his BS.
It wouldn't surprise me, reading the crap your writing here, if you were not the same loudmouth braggart in a different name.
For the 10th time, after the game has been out for 2 months, let me know how you still feel.
You keep blathering on about nothing but your opinion, that's what I'm asking for...just not right now since we both know...from what you have said on here, you don't really know jack crap.
Editing to add this,
They didn't change based on people from the community. They changed because everyone that knew what the community wanted had either left NetDevil or been fired. Most of us still assume they were fired for telling those in charge they were idiots and making bad business decisions.
That's all on the forums too but you have to actually take the time to read them instead of blathering on them.
You're just simply posting false information.
In truth the majority of people in the thread you're talking about either were in support of the changes made or stated they would wait for more info before making any decisions. Furthermore, many of the people that said they were against the changes were one time posters never seen before and not seen since... curious that eh? Duplicate accounts anyone? Ya that was easy to see through. Somebody really isn't very bright thinking that no one would notice.
Not to mention that many others have since read what some of the more level headed and resonable posters have been saying, have actually thought about things, and have begun to see the great potential for fun game play that's now there. (Is that what's got you so mad? That reason and experience is winning out over childish rage and uninformed hyperbole?) Sorry.
Please posts links to these sites that are saying all these things about JGE.
That you know so little about just who was testing the game shows you just don't know much about anything JGE related. If YOU really were following the game as long as you said you were, and were even semi-acive in the community, and didn't get into the F&F testing, then that might be a hint for you there about something... just saying....
You really need a crying towel kid. Is the next step holding your breath and stomping your feet? Keep it up though. You're giving a large group of people on a particular vent server some great comedy material. It's rare we get to see someone so pathetic. Your childish rage feeds us, and your baby tears are like wine.
And...what was the point of this response other than to cry waaah booh hooh I'm right and your wrong?
For the 11th time...two months after the game releases, let me know what you think.
Have you been ignoring the many times I've said this so you can continue to blather on about the nonsense you've been spouting?
By the way I like how you ignored all the points I made in my many posts in an effort to stear clear of fact.
You have shown a politician's skill in avoiding subjects you have no clue about.
http://community.codemasters.com/forum/jumpgate-development-chat-1081/402151-jumpgate-evolution-receives-vaporware-award.html
Here's a link on the forums you claim don't mention what I'm talking about, one of many posts i might add silly little person.
Here's one on this site if your too lazy to actually read the JGE forums...which we already know to be true. You just bitch on there.
http://www.mmorpg.com/blogs/Caab/012008/1082_Its-all-vaporware
Here's one that says JGE made EVERY vaporware list that exists....
http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/53658/Jumpgate-Evolution-Still-In-The-Works
Another Vaporware awards winner list...
http://news.bigdownload.com/2009/12/23/big-downloads-2009-pc-game-vaporware-awards/
I could keep going but what's the point...I got tired of chooseing after noticing 17 pages of links came up from my first google search.
Research is your friend not just big words.
How about you post some links showing support for the new game design. Maybe something by somebody other than your squad?
First of all, you're posting some links from 2008 and 2009, one is just a blog post by a member of this site (you by another name maybe?), one from this year that actually dispells the rumours (roflcopters), and best of all one that doesn't even mention JGE. To show how worthless these "lists" are, that one had Starcraft II at the top of the list (lol you can't even read your own "evidence").
Your point was that it is BEING called vapourware. It not being called that at all since the game came out of the blackout and the announcement of the direction change. Its very common for games to get called vapourware when they're taking a little longer than noobs think they should, or when they go into a news blackout (which was the case with JGE for awhile). It's only been in development for three years. That's not long for any mmog. Not even close.
It's still getting thousands and thousands of people signing up for an opportunity to beta test it, it's now getting many more people signing up to the forums excited about the game, and the level headed part of the community is getting fired up talking about the exciting possibilties the game now could have in store.
Fail moar pup.
I had hopes that JGE would essentially be EvE with twitch combat, more or less like the original JG was, but we'll see now how it turns out
I love how roles are reversed and now Hangbok is a fanboy. I love the sweet irony of the situations. Its quite true that every fanboy is a troll as long as they are not playing their favorite videogame.
90% of haters are begging for love. 10% just want a little attention -- Paulo Coelho
No, it's not.
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The person who is certain, and who claims divine warrant for his certainty, belongs now to the infancy of our species.
Are they charging a subscription fee now mrwolf? I honestly haven't been keeping up with it so wouldn't know. The last time I checked it was subscription free, but that could change.
subscription free doesnt mean free...its going to be CS based and i bet theyre going to make it so that you have to use it to enjoy the game, lets just hope it wont be overpriced
I've heard all the arguments for RMT making something not free. If you can play the game without paying a fee, it's free.
Difficulty is subjective to the player.
JGE is subscription based. So your paying for it regardless.