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Final Fantasy XIV to include a fatigue system
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If the system would work like explained in the OP, I can think of only one reason for it. Severe lack of content.
Reducing time players can play the content will last longer. Otherwise, it would be completely retarded business decision for SE to go this direction, as most MMOs have proven beyond a reasonable doubt that a carrot works better than a stick.
"The person who experiences greatness must have a feeling for the myth he is in."
Yes, this is lame but it's very typical of SE. They can do what ever they like with their game, impose death penalties and forced grouping like in FF11 or this new fatique. A shame too because I was hoping SE would finally give westerners a break. Some neat things in FF14, like the gathering and professions running the economy but those don't out weigh the bad points like the fatique and the lack of mouse support. I mean, it is a PC game..doh.
SE wants it's player base to be in it for the long haul. A lot less work for them if it takes a year or more for a player to get to level cap, they don't have to worry about constant new content to keep us interested. Again, typical SE.
I do think that they want players to level all the weapons since those are the driving force rather than a class. You hit the exp wall with a pole arm, switch to a sword and poof, you are getting exp again. Or, use the cool down time to gather and skill up your prof.
I won't be getting the game on release, that's for sure. Oh, there are enough people who will jump on it and "hope" SE changes but the changes sure would come faster if release day sales didn't make their mark.
Could they make this game any worse? Lol, now I won't even try a free trial if they ever made one.
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Everyone on this site:
1: MMORPGs are DOOMED, and I have the answers to save them!
2: THIS game's gonna kill WoW!
3: I wish things would go back to the Golden Age of MMORPGs, which only existed in my mind...
This game has lots of problems that are valid, and are completely ignored by fanboys.
Then you have this mostly fabricated issue, and everyone takes it seriously? sad. I'd tell you guys to read the whole topic instead of believing OP BS, but I honestly don't give a crap.
Haha 2 accounts from 04 with 4 and 6 posts chiming in with their uninformed trolling. Here we go!!! I love how every game leading up to launch gets swarmed with trolls and alt accounts spreading misinformation and doom and gloom.
KEEP YOUR PREORDERS EVERYONE. The original poster has outdated and false information as stated by the devs.
Devs just commented on the system on zam.com.
http://ffxiv.zam.com/story.html?story=23080
and try to undo the damage done by editing past posts to show a link to the new updated information on this game, get the word out.
** INFORMATION ALERT **** ***** INFORMATION ALERT ***** **** INFORMATION ALERT**
im not gonna edit jack shit
basically Tanaka said ABSOLUTLY NOTHING about how the "surplus system" (heh, i guess calling it something different makes a difference right?) works
"no, rumors are fake"...oh yeah genius, instead of blaming others why dont you prove (you know, proofs) that it is fake...
when they disclose how it works I'll edit the topic. not a single second before, and definetly not because someone, after watching the shitstorm that has been created about the topic, still fails to provide factual information to his "no you" kiddy rebuttals...
apparently Mr. Tanaka isnt confident enough that explaining how the system really works would put an end to the shitstorm....imo that speaks volumes about what is really going on there...
Well they just announced it officially. It is simply 8 hours of 100% bonus XP per class per week. After the 8 hours the bonus dwindles for 7 more hours to 0%. Basically it is 15 hours of bonus XP per class per week. It is just a rested xp system with different wording and values and it is per class not per char and includes all crafting/harvesting classes.
now this is a whole different ballgame...please be kind enough to post the source and I'll edit the OP to reflect on that...
I have to agree with this, this game is a piece of crap now.
I would understand if they made seperate servers, and allowed players to play like this if they choose to, however doing this on all servers, and making to so it takes 2 days cool down for fatigues, and all this type of stuff is annoying, and a waste of a perfectly good mmo.
Ummm, you should read up a little on what it really is now, its nothing but awesomesauce additional XP silly!
Yet if they were ell you you get a bonus for 8 hrs on each class/week, I bet you'd be fine with it.
Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?
Final Fantasy 7
Still no official word on it I think. Supposedly it's beta players explaining that information but it's not official.
http://www.ff14news.com/
It was posted through an official source in Japanese. It may or may not be added to the NA/EU tester sites, etc.
Perfect example of why Tanaka is 'Fatigued'. What is up with people these days... Forums used to be a fun place to hang out and share info now you have emo teens who just get way too extreme.
Why do I get a funny feeling that after seeing the shitstorm from their surplus system, SE is hard at work changing it to be more like rested xp, and will use the old fasioned japanese xenofobia to cover it up..
"Surplus like it was in beta never happend! It was those damn foreigners , its all their fault! Cake was served!"
It's why it's a "BETA" build. They're still working on and tuning all the systems so that they function best for the majority of the player base.
How bout some more rampant speculation? :
What if surplus rank stretches out the bonus time by a factor of "X" for each week.
Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?
Final Fantasy 7
PLEASE GO READ:
http://www.ffxivcore.com/topic/11964-surplus-and-you-komoto-speaks/
AND GET OVER IT, THANKS.
Well, since the craziness is now over, looks like this is all that is left to be done.
(DISCLAIMER - The use of the word YOU in the above post is not directed at any one person in particular, but towards those who fall into the category itself - there is no personal attack here, neither intentional nor implied.)
Wow even!
My pre-order just got cancelled, until they decide to not RULE the players!!
This is probably the stupidest thing I have heard of to date on a game
"Huntress"
My take on it?
The 'fatigue' system feels negative in explantion (translation) so, yes, there is going to be a massive backlash from a western audience. I think it's a difference of culture then anything else. Penalizing a western audience for playing a lot is going to piss them all off. Dictating what a western audience can do is pretty much going to do that.
So explaining it as a negative or as a 'control' is probably the exact worst SE can do. Which is why you've got all the rampant backlash hatred going on right now.
If it was basically just you get bonus experience for being logged off? I'd say cool. But, I played the beta.
I never hit the surplus xp wall, myself. But then again, I never got to class rank 14 with anything, either. I hear that's when it starts.
Still - I hope it isn't as it was described by the OP, and I sure don't hope it's how it was described by "Surplus and You", either.
If they want to help bolster casual play - then do that. Don't penalize people who rush to the end.
Honestly, they should worry less about the hardcore players then the casual ones. It's the casual gamers that pay for subscriptions over the long run. So what if someone rushes to the end and then cancels to go do something else? For every hardcore gamer there is on a server - there are ten casual ones.
If they reall want to keep casual gamers then they should get rid of raiding which is only good for people who have more time on their hands then anyone else. As most casual gamers can't spend 70 hours a week raiding for good gear.
Also if it IS like how all the 'rumors' describe it? I get the feeling they're fixing to add a item mall with items you can buy to get rid of your fatigue. It kind of reminds me of other F2P games that have item malls with bonus exp items.
In reality, it's normal XP if you pay to play and less if you don't. :P
It's just a matter of how it is "worded" as far as marketing it goes. It doesn't mean that is the reality of it.
Just depends on your perspective.
Edit: Also, it's kind of funny. If you think about it it's like saying, "We are going to penalize you for *really* liking our game and playing it a lot!" :P
Still, In the long run? There's only one motto any gamer can keep in mind when they're thinking of playing a game.
Caveat Emptor.
In an effort to consolidate multiple threads on the same topic into one thread, this one is being locked.
Please continue this discussion here :
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/288726/Surplus-Experience-Official-Explanation-Updated.html