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Reviews from Japan (Japanese) / translated
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http://onlinegame.dz-life.net/ff14/review.html
I'll translate the list a little bit:
Fun Factor = 1 star / 5
Originality = 1.x star / 5
Difficulty Level = 1 star / 5
Graphics = 3 star / 5
Music = 2 star / 5
Immersion and Story = 2 star / 5
Character Design = 2 star / 5
Communication = 1 star / 5 (referring to chat mechanics I'm assuming)
Event Inclusion = 1 star / 5
Payment Method = 1.5 star / 5
These averages are based off of 421 users and upon reading some of the reviews further down below, a lot of people are saying the only good thing about the game are the graphics.
I'll quote some of it:
"oβ??????????????????????????????????????????" - I cant believe a game 2 weeks from release would have such little to offer. It's a game only about graphics. (2.8 pt / 5)
"????????????????????…?" - The only praise I can truly give this game is about the graphics (1.8 pt / 5)
"?????????????????????????????????????????" - Personally, the UI is undesirable. You can't help but call the producer stupid. The map is too copied. (3.3 pt / 5) <-- this guy goes on to say he is hoping updates will improve the game. I think his 3.3 score is the most generous of them all.
I huge majority of all these posts harshly point out the same things that the Western audience is saying. Even the most generous reviews from this site basically say it's bad, but has potential if SE updates the game. Don't believe me? Well scroll down and see the little numbers next to all the posts, those are the review scores. Now, I will say in FFXIV's defense, maybe this site doesn't represent the Japanese FFXIV audience as a whole, but, honestly you would think it would have at least SOME good reviews. This entire site with 421 votes on it are almost unanimously bad...
Edit: Japanese txt doesn't copy to the forums 
so it shows up as ?????
Comments
So the review came from a collaboration of reviews from forum posters on a Japanese online game forum.
I just wanted to clarify the source, I mean it doesnt surprise me at all. If you did the same thing here on mmorp.com it would be much worse.
anyhow, is that how the review was compiled? From a bunch of japanese forum posters?
Personally, I think the ratings were generous.
http://review.rakuten.co.jp/rd/2_213310_13719301_0/
Here are user reviews from Rakuten - A huge online store in Japan. The user score is 3.23 / 5 based on 40 people.
All of these that I read were pretty short and basically didn't mention much about specific points of the game.
I get the feeling that the Japanese audience is having the same issues as we are... of course, there are some people who like it, but I'm not seeing this as the next biggest thing. Even in Japan.
EDIT: If the link isnt working, just copy the stuff before http:// into the bar...
sry
Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
Not a forum like here at the mmorpg.com site. But, yes a collaboration of reviews. After looking at many different sites, this first link had the most reviews (421 of them). As I read the reviews further below, many of them contained specifics of the game like you might find in your average user reviews like on mmorpg.com.
Sites like Amazon Japan and Rakuten had a smaller number of reviews, plus almost nobody took the time to write up any detailed information about the game.
I'm sure on the 30th when the regular version comes out, more reviews and information will be posted, but I think this gives your a better sense of how the game is doing in Japan. ( better, not perfect )
Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
This shouldn't come as a surprise for anyone. There is a laundry list of things about this game that irritate people. When the "shiny"wears off and people lose the need to justify their purchase then the real opinions will shake loose and I think we will see the averages level out around 3-4/10. Till then people will play their free month and feel less than satisfied with their purchase and ultimately quit playing.
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I get the feeling that you're trying to say the review is somehow inaccurate or biased because it was done by the masses. I don't get why people are walking around saying, "Hey, just because 9/10 players says this game is bad doesn't make it bad.". It's almost as if people are saying that the game isn't bad because 1 out of every 500 gamers enjoys it.
The best way to review a game is mass opinion. Sure you may get some unintelligent opinions, but seeing as how this review was compiled using 500 opinions, I'd say it's an accurate one. The game has fun graphics, the rest is broken or appeals to 1/500 people.
Unfortunately the masses are in general unintelligent; Not to mention I would question the validity of those scores since even on this site those that have actually reviewed this game have averaged a 7 out of 10, which is a pretty decent score.
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Yeah, here's amazon japan:
http://www.amazon.co.jp/product-reviews/B003UHVPDG/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1
Another example of extreme condescension. The masses in general are unintelligent. So I assume you consider yourself to be intelligent?
Right, because everyone who reviews the game is a Monkey in a top-hat. Really? C'mon. Does every thread on FFXIV have to be about someone trying to defend the game with an outrageous, demeaning, or ridiculous claim? It's as bad as saying anyone who plays WoW is second-class citizens... The opposite can be said about people bashing the game for no other reason than to just generate hate.
Really getting tired of this behavior. "You just don't understand the game, aren't willing to put forth the effort to understand it, or are just lazy". I think spending the money alone is more than enough effort. If you find reason to hate the game within the first 10 minutes of it, then that's your problem, but there's no excuse to call people unintelligent because *you* disagree with a review.
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I was just asking because I honestly dont know where the review came from. The title says "reviews from japan" and reading through the OP's post it looked like these were cumulitive reviews from random gamers on an online forum.
I just wanted to know if this was like a metacritic score or if it was like polling an Asian MMORPG.com website.
Of course by unintelligent you mean that they don't agree with someone's point of view 100% and not that they actually lack the intelligence to tell whether or not a game is fun and user-friendly. I'd also very much enjoy seeing those 7/10 "reviews" you mentioned, because I've seen none.
90% of threads in the FFXIV forum of this site and every other gaming site are negative and bashful reviews. If I had to guess, I would sooner approximate them to be 2-3/10 and the most positive of reviews being the generous 7/10 you suggested.
People often consider Asians to be somehow extremely different in taste than ourselves and while that might hold true for some things, culture can't hide some similarities that people share.
Unresponsiveness, duplication, repetition and unrewarding gameplay come to mind.
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Yah, this one has 92 votes. Averaging 2 stars / 5 with 62 being 1 star.
I mean. I checked many many sites in Japanese to see if maybe the low score in Japan was a fluke, but I'm really starting to believe FFXIV has been very harshly received by the Japanese.
I think it might change somewhat when the PS3 version is released... maybe.
Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
Wow, I may not understand a damn word, but all those 1 star reviews tell me all I need to know. Japan isn't liking this game either.
It's starting to look like we have another fail MMO on our hands
I'll give it a month or one big patch before I start calling it a failure though, you know, give SE a chance to deliver a "miracle patch" heh.
One big mistake on their part is not having an official forum.
Official forum is the fastest way to gather feedback on your customers, not having one is admiting that you don't care much about player feedback because you are not planing on catering to your player base and change the game to suit their gaming needs.
That's arogant and it's going to cost them.
I care about your gaming 'problems' and teenage anxieties, just not today.
And I guess people are not capable of deciding what they themselfs find fun and not fun? I also have to wander what you use to determin the masses are unintelligent?
Sometimes the people who are supporting this game are worse than the people attacking it...
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Totally agree with you. I wrote this post to actually try to clarify for myself who this niche audience was. People thought it might be Asians or Japanese people in general, but I'm honestly starting to believe it's more (or less) than that.
Maybe PS3 gamers, or die-hard FF fans, but looking at all the Japanese site's I've seen it definitely isn't separated culturally.
Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
I used the auto-translate in Chrome, and with that I was able to pick apart pieces of the translated garble. Things like...
"this work in late September 2010 is now in alpha"
"Do not buy this game"
"The user interface is bad and frustrating to respond to anything. "
"Sure the graphics are beautiful."
"Currently, the corrections needed to play the game without stress "
"Why Square Enix Fallen so far"
"Tester's opinion largely ignored"
Any fanboys want to defend Japanese hatred at this game now? I can continue translating some if you'd like.
... and sometimes it's the other way around
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The ease with which predictions are made on these forums:
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More people vote for their favorite American Idol than in any Presidential election. Democracy is built on the idea that a few intelligent people can control the masses, but I digress. I was exaggerating for the most part.
My point was really to demonstrate that since no two websites scores for this game are the same then the vast differences only seem to indicate that people have yet to make up their mind about this game. This is illustrated when you contrast the Japanese website score of 1 out of 5 to this websites score of 7 out of 10 and Gamespots(forum users) score of 6 out of 10. Now those are just a few, but I would like to stress that we will not begin to see any real objective reviews for another two months. Normally it takes at least thirty hours of gameplay to really be able to get a good idea about the overall game.
So the moral of the story is; people are fickle and will do what ever is popular. Whether that be FFXIV bashing or WoW loving/hating. The only real way of measuring anything is time, because only time has the ability to judge without prejudice.
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Really, that's just deflecting the truth with fancy words. We could subject any game with that very same sentence and in truth it would be a "valid" argument.
Allow me to explain:
Basically, World of Warcraft is a niche game. We knew this from the start. Just because there's a bunch of knuckleheads bashing their heads into it and saying, "OW! I'M NOT PART OF THE INTENDED NICHE! THIS GAME SUCKS!" doesn't mean that the game isn't excellent at the niche it was intended for.
Basically, Darkfall is a niche game. We knew this from the start. Just because there's a bunch of knuckleheads bashing their heads into it and saying, "OW! I'M NOT PART OF THE INTENDED NICHE! THIS GAME SUCKS!" doesn't mean that the game isn't excellent at the niche it was intended for.
Basically, Aion is a niche game. We knew this from the start. Just because there's a bunch of knuckleheads bashing their heads into it and saying, "OW! I'M NOT PART OF THE INTENDED NICHE! THIS GAME SUCKS!" doesn't mean that the game isn't excellent at the niche it was intended for.
Have I proved my point yet?
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Man I wish people would stop using the term "the masses" .... give me a break, we are all part of the masses, we are consumers... no one here is the next albert einstein or socretes. This overused term really makes a person using it look like a forum tool or a trying -to-hard-wannabe intellectual.
As far as the reviews go... i'm not surprised in the least. Now the defense that people have been using "it wasn't developed for your lazy western tastes" doesn't hold as much substance.
EDIT: Put in the AH SquareEnix, then maybe i'll consider playing it again. I don't have the kind of time to waste 4+ hours looking for an item but never finding it... this is not 'hardcore' no matter what the fanboys tell you.
Because an intelligent person would look at the box and know the game wasn't intended for them... /sarcasm
Sadly a lot of people who like this game feel that anyone who doesn't share their feelings are nothing more then unintelligent dregs whose opinions should be ignored.
What I find funny is the fact that the Japanese players are being even more harsh on this game than the Western players.
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