Scary part is, IGN kinda has a rep of being a tad too kind to Final Fantasy games. So if they gave this a 5.5, they probably really, wanted to give it a 4. I'm not trying to troll with this - I played in the beta - but it's annoying as hell when a company clearly puts out a game that ignores EVERYTHING that their players want and just assume the name will sell itself. FF11 is a MUCH better game then FF14.
Says something when WAR and AoC got great reviews out of the gate when they were lacking and FF XIV is getting hulk smashed. And no I don't mean the reviewers took it easy on the former, but that FF XIV really does in my opinion deserve the scores its getting. WAR and AoC were definitely works in progress at launch but had potential to turn it around... FF XIV does not from where I'm standing. Its core gameplay is fundamentally flawed for even moderate success.
Well isnt this the first major site to rip FF 14 a new one?
The flood gates are open now. If others were wary of giving 14 bad marks, due to it being a Square game, I think their reservations will be a bit more lax.
It is a shame for FF fans. FF 13 was the first one I ever played, and thought it was garbage. 2 negatives in a row isnt going to make their fans happy.
It wouldnt shock me to find folks being demoted/fired over this.
Asking Devs to make AAA sandbox titles is like trying to get fine dining on a McDonalds dollar menu budget.
Deserves even less of a score in my opinion. It's like they took all the basic things that people expect in an MMO and ruined them on purpose. Wish I could return my copy and get a full refund for this POS.
User Interface
Controls
Auction Houses
Vendors
Chat
Account Creation
Payment System
Mob placement
Zone design
All these basic things are a disaster in this game. Oh but wait, it has pretty graphics.
Well isnt this the first major site to rip FF 14 a new one?
The flood gates are open now. If others were wary of giving 14 bad marks, due to it being a Square game, I think their reservations will be a bit more lax.
It is a shame for FF fans. FF 13 was the first one I ever played, and thought it was garbage. 2 negatives in a row isnt going to make their fans happy.
It wouldnt shock me to find folks being demoted/fired over this.
Deserves even less of a score in my opinion. It's like they took all the basic things that people expect in an MMO and ruined them on purpose. Wish I could return my copy and get a full refund for this POS.
User Interface
Controls
Auction Houses
Vendors
Chat
Account Creation
Payment System
Mob placement
Zone design
All these basic things are a disaster in this game. Oh but wait, it has pretty graphics.
Chat is subjective on whether you want to hear chuck norris jokes all day long or not. Chat is one of the few nice things about the game to me. No barrens BS going on.
i bought CE, stoped playing. to many small things are annoying me. i was dissapointed. i wont subscribe after the first month, but i am not mad i bought the game. i still feel it has potential. it just needs more time to develope. ill check back on it in like a month or 2.
p.s i still see a chance for the game to recover, just itll take a while probably.
it''s funny how the fanboys try to cover it up with "it's a niche game" or "you're a WoW fanboy."
I'm lukewarm. A 5.5/10 review is an interesting thing really.
Is the review slightly over half full, or slightly under half empty?
It's both, and if you insist it's only one way or the other, you're the biased one, not I.
Closing Comments
With its newest MMO in its flagship franchise, Square Enix delivers a gigantic, beautiful fantasy world to explore. The flexible class system means you'll be able to mix and match abilities from many different roles so you can change your specialization at will. Much of the promise of the combat system and depth of the crafting mechanics are drowned, unfortunately, under a sea of interface and performance issues that hinder the experience at nearly every step. While there's a lot to consider when building your ideal class, there's far too little interesting structured content to chew on, resulting in an experience that quickly grows tedious and tiresome. All MMOs are designed to keep players logging in for long into the future, but at launch Final Fantasy XIV's questing mechanics feel more like a subway commute than a fun gameplay experience. Patches over the course of the next few months may address many of the technical issues, but for now this is not a world worth visiting.
I can live with that. Sounds to me like a solid foundation that's being built on. I never asked for anything more in a release-day MMORPG, as I tend to regard these things as works in progress. It's the whole reason I pay for a subscription.
Regardless of the reviewer's saying it's not a world worth visiting, I'll continue to visit it. After all, in all things in life, the worth of a thing is a subjective judgement. One man's treasure is another man's junk. Best wishes to those who have yet to find their treasure.
it''s funny how the fanboys try to cover it up with "it's a niche game" or "you're a WoW fanboy."
I'm lukewarm. A 5.5/10 review is an interesting thing really.
Is the review slightly over half full, or slightly under half empty?
It's both, and if you insist it's only one way or the other, you're the biased one, not I.
Closing Comments
With its newest MMO in its flagship franchise, Square Enix delivers a gigantic, beautiful fantasy world to explore. The flexible class system means you'll be able to mix and match abilities from many different roles so you can change your specialization at will. Much of the promise of the combat system and depth of the crafting mechanics are drowned, unfortunately, under a sea of interface and performance issues that hinder the experience at nearly every step. While there's a lot to consider when building your ideal class, there's far too little interesting structured content to chew on, resulting in an experience that quickly grows tedious and tiresome. All MMOs are designed to keep players logging in for long into the future, but at launch Final Fantasy XIV's questing mechanics feel more like a subway commute than a fun gameplay experience. Patches over the course of the next few months may address many of the technical issues, but for now this is not a world worth visiting.
I can live with that. Sounds to me like a solid foundation that's being built on. I never asked for anything more in a release-day MORPG.
I'll continue to visit it. In all things in life, the worth is a subjective, after all. One man's treasure is another man's junk. Best wishes to those who have yet to find their treasure.
A 5 is practically a zero, seriously pull your head out for once. Everyone knows that only the worst games get less than 5 out of 10.
This is strike three, gamespot, gametrailers, and now IGN.
True enough, I agree with the 4.0s and the 5.0s this game has been scoring. It's like a genius amature. You see wonderful potential and some things it does amazingly (such as graphics) but there are a lot of mistakes being made and it's not very solid yet. In terms of game play FFXIV is easily the least fun big name mmorpg I've ever played as it is now. It just oddly enough has potential to be one of the best if they fix and do it right.
I'd be happy if they froze everything and went back to work on the game and opened up the server when it's better. Of course that would never ever happen, I just hate taking a break from a brand new mmorpg and starting up later when you don't have that initial release rush of new players to play and make connections with.
it''s funny how the fanboys try to cover it up with "it's a niche game" or "you're a WoW fanboy."
I'm lukewarm. A 5.5/10 review is an interesting thing really.
Is the review slightly over half full, or slightly under half empty?
It's both, and if you insist it's only one way or the other, you're the biased one, not I.
Closing Comments
With its newest MMO in its flagship franchise, Square Enix delivers a gigantic, beautiful fantasy world to explore. The flexible class system means you'll be able to mix and match abilities from many different roles so you can change your specialization at will. Much of the promise of the combat system and depth of the crafting mechanics are drowned, unfortunately, under a sea of interface and performance issues that hinder the experience at nearly every step. While there's a lot to consider when building your ideal class, there's far too little interesting structured content to chew on, resulting in an experience that quickly grows tedious and tiresome. All MMOs are designed to keep players logging in for long into the future, but at launch Final Fantasy XIV's questing mechanics feel more like a subway commute than a fun gameplay experience. Patches over the course of the next few months may address many of the technical issues, but for now this is not a world worth visiting.
I can live with that. Sounds to me like a solid foundation that's being built on. I never asked for anything more in a release-day MMORPG, as I tend to regard these things as works in progress. It's the whole reason I pay for a subscription.
Regardless of the reviewer's saying it's not a world worth visiting, I'll continue to visit it. After all, in all things in life, the worth of a thing is a subjective judgement. One man's treasure is another man's junk. Best wishes to those who have yet to find their treasure.
And sometimes it's just junk, and the other man is crazy.
Originally posted by stv182 Deserves even less of a score in my opinion. It's like they took all the basic things that people expect in an MMO and ruined them on purpose. Wish I could return my copy and get a full refund for this POS.
User Interface
Controls
Auction Houses Vendors Chat Account Creation Payment System Mob placement Zone design
All these basic things are a disaster in this game. Oh but wait, it has pretty graphics.
Chat is subjective on whether you want to hear chuck norris jokes all day long or not. Chat is one of the few nice things about the game to me. No barrens BS going on.
I believe his point is actually having a normal and fully functioning chat system with chat tabs that don't rest to a default tab every effing time you click on something else on the UI. That would be a big start along with /r reply ability and many other basic chat command options that every other MMO has in it.
Oh wait never mind PS3 users don't need a fully feature chat system.
Games I've played/tried out:WAR, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, AoC, EQ1, EQ2, WoW, Vangaurd, FFXI, D&DO, Lineage 2, Saga Of Ryzom, EvE Online, DAoC, Guild Wars,Star Wars Galaxies, Hell Gate London, Auto Assault, Grando Espada ( AKA SoTNW ), Archlord, CoV/H, Star Trek Online, APB, Champions Online, FFXIV, Rift Online, GW2.
After all, in all things in life, the worth of a thing is a subjective judgement. One man's treasure is another man's junk. Best wishes to those who have yet to find their treasure.
And sometimes it's just junk, and the other man is crazy.
Sorry, you really don't get to say that, that's just not how the saying works.
Originally posted by gameguy369
Yeah, if IGN drops a score below a 7 on you - that means the game is essentiaully unplayable.
This is incorrect. By IGN's official policy on their scores, a 5.5 (by being in the range of 5.1 to 5.9) reflects mediocrity. It's only games that rank below 2.9 that, "have gameplay and technical problems that are so severe, they border on being completely 'broken.'"
Yeah, if IGN drops a score below a 7 on you - that means the game is essentiaully unplayable.
Yea, IGN can be abit carebear with their reviews but I found it to an accurate score. Anywhere from a 2-6 is justifiable, but this is easily the worst MMO to launch in the entire decade forget the year, its already sweeping worst MMO of the year awards we need to start talking big picture. it could very well be the worst MMO in a generation, unbelievable for a AAA studio like SE.
I quit playing FFXIV almost a week ago.. I don't regret coughing up 75 bucks for the CE that came with a key logger and a book full of blank pages and this huge box of nothingness with a youtube mix video. I just always have to try a new AAA MMO, but SE really F'ed up on this MMO. Even war and aoc when they first came out blow this MMO out of the water. Like I said before, remember during the Atari years when everyone wanted to make money from video games and they started making crap video games... like E.T. Well, FFXIV feels like E.T.
If you can't relate, then I'm sorry.. You must be to young to understand.
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it''s funny how the fanboys try to cover it up with "it's a niche game" or "you're a WoW fanboy."
"Go back to WoW, carebear!" ...Wait, this isn't the Darkfall forums is it? (I actually like kind of like Darkfall though).
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Scary part is, IGN kinda has a rep of being a tad too kind to Final Fantasy games. So if they gave this a 5.5, they probably really, wanted to give it a 4. I'm not trying to troll with this - I played in the beta - but it's annoying as hell when a company clearly puts out a game that ignores EVERYTHING that their players want and just assume the name will sell itself. FF11 is a MUCH better game then FF14.
Says something when WAR and AoC got great reviews out of the gate when they were lacking and FF XIV is getting hulk smashed. And no I don't mean the reviewers took it easy on the former, but that FF XIV really does in my opinion deserve the scores its getting. WAR and AoC were definitely works in progress at launch but had potential to turn it around... FF XIV does not from where I'm standing. Its core gameplay is fundamentally flawed for even moderate success.
Well isnt this the first major site to rip FF 14 a new one?
The flood gates are open now. If others were wary of giving 14 bad marks, due to it being a Square game, I think their reservations will be a bit more lax.
It is a shame for FF fans. FF 13 was the first one I ever played, and thought it was garbage. 2 negatives in a row isnt going to make their fans happy.
It wouldnt shock me to find folks being demoted/fired over this.
Asking Devs to make AAA sandbox titles is like trying to get fine dining on a McDonalds dollar menu budget.
Deserves even less of a score in my opinion. It's like they took all the basic things that people expect in an MMO and ruined them on purpose. Wish I could return my copy and get a full refund for this POS.
User Interface
Controls
Auction Houses
Vendors
Chat
Account Creation
Payment System
Mob placement
Zone design
All these basic things are a disaster in this game. Oh but wait, it has pretty graphics.
Keep telling people, do your research...but they never do and then they get something they don't like.
Help me Bioware, you're my only hope.
Is ToR going to be good? Dude it's Bioware making a freaking star wars game, all signs point to awesome. -G4tv MMo report.
gamespot gave it a 4.4 or something.
Chat is subjective on whether you want to hear chuck norris jokes all day long or not. Chat is one of the few nice things about the game to me. No barrens BS going on.
i bought CE, stoped playing. to many small things are annoying me. i was dissapointed. i wont subscribe after the first month, but i am not mad i bought the game. i still feel it has potential. it just needs more time to develope. ill check back on it in like a month or 2.
p.s i still see a chance for the game to recover, just itll take a while probably.
I'm lukewarm. A 5.5/10 review is an interesting thing really.
Is the review slightly over half full, or slightly under half empty?
It's both, and if you insist it's only one way or the other, you're the biased one, not I.
Closing Comments
With its newest MMO in its flagship franchise, Square Enix delivers a gigantic, beautiful fantasy world to explore. The flexible class system means you'll be able to mix and match abilities from many different roles so you can change your specialization at will. Much of the promise of the combat system and depth of the crafting mechanics are drowned, unfortunately, under a sea of interface and performance issues that hinder the experience at nearly every step. While there's a lot to consider when building your ideal class, there's far too little interesting structured content to chew on, resulting in an experience that quickly grows tedious and tiresome. All MMOs are designed to keep players logging in for long into the future, but at launch Final Fantasy XIV's questing mechanics feel more like a subway commute than a fun gameplay experience. Patches over the course of the next few months may address many of the technical issues, but for now this is not a world worth visiting.
I can live with that. Sounds to me like a solid foundation that's being built on. I never asked for anything more in a release-day MMORPG, as I tend to regard these things as works in progress. It's the whole reason I pay for a subscription.
Regardless of the reviewer's saying it's not a world worth visiting, I'll continue to visit it. After all, in all things in life, the worth of a thing is a subjective judgement. One man's treasure is another man's junk. Best wishes to those who have yet to find their treasure.
ign review is too generous it shoudl have been a 4 at least.
Yeowch... but I thought this game wasn't released yet? Wow, it really must've been in a concrete bomb shelter under my radar. I hadn't noticed, lol.
A 5 is practically a zero, seriously pull your head out for once. Everyone knows that only the worst games get less than 5 out of 10.
This is strike three, gamespot, gametrailers, and now IGN.
True enough, I agree with the 4.0s and the 5.0s this game has been scoring. It's like a genius amature. You see wonderful potential and some things it does amazingly (such as graphics) but there are a lot of mistakes being made and it's not very solid yet. In terms of game play FFXIV is easily the least fun big name mmorpg I've ever played as it is now. It just oddly enough has potential to be one of the best if they fix and do it right.
I'd be happy if they froze everything and went back to work on the game and opened up the server when it's better. Of course that would never ever happen, I just hate taking a break from a brand new mmorpg and starting up later when you don't have that initial release rush of new players to play and make connections with.
And sometimes it's just junk, and the other man is crazy.
Yeah, if IGN drops a score below a 7 on you - that means the game is essentiaully unplayable.
I believe his point is actually having a normal and fully functioning chat system with chat tabs that don't rest to a default tab every effing time you click on something else on the UI. That would be a big start along with /r reply ability and many other basic chat command options that every other MMO has in it.
Oh wait never mind PS3 users don't need a fully feature chat system.
Games I've played/tried out:WAR, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, AoC, EQ1, EQ2, WoW, Vangaurd, FFXI, D&DO, Lineage 2, Saga Of Ryzom, EvE Online, DAoC, Guild Wars,Star Wars Galaxies, Hell Gate London, Auto Assault, Grando Espada ( AKA SoTNW ), Archlord, CoV/H, Star Trek Online, APB, Champions Online, FFXIV, Rift Online, GW2.
Game(s) I Am Currently Playing:
GW2 (+LoL and BF3)
Sorry, you really don't get to say that, that's just not how the saying works.
This is incorrect. By IGN's official policy on their scores, a 5.5 (by being in the range of 5.1 to 5.9) reflects mediocrity. It's only games that rank below 2.9 that, "have gameplay and technical problems that are so severe, they border on being completely 'broken.'"
Yea, IGN can be abit carebear with their reviews but I found it to an accurate score. Anywhere from a 2-6 is justifiable, but this is easily the worst MMO to launch in the entire decade forget the year, its already sweeping worst MMO of the year awards we need to start talking big picture. it could very well be the worst MMO in a generation, unbelievable for a AAA studio like SE.
Good thing this game looks pretty otherwise it would be a 0-1.5 score.
The game is fine for people who have always liked FF. I don't think it's a big thing for those that did not already like the series.
I disagree....Imma huge FF fan and this game plain sucks. Ive already gone into to detail on other forum posts on my feelings.
I quit playing FFXIV almost a week ago.. I don't regret coughing up 75 bucks for the CE that came with a key logger and a book full of blank pages and this huge box of nothingness with a youtube mix video. I just always have to try a new AAA MMO, but SE really F'ed up on this MMO. Even war and aoc when they first came out blow this MMO out of the water. Like I said before, remember during the Atari years when everyone wanted to make money from video games and they started making crap video games... like E.T. Well, FFXIV feels like E.T.
If you can't relate, then I'm sorry.. You must be to young to understand.
??!? FFXIV CE came with a keylogger??