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FFXIV lvl 20 Lancer vs tera lvl 21 lancer.

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  • MeliezaMelieza Member Posts: 269

    Well then you havent been looking very hard.  Ive seen giant lizards, frogs, fish, imps and wolves and Im only level 22.

  • BenthonBenthon Member Posts: 2,069

    I've only found 3 different mobs in my complete playing experience in Ul'dah, grinding.

    Dodo's.

    Marmots.

    Cobblyns.

     

    That's it. Levequests give you Yarzon's, moles, and flies, but those are lame 36hr quests and don't really count.

    He who keeps his cool best wins.

  • ParadoxyParadoxy Member Posts: 786

    Originally posted by Melieza

    Well then you havent been looking very hard.  Ive seen giant lizards, frogs, fish, imps and wolves and Im only level 22.

    Wolves are not giant more like a size of a cat neither are those lizards in any size or form. Honestly, wolves look more like Felix the cat. And i really wouldn't call fish, lizards and those tiny imps and frogs intimidating...lol.

    But thanks for proving my point at how boring and generic the mobs are in FFXIV.

    Who could have thought that WOW could bring super power like USA to its knees?


    Originally posted by Arcken

    To put it in a nutshell, our society is about to hit the fan, grades are dropping, obesity is going up,childhood the USA is going to lose its super power status before too long, but hey, as long as we have a cheap method to babysit our kids, all will be well no?
    Im picking on WoW btw because its the beast that made all of this possible

  • choujiofkonochoujiofkono Member Posts: 852

    Originally posted by Paradoxy

    Originally posted by Melieza

    As someone stated, comparing a somewhat turn based game and an action game is just dumb.

    And why was this posted in the FFXIV forums?  Just trying to prod at the people who enjoy FFXIV about an action game that isnt coming out for over a year in the US?

    Hey, lets compare Blade and Soul and FFXIV too while we at it.

    This was posted here by a current FFXIV player to compare the combat of two games. No one is trying to prod your sensitive behind trust me. Also only because FFXIV's combat is turned based doesn't mean it has to be a snore fest. Another thing this video trying to show was difference between monsters you fight at lvl 20 in both games.

    DODOS yeah bloody scary and intimidating.

        It's no secret the combat in FF14 is slow and as exciting as re-blacktopping my driveway.  It's near the top of a very long list of things critics dislike.

        1 on 1 comparisons just make people realize what other options are out there/going to be out there soon. 

       People can't really cry foul when comparing to games that aren't complete yet can they?  Seriously doesn't FF14 fit right into that category?

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  • XzenXzen Member UncommonPosts: 2,607

    Think you need to compare Tera Lancer with FFXIV's Gladiator. You also need to show the FFXIV character fighting an Elite mob as well..... We'll let you know when they add them .. >.>

  • BenthonBenthon Member Posts: 2,069

    Originally posted by Xzen

    Think you need to compare Tera Lancer with FFXIV's Gladiator. You also need to show the FFXIV character fighting an Elite mob as well..... We'll let you know when they add them .. >.>

     FFXIV Level 20 Lancer fighting Dodo's is right in his level range. They don't have "elite" mobs in the game yet, so really it's a fair comparison.

    He who keeps his cool best wins.

  • XzenXzen Member UncommonPosts: 2,607

    Originally posted by Benthon

    Originally posted by Xzen

    Think you need to compare Tera Lancer with FFXIV[object Window]s Gladiator. You also need to show the FFXIV character fighting an Elite mob as well..... We[object Window]ll let you know when they add them .. >.>

     FFXIV Level 20 Lancer fighting Dodos is right in his level range. They dont have elite  mobs in the game yet, so really its a fair comparison.

    Im pretty sure you might be able to find a toad to fight that might be in the size range of that mob. But I dont think fighting an Elite/NM can be considered the same thing as fighting a trash mob.

  • choujiofkonochoujiofkono Member Posts: 852

    Originally posted by Benthon

    Originally posted by Xzen

    Think you need to compare Tera Lancer with FFXIV's Gladiator. You also need to show the FFXIV character fighting an Elite mob as well..... We'll let you know when they add them .. >.>

     FFXIV Level 20 Lancer fighting Dodo's is right in his level range. They don't have "elite" mobs in the game yet, so really it's a fair comparison.

         That is another interesting point in this discussion.

        Released game = "  They don't have "elite" mobs in the game yet,  "

        Game which is "a year from release" =  Giant elite mobs

        Seems more than fair comparison actually.  A game which is still in "real" development is already developmentally ahead of a game that has been sitting on shelves for 2 months. 

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  • XzenXzen Member UncommonPosts: 2,607

    Originally posted by choujiofkono

    Originally posted by Benthon


    Originally posted by Xzen

    Think you need to compare Tera Lancer with FFXIVs Gladiator. You also need to show the FFXIV character fighting an Elite mob as well..... Wll let you know when they add them .. >.>

     FFXIV Level 20 Lancer fighting Dodos is right in his level range. They dont have elite mobs in the game yet, so really iy is a fair comparison.

         That is another interesting point in this discussion.

        Released game =  They dont have elite mobs in the game yet,

        Game which is a year from release=  Giant elite mobs

        Seems more than fair comparison actually. No not really.  A game which is still in [object Window]real[object Window] development is already developmentally ahead of a game that has been sitting on shelves for 2 months. QFT!

    Come on guys. Really you[object Window]re so focused on bashing the game you lost your sense of humor. The last part of this post was the point I was trying to make.

  • ParadoxyParadoxy Member Posts: 786

    Originally posted by Xzen

    Originally posted by choujiofkono


    Originally posted by Benthon


    Originally posted by Xzen

    Think you need to compare Tera Lancer with FFXIV[object Window]s Gladiator. You also need to show the FFXIV character fighting an Elite mob as well..... We[object Window]ll let you know when they add them .. >.>

     FFXIV Level 20 Lancer fighting Dodo[object Window]s is right in his level range. They don[object Window]t have [object Window]elite[object Window] mobs in the game yet, so really it[object Window]s a fair comparison.

         That is another interesting point in this discussion.

        Released game = [object Window]  They don[object Window]t have [object Window]elite[object Window] mobs in the game yet,  [object Window]

        Game which is [object Window]a year from release[object Window] =  Giant elite mobs

        Seems more than fair comparison actually. No not really.  A game which is still in [object Window]real[object Window] development is already developmentally ahead of a game that has been sitting on shelves for 2 months. QFT!

    [object Window]

    The point of video was to show slow combat of FFXIV and the mobs you fight at lower levels. if you got such badass and cool looking Elite/NM monsters in FFXIV for lvl 20 please go ahead; make a video and post it here. And no i am not talking about some oversized crabs, lizards or scorpions or toads (lol toads wtf?)

    Who could have thought that WOW could bring super power like USA to its knees?


    Originally posted by Arcken

    To put it in a nutshell, our society is about to hit the fan, grades are dropping, obesity is going up,childhood the USA is going to lose its super power status before too long, but hey, as long as we have a cheap method to babysit our kids, all will be well no?
    Im picking on WoW btw because its the beast that made all of this possible

  • XzenXzen Member UncommonPosts: 2,607

    Originally posted by Paradoxy

    Originally posted by Xzen


    Originally posted by choujiofkono


    Originally posted by Benthon


    Originally posted by Xzen

    Think you need to compare Tera Lancer with FFXIV[object Window]s Gladiator. You also need to show the FFXIV character fighting an Elite mob as well..... We[object Window]ll let you know when they add them .. >.>

     FFXIV Level 20 Lancer fighting Dodo[object Window]s is right in his level range. They don[object Window]t have [object Window]elite[object Window] mobs in the game yet, so really it[object Window]s a fair comparison.

         That is another interesting point in this discussion.

        Released game = [object Window]  They don[object Window]t have [object Window]elite[object Window] mobs in the game yet,  [object Window]

        Game which is [object Window]a year from release[object Window] =  Giant elite mobs

        Seems more than fair comparison actually. No not really.  A game which is still in [object Window]real[object Window] development is already developmentally ahead of a game that has been sitting on shelves for 2 months. QFT!

    [object Window]

    The point of video was to show slow combat of FFXIV and the mobs you fight at lower levels. if you got such badass and cool looking Elite/NM monsters in FFXIV for lvl 20 please go ahead; make a video and post it here. And no i am not talking about some oversized crabs, lizards or scorpions or toads (lol toads wtf?)

    if you got such badass and cool looking Elite/NM monsters in FFXIV for lvl 20 please go ahead; make a video and post it here. Youre arguing the point I was trying to make.... >.>

  • RaxeonRaxeon Member UncommonPosts: 2,288

    Originally posted by Nikkita

    And the monsters they fight..

    Lvl 20 FFXIV Lancer

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSsMa4WjnC4

    LVL 21 Tera Lancer

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00L6wznlVJA&fmt=22

     

    I had no idea how boring combat and monsters is in FFXIV untill i saw Tera. Wow!

     you do relize thats a boss theya re fighting. ffxiv is gettng them types of monsters in the next big patch

  • stayontargetstayontarget Member RarePosts: 6,519

    Originally posted by SnarkRitter

    It is a great shame that TERA will have the old holy trinity.I hope future MMORPGs will does away with the old holy trinity and follow GW2's example.

    Not everyone thinks that's a good idea bro.

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  • Hrayr2148Hrayr2148 Member Posts: 649

    You could make the same comparison videos of FFXI and WoW back in the day.

     

    Some people love playing games like Devil May Cry and other's like games like Civilization.  Some people prefer puzzle games, and others twitch based first person shooters.

     

    It's a comparison of apples and oranges.  FFXIV is designed to be a combination of turn based (active ATB type gauge) and real time action.  IT's methodical, JUST LIKE ALL PREVIOUS FFs.    

     

    If more people in the MMO community prefer WoW/Tera based gameplay (and it appears they do) then by all means, PLAY THOSE GAMES.

     

    What's wrong with having something different?  You guys are nitpicking the combat in FFXIV when we know damn well that that's how FFs are designed.   There is a segment of the population who likes gameplay that isn't a copy paste of 99% of mmos on the market.

     

    I have to also say that once I started leveling Thaumaturge/Conjurer along with Puglilist to compliment my Marauder, it just completely picks up.    I'll make a video in the next couple of days with me and my LS mates doing some rank 30 leves in the Nanawa Mines.  You can decide for yourself.

     

    Edit: Is there a way to have FRAPS record sounds in the game only and not my Vent chatter with LS mates?  I run the game in Windowed mode.  Would changing it to fullscreen solve that issue?

  • BenthonBenthon Member Posts: 2,069

    Originally posted by Raxeon

    Originally posted by Nikkita

    And the monsters they fight..

    Lvl 20 FFXIV Lancer

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSsMa4WjnC4

    LVL 21 Tera Lancer

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00L6wznlVJA&fmt=22

     

    I had no idea how boring combat and monsters is in FFXIV untill i saw Tera. Wow!

     you do relize thats a boss theya re fighting. ffxiv is gettng them types of monsters in the next big patch

     That's an elite mob. You know, like WoW's elite mob. The monster is of no signficant importance to the game.

    He who keeps his cool best wins.

  • Master10KMaster10K Member Posts: 3,065

    Originally posted by SnarkRitter

    It is a great shame that TERA will have the old holy trinity.I hope future MMORPGs will does away with the old holy trinity and follow GW2's example.

    I gotta agree with that. The amazing action oriented combat of TERA is wasted on the Holy Trinity paradigm it has, because tanking as a lancer looks boring as hell (like in any other MMO) as opposed to DPSing as a Warrior. Just a shame that no matter a great the combat in TERA will be (compared to FF XIV), you're still stuck in those generic roles (DPS, Tank or Healer).

     

    Which is why the combat in none of these games will be as good as the combat in Guild Wars 2.

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  • stayontargetstayontarget Member RarePosts: 6,519

    Originally posted by Master10K

    Originally posted by SnarkRitter

    It is a great shame that TERA will have the old holy trinity.I hope future MMORPGs will does away with the old holy trinity and follow GW2's example.

    I gotta agree with that. The amazing action oriented combat of TERA is wasted on the Holy Trinity paradigm it has, because tanking as a lancer looks boring as hell (like in any other MMO) as opposed to DPSing as a Warrior. Just a shame that no matter a great the combat in TERA will be (as compared to FF XIV), you're still stuck in those generic roles (DPS, Tank or Healer).

     

    Which is why the combat in none of these games will be as good as the combat in Guild Wars 2.

    Thats because tera is designed with the focus on party play, GW2 is not.

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  • Zookz1Zookz1 Member Posts: 629

    Originally posted by Raxeon

    Originally posted by Nikkita

    And the monsters they fight..

    Lvl 20 FFXIV Lancer

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSsMa4WjnC4

    LVL 21 Tera Lancer

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00L6wznlVJA&fmt=22

     

    I had no idea how boring combat and monsters is in FFXIV untill i saw Tera. Wow!

     you do relize thats a boss theya re fighting. ffxiv is gettng them types of monsters in the next big patch

     

    Like giant sheep! I tremble in fear.

  • RaxeonRaxeon Member UncommonPosts: 2,288

    Originally posted by Zookz1

    Originally posted by Raxeon

    Originally posted by Nikkita

    And the monsters they fight..

    Lvl 20 FFXIV Lancer

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSsMa4WjnC4

    LVL 21 Tera Lancer

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00L6wznlVJA&fmt=22

     

    I had no idea how boring combat and monsters is in FFXIV untill i saw Tera. Wow!

     you do relize thats a boss theya re fighting. ffxiv is gettng them types of monsters in the next big patch

     

    Like giant sheep! I tremble in fear.

     thats only 1 of them

  • Master10KMaster10K Member Posts: 3,065

    Originally posted by stayontarget

    Originally posted by Master10K

    I gotta agree with that. The amazing action oriented combat of TERA is wasted on the Holy Trinity paradigm it has, because tanking as a lancer looks boring as hell (like in any other MMO) as opposed to DPSing as a Warrior. Just a shame that no matter a great the combat in TERA will be (compared to FF XIV), you're still stuck in those generic roles (DPS, Tank or Healer).

     

    Which is why the combat in none of these games will be as good as the combat in Guild Wars 2.

    Thats because tera is designed with the focus on party play, GW2 is not.

    GW2 is also designed with group play in mind (dungeons, scalable dynamic events, etc.); the devs just don't want to force people into a role, which is what every single MMO seems to do. I would rather play GW2 where I can be sword wielding Warrior and just switch to a Rifle, when I want; rather be a Lancer in TERA and be forced to poke my enemies to death, for hundreds of hours.

     

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  • RaxeonRaxeon Member UncommonPosts: 2,288

    Originally posted by Benthon

    Originally posted by Raxeon

    Originally posted by Nikkita

    And the monsters they fight..

    Lvl 20 FFXIV Lancer

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSsMa4WjnC4

    LVL 21 Tera Lancer

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00L6wznlVJA&fmt=22

     

    I had no idea how boring combat and monsters is in FFXIV untill i saw Tera. Wow!

     you do relize thats a boss theya re fighting. ffxiv is gettng them types of monsters in the next big patch

     That's an elite mob. You know, like WoW's elite mob. The monster is of no signficant importance to the game.

     if you look it says boss some where

  • BenthonBenthon Member Posts: 2,069

    Originally posted by Raxeon

    Originally posted by Benthon

    Originally posted by Raxeon

    Originally posted by Nikkita

    And the monsters they fight..

    Lvl 20 FFXIV Lancer

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSsMa4WjnC4

    LVL 21 Tera Lancer

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00L6wznlVJA&fmt=22

     

    I had no idea how boring combat and monsters is in FFXIV untill i saw Tera. Wow!

     you do relize thats a boss theya re fighting. ffxiv is gettng them types of monsters in the next big patch

     That's an elite mob. You know, like WoW's elite mob. The monster is of no signficant importance to the game.

     if you look it says boss some where

     All I see is Chinese. Some of the chinese translates to "elite monster", so I'm going to assume it's an elite mob.

    He who keeps his cool best wins.

  • revy66revy66 Member Posts: 464

    Originally posted by Master10K

    Originally posted by stayontarget


    Originally posted by Master10K



    I gotta agree with that. The amazing action oriented combat of TERA is wasted on the Holy Trinity paradigm it has, because tanking as a lancer looks boring as hell (like in any other MMO) as opposed to DPSing as a Warrior. Just a shame that no matter a great the combat in TERA will be (compared to FF XIV), you're still stuck in those generic roles (DPS, Tank or Healer).

     

    Which is why the combat in none of these games will be as good as the combat in Guild Wars 2.

    Thats because tera is designed with the focus on party play, GW2 is not.

    GW2 is also designed with group play in mind (dungeons, scalable dynamic events, etc.); the devs just don't want to force people into a role, which is what every single MMO seems to do. I would rather play GW2 where I can be sword wielding Warrior and just switch to a Rifle, when I want; rather be a Lancer in TERA and be forced to poke my enemies to death, for hundreds of hours.

     

    Variety is the spice of life.

    Hmm...don't like it.

  • DeserttFoxxDeserttFoxx Member UncommonPosts: 2,402

    Is tera out yet? No.. then this whole comparrision is pointless.

     

    Tera is still in devolopment, while we are at it, lets compare FFXIV to Guild wars 2, its a different type of game for different players. when tera comes out in 2 years, im sure ill play it, but for now, i dont really care to watch videos of it.

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  • BenthonBenthon Member Posts: 2,069

    Originally posted by DeserttFoxx

    when tera comes out in 2 years, im sure ill play it, but for now, i dont really care to watch videos of it.

     So don't watch the video and don't post here.

     

    Whoops! Too late. :P

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