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2011 A Silver Lining to a Grim Year for Gaming

2010, Arguably the second worst year in MMO history. Though most of us haven't been knee deep in the MMO culture for very long, the majority are vigilant enough to see that 2010, was a horrible year for the MMO's.

Carrying on the trend from 2009, arguably the bottom of the trough in this "MMO recession", whether it be spill over from major economic problems, or simply a slow death to a dieing breed of games, 2010 was Plagued by failure after failure. It did however have some redemption, a silver lining had appeared in the form of a new and exciting set of next-gen MMO's. Whether or not we are blinded by desperation, is yet to be decided. I too have felt the pangs of hunger, a thirst for adventure, a need for cleansing of the old, and birth of the new, but do we ask for too much?

It seams at times, that we as MMO players, are expecting our developers to re-invent the "MMO Wheel" so to speak, and it is a fine line between what is new this year, and what was recycled from last year. What we really want is a re-invention of the foundations of what constitutes an MMO, and thus we are stuck in a rut, looking through our cookie cutter glasses, never to be satisfied.

So let us look to the future with an open mind, and pray that we find that glimmer of joy we experienced, when we first set foot, into a virtual world.

~ A casual gamer.

Comments

  • angrylama15angrylama15 Member Posts: 23

    Feel free to discuss.

  • lilnate22lilnate22 Member Posts: 50

    not gonna happen. this is the same "feeling" we had in 2009. these "next-gen" mmos will also leave a bitter taste in our mouths

  • angrylama15angrylama15 Member Posts: 23

    I hope this isn't true, I really want to enjoy the genre again. Thanks for reading =]

  • VengeSunsoarVengeSunsoar Member EpicPosts: 6,601

    I'm pretty sure I can pull up this exact same post every year since 2004.

    Venge Sunsoar

    Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it is bad.
  • angrylama15angrylama15 Member Posts: 23

    I guess there are like-minded people out there :P

  • DeathspankDeathspank Member UncommonPosts: 139

    I honestly don't expect anything to change either. Gaming, in general is making a move towards the casual market, so don't get a heart attack when these games, that you think, will usher a new beginning for MMOs end up looking vaguely for alarmingly similar to "it which shall not be named"

     

    While Warcraft may not be may not be the most popular game on these boards for the direction in which it has taken the MMO industry, a very similar thing happened with consoles.

     

    When it was launched most gamers laughed at Nintendo's Wii saying it was a joke, and that Sony and Microsoft were the real trailblazers who would take console gaming into its bright and HD future. 5 years later, after Nintendo beat both of them combined in hardware sales, Sony and Microsoft are now playing catch up with the Move and KInect.

     

    Also keep in mind, from the time it was announced, virtually every game blog/podcast i saw, said that Kinect would fail hard since it was taking Microsofts (mostly) hardcore fanbase down the casual route with Kinectimals and Sports titles. Well the fact that it has sold more than 2.5 million units in 25 days should put that argument to rest.

     

    So don't scratch your head when the new batch of MMOs take the casual route. The days when MMOs were a played by a select, passionate few are long gone. Sadly, making games easy and accessible is far more important than making them challenging and innovative these days.  

     

     

     

     

  • IhmoteppIhmotepp Member Posts: 14,495

    I'm really only interested in one new release, which is The Old Republic.

    I think this is a make it or break it release.

    1. It's the first big release using the Hero Engine.

    2. It will be Pay to Play, and actual subscription game.

    3. Star Wars

    4. Probably one of the most expensive MMORPGs to develop so far.

     

    This is gonna determine what the future holds for big budget, known IP, subscription based games.

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  • stayontargetstayontarget Member RarePosts: 6,519

    Originally posted by angrylama15

    I guess there are like-minded people out there :P

    I with ya brother.  You never know then that great game will come out of the blue and grab you like no other.  I do believe my next mmo will come from the class of 2011.

    cheers.

    Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...

  • BeezerbeezBeezerbeez Member UncommonPosts: 302

    2009 was bad.  So many games and so much disappointment.  2010 didn't matter to me much, as I moved around from game to game like years past.  Every once in a while I find a jewel that keeps me around a few months and then I go searching again.  Some of us, "MMORPGers," have this curse of ennui where we're, seemingly, destined to walk in a nastalgic shadow of gloom searching for the game that takes us back while moving us forward.  Here's to 2011!

    /drink 

  • HyanmenHyanmen Member UncommonPosts: 5,357

    2011 won't be as worse, but it will be the 3rd worst. Every upcoming game is not going to live up to their expectations. Only one will not "fail", and that game isn't even a real MMO even if advertised as such.

    Using LOL is like saying "my argument sucks but I still want to disagree".
  • fatboy21007fatboy21007 Member Posts: 409

    1 game so far i know lives up to its promises and thats rifts. and if GW2 does also then theirs 2..year its not many but its fresh and alot of fun. and these guys took all of are issues with games n ended them with their games in their own style. probally will be few more but who knows 2011 isnt here so no one can say.but i know Rift's will be the good mmo of the years..just curious if their will be more or not.

  • channel84channel84 Member UncommonPosts: 585

    Originally posted by Ihmotepp

    I'm really only interested in one new release, which is The Old Republic.

    I think this is a make it or break it release.

    1. It's the first big release using the Hero Engine.

    2. It will be Pay to Play, and actual subscription game.

    3. Star Wars

    4. Probably one of the most expensive MMORPGs to develop so far.

     

    This is gonna determine what the future holds for big budget, known IP, subscription based games.

    warhammer online

    big ip -  check

    big budget - check

    sub base-check

    well known dev -check

    should i continue with age of conan or swg?

    I'm not criticizing TOR but i find your hype to be base on unrealistic assumption.

    Things i would go for TOR to be successful would probably be the casual tested and proven gameplay, decision making plot design, different story for different class, sci fi setting etc etc

  • HyanmenHyanmen Member UncommonPosts: 5,357

    Originally posted by Ihmotepp

    I'm really only interested in one new release, which is The Old Republic.

    You keep talking about how grouping is the pinnacle of MMO's, then get excited about a solo fest.

    What's wrong with you?

    Using LOL is like saying "my argument sucks but I still want to disagree".
  • KorPhaeronKorPhaeron Member Posts: 134

    Originally posted by VengeSunsoar

    I'm pretty sure I can pull up this exact same post every year since 2004.

    wise man is wise

  • HoplitesHoplites Member CommonPosts: 463

    To be honest,  I don't know what to expect, but I do think that 2011 will be a crossroads for the MMORPG industry.  If 2011 proves to be a lot like 2009 expect to see massive changes in the industry, more than likely better for us.  Basically, if they fail to deliver in 2011, then that is a sign that MMORPG players are finally willing to vote with their wallets against poor games.

     

  • AIMonsterAIMonster Member UncommonPosts: 2,059

    Originally posted by Hyanmen

    2011 won't be as worse, but it will be the 3rd worst. Every upcoming game is not going to live up to their expectations. Only one will not "fail", and that game isn't even a real MMO even if advertised as such.

    At least this year we are getting new features like dynamic content, improvements to storytelling, and more action-oriented combat.  Even if they are all failures, they might bring something new to the table at least.  2009 and 2010 didn't really bring anything new in the way of features, at least not MAJOR features.  Look at the lineup:

    Rift - Dynamic Content

    Guild Wars 2 - Dynamic Content, Personalized Story

    KOTOR - Improvements to storytelling, branches, etc.

    TERA - Combat without targetting, more action oriented

    Blade & Soul (beta rumored to begin in late 2011) - More action oriented combat and travel, combo system

    The Secret World (may not be a 2011 release) - More action oriented combat and ARG style puzzles rumored

    Let's not forgot that there are plenty of other lesser known titles being released next year that may just suprise.

    2009 and 2010 looked like bad years from the start.  All the information about the games that was slowly being released didn't really promise anything new and exciting.  I personally didn't have any good expectations from any of the MMOs on those years and I wasn't disappointed as much as I would have loved to be pleasantly suprised.  At least 2011 looks different and I have high hopes for at least a few of those titles succeeding.

  • BioNutBioNut Member Posts: 414

    2011 will be ruled by SWTOR (lets just say a little birdy told me). 2012 will be dominated by GW2 (since its not coming out in 2011).

    Playing: Tera, BF3, ME3

    Waiting on: Guild Wars 2

  • CzzarreCzzarre Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 3,742

    The upcoming 2011 (with highly anticipated games like GW2, Rift, SW:TOR)  reminds me of the 2008 season (with highly anticipated games like WAR and AoC).

    Question is will history repeat itself. I pray it doesnt. But even I know many of these upcoming games are not 'the answer' to the current MMO doldrums.

  • BioNutBioNut Member Posts: 414

    Originally posted by Czzarre

    The upcoming 2011 (with highly anticipated games like GW2, Rift, SW:TOR)  reminds me of the 2008 season (with highly anticipated games like WAR and AoC).

    Question is will history repeat itself. I pray it doesnt. But even I know many of these upcoming games are not 'the answer' to the current MMO doldrums.

    This is the second time you have posted this.....can you please go into detail what you believe this so called "Answer" is? I am ever so curious.

    Playing: Tera, BF3, ME3

    Waiting on: Guild Wars 2

  • angrylama15angrylama15 Member Posts: 23

    Originally posted by BioNut

    Originally posted by Czzarre

    The upcoming 2011 (with highly anticipated games like GW2, Rift, SW:TOR)  reminds me of the 2008 season (with highly anticipated games like WAR and AoC).

    Question is will history repeat itself. I pray it doesnt. But even I know many of these upcoming games are not 'the answer' to the current MMO doldrums.

    This is the second time you have posted this.....can you please go into detail what you believe this so called "Answer" is? I am ever so curious.

    Interesting point of view, and he is right in certain aspects, however, in 2008 when we where waiting the dismal 2009 lineup, most of us where relatively content with what was out at the time. Unlike now, we are  desperate for the market to take a step forward, and go back to being ahead of its time.

  • channel84channel84 Member UncommonPosts: 585

    @bionut

    please post a video link that you think is good for TOR....so far the gameplay i see is not really that impressive...maybe it's time to ask the expert to point me in the right direction. And i'm serious...not joking or trolling. I'll keep my mouth shut if it's bad but if it's good maybe i'll get on the hype train.

     

    Because right now i'm not buying into TOR just because of the bioware and starwar ip hype. Was really butthurt by warhammer online. And bioware taking over mythic and try but fail to turn warhammer online over doesn't bore well with my confident in bioware either.

     

    Also i would suggest more solid argument rather than sales and sales performance speculation. 

     

    Currently will probably go for rift when it came out...not really looking for something new...but rather a WoW replacement since blizzard didn't even consider making a sequel with improve graphic and feature even thou imo they have all the financial backing to do so.

     

    As for GW2....yes i'm on the hype train on this one. But the problem is the unannounce release date and i don't think your right with the 2012 prediction as if there were any hint at all like the fiscal report for the TOR lunch delay all the major mmo website will be blowing it off

  • herculeshercules Member UncommonPosts: 4,925

    Originally posted by VengeSunsoar

    I'm pretty sure I can pull up this exact same post every year since 2004.

    Venge Sunsoar

     As an oldie poster on this site i can tell you we even moaned same thing about 2003.2004 was a good year  but i recall the community fighing in 3 camps pre launch.EQ2,wow and Dark and light.

    You would not believe how much we all thought DnL was the dark horse coming to crush the big 2 coming out - wow and eq2.LOL memories.

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