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Your Perfect MMO

What would yours contain? Mine would contain: 


  1. A Medieval Fantasy theme

  2. A vast open world with instanced dungeons

  3. A challenging but not ridiculous crafting system

  4. Unique quests that actually tell the lore of the land

  5. Some grinding

  6. P2P

  7. No Cash Shops

  8. Hotkey Bars

  9. Advantages to working hard for your items

  10. Elaborate dungeons that hold the rarest loots

  11. Select advantages per race and class

  12. No Fast Travel unless you have visited the location first and only as some sort of flying creature, no horses like LOTRO.

  13. Farming, as in planting a seed and waiting for it to grow

  14. The ability to buy land

  15. Open world PvP

  16. Guild Towns

  17. Guild Town Sieges

  18. The ability to conquer and rule.

  19. A working economy

  20. Random events such as a group of trolls attacking a city or village

  21.  The ability to travel alone from time to time

  22. The ability to experiment with raw materials, fuels and temperatures to create new materials and what not.

  23. Warring Factions

  24. Separate worlds for those of us who choose evil over good or vice versa. I.E. having to sneak through sewers and cracks in the walls as an "evil" being in the cities. 
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  • mrw0lfmrw0lf Member Posts: 2,269

    No such thing and even if there were the last people to ask would be the gamers in question. Individuals have no idea what they want.

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  • LunicurLunicur Member Posts: 51

    Some individuals know what they want but I agree most don't. I made the thread for fun mainly, nothing too serious. 

  • RamadarRamadar Member Posts: 167

    My perfect MMO would take too long to develop.

    Evil will always triumph because good is dumb....

  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,780

    Originally posted by Lunicur

    What would yours contain? Mine would contain: 


    1. A Medieval Fantasy theme

    2. A vast open world with instanced dungeons

    3. A challenging but not ridiculous crafting system

    4. Unique quests that actually tell the lore of the land

    5. Some grinding

    6. P2P

    7. No Cash Shops

    8. Hotkey Bars

    9. Advantages to working hard for your items

    10. Elaborate dungeons that hold the rarest loots

    11. Select advantages per race and class

    12. No Fast Travel unless you have visited the location first and only as some sort of flying creature, no horses like LOTRO.

    13. Farming, as in planting a seed and waiting for it to grow

    14. The ability to buy land

    15. Open world PvP

    16. Guild Towns

    17. Guild Town Sieges

    18. The ability to conquer and rule.

    19. A working economy

    20. Random events such as a group of trolls attacking a city or village

    21.  The ability to travel alone from time to time

    22. The ability to experiment with raw materials, fuels and temperatures to create new materials and what not.

    23. Warring Factions

    24. Separate worlds for those of us who choose evil over good or vice versa. I.E. having to sneak through sewers and cracks in the walls as an "evil" being in the cities. 

    Yours is pretty close to mine

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  • yatzee81yatzee81 Member UncommonPosts: 25

    ^^ what he said...pretty close to mine as well. Although I would like PVP/PVE missions/quests like Global Agendas Double Agent.

  • spermbobspermbob Member Posts: 31

    1. games for adults. i don't talk about nude or ultra-violent games, i talk about a more challeging gameplay. many of the todays 30+ generation have still interest in mmorpg's. well, it would be very interesting to see a realistic simulated gameworld, without any influences from disney world or pokemon. i really hate pastel colors! 

    2. there are many good settings. choose maybe the postapocalytic, scifi, medival or a mix of all. just don't forget: you develop a game for matures. 

    3. open, open, open. we do not like grind or any other dull instances. if someone kills boss X, boss X, should be dead forever. the devs... or the AI... have to bring in new stuff. 

    4. community involvement. let em create content for you or let em vote about your own created content..

  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,780

    Originally posted by spermbob

    1. games for adults. i don't talk about nude or ultra-violent games, i talk about a more challeging gameplay. many of the todays 30+ generation have still interest in mmorpg's. well, it would be very interesting to see a realistic simulated gameworld, without any influences from disney world or pokemon. i really hate pastel colors! 

    2. there are many good settings. choose maybe the postapocalytic, scifi, medival or a mix of all. just don't forget: you develop a game for matures. 

    3. open, open, open. we do not like grind or any other dull instances. if someone kills boss X, boss X, should be dead forever. the devs... or the AI... have to bring in new stuff. 

    4. community involvement. let em create content for you or let em vote about your own created content..

    Well, my whole reason for trying mmo's was that I was, at the time, on a big morrowind/neverwinter nights kick.

    I thought that mmo's were like those except with other people.

    I was slightly wrong. image

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  • HenchdwarfHenchdwarf Member UncommonPosts: 517

    Originally posted by Lunicur

    What would yours contain? Mine would contain: 


    1. A Medieval Fantasy theme

    2. A vast open world with instanced dungeons

    3. A challenging but not ridiculous crafting system

    4. Unique quests that actually tell the lore of the land

    5. Some grinding

    6. P2P

    7. No Cash Shops

    8. Hotkey Bars

    9. Advantages to working hard for your items

    10. Elaborate dungeons that hold the rarest loots

    11. Select advantages per race and class

    12. No Fast Travel unless you have visited the location first and only as some sort of flying creature, no horses like LOTRO.

    13. Farming, as in planting a seed and waiting for it to grow

    14. The ability to buy land

    15. Open world PvP

    16. Guild Towns

    17. Guild Town Sieges

    18. The ability to conquer and rule.

    19. A working economy

    20. Random events such as a group of trolls attacking a city or village

    21.  The ability to travel alone from time to time

    22. The ability to experiment with raw materials, fuels and temperatures to create new materials and what not.

    23. Warring Factions

    24. Separate worlds for those of us who choose evil over good or vice versa. I.E. having to sneak through sewers and cracks in the walls as an "evil" being in the cities. 

     yeah, shadowbane was awesome. 

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  • dragonbranddragonbrand Member UncommonPosts: 441

    Originally posted by Lunicur

    What would yours contain? Mine would contain: 


    1. A Medieval Fantasy theme

    2. A vast open world with instanced dungeons

    3. A challenging but not ridiculous crafting system

    4. Unique quests that actually tell the lore of the land

    5. Some grinding

    6. P2P

    7. No Cash Shops

    8. Hotkey Bars

    9. Advantages to working hard for your items

    10. Elaborate dungeons that hold the rarest loots

    11. Select advantages per race and class

    12. No Fast Travel unless you have visited the location first and only as some sort of flying creature, no horses like LOTRO.

    13. Farming, as in planting a seed and waiting for it to grow

    14. The ability to buy land

    15. Open world PvP

    16. Guild Towns

    17. Guild Town Sieges

    18. The ability to conquer and rule.

    19. A working economy

    20. Random events such as a group of trolls attacking a city or village

    21.  The ability to travel alone from time to time

    22. The ability to experiment with raw materials, fuels and temperatures to create new materials and what not.

    23. Warring Factions

    24. Separate worlds for those of us who choose evil over good or vice versa. I.E. having to sneak through sewers and cracks in the walls as an "evil" being in the cities. 

     ^^ This

    1. With a tortage-like tutorial/starting area(s) before sending you out in the world.

    2. Also, a diplomacy function like Vanguard's that would also include it for guild-level diplomacy (leads into conquering or building alliances to rule territories).

    3. No quest markers.

    4. Indirect quests as well as direct quests. Indirect quest = local NPCs complaining about goblin raiders, you (and your friends?) go and eliminate the raiders. The NPC village would grant rep (good for diplomacy), some gold maybe a "sacred" item.

    5. Slow and intelligent mob respawns (requires a huge world).

    6. SWG-like crafting, harvesting with item durability that wears out with use can only be repaired to a portion of its full durability that lessens with each repair.

    Gaming since Avalon Hill was making board games.

    Played SWG, EVE, Fallen Earth, LOTRO, Rift, Vanguard, WoW, SWTOR, TSW, Tera
    Tried Aoc, Aion, EQII, RoM, Vindictus, Darkfail, DDO, GW, PotBS

  • BrenelaelBrenelael Member UncommonPosts: 3,821

    Originally posted by Sovrath

    Originally posted by Lunicur

    What would yours contain? Mine would contain: 


    1. A Medieval Fantasy theme

    2. A vast open world with instanced dungeons

    3. A challenging but not ridiculous crafting system

    4. Unique quests that actually tell the lore of the land

    5. Some grinding

    6. P2P

    7. No Cash Shops

    8. Hotkey Bars

    9. Advantages to working hard for your items

    10. Elaborate dungeons that hold the rarest loots

    11. Select advantages per race and class

    12. No Fast Travel unless you have visited the location first and only as some sort of flying creature, no horses like LOTRO.

    13. Farming, as in planting a seed and waiting for it to grow

    14. The ability to buy land

    15. Open world PvP

    16. Guild Towns

    17. Guild Town Sieges

    18. The ability to conquer and rule.

    19. A working economy

    20. Random events such as a group of trolls attacking a city or village

    21.  The ability to travel alone from time to time

    22. The ability to experiment with raw materials, fuels and temperatures to create new materials and what not.

    23. Warring Factions

    24. Separate worlds for those of us who choose evil over good or vice versa. I.E. having to sneak through sewers and cracks in the walls as an "evil" being in the cities. 

    Yours is pretty close to mine

    Pretty close to mine as well. I would add one more however

    25. Faction system where every individual group has a faction rating tied to it that changes based on your actions for or against said group. EQ1's was awesome and really added an extra level to the gameplay and immersion of that game.

     

    Bren

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  • inBOILinBOIL Member Posts: 669

    Cyberpunk rules + Blade Runner  visuals

    or

    RuneQuest rules + LoTR visuals.

    I cant decide,maybe both.

    Generation P

  • VrakorVrakor Member Posts: 26

    1. randomized resource node locations and trade caravans needed to move "heavy" resources around



    2. limited inventory looting ( non weapon / armor )



    3. twist pvp ideas ( ie. Necromancer slowly gaining power through class specific quests/ceremonials and be able to wield large undead armies but with every gain of power u would emit more easily trackable aura so Templars/Paladins can find u and reset the power gains )



    4.player specific crafting "recipes" so exact same recipe will wield different result from other players thus forcing experiments.



    5.item stats to be more closer to practical rather than buffs for player HP/DMG ( ie. better quality armor has more % to shatter arrow /deflect a hit ... better bow = more range / penetration ) with movement etc penalties the heavier stuff u wear.



    6.dying ingame would teleport you to your pre-designated player run village/NPC city and add a rez timer if you die too close to them to prevent spawn point running.



    7.special prices for killing Bots / gold farmers



    8.multi NPC faction central hub where u can list for ex. to Army and get some benefits / supply of decent armor but need to do Patrols/fight wars/catch criminals to earn your pay.



    9.gambling



    10."jail sentences" for smuggling , murder + multitude of other criminal activities happening in NPC governed areas ( this !!! i just love being Thief :P )



    could go on and on but those are just the top 10 that comes into mind besides all the stuff OP and others allready posted.

  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,780

    Originally posted by Vrakor





    7.special prices for killing Bots / gold farmers

     

    too exploitable.

    I've seen players playing in the same spot for ages who were accused of being bots. They didn't look like bots to me but becasue they were in the same spot "suddenly" they were bots.

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    Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547

    Try the "Special Edition." 'Cause it's "Special." https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/64878/?tab=description

    Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo 
  • VrakorVrakor Member Posts: 26

    Originally posted by Sovrath

    Originally posted by Vrakor





    7.special prices for killing Bots / gold farmers

     

    too exploitable.

    I've seen players playing in the same spot for ages who were accused of being bots. They didn't look like bots to me but becasue they were in the same spot "suddenly" they were bots.

    naturally it would be to developer to reward the players after they have verified / banned the account for botting ... but yeah all in all it might be abit too much hassle . i added that mostly as a joke but hey its still an idea hehe

  • s1fu71s1fu71 Member Posts: 220

    Oddly, I don't have a list for the "perfect" mmo.

    What I want changes for the genre.

    What I want, or expect, from a super hero mmo is vastly different from a

    space faring mmo or a high fantasy mmo.

    If a game is coming out and sounds entertaining, I wait for it to come out and

    read the reviews posters make. Did the company deliver on what they claimed?

    If they did not deliver on everything they said they would, then I have to ask:

    Are they continuing to try? Is there potential for positive change in the direction

    the community asks for?

    It's not about fighting, it's about balance. It's not about enlightenment, it's about balance. It's not about balance.

  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,780

    Originally posted by Vrakor

    Originally posted by Sovrath


    Originally posted by Vrakor





    7.special prices for killing Bots / gold farmers

     

    too exploitable.

    I've seen players playing in the same spot for ages who were accused of being bots. They didn't look like bots to me but becasue they were in the same spot "suddenly" they were bots.

    naturally it would be to developer to reward the players after they have verified / banned the account for botting ... but yeah all in all it might be abit too much hassle . i added that mostly as a joke but hey its still an idea hehe

    well that might work. though they might be inundated with a lot of accusations against people who weren't bots/gold sellers.

    but sure, anything that works to get rid of gold sellers.

    Like Skyrim? Need more content? Try my Skyrim mod "Godfred's Tomb." 

    Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w


    Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547

    Try the "Special Edition." 'Cause it's "Special." https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/64878/?tab=description

    Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo 
  • VrakorVrakor Member Posts: 26

    Originally posted by Sovrath

    Originally posted by Vrakor


    Originally posted by Sovrath


    Originally posted by Vrakor





    7.special prices for killing Bots / gold farmers

     

    too exploitable.

    I've seen players playing in the same spot for ages who were accused of being bots. They didn't look like bots to me but becasue they were in the same spot "suddenly" they were bots.

    naturally it would be to developer to reward the players after they have verified / banned the account for botting ... but yeah all in all it might be abit too much hassle . i added that mostly as a joke but hey its still an idea hehe

    well that might work. though they might be inundated with a lot of accusations against people who weren't bots/gold sellers.

    but sure, anything that works to get rid of gold sellers.

    i often found that i was too lazy to report obvious bots in the games ive played ... so u could take it as motivating the playerbase to take part in the fight against RMT. i bet i have been reported too because of my habit to stay at one spot and farm mobs for 8 hours straight :P

    edit: the reward doesnt even have to be anything more than a title for ex. >Bots Hate Me< .. that would make me happy :D

  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,780

    Originally posted by Vrakor

    Originally posted by Sovrath


    Originally posted by Vrakor


    Originally posted by Sovrath


    Originally posted by Vrakor





    7.special prices for killing Bots / gold farmers

     

    too exploitable.

    I've seen players playing in the same spot for ages who were accused of being bots. They didn't look like bots to me but becasue they were in the same spot "suddenly" they were bots.

    naturally it would be to developer to reward the players after they have verified / banned the account for botting ... but yeah all in all it might be abit too much hassle . i added that mostly as a joke but hey its still an idea hehe

    well that might work. though they might be inundated with a lot of accusations against people who weren't bots/gold sellers.

    but sure, anything that works to get rid of gold sellers.

    i often found that i was too lazy to report obvious bots in the games ive played ... so u could take it as motivating the playerbase to take part in the fight against RMT. i bet i have been reported too because of my habit to stay at one spot and farm mobs for 8 hours straight :P

    edit: the reward doesnt even have to be anything more than a title for ex. >Bots Hate Me< .. that would make me happy :D

    I have such a long e-mail list of all the responses from NC Soft whenever I reported a gold advertiser in Aion that i had to make a separate folder.

    They used to be pretty good at removing them. At least in a few hours. So good in fact that once I had logged in about 6 or 7 hours after the fact and saw someone I reported. I almost wrote them again to scold them.

    I think my perfect mmo would have gm's who patrolled the game and made sure that areas were clear.

    Like Skyrim? Need more content? Try my Skyrim mod "Godfred's Tomb." 

    Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w


    Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547

    Try the "Special Edition." 'Cause it's "Special." https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/64878/?tab=description

    Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo 
  • theinvadertheinvader Member UncommonPosts: 240

    A completed version of Infinity: The Quest for Earth, with next-gen graphics and the ability to get out of your ship and have an avatar, with F/TPS-style ground combat.

     

    OR

     

    A realistic world completely uninhabited by NPCs or NPS cities or anything. Every play starts with nothing at all and you have to work to build a society and civilisation from scratch, which in the later stages of a server would reach as far as modern day society and even into the future.

    Always read the small print.

  • skeaserskeaser Member RarePosts: 4,200

    EQ1 with updated graphics and UI in a new setting.

    Sig so that badges don't eat my posts.


  • ForgeknightForgeknight Member Posts: 35

    One that doesn't let people who post on forums all day create a toon.

  • VrakorVrakor Member Posts: 26

    Originally posted by Sovrath

    I think my perfect mmo would have gm's who patrolled the game and made sure that areas were clear.

    no argument there ... the best , allthough resource hungry way to deal with the problem.

  • NethermancerNethermancer Member Posts: 520

    Take EVE online and D&D and smash them together with a bioware story line and the polish of WoW. And make it in an apocalyptic/horror setting with zombies....lots of zombie.

    Playing: PO, EVE
    Waiting for: WoD
    Favourite MMOs: VG, EVE, FE and DDO
    Any person who expresses rage and loathing for an MMO is preposterous. He or she is like a person who has put on full armor and attacked a hot fudge sundae.

  • skeaserskeaser Member RarePosts: 4,200

    Originally posted by Forgeknight

    One that doesn't let people who post on forums all day create a toon.

    If that game existed less of us would post.

    Sig so that badges don't eat my posts.


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