Do not agree at all. Just hit 50 and having an absolute blast. The legendary weapons uped the fun factor for me even more. I log in every night just itching to see what the game has to offer around the next corner. Have not had a bad pug experience yet. The difficulty factor to me seems to be perfectly balanced.
I think i tried more than 100+ legendary weapons for my Runekeeper and Guardian , i never go the stats i needed. I always got and sorry for the bad works, complete mixed up BS stats.
I wanted a good Lightning Runestone since L53 and got healing or Firestats on it or whatever i couldnt use. I went to barter more and more Legendaries and nothing...... i still use a Level 53 Runestone and a L55 bag because i couldnt get anything worth to level. This Legendary System sucks, its plain random cr.ap. i absolutely hate it and i see no sense in dissapointing players like this system does.
P.S i really miss some true PvP in this game. One Zone for PvP is to less. Warhammer only has PvP instances. i would like to see them in Lotro.
Do not agree at all. Just hit 50 and having an absolute blast. The legendary weapons uped the fun factor for me even more. I log in every night just itching to see what the game has to offer around the next corner. Have not had a bad pug experience yet. The difficulty factor to me seems to be perfectly balanced.
No wonder. The game is actually great until level 50ish. You have been playing Lord of the Rings.
From lvl 60 onwards you will be playing another game: Lord of the Grinds. You are going to be doing less and less things, more and more times, and it only gets worse.
100% agree with Gordfliu. He pretty much nailed the two biggest reasons I left LoTRO.
1. Turbine being the carebear and nerfing literally everything. God mode books are hilarious as to how easy they are, completely takes the charm out of it now.
2. Only delivering content for the solo crowd.
The game was fully solo-able even before they noobified Lone Lands. Its just ridiculous that they are willing to delete group quests, instead of developing a better LFF tool like the one in their own game - DDO, or like dungeon finder in WoW or countless other MMOs that have a better LFF tool. Its almost as if they are giving the finger to people who like a little balance betwen solo and grouping content.
Lets see how the future goes, thought with the F2P carebear attitude, I'm not expecting much. Just waiting for Square Enix to get FF14 straight. They're one of the devs capable of making a proper challenging PvE MMO and keeping it that way.
100% agree with Gordfliu. He pretty much nailed the two biggest reasons I left LoTRO.
1. Turbine being the carebear and nerfing literally everything. God mode books are hilarious as to how easy they are, completely takes the charm out of it now.
2. Only delivering content for the solo crowd.
The game was fully solo-able even before they noobified Lone Lands. Its just ridiculous that they are willing to delete group quests, instead of developing a better LFF tool like the one in their own game - DDO, or like dungeon finder in WoW or countless other MMOs that have a better LFF tool. Its almost as if they are giving the finger to people who like a little balance betwen solo and grouping content.
Lets see how the future goes, thought with the F2P carebear attitude, I'm not expecting much. Just waiting for Square Enix to get FF14 straight. They're one of the devs capable of making a proper challenging PvE MMO and keeping it that way.
Give players that group like 50-100% xp bonus and some more people will group ?
Give groups a higher chance on great loot on normal quests than solo players ?
Whatever Lotro doesnt deliver it.....
All in all in almost 4 month i met more Solo players than grouping people. If i asked them to join me they were mostly busy doing their solo stuff. When i got asked to group honestly, i told them the same.
Lotro is a depressive solo adventure, once a player reaches Moria its getting even worse.
One day when Im old and in diapers I'll hit max level and get to complain like you guys. My experience with lotro is it's an amazing experience for a casual altaholic like myself. I have no idea what short-comings Lotro has when it comes to the power gamer or hardcore raiding focused individual.
WOW, just WOW.... my head exploded at your hypocricy. Replace OP with Rockgod and replace Rockgod with a world of warcraft fan. And this post can fit just perfectly in world of warcraft forums. Just shows that as long as you like what you are playing you can use same excuses in defense which you usually use to bash that other game you dislike.
Hush WoWfanboi. Lotro's leveling experience blows WoW out the water. You cant casually level in WoW because it sucks, your forced to get to max as fast as possible because item whoring is the only reason to play.
Lotro's leveling experience is so good its the closest mmorpgs have ever come to the quality of a single player rpg.
Cant say that about WoW, so shut.
Again lotro's leveling game is pure fucking epicness, While WoWs sucks ass and its only in the way of the true cheese wheel item grind.
Leveling in Moria is alot harder than 1-50 and there is and was alot of people complaining about it. But you seem to think that Tediouse=Hard. But they have made the game more fun and accesible in other areas of the game.
Listen, I am not comparing present areas to present areas, that in no way shows wether the game is easier or not. I am comparing what the game was before with what the game is now. Moria beeing harder than The Shire does not support your theory in any way and is not related to it in any form.
Ok so why are you quoting me if you are not discussing the point I make? Once you reach lvl 50 and enter Moria the game become much harder, you even agree with what Im saying but trying spin it into another dircetion... Read what the OP is about again.
If WoW = The Beatles and WAR = Led Zeppelin Then LotrO = Pink Floyd
100% agree with Gordfliu. He pretty much nailed the two biggest reasons I left LoTRO.
1. Turbine being the carebear and nerfing literally everything. God mode books are hilarious as to how easy they are, completely takes the charm out of it now.
2. Only delivering content for the solo crowd.
The game was fully solo-able even before they noobified Lone Lands. Its just ridiculous that they are willing to delete group quests, instead of developing a better LFF tool like the one in their own game - DDO, or like dungeon finder in WoW or countless other MMOs that have a better LFF tool. Its almost as if they are giving the finger to people who like a little balance betwen solo and grouping content.
Lets see how the future goes, thought with the F2P carebear attitude, I'm not expecting much. Just waiting for Square Enix to get FF14 straight. They're one of the devs capable of making a proper challenging PvE MMO and keeping it that way.
Lotro is a depressive solo adventure, once a player reaches Moria its getting even worse.
It actually wasn't like that two years ago. Lone Lands was awesome - the game's way of telling the new players "man up, don't go into enemy dominated areas without people and welcome to Middle Earth". Made so many friends while pug'ing in LL it was crazy, its how I ended up joining my kin. There was a lot of thrill in the game and those who liked to solo could easily do that even before the skirmish system, I solo'd like 80% of the time, infact Turbine even wrote their own guide to level to max solo. Game was fun as hell then.
Then something happened. Instead of improving the game with more social/grouping features they started deleting the group content, making solo content even easier, nerfed the elites, went F2P, got bought out and since then have only focused on making the game easier and easier. I don't have a problem with more autoattack solo content as long as its offset with more challenging group content - Just look at what Blizzard just did with Cataclysm if you need an example of that. This is an MMO FFS, if I wanted to solo 100% of the time I would go play Oblivion,Demon's Souls,Dragon Age,Witcher etc.
i just made a new char on Brandywine for some testing. for exaclty 60 minutes i asked for team in the Shire, there were more than 40+ players level 2-16 in the are. my char is a Hunter level 8 (levels fastest). i asked in LFF for Teams, Partner etc etc. I sent /tells to some Level 7+ players and asked them if they wanna do some quests togheter with me.
NOT ONE OF THEM WANTED TO GROUP !
i went to Moria , i have a 57 Warden and a 60 RK in the 21st Hall. 30+ players around. I asked for group for different quests. I got one offer for Skirmish and one Kinship invite.....
Went out of Moria to Lothrien, 7 players 55-61 there... asked them all not one wanted to group. They were all Soloing. One Guardian was killing Orcs for his daily, i asked him to join me for faster kills. He: "no thnx, i am login soon".......30 mins he was still there and i asked him again , he didnt reply anymore
I am often healing others when passing by, i hope to get a "thnx" so i see they are nice and maybe theres a possibility to group with them, but the most refuse to even send a "thank you". Maybe they are worried that i could ask them to group.
This game is a Solo game only some Kinship veterans are still running groups and raids. 99% are crazed soloers that never group not even at higher level.....
anyways i lost the will to login, usually when that happens after playing a mmorpg and getting pissed to much i either look for another game or just dont touch mmorpgs anymore for many month.
* depressions from Morias underground, after two weeks in Moria i just cant stand it anymore to be underground
* Moria is to big and confusing, so much running for one or two quests and little xp and crap rewards
* 99% of the quest rewards are useless for my class or just trash
* No more skills to look forward to since Level 55 (skills after 50 are useless for my class)
* Only group content to get new good Items.. Quest rewards are trash.. nothing i could use
* i am forced to join a Kinship (guild) to advance (or grind,do boring solo quests for tiny xp)
* after Level 60 everything is the same, kill 10 xOrcs burn 10x Barriers, Kill 20 Birds....... simple and Korean like...
* the Legendary items always have the wrong random stats, they are never as i want them. what a stupid system....
* most PUG´s are just frustrating.. i am playing healer or tank either the Healers DPS while i die or the DPS cant manage agro and taunt doesnt have enough effect.
really anice game until Level 55 then it becomes boring... Eregon was the last well made zone after that in Moria its a Labirynt of endless searching and slow walking ....
Dont flame to much guys, most of the guys that started with me 4 month ago left long ago.. not one of them made it to 50+, they returned to WoW or other games..
Hmmm Moria for some can do that to a person, I don't know that the type of quests yu get change in Moria its just that finding your way around Moria can be a much more daunting task than in any of the game before it and as such it can trivialize what you accomplish there (atleast how I felt).
I do wish they had a few more areas that encompassed the mid 50's but my experience is that you can get through the game spending minimal time in Moria if you chose too, you would just level much slower possibly.
Certainly though by sixty there is no reason you should feel like you have to stay and grind the quests in Moria, you can gain experience and have a pretty rewarding time levelling to end game just by going once through Lorien and Mirkwood without doing dailies at all if you didn't want to.
I think your complaints though are reasonable and can see how that could be ones opinion the thing about it though is my experience with Turbine is they are always improving all types of facets of the game and the biggest complaints are usually handled and this is something that I imagine that we will see improved upon at some point.
but yeah, to call this game Fantastic is like calling Twilight the Godfather of vampire movies....
One day when Im old and in diapers I'll hit max level and get to complain like you guys. My experience with lotro is it's an amazing experience for a casual altaholic like myself. I have no idea what short-comings Lotro has when it comes to the power gamer or hardcore raiding focused individual.
WOW, just WOW.... my head exploded at your hypocricy. Replace OP with Rockgod and replace Rockgod with a world of warcraft fan. And this post can fit just perfectly in world of warcraft forums. Just shows that as long as you like what you are playing you can use same excuses in defense which you usually use to bash that other game you dislike.
Hush WoWfanboi. Lotro's leveling experience blows WoW out the water. You cant casually level in WoW because it sucks, your forced to get to max as fast as possible because item whoring is the only reason to play.
Lotro's leveling experience is so good its the closest mmorpgs have ever come to the quality of a single player rpg.
Cant say that about WoW, so shut.
Again lotro's leveling game is pure fucking epicness, While WoWs sucks ass and its only in the way of the true cheese wheel item grind.
One day when Im old and in diapers I'll hit max level and get to complain like you guys. My experience with lotro is it's an amazing experience for a casual altaholic like myself. I have no idea what short-comings Lotro has when it comes to the power gamer or hardcore raiding focused individual.
WOW, just WOW.... my head exploded at your hypocricy. Replace OP with Rockgod and replace Rockgod with a world of warcraft fan. And this post can fit just perfectly in world of warcraft forums. Just shows that as long as you like what you are playing you can use same excuses in defense which you usually use to bash that other game you dislike.
Hush WoWfanboi. Lotro's leveling experience blows WoW out the water. You cant casually level in WoW because it sucks, your forced to get to max as fast as possible because item whoring is the only reason to play.
Lotro's leveling experience is so good its the closest mmorpgs have ever come to the quality of a single player rpg.
Cant say that about WoW, so shut.
Again lotro's leveling game is pure fucking epicness, While WoWs sucks ass and its only in the way of the true cheese wheel item grind.
Describes leveling in LotRO quite well.
And that's a good thing. Want a group focused game? Play a sandbox.
if you are bored, try helping other players. it can be very rewarding.
not in lotro
It is for me. I've helped and have been helped by players playing out in the game world. I have quite a large friends list due to the way I play. I would consider that rewarding. I guess its not considered rewarding if you dont get a epic item of pawnage for helping a person out these days...
To the people that think like that, you're the reason this genre mostly sucks fat donkey dick.
One day when Im old and in diapers I'll hit max level and get to complain like you guys. My experience with lotro is it's an amazing experience for a casual altaholic like myself. I have no idea what short-comings Lotro has when it comes to the power gamer or hardcore raiding focused individual.
WOW, just WOW.... my head exploded at your hypocricy. Replace OP with Rockgod and replace Rockgod with a world of warcraft fan. And this post can fit just perfectly in world of warcraft forums. Just shows that as long as you like what you are playing you can use same excuses in defense which you usually use to bash that other game you dislike.
Hush WoWfanboi. Lotro's leveling experience blows WoW out the water. You cant casually level in WoW because it sucks, your forced to get to max as fast as possible because item whoring is the only reason to play.
Lotro's leveling experience is so good its the closest mmorpgs have ever come to the quality of a single player rpg.
Cant say that about WoW, so shut.
Again lotro's leveling game is pure fucking epicness, While WoWs sucks ass and its only in the way of the true cheese wheel item grind.
I am not a WOWFANBOI (what are you 12?) i am just a guy who plays every MMO out there and is not part of any elite camps. Lotro's leveling expeince is same as WOW. I have a Champion and Burgler sitting at max levels so its not that i haven't seen anything. And that was before when lower level quests and books were turned into solo quests. I can level solo in LOTRO without any problems i can do the same in WOW. Moreover, there is plenty of item whoring in LOTRO too. you are in denail if you think players are enjoying the leveling experince and don't care for the loot.
Moreover, don't try to force your gear menality on entire WOW player base. yeah we know you hate the game so to expect any logic from you in discussion is impossible.
However, i suggest learn to forumlate a sentence in proper manner, you sound like a whiny little teenage girl who got a hole in her pink dress. Seriously.
Who could have thought that WOW could bring super power like USA to its knees?
Originally posted by Arcken
To put it in a nutshell, our society is about to hit the fan, grades are dropping, obesity is going up,childhood the USA is going to lose its super power status before too long, but hey, as long as we have a cheap method to babysit our kids, all will be well no? Im picking on WoW btw because its the beast that made all of this possible
One day when Im old and in diapers I'll hit max level and get to complain like you guys. My experience with lotro is it's an amazing experience for a casual altaholic like myself. I have no idea what short-comings Lotro has when it comes to the power gamer or hardcore raiding focused individual.
WOW, just WOW.... my head exploded at your hypocricy. Replace OP with Rockgod and replace Rockgod with a world of warcraft fan. And this post can fit just perfectly in world of warcraft forums. Just shows that as long as you like what you are playing you can use same excuses in defense which you usually use to bash that other game you dislike.
Hush WoWfanboi. Lotro's leveling experience blows WoW out the water. You cant casually level in WoW because it sucks, your forced to get to max as fast as possible because item whoring is the only reason to play.
Lotro's leveling experience is so good its the closest mmorpgs have ever come to the quality of a single player rpg.
Cant say that about WoW, so shut.
Again lotro's leveling game is pure fucking epicness, While WoWs sucks ass and its only in the way of the true cheese wheel item grind.
Some really amazing argument skills there. You convinced us all..... no really!!!!
How do you expect me to even comment on your posts when you say shit like this?
WoW has nothing, and i mean nothing to compare Lotro's wonderfully designed Epic ring quest chain to.
Lotro's main quest is so well done you could take it and put it into a normal high quality Rpg and people would play it.
The stroylines within the Zones are incredible all with their own stories and conflicts that the player most deal with.
The game pushes you to make the most of every zone through its deed system.
You have nothing like that in WoW, so please lets stop comparing the two.
You can't because there is nothing to say. And i am not the one making comparisons here. I just had to point out your hypocricy. Playing a game which is the closest WOW clone and then flaming WOW whatever chance you get.
/facepalm
Who could have thought that WOW could bring super power like USA to its knees?
Originally posted by Arcken
To put it in a nutshell, our society is about to hit the fan, grades are dropping, obesity is going up,childhood the USA is going to lose its super power status before too long, but hey, as long as we have a cheap method to babysit our kids, all will be well no? Im picking on WoW btw because its the beast that made all of this possible
Some really amazing argument skills there. You convinced us all..... no really!!!!
It wasnt an attempt to debate the topic...
New to mmorpg.com? we dont discuss/debate here.
People here have their own opinions and ways set in stone. Its basically each side jumping up and down like a bunch of three year olds saying eachother is wrong.
Mmorpg.com forums are just mindless ranting by people with rose colored glasses or forum warriors with hidden agendas.
However, i suggest learn to forumlate a sentence in proper manner, you sound like a whiny little teenage girl who got a hole in her pink dress. Seriously.
If you're going to attack someone like that, at least take the time to put together a sentence that doesn't have grammar errors and missing words
"Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb
However, i suggest learn to forumlate a sentence in proper manner, you sound like a whiny little teenage girl who got a hole in her pink dress. Seriously.
If you're going to attack someone like that, at least take the time to put together a sentence that doesn't have grammar errors and missing words
Thank you for your concern but i would rather have a sentence with bad grammar then random insults and cussing.
Who could have thought that WOW could bring super power like USA to its knees?
Originally posted by Arcken
To put it in a nutshell, our society is about to hit the fan, grades are dropping, obesity is going up,childhood the USA is going to lose its super power status before too long, but hey, as long as we have a cheap method to babysit our kids, all will be well no? Im picking on WoW btw because its the beast that made all of this possible
How do you expect me to even comment on your posts when you say shit like this?
WoW has nothing, and i mean nothing to compare Lotro's wonderfully designed Epic ring quest chain to.
Lotro's main quest is so well done you could take it and put it into a normal high quality Rpg and people would play it.
The stroylines within the Zones are incredible all with their own stories and conflicts that the player most deal with.
The game pushes you to make the most of every zone through its deed system.
You have nothing like that in WoW, so please lets stop comparing the two.
You can't because there is nothing to say. And i am not the one making comparisons here. I just had to point out your hypocricy. Playing a game which is the closest WOW clone and then flaming WOW whatever chance you get.
/facepalm
Oh here we go... so every quest focused & raid centric game is a wowclone?
How is lotro a wow clone... the classes are different, combat is different, the way the game handles its questing system is different, crafting is different ( the way its structured and integrated with craft guilds), endgame is totally different (solo, 3,6,12,24 man content), pvp is different, WoW has nothing like Lotro's Skirmish system, The deeds system is totally unique to WoW, Lotro has housing, social clothing tabs, even the way turbine handles its events is different.
OMG man you people drive me nuts with the WoWclone BS...
How do you expect me to even comment on your posts when you say shit like this?
WoW has nothing, and i mean nothing to compare Lotro's wonderfully designed Epic ring quest chain to.
Lotro's main quest is so well done you could take it and put it into a normal high quality Rpg and people would play it.
The stroylines within the Zones are incredible all with their own stories and conflicts that the player most deal with.
The game pushes you to make the most of every zone through its deed system.
You have nothing like that in WoW, so please lets stop comparing the two.
You can't because there is nothing to say. And i am not the one making comparisons here. I just had to point out your hypocricy. Playing a game which is the closest WOW clone and then flaming WOW whatever chance you get.
/facepalm
Oh here we go... so every quest focused & raid centric game is a wowclone?
How is lotro a wow clone... the classes are different, combat is different, the way the game handles its questing system is different, crafting is different ( the way its structured and integrated with craft guilds), endgame is totally different (solo, 3,6,12,24 man content), pvp is different, WoW has nothing like Lotro's Skirmish system, The deeds system is totally unique to WoW, Lotro has housing, social clothing tabs, even the way turbine handles its events is different.
OMG man you people drive me nuts with the WoWclone BS...
Don't look at me, i am just using your own logic here. Combat isn't different, questing isn't different, crafting isn't different, end game isn't different either, PVP sucks in LOTOR so you may call it different. I agree on housing, clothing and skirmish part though.
Now if i call EVE online a WOW clone, that would be a problem.
Who could have thought that WOW could bring super power like USA to its knees?
Originally posted by Arcken
To put it in a nutshell, our society is about to hit the fan, grades are dropping, obesity is going up,childhood the USA is going to lose its super power status before too long, but hey, as long as we have a cheap method to babysit our kids, all will be well no? Im picking on WoW btw because its the beast that made all of this possible
So WoW has one giant quest line that takes the player from level 1 to max like Lotro? It integrates a Deed system into the entire experience that also ties into chracter progression besides just gaining XP?
IN WoW i have access to crafting guilds? a three pronged system that's dependent on other professions? I actually make worthwhile endgame items in WoW? Legendary items?
Combat is the same? So i have fellowship manuevers in WoW?
lol @ fellowship maneuvers, that's the best you can come up with?
But I agree with you on the LoTRO = Best single player LoTR RPG experience.
Hopefully, War In The North takes that title when it releases. If you see Snowblind Studios track record, we could have a gem of an Action-RPG here. Oh and it has 3 man co-op from start to finish..that's already more group quests that LoTRO xD
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I think i tried more than 100+ legendary weapons for my Runekeeper and Guardian , i never go the stats i needed. I always got and sorry for the bad works, complete mixed up BS stats.
I wanted a good Lightning Runestone since L53 and got healing or Firestats on it or whatever i couldnt use. I went to barter more and more Legendaries and nothing...... i still use a Level 53 Runestone and a L55 bag because i couldnt get anything worth to level. This Legendary System sucks, its plain random cr.ap. i absolutely hate it and i see no sense in dissapointing players like this system does.
P.S i really miss some true PvP in this game. One Zone for PvP is to less. Warhammer only has PvP instances. i would like to see them in Lotro.
No wonder. The game is actually great until level 50ish. You have been playing Lord of the Rings.
From lvl 60 onwards you will be playing another game: Lord of the Grinds. You are going to be doing less and less things, more and more times, and it only gets worse.
You have been warned.
100% agree with Gordfliu. He pretty much nailed the two biggest reasons I left LoTRO.
1. Turbine being the carebear and nerfing literally everything. God mode books are hilarious as to how easy they are, completely takes the charm out of it now.
2. Only delivering content for the solo crowd.
The game was fully solo-able even before they noobified Lone Lands. Its just ridiculous that they are willing to delete group quests, instead of developing a better LFF tool like the one in their own game - DDO, or like dungeon finder in WoW or countless other MMOs that have a better LFF tool. Its almost as if they are giving the finger to people who like a little balance betwen solo and grouping content.
Lets see how the future goes, thought with the F2P carebear attitude, I'm not expecting much. Just waiting for Square Enix to get FF14 straight. They're one of the devs capable of making a proper challenging PvE MMO and keeping it that way.
Give players that group like 50-100% xp bonus and some more people will group ?
Give groups a higher chance on great loot on normal quests than solo players ?
Whatever Lotro doesnt deliver it.....
All in all in almost 4 month i met more Solo players than grouping people. If i asked them to join me they were mostly busy doing their solo stuff. When i got asked to group honestly, i told them the same.
Lotro is a depressive solo adventure, once a player reaches Moria its getting even worse.
Hush WoWfanboi. Lotro's leveling experience blows WoW out the water. You cant casually level in WoW because it sucks, your forced to get to max as fast as possible because item whoring is the only reason to play.
Lotro's leveling experience is so good its the closest mmorpgs have ever come to the quality of a single player rpg.
Cant say that about WoW, so shut.
Again lotro's leveling game is pure fucking epicness, While WoWs sucks ass and its only in the way of the true cheese wheel item grind.
Playing: Rift, LotRO
Waiting on: GW2, BP
Ok so why are you quoting me if you are not discussing the point I make? Once you reach lvl 50 and enter Moria the game become much harder, you even agree with what Im saying but trying spin it into another dircetion... Read what the OP is about again.
If WoW = The Beatles
and WAR = Led Zeppelin
Then LotrO = Pink Floyd
It actually wasn't like that two years ago. Lone Lands was awesome - the game's way of telling the new players "man up, don't go into enemy dominated areas without people and welcome to Middle Earth". Made so many friends while pug'ing in LL it was crazy, its how I ended up joining my kin. There was a lot of thrill in the game and those who liked to solo could easily do that even before the skirmish system, I solo'd like 80% of the time, infact Turbine even wrote their own guide to level to max solo. Game was fun as hell then.
Then something happened. Instead of improving the game with more social/grouping features they started deleting the group content, making solo content even easier, nerfed the elites, went F2P, got bought out and since then have only focused on making the game easier and easier. I don't have a problem with more autoattack solo content as long as its offset with more challenging group content - Just look at what Blizzard just did with Cataclysm if you need an example of that. This is an MMO FFS, if I wanted to solo 100% of the time I would go play Oblivion,Demon's Souls,Dragon Age,Witcher etc.
i just made a new char on Brandywine for some testing. for exaclty 60 minutes i asked for team in the Shire, there were more than 40+ players level 2-16 in the are. my char is a Hunter level 8 (levels fastest). i asked in LFF for Teams, Partner etc etc. I sent /tells to some Level 7+ players and asked them if they wanna do some quests togheter with me.
NOT ONE OF THEM WANTED TO GROUP !
i went to Moria , i have a 57 Warden and a 60 RK in the 21st Hall. 30+ players around. I asked for group for different quests. I got one offer for Skirmish and one Kinship invite.....
Went out of Moria to Lothrien, 7 players 55-61 there... asked them all not one wanted to group. They were all Soloing. One Guardian was killing Orcs for his daily, i asked him to join me for faster kills. He: "no thnx, i am login soon".......30 mins he was still there and i asked him again , he didnt reply anymore
I am often healing others when passing by, i hope to get a "thnx" so i see they are nice and maybe theres a possibility to group with them, but the most refuse to even send a "thank you". Maybe they are worried that i could ask them to group.
This game is a Solo game only some Kinship veterans are still running groups and raids. 99% are crazed soloers that never group not even at higher level.....
anyways i lost the will to login, usually when that happens after playing a mmorpg and getting pissed to much i either look for another game or just dont touch mmorpgs anymore for many month.
(no native english)
Hmmm Moria for some can do that to a person, I don't know that the type of quests yu get change in Moria its just that finding your way around Moria can be a much more daunting task than in any of the game before it and as such it can trivialize what you accomplish there (atleast how I felt).
I do wish they had a few more areas that encompassed the mid 50's but my experience is that you can get through the game spending minimal time in Moria if you chose too, you would just level much slower possibly.
Certainly though by sixty there is no reason you should feel like you have to stay and grind the quests in Moria, you can gain experience and have a pretty rewarding time levelling to end game just by going once through Lorien and Mirkwood without doing dailies at all if you didn't want to.
I think your complaints though are reasonable and can see how that could be ones opinion the thing about it though is my experience with Turbine is they are always improving all types of facets of the game and the biggest complaints are usually handled and this is something that I imagine that we will see improved upon at some point.
but yeah, to call this game Fantastic is like calling Twilight the Godfather of vampire movies....
Describes leveling in LotRO quite well.
WOW, just WOW.... my head exploded at your hypocricy. Replace OP with Rockgod and replace Rockgod with a world of warcraft fan. And this post can fit just perfectly in world of warcraft forums. Just shows that as long as you like what you are playing you can use same excuses in defense which you usually use to bash that other game you dislike.
Hush WoWfanboi. Lotro's leveling experience blows WoW out the water. You cant casually level in WoW because it sucks, your forced to get to max as fast as possible because item whoring is the only reason to play.
Lotro's leveling experience is so good its the closest mmorpgs have ever come to the quality of a single player rpg.
Cant say that about WoW, so shut.
Again lotro's leveling game is pure fucking epicness, While WoWs sucks ass and its only in the way of the true cheese wheel item grind.
Describes leveling in LotRO quite well.
And that's a good thing. Want a group focused game? Play a sandbox.Playing: Rift, LotRO
Waiting on: GW2, BP
if you are bored, try helping other players. it can be very rewarding.
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not in lotro
It is for me. I've helped and have been helped by players playing out in the game world. I have quite a large friends list due to the way I play. I would consider that rewarding. I guess its not considered rewarding if you dont get a epic item of pawnage for helping a person out these days...
To the people that think like that, you're the reason this genre mostly sucks fat donkey dick.
Playing: Rift, LotRO
Waiting on: GW2, BP
I am not a WOWFANBOI (what are you 12?) i am just a guy who plays every MMO out there and is not part of any elite camps. Lotro's leveling expeince is same as WOW. I have a Champion and Burgler sitting at max levels so its not that i haven't seen anything. And that was before when lower level quests and books were turned into solo quests. I can level solo in LOTRO without any problems i can do the same in WOW. Moreover, there is plenty of item whoring in LOTRO too. you are in denail if you think players are enjoying the leveling experince and don't care for the loot.
Moreover, don't try to force your gear menality on entire WOW player base. yeah we know you hate the game so to expect any logic from you in discussion is impossible.
However, i suggest learn to forumlate a sentence in proper manner, you sound like a whiny little teenage girl who got a hole in her pink dress. Seriously.
Who could have thought that WOW could bring super power like USA to its knees?
Originally posted by Arcken
To put it in a nutshell, our society is about to hit the fan, grades are dropping, obesity is going up,childhood the USA is going to lose its super power status before too long, but hey, as long as we have a cheap method to babysit our kids, all will be well no?
Im picking on WoW btw because its the beast that made all of this possible
How do you expect me to even comment on your posts when you say shit like this?
WoW has nothing, and i mean nothing to compare Lotro's wonderfully designed Epic ring quest chain to.
Lotro's main quest is so well done you could take it and put it into a normal high quality Rpg and people would play it.
The stroylines within the Zones are incredible all with their own stories and conflicts that the player most deal with.
The game pushes you to make the most of every zone through its deed system.
You have nothing like that in WoW, so please lets stop comparing the two.
Playing: Rift, LotRO
Waiting on: GW2, BP
Some really amazing argument skills there. You convinced us all..... no really!!!!
Bite Me
You can't because there is nothing to say. And i am not the one making comparisons here. I just had to point out your hypocricy. Playing a game which is the closest WOW clone and then flaming WOW whatever chance you get.
/facepalm
Who could have thought that WOW could bring super power like USA to its knees?
Originally posted by Arcken
To put it in a nutshell, our society is about to hit the fan, grades are dropping, obesity is going up,childhood the USA is going to lose its super power status before too long, but hey, as long as we have a cheap method to babysit our kids, all will be well no?
Im picking on WoW btw because its the beast that made all of this possible
It wasnt an attempt to debate the topic...
New to mmorpg.com? we dont discuss/debate here.
People here have their own opinions and ways set in stone. Its basically each side jumping up and down like a bunch of three year olds saying eachother is wrong.
Mmorpg.com forums are just mindless ranting by people with rose colored glasses or forum warriors with hidden agendas.
Playing: Rift, LotRO
Waiting on: GW2, BP
If you're going to attack someone like that, at least take the time to put together a sentence that doesn't have grammar errors and missing words
"Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb
Thank you for your concern but i would rather have a sentence with bad grammar then random insults and cussing.
Who could have thought that WOW could bring super power like USA to its knees?
Originally posted by Arcken
To put it in a nutshell, our society is about to hit the fan, grades are dropping, obesity is going up,childhood the USA is going to lose its super power status before too long, but hey, as long as we have a cheap method to babysit our kids, all will be well no?
Im picking on WoW btw because its the beast that made all of this possible
Oh here we go... so every quest focused & raid centric game is a wowclone?
How is lotro a wow clone... the classes are different, combat is different, the way the game handles its questing system is different, crafting is different ( the way its structured and integrated with craft guilds), endgame is totally different (solo, 3,6,12,24 man content), pvp is different, WoW has nothing like Lotro's Skirmish system, The deeds system is totally unique to WoW, Lotro has housing, social clothing tabs, even the way turbine handles its events is different.
OMG man you people drive me nuts with the WoWclone BS...
Playing: Rift, LotRO
Waiting on: GW2, BP
Don't look at me, i am just using your own logic here. Combat isn't different, questing isn't different, crafting isn't different, end game isn't different either, PVP sucks in LOTOR so you may call it different. I agree on housing, clothing and skirmish part though.
Now if i call EVE online a WOW clone, that would be a problem.
Who could have thought that WOW could bring super power like USA to its knees?
Originally posted by Arcken
To put it in a nutshell, our society is about to hit the fan, grades are dropping, obesity is going up,childhood the USA is going to lose its super power status before too long, but hey, as long as we have a cheap method to babysit our kids, all will be well no?
Im picking on WoW btw because its the beast that made all of this possible
So WoW has one giant quest line that takes the player from level 1 to max like Lotro? It integrates a Deed system into the entire experience that also ties into chracter progression besides just gaining XP?
IN WoW i have access to crafting guilds? a three pronged system that's dependent on other professions? I actually make worthwhile endgame items in WoW? Legendary items?
Combat is the same? So i have fellowship manuevers in WoW?
Playing: Rift, LotRO
Waiting on: GW2, BP
lol @ fellowship maneuvers, that's the best you can come up with?
But I agree with you on the LoTRO = Best single player LoTR RPG experience.
Hopefully, War In The North takes that title when it releases. If you see Snowblind Studios track record, we could have a gem of an Action-RPG here. Oh and it has 3 man co-op from start to finish..that's already more group quests that LoTRO xD