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Selling current computer to get new computer advice noW! :D
So this is my specs on my computer right now which i bought back in 08' time to upgrade!
case - RAIDMAX SMILODON Extreme Black
Proc - Intel Q6600 2.4ghz quad core/ stock fan
Mobo - ASUS P5N-D LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 750i
Video card - Geforce gtx 460 video card ( which im keepin for my new computer)
Ram - 3gb DDR2 800
Hard Drive - 320gb hard drive
Dvd burner - lightscribe something
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Now this is the build that i picked out in like an hour of looking lol so i need some advice on my gear keep in mind this build will have a 1tb hard drive and a geforce gtx 460 card in it thats why theres no hard drive or video card. Im also going for AMD cuz im going for the cheapenss. Im just hoping this is better than my current build and even worth upgrading.
So my limit on all that stuff is $500-600 so im trying to find the best possible rig thats better than mine for the price. Im not willing to go over that. Im going AMD cuz its cheap but if theres a intel proc thats better and cheaper ill go intel but it depends, i just cant find a case thats cheap and has a lot of space
Case - cant find a decent one for a good price :0
Proc - AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz
Mobo - ASUS M4A88TD-V
PS - CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W
Ram - G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333
CD Drive - Sony Optiarc Black 18X DVD-ROM 48X
Thx guys!
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Looks good, i would buy a bigger PSU tough, atleast 750W.
Currently Playing Path of Exile
I'd suggest the Antec 1200 case, incredible roomy, excellent air flow, though they can be a bit pricey, however if you're patient you may be able to get one for under $100 on eBay. {like I did} Or even try one of the smaller Antec cases 300 or 900.
Oh, and that CPU & MB you have picked out is what I had prior to my switching to Intel earlier last year. Very good parts and performance.
For under $500 That VERY doable.
MSI AM3 NVIDIA nForce ATX AMD Motherboard NF750-G55
This bourd will let you use AMD procs with Nvidia SLI. Its a great bourd. I've built 3 rigs all with this bourd. No problems to far. Just remember to upgrade your bios with a flash drive. :P
Only two realy things I notice.
1. Yes upgrade your Power Supply (psu) 750 is good because unless your running a rendering rig 750-800 is all you ever need. 1000+ is over kill unless your running a 3-4 gpu system. :P
2. UPGRADE YOUR PROCESSOR FAN. NEVER EVER in over 9000 years. Use a Stock heat sink for a proc. Zaleman makes a great 120mm fan. But its a tight fit for most cases. (anything smaller then a full tower.)
Please note. IF you want to run two GPU's you HAVE to have a mobo that will doing. Most Intell's won't run two radeon and most Amd's won't run two Nvidia. Outside of the MSI bourd I mentioned.
Case: In all honestly Antec is not the most amazing contructed case's.
For $165 you can get yourself a stainless steel server case with more air flow then the 1200.
If you want to save a buck you can get the Antec 900 for $80-$99 Its not bad. But not the best. I use an Antec 900. Don't get me wrong its decent. But there are better.
CPU: Nothing wrong with a quad core. In all honestly most games don't even use two cores still.
RAM:G. Skill is price but works, Its easy to overclock too. If you don't want to both overclocking I'd say go with Patriot ram. Its cheaper. but you can't overclock it at all. But just as good at G.Skill.
Enjoy and good luck. Need any help feel free to PM me. I've been building rigs since 1995. Its alot easier now. :P
His PSU is more than enough for those specs. He would only ever need more if he were to SLI them. The GTX 460's are much easier to power than its' higher tier parts.
Alright ill check out the case
but is the CPU and MB gooD? better than my current? i just want to see an extreme difference in game play when i use it, but does intel have any cpu's that are the same price that might be better?
EDIT: really tho the computer is around 750-800 becuase i have the gtx 460 and my 1tb hard drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146067
This puts that 1200 to shame. Cord Management is AMAZING in this case. Plus its cheaper. Larger, Stainless steel ( better heat managment),
I just picked up this case for $60, I would recommend another 2 Case Fans to go with it:
COOLER MASTER HAF 912 RC-912-KKN1 Black SECC/ ABS Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171053
And I got this Power Supply to go along with it for $80........( $100 with a $20 Rebate)....
COOLER MASTER GX Series RS750-ACAAE3-US 750W ATX12V v2.31 SLI Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171053
Mid tower case with an AMD. That could cause some heat issues. We are talking about a gaming rig. Nice Snag on the power supply. But the tower for lack of a better work. Is not adequate.
I have the AMD 965 and it's an amazing chip. I love the performance of it, and you don't have to pay the ridiculous price of a comparable Intel chip.
I have a rather comparable system to your own:
AMD Phenom II X4 965 black
GTX460 (Galaxy's 1Gb w/ detachable fan)
Gigabyte 770 mobo
8gb patriot
5 120mm fans
NZXT Lexus S case
Total cost: ~$700 and I run ALL games at max performance > 30 fps
what about this case?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147144
BTW: black check ur pms
A 650 watt PSU is more then enough unless you plan to go SLI. If you do plan do go SLI that might not be the best mobo since the second pci express slot only runs in x4 mode.
Looks fine, a lot of room in it and 3 fans, should be fine for both this and next computer you build.
Many people make the mistake of getting a small box, they overheat a lot easier than a larger one.
I have a coolermaster haf 932, EXELENT TOWER lots of room, fully fits everythign i have and has room for more. exelent airflow, many many fans.
can keep my computer on all the time wihtout ever having a heat problem, even in the summer when it got over 100 degrees in my old appartment. NO heat issues
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119160
Looks fine enough. The motherboard is not that great, I don't like the boards with on board GFX chips.
Here is a cheaper one that is at least as good. Saves you 30 bucks. The rest looks fine to me.
1 more thing I can recommend you is Corsairs H50 liquid cooling system. It will cost you 80 bucks but it really keeps the heat down. It's a closed system so no leaking, a lot more silent than a CPU fan. Installing it took me 30 minutes the first time. Great if you plan to overclock or just want to keep the CPU heat down.
Good luck with it anyways.
Well, if you were going to push the 600$ limit that would leave you with about 120.00$, since this computer seems to be a slop up of what you can grap cheap now, i would say get a decent case for around 50-70$. And use the rest of that money to upgrade your motherboard so you can ad more to it later. Up to you however. Personaly i wouldent get an amazing case with the setup your going with. Decent for your price thoe
Uhm, hold up. I'm a big AMD fan for budget computers but the new Intel i5's are tremendous. At the prices you're looking to spend you are much better off dropping the RAM down to 4GB, spending $30 from that to get an i5-2400 @ $194 (or i5-2500k if you want to OC beyond the built in turbo clock) and an equivalent Socket 1155 motherboard.
AMD only really makes sense below like $130 now with the new i3 and i5 CPUs priced the way they are.
Here is an internal view of my 1200 to show ya how roomy it is, has tons of air flow, temps dropped a few more when I added those electrial covers over the wires. {And yeah I do regularly air-dust my PC, the camera really makes the remnants stand out.} I don't know much about those other cases that have been linked by others, but I'm loving the sleek/black look of this case and the blue lights really make it stand out in a dark room.
As far as a cheaper Intel CPU and MB go, that I really can't say as I've only been with Intel for about 4 months and it took me some time to pick out my parts ~ the CPU: i7 K875 2.93 was $330, MB P55 FTW 200 was $250 are prolly way above your price range. I also have 8gb A-DATA 1600 RAM and the GTX 570 Superclocked ~ {well I had to send it in on an RMA this week, hopefully will have it back by end of next...'sob}
Well hey i took ur advice man i would think the new proc are way better than the one i picked out now right?? its the same price range to so thats pretty awesome. Well this is my setup right now as i changed the mobo and proc and ram to 4gbz. IS this overall better than my last setup?> but this is a big upgrade from my current computer right?
EDIT: also ive never been the type of person who overclockes...so i picked the i5-2400, which my current proc i only overclocked like once or twice to 2.8ghz but never did it again so that proc is good for non over clockers?
Case - Rosewill DESTROYER
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147144
Proc - intel core i5-2400 sandy bridge 3.1ghz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074
Mobo - Asus p8p67 lga 1155 intel p67
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131681
PS - CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005
Ram - G. Skill ripjaws series 4gb
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231303
CD Drive - Sony Optiarc Black 18X DVD-ROM 48X
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827131061
TOTAL: $593.08
The mobo has no reviews tho u think i should still get it?
The sandy bridge setup is pretty good if i do say so myself
I'd advise against upgrading from a Core 2 Quad to a Phenom II. It just isn't a big enough upgrade to justify the cost. Intel's new Sandy Bridge processors would probably be twice as big of an upgrade for you. You're looking at a Core i5 2400, but I'd pay the extra $15 to get a Core i5 2500 instead:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115073
You've got the right idea on a motherboard for it. You want an LGA 1155 processor socket and a P67 chipset. The motherboard you picked would be nice. This one would be about equivalent:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128462
Either of those would have all the features you're likely to want, and be able to handle a moderate overclock if you decide to go that route. If you want to save some money on the motherboard, this one would be good enough, but overclocking would pretty much be out of the question:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128460
Asus' low end motherboard (P8P67 LX) doesn't seem to be up yet. The reason that the Sandy Bridge processors and motherboards don't have any reviews yet is that they just went on sale today. Asus and Gigabyte are good brands, so the motherboards should be fine.
"Looks good, i would buy a bigger PSU tough, atleast 750W."
No. The original Phenom II system would maybe pull 300 W at peak load. The Sandy Bridge system would probably pull less yet. A good quality 650 W power supply has plenty of power for that. The Corsair TX650 is a nice choice if you don't mind messing with mail-in rebates. If you'd rather skip the rebate, you could try this instead:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151094
Same price "after rebate", but without the need to do a rebate. It's a little better quality, but lower wattage.
"UPGRADE YOUR PROCESSOR FAN. NEVER EVER in over 9000 years. Use a Stock heat sink for a proc."
The Phenom II Black Edition processors come with a pretty nice stock heatsink. It's not the sort of thing that you'd want to use for a massive overclock, but at stock speeds, it's plenty good enough.
Sandy Bridge processors don't come with a very good stock heatsink, though. It can more or less handle the processor at stock speeds, but overclocking with the stock heatsink is pretty much out. The original poster says he's not overclocking, so it's debateable whether or not to get a better heatsink.
"For $165 you can get yourself a stainless steel server case with more air flow then the 1200. "
Who needs to spend $165 for a case? Certainly not someone with "only" one video card. The Rosewill Destroyer should be adequate. You don't need a full tower to dissipate 200 W under typical gaming load.
"COOLER MASTER GX Series RS750-ACAAE3-US 750W ATX12V v2.31 SLI Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE"
Calling that cheap junk overstates it somewhat, but it's not a good power supply. Hard OCP rates it a "fail" for multiple independent reasons:
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/11/22/cooler_master_gx_650w_power_supply_review/9
"1 more thing I can recommend you is Corsairs H50 liquid cooling system. It will cost you 80 bucks but it really keeps the heat down."
Massively overkill, especially for someone who isn't overclocking. I can understand spending $30-$40 on an aftermarket heatsink and fan, but not $80. I'd be skittish about going for liquid cooling when you can get air cooling that is just as effective for cheaper.
"the CPU: i7 K875 2.93 was $330, MB P55 FTW 200 was $250 are prolly way above your price range."
And thoroughly obsolete by now. The Core i5 2500 and Asus P8P67 together are a lot better than that, and a lot cheaper, too.
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You don't really need 8 GB of memory, either. If you go with 4 GB, I'd take something cheaper than what you've picked out. Even if you want to stay with G.Skill, the lower stock voltage makes this arguably better than what you picked out, in addition to significantly cheaper:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231193
"CD Drive - Sony Optiarc Black 18X DVD-ROM 48X"
No, that's an IDE model. SATA is the modern standard. That can't write, either. Try this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151188
Substantially better, and cheaper, too. The IDE models are more expensive because they're very low volume, now that the only people who buy them are those with very old machines that don't support SATA. Well, that and people who are confused about what to get.
Hello there Quiz i was waiting for ur reply
but alright so u think i should go with the sandy bridge then? i swapped out the 2400 and put the 2500 instead its worth the extra $15 totally...so about the mobo idk u think i should just stay with the asus one? just in case in the future i do overclock? btw do u have skype, steam, or anything else i could talk to u over about cuz i know ur the guy with all the info here 
If this hasnt been mentioned already, check out the microcenter bundles with the new i5 processors. The prices are amazing if you have a microcenter around.
edit: in store only the ad says so that leaves a lot of people out
That might allow you to bump up to a 2600 and/or one of the unlocked processors.
link:
http://l2.microcentermail.com/C2L/er.aspx?k=nX9AweyGi0wYCWMlpQ3ZhCc8B7S8U5Fk44igSb6oTNUyEzkZUitoZg$$
Note the prices they show, for some inexplicable reason are before the instant rebate... not a mail in rebate mind you.
Good luck. I am still working on my 3 plus year old e6750 c2d and 8800GT.
so wait is this like a online store or a store u have to go to? cuz we dont have any micro centers were i live lol
Im in the process of doing the same exact thing... Upgraded everything in my computer to it's maximum potential within affordable means anyhow. Now this mother board is holding me back, so I want to upgrade to an am3 mother board then buy new am3 CPU (which wouldn't be much different from my current 940 phen II quad 3ghz) unfortunately I didnt think ahead when I bought this cpu and I bought one that wont go with the new mother board.
Meh, anyhow I'm selling a few parts I have lying around to come up with the extra money I may need to buy these parts to go with the new mobo.
"When it comes to GW2 any game is fair game"
There's no sense in upgrading from a Phenom II to a slightly faster Phenom II. Either upgrade to Sandy Bridge or don't upgrade--and if you've already got a 3 GHz Phenom II, then I'd lean toward the latter.
A Phenom II X4 940 is Socket AM2+, and is an alternative version of the Phenom II built to fit an old processor socket.