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poor performance is a turnoff

TorgozoTorgozo Member Posts: 25

I'm sorry, I know its new, but the game just doesn't look good enough to warrant such poor performance.  I can max every single other MMO out there but right now, on my Phenom II x4 / 5870 I'm getting worse performance than Crysis.  To me, that's a dealbreaker.  Optimize the engine or don't release the game, there's no way the slightly above average graphics of Rift should be taxing my system like they are.  

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  • SwaneaSwanea Member UncommonPosts: 2,401

    Weird, even with a 4k++ ping and TOO many people in the starter areas, my fps was over 40.

     

    Maybe you should check out the forums for tech help or something?

  • KruulKruul Member UncommonPosts: 482

    I'm getting 70ish FPS and it looks great / runs great. You might need to tweak some things in advanced graphics if default is to stressful on your system

  • skoupidiskoupidi Member UncommonPosts: 244

    Originally posted by Swanea

    Weird, even with a 4k++ ping and TOO many people in the starter areas, my fps was over 40.

     

    Maybe you should check out the forums for tech help or something?

    Do you know what the term optimization means? 

  • HokieHokie Member UncommonPosts: 1,063

    Originally posted by Torgozo

    I'm sorry, I know its new, but the game just doesn't look good enough to warrant such poor performance.  I can max every single other MMO out there but right now, on my Phenom II x4 / 5870 I'm getting worse performance than Crysis.  To me, that's a dealbreaker.  Optimize the engine or don't release the game, there's no way the slightly above average graphics of Rift should be taxing my system like they are.  

    I'm sure part of what they're doing is optimizing the graphics.

    Remember- It still is beta.

    Bug report it along with youre system specs, when you notice the worst hit on your video card, was there a lot of people, effects, during certain animations.

     

    Remember- It still is beta.

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  • sungodrasungodra Member Posts: 1,376

    Actually the reason why the performance was so bad today , was because of a stress test. The maxed out the servers packed them up and opened a mess load of rifts everywhere so they could see how the servers would handle that many people and that many rifts at one time.

     

    This didn't happen for the last beta , everything was running smooth..  It's just normal stress testing in preperation for release day which is soon coming.

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  • metroiconmetroicon Member Posts: 5

    Originally posted by Torgozo

    I'm sorry, I know its new, but the game just doesn't look good enough to warrant such poor performance.  I can max every single other MMO out there but right now, on my Phenom II x4 / 5870 I'm getting worse performance than Crysis.  To me, that's a dealbreaker.  Optimize the engine or don't release the game, there's no way the slightly above average graphics of Rift should be taxing my system like they are.  

    I have a simple fix for that....http://www.nvidia.com/object/product-geforce-gtx-580-us.html

    I had that same issue and that fixed it perfectly. 

  • karmathkarmath Member UncommonPosts: 904

    Sadly, the engine is a tweaked version of  the Warhammer engine developed by people who made Warhammer. It's gonna lag regardless of how much hardware you throw at it.

     

    I hope I'm wrong, but the precedent is hard to ignore.

  • hauj0bbhauj0bb Member Posts: 153

    Originally posted by Torgozo

    I'm sorry, I know its new, but the game just doesn't look good enough to warrant such poor performance.  I can max every single other MMO out there but right now, on my Phenom II x4 / 5870 I'm getting worse performance than Crysis.  To me, that's a dealbreaker.  Optimize the engine or don't release the game, there's no way the slightly above average graphics of Rift should be taxing my system like they are.  

    Something is wrong with your machine then. I run this game on high at 32-36 FPS using a intel Q8300 2.5ghz quad, 4gb of ddr2 800 and a 8800gt 512mb card. Parts in my machine (gfx/ram) are 3 years old or more.

  • knyghttearerknyghttearer Member Posts: 124

    I AM HAVEING ABSOLUTELY NO ISSUES RUNNING THE GAME OTHER THEN BEING BUMP FOR SERVER TWEAKS

  • IkonicIkonic Member UncommonPosts: 310

    Originally posted by karmath

    Sadly, the engine is a tweaked version of  the Warhammer engine developed by people who made Warhammer. It's gonna lag regardless of how much hardware you throw at it.

     

    I hope I'm wrong, but the precedent is hard to ignore.

    EA Mythic did not make Gamebryo

  • pepcfreakpepcfreak Member UncommonPosts: 106

    Originally posted by karmath

    Sadly, the engine is a tweaked version of  the Warhammer engine developed by people who made Warhammer. It's gonna lag regardless of how much hardware you throw at it.

     

    I hope I'm wrong, but the precedent is hard to ignore.

    I have no problems at all with performance. In warhammer or this game.

  • marz.at.playmarz.at.play Member UncommonPosts: 912

    Originally posted by sungodra

    Actually the reason why the performance was so bad today , was because of a stress test. The maxed out the servers packed them up and opened a mess load of rifts everywhere so they could see how the servers would handle that many people and that many rifts at one time.

     

    This didn't happen for the last beta , everything was running smooth..  It's just normal stress testing in preperation for release day which is soon coming.

    What he said!

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  • karmathkarmath Member UncommonPosts: 904

    Originally posted by Ikonic

    Originally posted by karmath

    Sadly, the engine is a tweaked version of  the Warhammer engine developed by people who made Warhammer. It's gonna lag regardless of how much hardware you throw at it.

     

    I hope I'm wrong, but the precedent is hard to ignore.

    EA Mythic did not make Gamebryo

     

    I didnt say that, I said its the same engine being used by the same people. In the case of warhammer, the game itself was fun but it lagged horribly.

  • karmathkarmath Member UncommonPosts: 904

    Originally posted by pepcfreak

    Originally posted by karmath

    Sadly, the engine is a tweaked version of  the Warhammer engine developed by people who made Warhammer. It's gonna lag regardless of how much hardware you throw at it.

     

    I hope I'm wrong, but the precedent is hard to ignore.

    I have no problems at all with performance. In warhammer or this game.

    I highly doubt that. The developers even admitted to it several times. Doing fortresses meant 5 fps and 5k+ ping, thats why they took them out of the game completely and permanently.

  • clankyaspclankyasp Member Posts: 213

    my performance is alright except during rift raid with too many players around:/ lag spikes badly.where i dont have the lag spike issue when 25 raid or even wintergrasp in wow.

  • SoraksisSoraksis Member UncommonPosts: 294

    Originally posted by karmath

    Sadly, the engine is a tweaked version of  the Warhammer engine developed by people who made Warhammer. It's gonna lag regardless of how much hardware you throw at it.

     

    I hope I'm wrong, but the precedent is hard to ignore.

    This has nothing to do with the engin at all.  If you were around for the first beta's you would know how smooth this thing can run.  That being said they only had around 50k max by the end of beta 4 spread out over 16 servers or so between EU and US. Now they have all the pre-orders and all the mass VIP code grabers the population has exploded.  I read a few days ago something about steam saying nearly 300k pre orders for Rift over the past couple of weeks.  Now add that to Trions sales, Gamestop sales,  Amazon sales and D2D.  This is and was a planned stress test,  and I for one am thankful they are doing it now rather than wait till a week or two before release and botch it.  And givin what I have seen since the start I have no doubt in my mind they will get this fixed in no time,  as they have with everything else in the past.  As a matter of fact servers where just broght down a little bit ago for a server stability patch.  Just give it a day or two and then seen how things are running,  thats when judgement should be passed.   Not just a few hours after servers open on the first Stress Test day.

  • karmathkarmath Member UncommonPosts: 904

    Originally posted by Soraksis

    Originally posted by karmath

    Sadly, the engine is a tweaked version of  the Warhammer engine developed by people who made Warhammer. It's gonna lag regardless of how much hardware you throw at it.

     

    I hope I'm wrong, but the precedent is hard to ignore.

    This has nothing to do with the engin at all.  If you were around for the first beta's you would know how smooth this thing can run.  That being said they only had around 50k max by the end of beta 4 spread out over 16 servers or so between EU and US. Now they have all the pre-orders and all the mass VIP code grabers the population has exploded.  I read a few days ago something about steam saying nearly 300k pre orders for Rift over the past couple of weeks.  Now add that to Trions sales, Gamestop sales,  Amazon sales and D2D.  This is and was a planned stress test,  and I for one am thankful they are doing it now rather than wait till a week or two before release and botch it.  And givin what I have seen since the start I have no doubt in my mind they will get this fixed in no time,  as they have with everything else in the past.  As a matter of fact servers where just broght down a little bit ago for a server stability patch.  Just give it a day or two and then seen how things are running,  thats when judgement should be passed.   Not just a few hours after servers open on the first Stress Test day.

    We were told the exact same thing in the Warhammer beta. I realy hope they do pull it off, but its pretty much deja'vu at this point.

  • pepcfreakpepcfreak Member UncommonPosts: 106

    Originally posted by karmath

    Originally posted by pepcfreak


    Originally posted by karmath

    Sadly, the engine is a tweaked version of  the Warhammer engine developed by people who made Warhammer. It's gonna lag regardless of how much hardware you throw at it.

     

    I hope I'm wrong, but the precedent is hard to ignore.

    I have no problems at all with performance. In warhammer or this game.

    I highly doubt that. The developers even admitted to it several times. Doing fortresses meant 5 fps and 5k+ ping, thats why they took them out of the game completely and permanently.

    With the exception of fortresses you are right. That said, overall i dont get bad performance.

  • therain93therain93 Member UncommonPosts: 2,039

    Originally posted by hauj0bb

    Originally posted by Torgozo

    I'm sorry, I know its new, but the game just doesn't look good enough to warrant such poor performance.  I can max every single other MMO out there but right now, on my Phenom II x4 / 5870 I'm getting worse performance than Crysis.  To me, that's a dealbreaker.  Optimize the engine or don't release the game, there's no way the slightly above average graphics of Rift should be taxing my system like they are.  

    Something is wrong with your machine then. I run this game on high at 32-36 FPS using a intel Q8300 2.5ghz quad, 4gb of ddr2 800 and a 8800gt 512mb card. Parts in my machine (gfx/ram) are 3 years old or more.

     I'm running a similar older rig, dell xps410 with an evga nvidia 8800gt SSC (1gb RAM), getting 25 FPS on ultra settings.  No complaints so far in my first hour.

  • karmathkarmath Member UncommonPosts: 904

    Originally posted by therain93

    Originally posted by hauj0bb


    Originally posted by Torgozo

    I'm sorry, I know its new, but the game just doesn't look good enough to warrant such poor performance.  I can max every single other MMO out there but right now, on my Phenom II x4 / 5870 I'm getting worse performance than Crysis.  To me, that's a dealbreaker.  Optimize the engine or don't release the game, there's no way the slightly above average graphics of Rift should be taxing my system like they are.  

    Something is wrong with your machine then. I run this game on high at 32-36 FPS using a intel Q8300 2.5ghz quad, 4gb of ddr2 800 and a 8800gt 512mb card. Parts in my machine (gfx/ram) are 3 years old or more.

     I'm running a similar older rig, dell xps410 with an evga nvidia 8800gt SSC (1gb RAM), getting 25 FPS on ultra settings.  No complaints so far in my first hour.

     

    You realize 25 frames is horrible right?

  • thecipherthecipher Member UncommonPosts: 146

    I have to agree with most of the sentiments here. This isn't a problem with the engine at all. I'm running on maxed settings with no fps issues at all.

     

    What I do have is lag issues (mainly position lag and rubberbanding), but that is tied to the servers and their architecture, rather than the engine itself. Also, as mentioned several times already, beta 5 is a stress test, so all of this is to be expected. But with two fixes being rolled out today already, I'm pretty confident that Trion will get a handle on things before the end of this beta....

     

    ...and that's all that really matters, isn't it? Beta, the way Trion is running it, is an actual, old-school beta where they are actually testing stuff. It's not a "try-before-you-buy" beta. Characters are getting wiped for retail, so the main goal here is to help Trion get their game and servers ready for when they launch. If they can get the lag issues fixed for retail, then I'm happy.

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  • therain93therain93 Member UncommonPosts: 2,039

    Originally posted by karmath

    Originally posted by therain93

    Originally posted by hauj0bb

    Originally posted by Torgozo

    I'm sorry, I know its new, but the game just doesn't look good enough to warrant such poor performance.  I can max every single other MMO out there but right now, on my Phenom II x4 / 5870 I'm getting worse performance than Crysis.  To me, that's a dealbreaker.  Optimize the engine or don't release the game, there's no way the slightly above average graphics of Rift should be taxing my system like they are.  

    Something is wrong with your machine then. I run this game on high at 32-36 FPS using a intel Q8300 2.5ghz quad, 4gb of ddr2 800 and a 8800gt 512mb card. Parts in my machine (gfx/ram) are 3 years old or more.

     I'm running a similar older rig, dell xps410 with an evga nvidia 8800gt SSC (1gb RAM), getting 25 FPS on ultra settings.  No complaints so far in my first hour.

     

    You realize 25 frames is horrible right?

     you realize standard smooth animation is 30 frames per second, right?

  • thecipherthecipher Member UncommonPosts: 146

    Originally posted by karmath

    Originally posted by therain93


    Originally posted by hauj0bb


    Originally posted by Torgozo

    I'm sorry, I know its new, but the game just doesn't look good enough to warrant such poor performance.  I can max every single other MMO out there but right now, on my Phenom II x4 / 5870 I'm getting worse performance than Crysis.  To me, that's a dealbreaker.  Optimize the engine or don't release the game, there's no way the slightly above average graphics of Rift should be taxing my system like they are.  

    Something is wrong with your machine then. I run this game on high at 32-36 FPS using a intel Q8300 2.5ghz quad, 4gb of ddr2 800 and a 8800gt 512mb card. Parts in my machine (gfx/ram) are 3 years old or more.

     I'm running a similar older rig, dell xps410 with an evga nvidia 8800gt SSC (1gb RAM), getting 25 FPS on ultra settings.  No complaints so far in my first hour.

     

    You realize 25 frames is horrible right?

    Horrible, perhaps. Playable, definitely, and that's what matters IMO.

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  • clankyaspclankyasp Member Posts: 213

    Originally posted by therain93

    Originally posted by hauj0bb


    Originally posted by Torgozo

    I'm sorry, I know its new, but the game just doesn't look good enough to warrant such poor performance.  I can max every single other MMO out there but right now, on my Phenom II x4 / 5870 I'm getting worse performance than Crysis.  To me, that's a dealbreaker.  Optimize the engine or don't release the game, there's no way the slightly above average graphics of Rift should be taxing my system like they are.  

    Something is wrong with your machine then. I run this game on high at 32-36 FPS using a intel Q8300 2.5ghz quad, 4gb of ddr2 800 and a 8800gt 512mb card. Parts in my machine (gfx/ram) are 3 years old or more.

     I'm running a similar older rig, dell xps410 with an evga nvidia 8800gt SSC (1gb RAM), getting 25 FPS on ultra settings.  No complaints so far in my first hour.

    i doubt you getting 25fps with that machine, pics or didnt happen :)

  • SoraksisSoraksis Member UncommonPosts: 294

    Originally posted by karmath

    Originally posted by Soraksis


    Originally posted by karmath

    Sadly, the engine is a tweaked version of  the Warhammer engine developed by people who made Warhammer. It's gonna lag regardless of how much hardware you throw at it.

     

    I hope I'm wrong, but the precedent is hard to ignore.

    This has nothing to do with the engin at all.  If you were around for the first beta's you would know how smooth this thing can run.  That being said they only had around 50k max by the end of beta 4 spread out over 16 servers or so between EU and US. Now they have all the pre-orders and all the mass VIP code grabers the population has exploded.  I read a few days ago something about steam saying nearly 300k pre orders for Rift over the past couple of weeks.  Now add that to Trions sales, Gamestop sales,  Amazon sales and D2D.  This is and was a planned stress test,  and I for one am thankful they are doing it now rather than wait till a week or two before release and botch it.  And givin what I have seen since the start I have no doubt in my mind they will get this fixed in no time,  as they have with everything else in the past.  As a matter of fact servers where just broght down a little bit ago for a server stability patch.  Just give it a day or two and then seen how things are running,  thats when judgement should be passed.   Not just a few hours after servers open on the first Stress Test day.

    We were told the exact same thing in the Warhammer beta. I realy hope they do pull it off, but its pretty much deja'vu at this point.

    Again not at all.  I was in WAR's beta as well and they never did a real stress test before launch.  I dont think they ever got more than 150k people playing before they released.   Then come launch day no stress test at all to speak of and they crash and burn for a week before they can figure it out.  Trion is doing it an entire month before release with mass numbers to aviod just such an occurance.   Trion is NOT EA/Mythic,  and again this lag is not an engine problem its a server load issue that is being adressed already.  As stated in other posts I run with avg 40fps or so but at times my MS spikes out to 10k or so  thats server issues there, not game code or engine errors.

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