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That never stopped gankfest whores before.
No I'm not purchasing this game yet.
I found this topic to be quite interesting though.
actualy yoru wrong. forum polls never show very good percentage of the pop. if u read the forms look at join dates 99% of those hardcore pvpers have joined xyson in the last month -2 weeks. right now the gm people are not doing much on the greifers due to they waiting for the final whipe before they start policing, but they have already banned people for varous things such as harressing people and other stuff like exploiting the totem pole bug from lag.
the lead dev already said greifing wont be allowed in any form. im not a big pvper yet i will play xyson after seeing how good the devs are. after the free time is up most of the hardcore pvpers will go back to their darkfail and mo finding out that here they cant come and ruin others game expernce without consequences.
I dont recall saying you had to
Marcus, on the features page, which goes on for about 6 or 7 screens, could you point out the lines that indicate to you this is a FFA PVP game?
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Honestly, i dont have time...
My impression of a FFA PvP, is on which you can attack anyone at anytime, if you desire, unless they are in a safe zone...
correct me if i'm wrong please, which i may could be.
Its not even a feature on the feature page.
Look, because a game contains 1 feature doesnt mean the game is that 'meta-type' game.
Xyson is not a berry picking game anymore than its a woodchooping game any more than its an FFA PVP game.
Simeply because some people will do a text search on a game looking for FFA PVP and not look at any other feature doesnt mean that the game is 'a FFA PVP game' anymore than its a game for tailoring.
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Without PvP, the game seems silly. Plus the fact you can turn on "Don't PvP me" is somewhat disheartening. Let's build walls and armor and fortifications and weapons for... oh, nevermind.
He who keeps his cool best wins.
I'm sorry to hear you are so pressed for time. It's just that you seem so mindboggled by how people who don't care for FFA PVP could have bought or would like to buy the game that I myself was curious what you saw on their site that you felt should have made it obvious to others this was a FFA PVP game.
"I find it sort of hard to believe that theres a whole lot of folks who don't want any part of PvP, buying a FFA PvP game, but thats just me.." - Marcus-
Your replies to people regarding the FFA PVP has me wishing you had a few moments to read the Features page, as I'm interested in hearing if you are given the impression of a co-op world-building sandbox or a FFA PVP game from what is presented.
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
"Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
Look, i understand theres a lot more to do in the game than PvP, its one of the reasons i have it on my comp.
When people decide to purchase a game, i would think one of the things they look for is, if it has PvP as that is a pretty big aspect of any MMO...
I would find it a little odd (not impossible mind you), if there was a whole lot of people, who dont enjoy PvP, and dont want it a part of their game, joining a game with the type PvP this game has implemented....
But that is my question. Can you link or quote to where they describe the type of PVP this game has implemented?
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
"Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
Combat permissions in tribe zones based on tribal settings.
This feature seems to indicate that a tribe could decide that there be no PvP in their zone.
Yeap. That and the line next to it are both very vague regarding the PVP. Actually "PVP" and "Player vs Player" are two terms that never appear anywhere in the feature lsit at all.
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
"Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
As it turns out FFA pvp is not even a feature listed on the game feature list so its fair to say for all intents and purposes its not an FFA pvp game anymore than WoW is a crafting game so we can move on now, I dont care much for pvp but I will say that feature is something I rarely take into consideration when purchasing a game anyway.
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I looked quickly, and saw nothing, on your link
so i guess there is no PvP in this game, my mistake......
Yes, for all intents and purposes lets go with that.
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True. But this also applies to the gankers, which is where death penalties break down. It pretty much assures that they will return to do it all again because DP is low price to pay if it allows you to bring misery to others. In a permadeath situation, eventually they will be irrevocably killed, and then have to start over from scratch. The world at large will be a tougher place to survive in if all you want to do is gank because while you're continually rerolling your characters, your base of potential victims is skilling up and getting stronger.
Marauder groups face the same problem. Membership is finite they'll face the problem of their members constantly rerolling, making them weaker as time goes on, while settlements get stronger and better defended. Over time, the same mechanics that exist in reality will exert themselves to keep them in check.
It will tick off people until an equilibrium is reached, but then it's just a matter of never getting lazy or sloppy to keep the gankers on the fringes of society without ever having to implement a single anti-ganking rule.
I've never been a fan of permadeath, personally. But I'm also not a fan of FFA PvP. In fact, I loathe both. It's ironic then, that my two least favorite concepts of online games actually must be combined (IMO) for either to work properly, and actually appeal to me. But as is often the case, I'm probably a minority of one.
If I wanted a game with no sense of risk and no ability to gank other players, I'd go to Club Penguin. What fun is building a city, developing new weapons and armor, and then having absolutely nothing to use it for? Okay, so you want to feel like a settler in a new land, you want to focus on endlessly grinding your crafting skills and building a wall around your virtual territory. Good for you. But even the Wild West had outlaws, and without any open PvP mechanic the game is just a shallow, team based version of Sim City.
sounds good, but you may want to let this guy know too ; )
http://www.xsyon.com/forum/showthread.php/3909-Hi-I-m-your-not-so-friend-that-___
Crazy people, even the developer when he starts talking about pvp
bottom line, the game barely has combat engine anyway and for pvp Darkfall is MUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCHHHHHHHH better anyway.
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http://www.xsyon.com/forum/showthread.php/32-Conflict-Death-Consequences-and-Decisions
I'll post this thread again, Jooky explains death consequences there.
He mentions stat and skill loss at death. Skills are fairly easy to gain but stats are not.
This thread started off roughly, and the title encourages it. Going to lock this. If you'd like to continue discussion about PvP, please do so in another thread, but remember to keep it civil and in accordance with our RoC. Thanks.
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