yes cheats happen in games, wow it was glider i believe. but the only thing you could really cheat at in wow was lag running for PvP. very easy to catch and to report. you can goto www.************.com right now and get the hack exploit for darkfall that will pretty much make you unstopable.
your right that every game has cheaters/exploiters. Pretty much any FPS will have an aimbot that really makes things unfair.
Aimbot?
haha you obviously know nothing about Darkfall.
You cannot get hacks anymore. Those videos are all ancient and even back when they existed I have only seen someone hack like a total of 3 times (all banned pretty fast). The last time that I have even heard anyone mention even someone on a trial account use any hack was well over a year ago.
Aimbot is totally worthless because you cannot sprint-strafe. if someone tried using an aimbot they would be a sitting duck uneable to dodge effectively or do most of the strategies.
I feel like the only person who knows anything about the game who posted in this thread besides just a couple others.
It seems that you guys are pretty far off. You don't need everyskill. Far from. I have just used archery and melee since I started playing and do fine. Even if I played a mage who had everything, I would not be able to bind every skill/spell to a key on my keyboard (not enough keys, even with macros) and there is no way in hell that I am going to last long enough in a fight to be able to cast 1/10th of the spells out there . ..
Everyone wants witchesbrew, some bunny-hopping spells, a blind, and conversion spells. Thats it. Thats all you NEED. Everything else is just fluff and stuff to help certain situations but not needed.
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I played this game @ release and a few times in the last few years resubbing to see if it got better. The biggest problem is there is no skill cap because the majority of the competitive players never stop grinding skills so what it takes to be truely competitive grows and grows. People say oh you only need rank 50 and 2 weapon masterys, but thats a load of bull. Thats just something they heard from someone else and repeat it like rhetoric to get more people to play...
You need 2 weapon skills with masterys, fairly inflated stats since your starting stats will have a huge despairty (but don't expect to catch up with the vets any time soon) elemental magic, which requires you to get lower end levels of magic higher before you can even touch elemental, then elemental mastery. Even when you have that, they will still have countless skills leveled up that you wont,
I.E.
All the transfers (health to mana, mana health, mana to stamina etc etc etc etc etc)
its an endless list, I hate bagging on a game but time is what is really important here the longer you play this game the bigger advantage you have over everyone else..
As so many have stated everyone is everything so besides a name and race everyone is essentially the same character. A skill cap would be the best thing could ever happen to darkfall but the problem is the population is so used to what they have it really is a make or break idea. Its easier for a business to stay on the current model providing them what little money they aquire from dark fall they get now...
RIP DARKFALL (for me)
If you love the idea of spending countless hours and never being done advancing your characters, you'll love darkfall, but please learn to macro before subbing... trust me.
I don't get it. You're saying the game is bad because there will be always stronger players than you? All of the whinings go this way, "you will need at least a whole year of grinding to match the vet players and be one of the best".
I mean, I haven't been the best player of the server in any MMO, by far, and didn't aim to. Why Darkfall has to be different? I just wanna have a good time, play a nice game with different mechanics and a bigger risk/reward sistem. Yeah, being constantly ganked by more powerful players can be annoying, so if you are getting killed 24/7 by some players you can't even touch nor try to escape from them, the game will become bullshit. But you could also belong to a clan that will help you in these cases, protecting you or even hunting down the ganker. I don't know, this game has a skill-required aiming system that makes it not so easy (like targetting and hitting 1) for player killers to gank.
I'm a complete noob so many of my states could be wrong, but here's the deal; if the powerful veteran players you won't ever reach are sooooo powerful they can take you and your friends in a breathtake, the game eventually becomes shit, making it very difficult for any rookie to advance. But if the oly complaint is "I WANNA BE THE STRONGER IN THE SERVER SO I PLAY 24/7 AND STILL CAN'T" sounds waaaaay lame to me. Get over it.
I don't get it. You're saying the game is bad because there will be always stronger players than you? All of the whinings go this way, "you will need at least a whole year of grinding to match the vet players and be one of the best".
I mean, I haven't been the best player of the server in any MMO, by far, and didn't aim to. Why Darkfall has to be different? I just wanna have a good time, play a nice game with different mechanics and a bigger risk/reward sistem. Yeah, being constantly ganked by more powerful players can be annoying, so if you are getting killed 24/7 by some players you can't even touch nor try to escape from them, the game will become bullshit. But you could also belong to a clan that will help you in these cases, protecting you or even hunting down the ganker. I don't know, this game has a skill-required aiming system that makes it not so easy (like targetting and hitting 1) for player killers to gank.
I'm a complete noob so many of my states could be wrong, but here's the deal; if the powerful veteran players you won't ever reach are sooooo powerful they can take you and your friends in a breathtake, the game eventually becomes shit, making it very difficult for any rookie to advance. But if the oly complaint is "I WANNA BE THE STRONGER IN THE SERVER SO I PLAY 24/7 AND STILL CAN'T" sounds waaaaay lame to me. Get over it.
Everyone wants to be the best and when they can't be...they get up in arms. I agree with your statements. A few days into the game and you can be useful. You may not be taking down guys solo but you can do damage and take some. Really, the truth is it takes a lot of player skill. Stats will not win you a fight. It takes awhile to get good and those veterans who stayed became good because they continued on and know the game inside and out. Don't expect to be good right off the bat, things take time. The skill barrier is much higher than WoW or RIFT.
Originally posted by Filterheadz I tried the trial 2 times and both times magic spells ruined it for me . There is grind in the game but not so noticeable if u just PLAY the game ... I played for 1 week and i had pretty decent stats in regard to my invested time in the game ... But both times as soon as i would venture out in to the unknown there was always some dude nearby just waiting to kill u whit 1 spell ... If they remove magic completely and like only allow some minor buffs i would probably love this game but in the state it is in atm .. well it's just no fun ... Of course letting only melle and archery in the game will not be possible but do something about magic..... be realistic if u want a sandbox ... if i wanted to play a fantasy mmo ... well there are millions to choose from.
1 more thing , i played both xsyon and mortal online they are both AMAZING games whit AMAZING potential but they both need at least 1-2 more years of work to be successful.
Man, there is a cap for spell damage in DF. No spell can hit you for more than 90 hp. You mean your toon had 90 hp? It's less than a half of a fresh started character. And you can get three times of this (270 hp) in a couple days. Stop lying about the game!
BTW 85 lvl mage in WoW can kill another 85 lvl character with a single spell. And it's an actual truth.
This thread should be renamed, "funny things that noobs think are true." ?LOL
Rays were a flavor of a month. Only a couple months I think? Ray macro was never successful unless your target was standing still . ..
2 melee weapons are not needed anymore. In fact, that was another flavor of the month but now that mounts have been nerfed you might as well just focus on the weapon that you want to use.
Macroing is not needed (as if it ever was but unfortunately every noob has been told this since day 1) because the grind has been reduced several times and there is now offline meditation. HP (most important thing) is now rewarded with diminishing returns so after just a month you can have almost as much HP as people who have played a year+
A week of hardcore grinding can now pass up my character who is a year and a half old skill-wise. It will take a couple months at least stat-wise but I have been playing for 2 years and earned stuff legitimately so deal with it.
Get it through your thick skulls that just because you can have them, you do not need every spell!
Hrmm whats needed to fight in Darkfall?:
You will want to use at least some basic magic despite your play-style like a way to blind your opponent, something to launch yourself to get over walls or bunny-hop, conversion spells and witchesbrew (the best AOE heal), sacrifice and heal other if you want to be friendly, and probably a ray or two would be a good idea. I would have one spell with range on it to kill someone hopping away but thats not needed either. You do not even need to use elemental magic and can block it to have better melee/archery. Most of a match's outcome is determined by your reaction time and split-second decision making while your aim and dodging skills would be second most important. Gear would be third.
If you think that you need wall of force and every 90 nuke and every 50 nuke and 3 different blinds and surging spells to win than you probably just need more practice or should try not going up against the server by yourself or the best of the best.
You are probably not going to win the Darkfall arena and get your own customized weapon unless you work very hard for it and practice and grind and farm and practice and grind and farm and then some . ... so does that mean that you are going to quit because you will not be the best? I guess I can understand but its a huge world and not too hard to feel like the bad arss of your current zone.
There are problems with the game but its much funner than other MMORPGs imo.
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Before you get excited the PVP is still all about who has the best scripts amongst the vet players, only now there are scripts that release spells when the target goes over an enemy and releases heal when target goes over a friendly non vets are just lambs to the slaughter.
As you can see, you need to "precast" every heal spell in the game. To switch from offensive spell to heal you need more than half a second - and noone stands still on your screen during the fight. Even more if you have staff created specially for shooting rays - like corpsecall.
You don't want auto-shooting R50 or R90 for obvious reasons - you need to aim where the enemy will be, not where he is now. Otherwise you'll do 5% of possible damage from indirect hit.
You don't want auto-shooting rays either - guy parrying with a shield would barely take any damage, put your spells on cooldown, and make you waste half of the mana bar.
Look, I'm currently subbed to darkfall, in fact im living out in human lands on my ork right now. But I gotta call bs were bs is do. Idk if their some promotional thing going on within the playerbase or what. But come on, this game doesn't have nearly any of what it claimed to have at the outset, or in that video, like the op claims. In fact, you could ask players in game if it did, and theywould tell you the same thing.
I watched that video, and i'll just give you a list of what i caught that darkfall doesn't have:
-skill decay-everyone is everything
-play to tailor your playstyle- see above, everyone is everything.
-protect city with walls+towers- walls don't do anything since all palyers are flying wizard warrior marksmen in darkfalls wonky physics engine, and towers are useless
-build a kingdom- kingdoms don't exist, theirs instant porting everywhere and global banking. clan alliances usually live out in one or two holdings and use the rest to have their alts macro resources their/portal rooms.
-npc guards- not here
I could also list a crap load of things they don't have on the top of my head, the biggest thing being the whole "be competetive" from a few days of play thing, or the whole never grind again thing.
Also, idk what up with all these semantics, but who cares what its called... People in darkfall macro, some attended some afk all night, they bug out mobs on purpose only to afk macro on that for hours, they afk swim, afk harvest macro, clans buy alt accoutns to put that alt in a hamlet were it runs macros all day to collect resources for the clan, they go under the map to macro, exploit game mechanics and physics, purchase alt accounts to take advantage of a broken allignment system(effectively griefing with no risk or consequence),and this list could continue if i wanted to.
So ya, bs. I sub every few months to see if things have changed, gotten better,and to just satisfy random urges, but i know that this upcoming expansion is make or break for a lot of people, so we'll see how it comes along.
+1 QFT
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This game is for masochists for sure. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Aimbot?
haha you obviously know nothing about Darkfall.
You cannot get hacks anymore. Those videos are all ancient and even back when they existed I have only seen someone hack like a total of 3 times (all banned pretty fast). The last time that I have even heard anyone mention even someone on a trial account use any hack was well over a year ago.
Aimbot is totally worthless because you cannot sprint-strafe. if someone tried using an aimbot they would be a sitting duck uneable to dodge effectively or do most of the strategies.
I feel like the only person who knows anything about the game who posted in this thread besides just a couple others.
It seems that you guys are pretty far off. You don't need everyskill. Far from. I have just used archery and melee since I started playing and do fine. Even if I played a mage who had everything, I would not be able to bind every skill/spell to a key on my keyboard (not enough keys, even with macros) and there is no way in hell that I am going to last long enough in a fight to be able to cast 1/10th of the spells out there . ..
Everyone wants witchesbrew, some bunny-hopping spells, a blind, and conversion spells. Thats it. Thats all you NEED. Everything else is just fluff and stuff to help certain situations but not needed.
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I played this game @ release and a few times in the last few years resubbing to see if it got better. The biggest problem is there is no skill cap because the majority of the competitive players never stop grinding skills so what it takes to be truely competitive grows and grows. People say oh you only need rank 50 and 2 weapon masterys, but thats a load of bull. Thats just something they heard from someone else and repeat it like rhetoric to get more people to play...
You need 2 weapon skills with masterys, fairly inflated stats since your starting stats will have a huge despairty (but don't expect to catch up with the vets any time soon) elemental magic, which requires you to get lower end levels of magic higher before you can even touch elemental, then elemental mastery. Even when you have that, they will still have countless skills leveled up that you wont,
I.E.
All the transfers (health to mana, mana health, mana to stamina etc etc etc etc etc)
its an endless list, I hate bagging on a game but time is what is really important here the longer you play this game the bigger advantage you have over everyone else..
As so many have stated everyone is everything so besides a name and race everyone is essentially the same character. A skill cap would be the best thing could ever happen to darkfall but the problem is the population is so used to what they have it really is a make or break idea. Its easier for a business to stay on the current model providing them what little money they aquire from dark fall they get now...
RIP DARKFALL (for me)
If you love the idea of spending countless hours and never being done advancing your characters, you'll love darkfall, but please learn to macro before subbing... trust me.
I don't get it. You're saying the game is bad because there will be always stronger players than you? All of the whinings go this way, "you will need at least a whole year of grinding to match the vet players and be one of the best".
I mean, I haven't been the best player of the server in any MMO, by far, and didn't aim to. Why Darkfall has to be different? I just wanna have a good time, play a nice game with different mechanics and a bigger risk/reward sistem. Yeah, being constantly ganked by more powerful players can be annoying, so if you are getting killed 24/7 by some players you can't even touch nor try to escape from them, the game will become bullshit. But you could also belong to a clan that will help you in these cases, protecting you or even hunting down the ganker. I don't know, this game has a skill-required aiming system that makes it not so easy (like targetting and hitting 1) for player killers to gank.
I'm a complete noob so many of my states could be wrong, but here's the deal; if the powerful veteran players you won't ever reach are sooooo powerful they can take you and your friends in a breathtake, the game eventually becomes shit, making it very difficult for any rookie to advance. But if the oly complaint is "I WANNA BE THE STRONGER IN THE SERVER SO I PLAY 24/7 AND STILL CAN'T" sounds waaaaay lame to me. Get over it.
Everyone wants to be the best and when they can't be...they get up in arms. I agree with your statements. A few days into the game and you can be useful. You may not be taking down guys solo but you can do damage and take some. Really, the truth is it takes a lot of player skill. Stats will not win you a fight. It takes awhile to get good and those veterans who stayed became good because they continued on and know the game inside and out. Don't expect to be good right off the bat, things take time. The skill barrier is much higher than WoW or RIFT.
I'm waiting for them to add movement momentum and fix the economy.
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i just resubed only to play with the new fishing boat lol
Man, there is a cap for spell damage in DF. No spell can hit you for more than 90 hp. You mean your toon had 90 hp? It's less than a half of a fresh started character. And you can get three times of this (270 hp) in a couple days. Stop lying about the game!
BTW 85 lvl mage in WoW can kill another 85 lvl character with a single spell. And it's an actual truth.
More lies...........................
Darkfall takes player skill, as in how good you are behind the keyboard.
This thread should be renamed, "funny things that noobs think are true." ?LOL
Rays were a flavor of a month. Only a couple months I think? Ray macro was never successful unless your target was standing still . ..
2 melee weapons are not needed anymore. In fact, that was another flavor of the month but now that mounts have been nerfed you might as well just focus on the weapon that you want to use.
Macroing is not needed (as if it ever was but unfortunately every noob has been told this since day 1) because the grind has been reduced several times and there is now offline meditation. HP (most important thing) is now rewarded with diminishing returns so after just a month you can have almost as much HP as people who have played a year+
A week of hardcore grinding can now pass up my character who is a year and a half old skill-wise. It will take a couple months at least stat-wise but I have been playing for 2 years and earned stuff legitimately so deal with it.
Get it through your thick skulls that just because you can have them, you do not need every spell!
Hrmm whats needed to fight in Darkfall?:
You will want to use at least some basic magic despite your play-style like a way to blind your opponent, something to launch yourself to get over walls or bunny-hop, conversion spells and witchesbrew (the best AOE heal), sacrifice and heal other if you want to be friendly, and probably a ray or two would be a good idea. I would have one spell with range on it to kill someone hopping away but thats not needed either. You do not even need to use elemental magic and can block it to have better melee/archery. Most of a match's outcome is determined by your reaction time and split-second decision making while your aim and dodging skills would be second most important. Gear would be third.
If you think that you need wall of force and every 90 nuke and every 50 nuke and 3 different blinds and surging spells to win than you probably just need more practice or should try not going up against the server by yourself or the best of the best.
You are probably not going to win the Darkfall arena and get your own customized weapon unless you work very hard for it and practice and grind and farm and practice and grind and farm and then some . ... so does that mean that you are going to quit because you will not be the best? I guess I can understand but its a huge world and not too hard to feel like the bad arss of your current zone.
There are problems with the game but its much funner than other MMORPGs imo.
NEWS FLASH! "A bank was robbed the other day and a man opened fire on the customers being held hostage. One customer zig-zag sprinted until he found cover. When questioned later he explained that he was a hardcore gamer and knew just what to do!" Download my music for free! I release several albums per month as part of project "Thee Untitled" . .. some video game music remixes and cover songs done with instruments in there as well! http://theeuntitled.bandcamp.com/ Check out my roleplaying blog, collection of fictional short stories, and fantasy series... updated on a blog for now until I am finished! https://childrenfromtheheavensbelow.blogspot.com/ Watch me game on occasion or make music... https://www.twitch.tv/spoontheeuntitled and subscribe! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUvqULn678VrF3OasgnbsyA
It's not even possible to create such hack.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpNiEvdL_88&feature=related
As you can see, you need to "precast" every heal spell in the game. To switch from offensive spell to heal you need more than half a second - and noone stands still on your screen during the fight. Even more if you have staff created specially for shooting rays - like corpsecall.
You don't want auto-shooting R50 or R90 for obvious reasons - you need to aim where the enemy will be, not where he is now. Otherwise you'll do 5% of possible damage from indirect hit.
You don't want auto-shooting rays either - guy parrying with a shield would barely take any damage, put your spells on cooldown, and make you waste half of the mana bar.
+1 QFT