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The Lure of EVE
PNM_Jennings
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So everynow and then I read something else about EVE and I end up having a jonesing to get it. I've tried the trial twice, and the second time I got substantially more from it than the first. There's just a few problems, but I'm hoping someone can shed some light on them. Mostly my questions are sort of pertaining to corps since that seems to be the best way to really get into the game. First off I wonder if I can play it semi-casually? I spend more time on games than I would like, a few hours a day at the least, but I still go to college so sometimes I just won't be on. Second off, being a casual sort, are things like Vent required by a lot of corps? Because I generally don't mess with that stuff. And finally, will it suck out my soul? That seems to be a warning that pops up a lot. I realize those first two are questions better directed at a corp recruiter, but after looking through the forums (here and at EVE Online) basically I see very little about those two things. Sometimes it's mentioned, but most of the time they say general operating location, sp requirement, general activities.I mean maybe it's just taken for granted that you use a mic and spend every waking hour online. I dunno. Anything anyone's got to say on the matter would be fancy.
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Most corps do require vent, at least for pvp. If you are stictly doing pve or industrial/mining type stuff, then maybe not.
Some corps are okay with casual players, some aren't. A couple hours or more a day is a pretty decent chunk of time I'd say. 2-3 hours is more than enough to play in my opinion.
It can suck out your soul, but if you are limited by time, then you may be safeguarded against this.
EVE is very much casual friendly and like any game it can be played 'hardcore' 18 hours a day or 5 hours a week, it is up to you how much of your spare time you want to spend on video game.
There are as many entry requirements as are corps.
Ventrilo is often required but that does not mean you have to speak. Voice communication is important for fleet co-ordination and in that case only a person in charge is allowed to speak anyway.
(sometimes, i keep trading in Jita for something like... 18h periods? id does provide me 1 to 3 B benefits, but i'd like to be able to stop myself, sometimes...)
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Eve cannot be described as casual. Unless you want to spend your time mining by yourself or flying around in a Frigate. If you want to fly big ships and do some serious PvP you need some serious time investment as death penalties are very harsch and getting ganked is quite common.
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Being podded while at early stage is a lot easier than say having 60-70mil sp. It is better to pvp while you are new since frigs are cheap. They're are just about 1 mil each, you could make at about 200k-300k as a newbie per hour.
Clones replacement are also cheap, and you are unlikely to carry implants (you dont have to worry about replacing them).
Who said serious pvp had to be done in something bigger than a frig? Seriously?
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Eve has integrated voice which is extremly easy to use, so I wouldnt worry about that.
On the subject of 'Casualness of EVE' and the equally infamous 'Life sucking potency' well these are kind of tied together with relate to how much you enjoy the game.
For me Eve was addictive for a few months as the intricate depth of Eve gave me feelings of a young boy in a MASSIVE sweet shop. It continues to be a casual game for me several years on, but every now and then I do get addicted, and thats often when I decide to leave high sec and adventure in to the deep blue of 0.0 corps / alliance life.
If it DOES suck you in, well, I'd embrace it because its not likley to last long. Its best to make a concerted effort in the fist few months. Stick at it, try to talk to people in local / noob corp. Once you've got a good undersstanding of the basics, then you can relax and take it casually. Run some missions when you fancy it, do some planetary interaction, maybe mining. Plenty of corps out there who are casual.
So like everything else it just depends. Man, you think I would just take that as a mantra by now. Anyway. Thanks for the responses. I'm not sure if I'll convince myself to take the leap, but we'll see.
Well, you've already gotten most of it covered...but one more never hurt...
Can you play it casually? Yes, but with limitations...you really cannot do well in a nullsec corp if you are a casual; the pace of operations, combat and changes in anyplace worth being means that those corps have little room for someone who cannot contribute large amounts of time and effort. You'll have much better luck with high-sec/low-sec corps and due to the huge numbers of people playing from euro/asian timezones you can pretty much be garaunteed of a good match whenever you play.
Do you need Vent or TS? Only if you intend to seriously pvp; any corp that takes pvp seriously will want you on voicecomms that they control.
As for soul sucking...well it depends what you mean; I found every aspect of the PvE side rather boring...but that is at least in part because I played far far too much. You do need to understand going in that a great many people in the game are there to profit from your loss...even in nominally "safe" areas you always have to be wary because people *will* be out to cause you harm.
It is a figure of speech. I can imagine most people would want to get into a BS or T2 Cruiser, dont think so many enjoy being stuck in a Frigate.
But if OP enjoys Frigates then Eve PvP can be fun as they are quite disposable and easy to replace. But once you start to deck out in T2 mods and ships a death can be really, Really bad.
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Who said serious pvp had to be done in something bigger than a frig? Seriously?
It is a figure of speech. I can imagine most people would want to get into a BS or T2 Cruiser, dont think so many enjoy being stuck in a Frigate.
But if OP enjoys Frigates then Eve PvP can be fun as they are quite disposable and easy to replace. But once you start to deck out in T2 mods and ships a death can be really, Really bad.
T2 Mods are totally useless for frig-size, except for turrets and damage-mods. Anyway, a rifter wont cost more than 1,2/1,5M... Which is easily generated.
Anyway, most of the casual PvPers just go fly through 2 or 3 of the pirates arcs every 3 months(you just need a destroyer), it's definitely more than enough to pay your whole frigate set for 3 months, unless you're flying T2 frigs, or faction frigs.
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You can have a pvp fitted rifter for about 1m isk and only 4 days training
Of course you'd need to have a few mates to be able to do much but its certainly possible.
- vent is acceptable to me only if you manage to find some cool people to play with. when looking for a corp, use the keywords "laid back", or "chill" or "chilling with the bros", "Jack Johnson", etc. jk. anyway, i was extremely cautious at first (with good reason) because i didnt want some nerd rager abusing me over mic. this happens a lot, and u simply walk away from that shit. but as i said, eventually you'll find laid back people who take the game seriously enough, but dont pressure you to do things.
- EVE is one of the most casual friendly games once you settle in. imo, open up an account and dont close it. just keep training skills. with planetary interaction, you can make enough isk to buy at least one plex per month, making the game free.
- get into a pvp corp that is noob friendly but has many experienced players who are chill. it might take a while, but you'll find something.
Although you dont want a corp thats TOO chilled. You need something to do, something to work for and get the feeling that other people are working their share too.
There is nothing worse than being in corp where your doing all the work and noone else really seems to care.
But yea, its gona sound cliche but the social side of eve is really what its about, having a laugh is the only thing which brings warmth to the otherwise cold and cruel universe
Hey since I'm still on the fence, is there any way to apply a second trial to an account or do you have to make a whole new one?
Whole new one, unless you can afford a plex with in game isk you earned during your first trial.
I run a small WH corp and we do require voice comms if you are in fleet. You need to be able to listen to commands at least because combat is too fast paced for typing orders. Most 0.0 corporations do require you to participate in mandatory ops (and suck the life out of you). This is exactly what led me to start my own corp. Most corps will require some level of participation from their members. Afterall you are playing a multiplayer game. This can vary greatly though so you need to choose your corp wisely.
Try to figure out what you like to do in Eve then find some people who do it. The right group of people can make this game extremely enjoyable.