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Is Eve washed up?
Badaboom
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in EVE Online
...or is the best yet to come?
Taking a break from Darkfall and have always said I would give Eve a serious shot if I wasn't playing Darkfall.
I feel that Eve is the space ying to Darkfall's fantasy yang.
For those who have been there, done that with Eve, got any advice?
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Is eve washed up or is the best yet to come?
Yes. It's a polarizing game, so for some both would be true.
im just waiting to walk in a space station , i feel it might feel like global agendaish thing going on
Well, it's not everyones cup of tea, but it's not washed up. It has more depth than any other current mmo imo, and I think it's a game meant for players who are in for the long run, because once you learn it and get a hold of it, it's really fun. Also, the gameplay itself may not keep you on the edge of your chair, but the metagame is the best byfar and it's pvp is also better than most mmo's.
And, I also think it's the most unique mmo out.
Be honest I think the Community done right article is a good description of what EVE is. It's not a game that will become washed up till a large majority of players(over 75% of its active playerbase) decides that its not worth it anymore. And since the game is designed around the players causing the drama not the Developers (well, most of the time) EVE doesn't have the content burn out that most other MMOs have. If you get a chance go over to CCPs youtube channel or the Video post here and look at some of the videos from fanfest. The CCP presents/keynote being the big one. Hopefully after that you'll get a better understanding of what CCP is constantly trying to push for EVE to become and hopefully what their other games will become.
eve is a nice game but its like watching microsoft excel spreadsheet, i use it for work and it could be fun for those people to me its just boring. its got potential but again its a niche market.
The game is most certainly alive and well.
So I don't know about being 'washed up'.
I think old, improving, and still very popular is the best way to describe it in its current state.
When you dive into the mechanics of each ship, the player driven economy, your chosen path, the requirements for everything you can do, the skills, and the game itself you will find a gamer that has a huge amount of depth. I would check out eveuniversity.org and dive into the knowledge base collected there. Eve is one server with an average of 30-45k players on 24'7.
It is not washed up in the least. There are now, according to CCP, more subscribers than ever. The changes they have made over the last year have been pretty cool, and they of course always have more nice changes lined up. Plus, hopefully sometime soontm they will introduce Incarna (walking in stations), and all hell will break loose. Eve has continually gotten better over the years in my opinion, and there is no reason why this will stop happening.
Introduction of boobies, and pretty asses, then hell to all the Jita scammers?
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only someone who had never played Eve would make that comparison.. there are no spreadsheets in Eve.. and what your referring to is that at some point in the past, someone said that you need to use a program like excel to keep track of market trading in Eve.. that doesnt mean its in the game.. and continous quotes like yours just highlight your lack of knowledge.
There's no way EVE is washed up. The playerbase is strong and we have consistent progressive support from the developers.
The one thing I'd strongly reccomend doing if you're starting out with EVE, is to join a friendly and supportive corp. Without a corp, EVE would be the most boring game ever for me. EVE is simply not a game unless you're in a corp. That's my opinion anyway. I know there are some soloists out there. But I think they're insane.
the lone wolf thing is possible in Eve.. but it takes a lot of skill, and.. you die a lot.. because even a small roaming gang of 4 will nail them every time, fast tackle and point, and your dead.. which means the 'lone wolfer' would have to stay in high sec, with low sec being their hunting grounds.. though.. going militia would probably make things easier.. but again, that would mean they have to 'join a fleet' so not really 'solo' ...
Yeah true. But any soloist would probably have had corp experience in their early game. If the solo game really appeals to you then I'd still suggest joining a corp until you've got a feel for the game and mechanics. Once you've got that understanding of EVE then you could probably go out as a lone wolf. But yeah. Still think lone wolves are insane. I do respect them though. Gotta be a pretty hardcore badass to go it alone.
CCP is making around 65 million a year based on subscriptions alone based on the data from EVE Fanfest 2011....I don't think they are washed up.
Either he never played or he never left high sec space. Most people I know that hate Eve played the trial for a couple weeks and did nothing but run missions (which are horrible) or mined (which is even worse). Eve allows you to do almost anything you want including scamming. Why do so many people limit themselves to the two worst things in the game and then complain that it's boring?
because they have learned this behavior in every other MMO prior to playing this game. Create an alt and let it sit in Perkone, or one of the starting corps and watch the chat. "where do i get my quest from?", "can you bind faction gear?" "can you tell me how many quests you have to run before you can level?"...blah blah blah.
These people have done no research at all. They come to EvE with the same mentality that was learned from all the others and quite appropriately, applied that knowledge to a game that doesn't use any of it. After 14 days of trying to solo..because that's how they have done all the others.....and mine for trit b/c they want to learn how to craft....they feel like CCP has created a terrible game.
So as a vet you are faced with a dilemma..?? Should I help this new fish? Or should I kill him and make him leave faster? Occasionally this happens b/c people are jerks, but mainly it happens b/c the new player has absolutely NO IDEA what he/she can do..and thus it's CCP's fault.
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The loot fagging and fear mongering in NPC corp chat doesn't help either, you get the 3-4 year old hardcore care bears that have never left high sec linking Navy Raven fits trying to convince the newbies that's the path to success and then tell them horror stories about how 20 pirates are camping every low sec entry point and how they will explode the instant they leave 0.5 sec.
The also tell them that if they join a player run corp they will get ganked by corp members and scammed by the CEO and perma wardecced.
Currently playing:
EVE online (Ruining low sec one hotdrop at a time)
Gravity Rush,
Dishonoured: The Knife of Dunwall.
(Waiting for) Metro: Last Light,
Company of Heroes II.
Here is my issue with Eve, I hate the idea of alliances and hate the fact that basically Eve comes down to the acumulation of isk. Lose a ship, you basically lost isk, loot some crap, you gained isk (or a part/resource if you are certified to use it).
I do like the piracy, scamming, and high-sec griefing however... and Eve has had a couple expansions since the last time I played it...
Meh, I'll try it again when they get into this walking around crap seriously.
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second is some game has future on every basis its EVE
third EVE is not for anyone. You need to play with friends to be open minded. This come from ex AOC and 4 year wow player. I play now in 0.0 small corporatio with over 2k kills in game in just over 2 years ( a lot for relatively low SP player ).
Away from conventioanl barriers to EVE there are those already mentioned like those carebears that play EVE long time and DONT KNOW SHIT. with 5 mil SP i was already in 0.0 and killing people. With 1 year in game i experienced wormhole ganking and living there large coalition wars small gang warfare did for some moths solo pirating in low sec and some fail high sec ganking.
This is really the only good MMO there because it is actualy MMO. You feel like part of the unitverse. For a lot of people that grew in regular MMOs just like i did ( wow first mmo for me ) it is really hard to experience this. Fortunately i had real life friends that told me what and how to do and how to develop properly and how to think about it and how to understand the game.
After all of that i really cant go back to regular MMO POS crap lvling and doing questing for gear and utter BS liek that to be honest
for me EVE is perfect , game really has future.
And for people that say i w8 for them to add avatars so i can play eve. You are 100% wrong. Eve has nothing to do with avatars or even ships. Eve is about PEOPLE , that is why EVE is unique. CCP is adding avatars just to atract some of the WOW crowd and nothing more. It will not sever much purpose for average joe. It is nice to have that from "its scifi similatro "stand point but it has nothing to do with actualy gameplay. So if you can or dont like how eve deals with players and game it self you will not like it even after they add avatars.
In fact maybe 5% of those that try it will find game really attractive and will stick to it. Ofc those that play EVE for more then 6 months and trull realize what this game is all about and most importantly FEEL it they never ever play other MMOs.
And because of that unless CCP deliberately destroy game it will never be washed up and will probably out live every other MMO unless we get some other game that does same stuff that EVE does. And nobody is doing it ( at least not doing it right ).
EVE is real... its a good slogan to be honest. A lot of people cant get it , but those that are into EVE get it. Because for then EVE is serious bussnis. Other games ... are ... well just games. Thats is why EVE is big and great
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Would you be able to elaborate on what you don't like about the idea of alliances?
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CCP continues to find ways to appease it's core of hardcore sandbox players while evolving the game away from its hardcore roots. I find the myriad of recent game play improvements and the Sansha incursion very interesting.
Although I've never done it, my understanding is you can basically gang up with random players and potentially face off against a dev controlled fleet of Sansha. While not a traditional battleground it's not what EVE is known for, and shows that CCP wants a game that you can log into and get some instant (EVE style) action then log off.
With ambulation, new graphics improvements, and more game play options than ever, EVE still has plenty of game and there is no way around it.
Just dont expect any twitch combat. Eve combat is mostly target enemy, activate weapons and shields/armor repair. Quite boring I would say. Even WoWs combat is more fun as atleast the skills there got some flavor to it.
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I bet you died a lot if that's how you think you fly a ship in EVE.
Currently playing:
EVE online (Ruining low sec one hotdrop at a time)
Gravity Rush,
Dishonoured: The Knife of Dunwall.
(Waiting for) Metro: Last Light,
Company of Heroes II.
hey as long as he is happy taking on things that barely shoot back, he's right
now if he actually tries to take on someone else well... we all know how that would have turned out.
I've done some level 2 missions, so completing some starter-level PvE qualifies me to know all about combat in EVE.
(He forgot to say that the guy with the most SP always win though)
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