Here we have it. Those things you mentioned take away from playerskill (twitchskill and aim). Thats why there is a big discussion and demand about WoF (a root) to be changed and also blinds to be changed. Hell DF players managed to convince the devs to tone down aoe spell effect by very much.
Following assumption is considered to be true, artifical spell effects take away from personal skill thats why all these CC isn't very "Darkfally".
btw pets fighting for you ...you count this as your skill .-..really ?
Thanks for the response. I didnt bring up "SKILL".
To the other response and guessing what game I am playing, I dont play anything at the moment, and haven't for 6 mos.
I was going to say same thing till I saw this post. I was like wow, I don't remember seeing "skill" in his post. lol
Ooookay, darkfall fanboi, don't get panties in wad.
But yes, I do feel moves like OP listed are very skillful. It just depends on how the game utilizes those moves. Stun lock to death? Probably not. 1 shotting magic users, where is skill in that? And I to this date don't know a game that has a pet do enough dmg to do all the work for you. But to make a judgement call on how to deal with someone's pet that could be interrupting you, that requires some skill to handle. I probably play this game I would eat up your "skill" argument because after all, it's still a game with many limitations. And not having stuns removes it from a life-like feel. I come behind you and hit you with a hammer, You are going to be stunned, for sure. And that is what I heard Darkfall tried to do was bring a little more realizm in the game, just failed miserably in other areas.
Here we have it. Those things you mentioned take away from playerskill (twitchskill and aim). Thats why there is a big discussion and demand about WoF (a root) to be changed and also blinds to be changed. Hell DF players managed to convince the devs to tone down aoe spell effect by very much.
Following assumption is considered to be true, artifical spell effects take away from personal skill thats why all these CC isn't very "Darkfally".
btw pets fighting for you ...you count this as your skill .-..really ?
Thanks for the response. I didnt bring up "SKILL".
To the other response and guessing what game I am playing, I dont play anything at the moment, and haven't for 6 mos.
I was going to say same thing till I saw this post. I was like wow, I don't remember seeing "skill" in his post. lol
Ooookay, darkfall fanboi, don't get panties in wad.
But yes, I do feel moves like OP listed are very skillful. It just depends on how the game utilizes those moves. Stun lock to death? Probably not. 1 shotting magic users, where is skill in that? And I to this date don't know a game that has a pet do enough dmg to do all the work for you. But to make a judgement call on how to deal with someone's pet that could be interrupting you, that requires some skill to handle. I probably play this game I would eat up your "skill" argument because after all, it's still a game with many limitations. And not having stuns removes it from a life-like feel. I come behind you and hit you with a hammer, You are going to be stunned, for sure. And that is what I heard Darkfall tried to do was bring a little more realizm in the game, just failed miserably in other areas.
Your post is confusing so il mine into it and respond what i want to respond.
You cannot 1 shot in any form, not even 5-10 shot a newb anymore. They patched it a long time ago with Vitality diminishing return. So a newb can get 300 hp easily. An average player can get to 400 quickly since the stats meditation.
Ok, i give up, your post is really confusing as hell.
So for your last setense, DF is not suppose to be realist. Mortal online is suppose to be realist so you got 2 choice.It plays mostly like an old school FPS game like counter strike. The project started in 2001. This is why the game is not perfect. They plan to remake darkfall for your information. DF is probably the fps game that takes more skill to masterd. I am not talking about the grind, but the way you control your character. There is so many stuff to do in 1 fight, even a 1 on 1 compared to target base game where you have to hotkeys 1 by 1.
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Can't understand why people don't like DF melee. It's the best part of the game's pvp. Where you need a perfect control, good reaction, a lot of managing and some luck. The most adrenaline thing in DF is melee... It seems so simple and even primitive. But when you fight a realy good player you all of a sudden find that he manages to land 3 hits on each your 1...
The combat in Darkfall is great fun, one of the best things about the game and what makes me coem back to it every time.
Sure meele is not the mosts details, you have two types of standard hit, left/right swing and overhead swing(usually used in pve so you dont hit your mates) then there are abotu 5 special attacks, one that knocks a target away from you, one that pulls closer to you, whirlwind attack and a stab attack that courses bleed damage and also one that stps people blocking for a bit.. then there is parry and side stepping.. yes maybe watching vids it seems like people running around liek headless chickens but it does not seem like that when your actually doing the fighting.. I really enjoy melee in darkfall
Tons of magic schools with loads of spells to play with.. too much to go into here really
Archery is another nice thing about the game like someone mentioned before..
There is a lot to darkfall combat and ltos of skill involved..
Give the trial a go and then at least you will know for yourself if you like it or not
Everytime PvP is mentioned in a thread, someone comes along with Darkfall as a reccomendation. So for a very short moment, I get excited. I then proceed to watch a youtube video of Darkfall PvP and I am sorely disappointed.
The combat looks like Counterstrike Knife Fighting, throw in some range attack, managing endurance (I think?) and loads of circle strafing.
I came here not to bash the game, I would like to be wrong. I am itching to play another PvP game but the combat doesnt look deep enough. Sorry. Am I missing something? Did any of you feel the same way before playing?
Is there any Crowd Control? Any?
Stuns?
Slows?
Roots?
Pets?
I must be missing something.. enlighten me.
you can get slows, blinds, knockups, and something like force grip/pull in star wars games only that those are traveling missiles
all these effects come from spells which are missiles with traveltime and are all under magic, sword / bow has no cc abilities but a blocking disabling skill, hard part in meele is timing when to enter into meele range between your enemys swings to land your own and get out before his next swing to win, most players i encountered dont play it this way though, they simply rely on their superior chracter /gear to outdamage you when staying whole time close to you
regarding the spells:
root / slow / own movement : wall of force:
effect: creates a bubble, people inside the bubble are drawn into its center
blinds:
there are 2 normal blinds
1 aoe blind called confusion which blinds everyone who looks at the spot the missile hits the ground/person
knockups:
there are several spells that send the player flying up into the air, if youre good you can get some good damage in while hes midair and can't evade, target can either switch to sword&shield and block a lot of the damage or keep firing at you
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I was going to say same thing till I saw this post. I was like wow, I don't remember seeing "skill" in his post. lol
Ooookay, darkfall fanboi, don't get panties in wad.
But yes, I do feel moves like OP listed are very skillful. It just depends on how the game utilizes those moves. Stun lock to death? Probably not. 1 shotting magic users, where is skill in that? And I to this date don't know a game that has a pet do enough dmg to do all the work for you. But to make a judgement call on how to deal with someone's pet that could be interrupting you, that requires some skill to handle. I probably play this game I would eat up your "skill" argument because after all, it's still a game with many limitations. And not having stuns removes it from a life-like feel. I come behind you and hit you with a hammer, You are going to be stunned, for sure. And that is what I heard Darkfall tried to do was bring a little more realizm in the game, just failed miserably in other areas.
You telling me that people still play this game?
Your post is confusing so il mine into it and respond what i want to respond.
You cannot 1 shot in any form, not even 5-10 shot a newb anymore. They patched it a long time ago with Vitality diminishing return. So a newb can get 300 hp easily. An average player can get to 400 quickly since the stats meditation.
Ok, i give up, your post is really confusing as hell.
So for your last setense, DF is not suppose to be realist. Mortal online is suppose to be realist so you got 2 choice.It plays mostly like an old school FPS game like counter strike. The project started in 2001. This is why the game is not perfect. They plan to remake darkfall for your information. DF is probably the fps game that takes more skill to masterd. I am not talking about the grind, but the way you control your character. There is so many stuff to do in 1 fight, even a 1 on 1 compared to target base game where you have to hotkeys 1 by 1.
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Oh yeah its so much funner than anything else.
Come check out the changes:
http://darkfallonline.com/expansion/
http://www.darkfallonline.com/blog/
So much funner than Lineage 2 and all the others.
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Can't understand why people don't like DF melee. It's the best part of the game's pvp. Where you need a perfect control, good reaction, a lot of managing and some luck. The most adrenaline thing in DF is melee... It seems so simple and even primitive. But when you fight a realy good player you all of a sudden find that he manages to land 3 hits on each your 1...
The combat in Darkfall is great fun, one of the best things about the game and what makes me coem back to it every time.
Sure meele is not the mosts details, you have two types of standard hit, left/right swing and overhead swing(usually used in pve so you dont hit your mates) then there are abotu 5 special attacks, one that knocks a target away from you, one that pulls closer to you, whirlwind attack and a stab attack that courses bleed damage and also one that stps people blocking for a bit.. then there is parry and side stepping.. yes maybe watching vids it seems like people running around liek headless chickens but it does not seem like that when your actually doing the fighting.. I really enjoy melee in darkfall
Tons of magic schools with loads of spells to play with.. too much to go into here really
Archery is another nice thing about the game like someone mentioned before..
There is a lot to darkfall combat and ltos of skill involved..
Give the trial a go and then at least you will know for yourself if you like it or not
you can get slows, blinds, knockups, and something like force grip/pull in star wars games only that those are traveling missiles
all these effects come from spells which are missiles with traveltime and are all under magic, sword / bow has no cc abilities but a blocking disabling skill, hard part in meele is timing when to enter into meele range between your enemys swings to land your own and get out before his next swing to win, most players i encountered dont play it this way though, they simply rely on their superior chracter /gear to outdamage you when staying whole time close to you
regarding the spells:
root / slow / own movement : wall of force:
effect: creates a bubble, people inside the bubble are drawn into its center
blinds:
there are 2 normal blinds
1 aoe blind called confusion which blinds everyone who looks at the spot the missile hits the ground/person
knockups:
there are several spells that send the player flying up into the air, if youre good you can get some good damage in while hes midair and can't evade, target can either switch to sword&shield and block a lot of the damage or keep firing at you
no stuns or pets ingame
Pi*1337/100 = 42