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Hackers plan 3rd attack on Sony
Kruul
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Report: Hackers plan third attack on Sony
By Wilson Rothman
Hackers are planning a third "major" attack on Sony websites, according to a Cnet report. The allegation comes from an observer in a chat channel used by hackers, who saw discussion of a plan to launch an attack this weekend. The witness relayed the info to the tech news site.
The hackers allegedly already have access to some of Sony's servers, and plan to go public with the personal information they find in their attack. It is not clear from the report whether or not these hackers are part of the Anonymous group. Whoever they are, it is not likely that they're acting as part of the group, as Anonymous has stated it was not involved in the recent attacks on PlayStation Network and Sony Online Entertainment servers.
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Anonymous don't steal credit card infomation, they had access to the DDos previous to the attack but nothing else, and Sony have only brought this on themselves with there lame security. Hopefully this will teach them that security isn't a joke and needs to be updated and upgraded all the time to keep up with the latest threats.
Speaking of Security, this could also be a lesson to other companies to tighten their belt on the matter.
Ive heard that Microsoft usually get attacked by all forms every 30 seconds, makes me wonder if they hire some of these
hackers to the benefit of being at the top of their game when it comes to protection.
I wonder if the hackers would back down if Sony stopped chasing the scalp of the guy who cracked PS3? They can't do it without losing face but they are ruined by these attacks either. Lose - lose. If Sony bends to the will of the Anynomous, I don't know if it is a good thing or bad. Good, I guess... The little guy wins, the big corporation loses.
I skate to where the puck is going to be, not where it has been -Wayne Gretzky
How's the front door of your home? Is it lockpickable? Breakable? How about windows? Oh and one good way (I've heard) is to go through wooden walls if you have those. It takes a moment but not too long. Is there any weak spot in your house that would justify breaking into and making those that do it heroes?
I'm so sick and tired of this crap, If there is an actual attack this weekend, I pray to God that everyone one of the people involved in it are caught and treated like terrorists.
Whether it's sony or some other company, there is no way they can fully protect themselves. Anyone that knows anything about coding knows there is always away around online defenses or some hole that only needs to be found.
It's kinda like what someone mentioned earlier about putting up security on your house. You can have the best system and strongest locks but still someone can break through all that with the right preparations.
That's just awesome.
I'm suing Sony if that happens.
If I find out that any information of mine is leaked out because of sonys failed security I will personally go after them with any and every legal resources I can, and I doubt that many people will ever trust a sony product again?
Failed Security, I wish sony did not take such as a joke, and I really feel that this is an inside JOB, they really need to check all their servers for a virus, maybe even revert all Data on their servers a few weeks piror to anything going on, and they need to check all their hardware for Servers on sticks and back doors used by these hackers like srsly before it is too late.
So what Anon DDOS their servers, but yet someone decided to get into their servers for the Lulz and hack their systems and all informatino of its customers I call FAIL to sony.
I bet that even my own security on my desktop is better than what sony had lol.
Suing what for? For not having 100% hack proof security?
For making my private info public.
There are already 2 class action lawsuits, if any of my private info is thrown online I'm joining the lawsuit. http://attackofthefanboy.com/news/sony-hit-with-second-class-action-lawsuit-in-psn-hacking-breach/
I do everything in my power to keep my private info and my family safe on the internet.
You guys do realize that not only is there a third party security firm but also FBI techies working on this system and investigating it right?
You are suing wrong entity then. It was the intruders stealing the data, Sony did not hand them over to 3rd party to go public.
Taking something from someone else property without consent is a theft and considered as criminal act in any legal country.
Look up the congressional hearing, they might as well have handed it over.
They didn't hand over our personal info, they didn't sell our personal info. The information was ILLEGALLY stolen from them. Yes on some level the are being held responisble, but the fact of the matter is that they were violated just as badly, or in my opinion far worse, as we were. This outage is costing this company millions of dollars in current and future revenue. This incident perpetrated by arrogant children that believe Sony wronged them, is going to cost good people their jobs. If all you idiots wanna put your name on a list in some class action lawsuit that will never succeed be my guess, but the amount of information you have to input into that lawsuit will be no more safe than it was inside the sony servers.
There is nothing to look up as Sony declined the invite... You can look up the report their sent instead and be more specific.
So far Sony acted openly and very fast, great job.
If Sony were negligent in their actions or attempts to prevent the actions currently taking place against them I would be less sympathetic, but the truth is I don't know the current situation and it's unlikely many here do either.
I have a question though, probably more aimed at those from the US. Gary McKinnon hacked into the pentagon back in 2001 to this day the US are trying to extradite him, surely this is the fault of the Pentagon for having poor security no? Some are saying he should be facing the death penalty. Shouldn't the US citizens just be allowed to sue the government for failing to protect them from the attack?
This guy didn't even take anything and certainly wasn't threatening to make my personal information public, there is no Robin Hood shit here, these 'hackers' are criminals and criminals will find a way and they should be dealt with as such. SOE are victims, no matter how much you may like or dislike them, you can not base judgement on your opinion of the victims character that's pathetic.
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I wonder how long this mess is going to go on
I thought about buying the original everquest today and trying out the new restart server for the heck of it.. I didn't even realize the play station network was under attack >_<
Either way.. I think its stupid if anonymous is involved (i have my doubts its really them) because they would piss off regular gamers instead of just sony or corporate heads.
I'm not for or against anonymous , but stealing credit card numbers and shutting down many people's video games / entertainment isn't a way to get good PR
Is a mugging victim guilty if they decide to take a short cut down a dark alley on their way home?
This is the latest news as of 8 hours ago from Sony twitter:
"Unfortunately, we are unable to bring SOE services back online today. We regret the downtime."
That implies they intended to be online today but it will be delayed a bit more so I guess they will be back on the weekend, Monday the latest all goes as planned.
I do not think you realize how big this thing is, it is not just the Sony, it will have huge impact on e-commerce and data security as a whole.
I think people should be thankful it happened to Sony and not some less protected company where the damage could be way worse.
I wouldn't hold your breath on the weekend, nor anytime next week.
If by openly and very fast, you mean sitting on it for two days before notifying anyone, then sure. It was revealed that they were hosting data on an out of date server without a firewall. Someone else posted a link of the video in one of the SOE-related threads, I won't repost it.
It isn't my job to Google things for fanboys.
Why not? The twitter message really seemed like they were planning to go back online today so they are almost done with the works.
PSN is already down for about 2 or 3 weeks and they were working on investigation and fixes in the time being. Taking down SOE is a security procedure and consequence and as such does not necessarily have to impact the maintenance time.
I'm sure its a pretty big deal
From the bits I've read it seems sony was missing some levels of security that they should have had in place.
Hopefully this is a wake up call too other companies to protect customer's data.
It's likely credit card companies will take a wait and see approach to see who gets ripped off.. and force those victimes to jump through flaming hoops to get their money back
Worst case scenario visa / mastercard / w/e credit card company would have to reissue 40million + credit cards and that could prove quite costly.
I doubt whoever was behind the hacks would have the funds to pay for that so the bill would be to sony or sony's insurers (assuming they have insurance coverage and aren't found negligent)
Either way.. keeping the network down for an extended period of time isn't in their interests and I'd urge them to have it up within the month at some point.
Can't charge people for a service they aren't providing so they need to resolve their problems before they lose another months revenue imo ^^
this is a sad statement .you really think hackers are about little guy vs big guy?
hacking is not a victim less crime and hurts the small guy as much as any big guy .The CEOs and top exec can afford to go retire in luxury if their companies go bust(check out all the ex cEOs of failed banks living in mansions with $$$$).
This companies employ average joes and once they lose their jobs are struggling from day to day.
Want to get more personal?I can give you an example ,my friend 3 years ago opened a website to sell african wood carvings which he buys directly from african crafters and sell and donates 25% to charity.He was not making zillion $$$$ but just enough to pay his mortgage and bills and his website got hacked twice resulting in over 1 month of it been closed.
He contacted a internet security company for help and was charged £7,000 something he could barely afford as he was not making so much and had almost no buisness for 1 month.
So before you stand up and suppport hackers thinking little guy wins then think again.
No one forces you to use amazon or sony products .Loads of little guys find their services good and thus use them .Are you not hurting this people too.
Usuallly don't repeat myself but its a sad statement and you really need to go think about your views .I really wonder what kind of job you do to think any form of hacking helps little guys.
Quote please. Do not derail the discussion into bullies...