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Heya hey everyone. Just wanted to take a second to post this is the forums. After reading about SOE and their welcome back program I thought I'd see what was what. Now, just so we can get this one matter out of the way first. Say or feel whatever you want about SOE and the problems that have happened, but in my book they've handled it in a first class, top notch matter and heres why I think so. First, they admitted there was a problem. In the world we live in atm that right there should score them some points just for taking responsibility. Number 2, It's not like they're the only company to ever get hacked but at least they owned up. For petes sake, it seems like google and facebook are getting hacked every other month almost and what do we get from them, huh? "Yea, we got hacked, you're personal info is all over the place, oh @#%%^&ing well, you're problem not ours, change your password". Like I mentioned in #1, at least SOE got the info on the problem out there and did whatever they had to get it under control. Third and last, the welcome back program. I mean really? They could have just done some stupid lame "heres 1 ingame item, now bugoff" stunt but they didnt. 45 free days of play for any game you've played in the past and all sorts of buffs, boost and ingame loot/swag to go with it? Thats pretty decent in my book. Now we all know how forums work. Every troll and scrub out there with no life and with no self-esteem will always have to find something to whine about. Thats the only thing that gets them through their sad little lives. This post is for the other 98% of us real gamers out there with some brains and a real passion for gaming. That being said, on to DCU.
Okie dokie, so, got my old SOE account up and running and there it was, 45 free days of DCU, sweet. Now, just a little background into my gaming history. I'm 29 years old and grew up in what I think in my humble opinion was the golden age of gaming, the 80's. Like others my age we saw the births of some of gamings greatest icons, Mario, Mega Man and Sonic, the Pantheon of gaming gods you might say. I've played more MMO's than I would care to admit aswell, so I've been around the block a time or two. Anyways, thats what makes DCU so amazing in my book. I've seen and done just about everything I thought there was to do in a game/MMO till I got DCU booted up, and boy, did I get a nice surprise. Lets look at some of the things that caught my eye. First, the trasportation. This is just cool, that simple. Not only do you get it right off the bat but this could be the best way I've ever seen it done in a game. The mechanics are nothing new, theres alot of games that let you fly but nothing in my experience has ever really been done so well that you can almost get that gut feeling it must be like to be soaring over a city filled with highrise towers, freeways and citizens starring up at you in awe. And the city/enivorments? Amazing. So much detail and thank god, something different. not another forest/swamp/fantsy land (not that theres anything wrong with that, I love me some elves too, just nice to see something else every once and awhile, :P).
Number 2, has to be the toon creation. Sure there's other super hero games out there and we all know who they are but they just dont do it like DCU does. Take Champions, while it may be F2P, they also go out of their way to remind you how that fact right out the gate. Theres almost as many classes or as they put it "archetypes" that you CANT play that there is to play if you're a free player. Say what you want about making money and what not, but if someone goes on and on about how "Play Everything – With the exception of special Adventure Packs, all the gameplay content in Champions Online: Free for All is available to every player. Once a player enters a location within the MMO game world, nothing is off-limits!" ( btw, thats from their own website, just so you all know.) And then take away half the options unless you pay, that does not sound like all the gameplay content is open to me, and what you choose to play as is one of if not the most important part of how a game plays. Now for City of Heros/Villians. While I did enjoy my time playing that game when if first came out, after my free month I just couldnt bring myself to subscribe. The game itself not only does nothing new really but just looks bland and boring in my opinion. I just never got that feeling of really being in a breathing, moving world like I do with DCU. The graphics on a even somewhat decent comp just look freaking cool. And there is nothing cooler than being an acrobatic hero, (one of the three travel types you get, think Batman with his grappling hook or spidy with his webs.) and just roaming my city, which happens to be Metropolis Chinatown for me.
Anyways, just realized how long this is getting and what time it is, lol, so I'll cut it off there for now. Heres a challange. Dont take mine or anyone else word for it, just see it for yourself and make your own mind up about it. It may not be your cup of tea but then again it might just be what you were looking for. So on that note, you all take care and maybe I'll see you around some more in the forums.
Happy Hunting,
Urza Elent
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One of the best games and the only thing you talk about is toon creation? and a touch on 'roaming the city as an acrobat hero"?
No offence, but it sounds like you just got into the game. While I do think DCUO is a decent game, but I don't think its fair that you compare DCUO with champions online (F2P option), outside the 45 days free time, You have to pay $15USD per month to play, whilst the other requires nothing.
One major flaw of the game is the company, not because of the recent hacking, but how they priced the game. In Australia, DCUO cost AUD$69-89 for the box, with a subscription fee of $19.99 per month, yep no typo there, New Zealand is only $15.99.
I won't go into gameplay, since you provided nothing to talk about.
How much WoW could a WoWhater hate, if a WoWhater could hate WoW?
As much WoW as a WoWhater would, if a WoWhater could hate WoW.
even if they handled it top notch as you said.... i saw somebody posting a comment somewhere else and the guy was complaining about the fact that in the agreement you have to accept in order to use the ps3 with PSN the agreemant has a clause that states if SONY ever loses your personal information, they are not responsible.... i dont trust them anymore because if they lose my info due to their incompetent security and someone steals my identity then im screwed and sony washes their hands with that statement?... yeah... right.
i do like SOE games but im not playing them again, maybe after a year or so if the new security systems actually work as intended
For the money I spent, this one of the worst MMO's I have had the misfortune of investing good money in.
Its clever really, no free trial so I don't get a chance to run screaming before dropping cash on it.
lol I was simply asking why aren't you talking about anything except the toon creation, since the game is so good? kill 10 rats and kill 10 gorillas is practically the same thing really. Run and meet that scientist? sounds like run to point x to continue quest. Simply DCUO in the open world, everything is static, nothing really moves, I remember in beta, I destroyed those brainiac drones like 10 times, are they still there, oh yea they are still there, this happens in every single MMO out right now, including rift. Does this make DCUO bad? it doesn't, but it doesn't make it any better.
As for the pricing, I dunno where you look at subscription prices, but a subscription fee of $15USD is almost standard across all MMOG, I'm not saying the price box is expensive, hell I don't even need to buy a box, since my account is already activated from Beta, I'm just saying subsciption prices for EACH MONTH is 25% more expensive than the rest of the MMOG.
http://www.dcuniverseonline.com/pricing/#6 here since you like to look up prices
NOTE: This is $19.95 AUD, which is $20.95 USD, I'm almost certain the price is in AUD, unless you want to argue Czech Republic pays $350USD to play per month lol.
How much WoW could a WoWhater hate, if a WoWhater could hate WoW?
As much WoW as a WoWhater would, if a WoWhater could hate WoW.
The biggest criticism of the game is the lack of content versus the cost. You have 45 days free as part of a welcome back program, yet you've got 4 characters approximately halfway throughh the content and it's been.....less than 2 weeks? At least you're getting what you paid for....oh, right, you didn't pay. Good deal....
I plan on picking this up once the box price drops below $10.00. It might be a fun two week distraction.
The game is good. Will be better once megaservers are online and queue times are lower for pvp matches.
Great combat system and looking forward to what they add. I play on PS3 and love the feel of of the combat system, especially in PVP.
Indeed it is, and yet the only positive of the game you really mentioned was the 'flying about' above a city.
"Come and have a look at what you could have won."
Best game ever? wow, I'm surprised. I consider this game to be near the bottom.
Even by Sony standards, mind you I said Sony not SOE, this is really crap
Hell, even CO looks good compared to DCUO
Shallow, button mashing gameplay. You probably haven't played many MMOs (or games) or this is some viral campaign to try saving something that doesn't even deserve F2P
Do you have to buy the box to get the 45 days?
not that I know of, I only got into the beta and I think I was awarded 45 days as well, having used it yet, just waiting for my rift sub to finish this month first
You can download the launcher on filefront or gamefront I think.
How much WoW could a WoWhater hate, if a WoWhater could hate WoW?
As much WoW as a WoWhater would, if a WoWhater could hate WoW.
thank ya's!
I think the main problem of DCUO is still content, or better said the lack of it when you reach level cap, something that you'll reach far too quickly.
This could maybe even be a problem that you encounter within those 45 days, but then again, since the 45 days are free it's no big loss to have fun with it and then move on if the endgame fun feels to stale.
The ACTUAL size of MMORPG worlds: a comparison list between MMO's
The ease with which predictions are made on these forums:
Fratman: "I'm saying Spring 2012 at the earliest [for TOR release]. Anyone still clinging to 2011 is deluding themself at this point."
That's my thought. 45 days for free is good enough for me! I just keep the mind to use an entirely different password for my account there; no variants...
I played it a good bit over the weekend. I'd agree... OR...
...I'd say the main problem with the game is the revenue model.
The game makes for a poor MMO due to content, but a GREAT CRPG due to how the multiplayer options are scattered and the pace of combat.
While I have a much more positive view of the game after having played a good long while, I still wouldn't pay $15 a month for it. However if it was buy2play, I'd snatch it up; and odds are, I'd have snatched it up at launch.
It's a good game but SOE didn't handle a damn thing properly. Waiting forever just to make some very urgent fixes was one of the downfalls of this game. The other is the fact that there isn't enough world content at end game(imo). The game is way too much about instances, which is dumb. The best part of this game was the world pvp, but with nobody doing a damn thing in the actual world, that has died. I've logged on a few times recently and ran around both cities... almost nobody. You will be lucky to see one person.
I'm interested in seeing what the mega servers do for the game, but I'm not going to get my hopes up.
Agreed...
I bought the Game at Launch...I REALLY liked DCUO initially as a change of pace from LOTRO...I found the Combat REAL fun...But shortly after I got my 1st Toon to Level Cap I was bored with it...It just kind of happened...I still liked the Game, but I was bored...I did not feel like logging on...So it was back to LOTRO...
Then I logged on a couple weeks later to find My Server absolutely dead at 11:30 on a Saturday night...I was shocked really...I was in one of the Noob Police Stations and there was literally no one in there...I have not logged back in since...
I don't think this Game has what it takes to stand with the $15 (or so)-per-Month-Giants...From a depth perspective it falls WAY short...It's still a REAL fun Game to play for a Month or so though...
100% agreed, such a fun game, just not worth a full-price subscription.
Worst of all, now that I've tasted it, I can't go back to old-style MMO combat anymore. It just won't do
And yet, as a "buy to play" product, it's very competitive; gameplay reminds me a bit of "Hulk Unleashed" with multiplayer options and your own character. Ability systems are a bit cookie cutter(weapon ranged and close, powers, 3 movement options) for the sake of using the same controller scheme, but it still works well.
On Last Laugh, I never saw more than 2 people in a room, and I was through every station and Watchtower a number of times. It's sad, but was easy to see coming.
It has spoiled me regarding CO, with its quick response to power activation and standard attacks that are worth something more than just powering up a "real" attack. And, flight being instant toggle and looking and feeling so natural... CO feels like a first generation prototype in comparison. You'd think there were several years between their release.
But other MMO's are so much different, I doubt it effects my feeling toward them. DA2 and ME2 had no effect, DCUO won't, either.
The box costs what? $40? People whining about $15-20/mo for something that's going to keep them occupied for 20+ hours a week/month is a joke, right? Good money? Some idiots need better paper routes I guess.