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Auto color dying in pvp

KillyoxKillyox Member CommonPosts: 424

Gotta say that this is one particular thing in GW2 i can say i don't like. I would rather have some colored capes or w/e than entirely colored armor.

I don't even mind us having  to accumulate glory points for better looking armor but auto-dye is first thing on my "dislike" list.

I wonder what others think about it.

Discuss.

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  • CkekCkek Member UncommonPosts: 7

    From team capes to auto dye thing?Seriously Anet i hope this is just for the Demo.

  • ExilorExilor Member Posts: 391

    I think it's a very minor thing. And we won't have to worry about capes' colors clashing with the armors'.

  • SereliskSerelisk Member Posts: 836

    I really like it. I'm sure they'll find better iterations later on eventually, but I got an instant reminder of Halo, seeing PvP'ers dawning full red & blue. I think it's nice, personally.

  • Fir3lineFir3line Member Posts: 767

    If identifying your enemies is absolutely crucial as it is, I like it, just a quick glance and you know who is who.

     

    Ala Team Fortress

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  • An4thorAn4thor Member Posts: 524

    I don't think its only a demo feature, probably we will see the auto-dye thing also with the realease. I don't particurally hate it, since gw2 isn't divided in factions like wow its the best and easyest method to tell apart your team mates from your enemies.

  • Lord.BachusLord.Bachus Member RarePosts: 9,686
    Guildcolors should be an option for guilbased pvp groups. Next to i hope ther will also be a one cick option to switch between personal colors and guildcolors in PvE environments.

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  • KillyoxKillyox Member CommonPosts: 424

    Yeah but notice that you cummulate glory points for better looking armor. What for would i need better armor if 90% of it is either red or blue? No fun in picking colors from dye system, no fun changing stuff based on 3 color areas per item etc.

    Now don't take it wrong but wow has no coloring and people still are perfectly aware of who is the enemy.

    My [at least for now] solution ? Let enemies see colored circle over the head of enemy the size of the head while it won't be visible to allies. So we can gasp at our armors and colours and if i see dude with blue circle over head i know he is enemy, dude without it is ally etc.

    I seriously hope they do something about that.

    I also dislike blue :P

  • KillyoxKillyox Member CommonPosts: 424

    Just got  A LOT better idea yet a lot simple.

     

    Why not make only enemies appear colored to other team ?

    Say i am on the Red, i see myself and my allies normally but we see enemies Blue dyed? And they see themselves normally and us red dyed?

    Problem could rise if someone on purpose would make himelf entirely red an blue. But still a lot better than what it is now.

  • CromicaCromica Member UncommonPosts: 657

    PvP is about destroying the other players not looking good. I don't think they would use this in WvWvW anyways,get over it

  • CkekCkek Member UncommonPosts: 7

    This is wrong and imo i think theres better ways to solve this problem,imagine a teams full of Necros all in Death shroud form how will they identify each other?

    maybe they can't use capes because of Charr's tails? :)

  • An4thorAn4thor Member Posts: 524

    Originally posted by wojtekpl

    Yeah but notice that you cummulate glory points for better looking armor. What for would i need better armor if 90% of it is either red or blue? No fun in picking colors from dye system, no fun changing stuff based on 3 color areas per item etc.

    Now don't take it wrong but wow has no coloring and people still are perfectly aware of who is the enemy.

    My [at least for now] solution ? Let enemies see colored circle over the head of enemy the size of the head while it won't be visible to allies. So we can gasp at our armors and colours and if i see dude with blue circle over head i know he is enemy, dude without it is ally etc.

    I seriously hope they do something about that.

    I also dislike blue :P

    Well yea, i ask you how can you not tell apart a human from a tauren and a gnome from an orc, plus in wow you have the bar thing over the head of the chars which tell you who is horde and who is alliance.

    The colored circle which you are referring to would ruin pvp, couse it'll make it easier to an enemy to spot you around the area if you have this flashy thing above your head so... no :p

  • EzhaeEzhae Member UncommonPosts: 735

    Considering you already have the same gear, same races, etc. on both sides the colour code is needed to distinguish between team Red and team Blue. In any good game you are supposed to see who is enemy and who is ally from far away, and the auto-dye helps a lot with it. That way you can see from the top of clocktower, whenever that guy around control point at Mansion is your team or enemy. Simple as that. 

    Faction vs Factiion MMOs didn't need that because faction races looked different. You could see a difference between gnome and tauren from miles away. 

  • Fir3lineFir3line Member Posts: 767

    Originally posted by wojtekpl

    Yeah but notice that you cummulate glory points for better looking armor. What for would i need better armor if 90% of it is either red or blue? No fun in picking colors from dye system, no fun changing stuff based on 3 color areas per item etc.

    Now don't take it wrong but wow has no coloring and people still are perfectly aware of who is the enemy.

    My [at least for now] solution ? Let enemies see colored circle over the head of enemy the size of the head while it won't be visible to allies. So we can gasp at our armors and colours and if i see dude with blue circle over head i know he is enemy, dude without it is ally etc.

    I seriously hope they do something about that.

    I also dislike blue :P

    WoW has diferent races for each side, and Rated BG's where you can face the same race is a nightmare to see ppl from great distances, its just easy to have huge nameplates once you get closer, arena doesnt really count as you are quite aware who your teammates are and their positions, and if you dont then you shouldnt do arena at all. Also notice that in GW2 there are more skills that are action based, meaning you dont need a target to activate them, like you can be on your way to the elementalist in the back and go thro a warrior and just cleave him etc.

     

    Its just nice to have colors like this overall, pvp is not about looking awesome anyway

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  • KenaoshiKenaoshi Member UncommonPosts: 1,022

    Well i like the way it is. Makes more easy to identify the enemy in the carnival that bgs are.

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  • daniel!!!daniel!!! Member Posts: 400

    Originally posted by wojtekpl

    Gotta say that this is one particular thing in GW2 i can say i don't like. I would rather have some colored capes or w/e than entirely colored armor.

    I don't even mind us having  to accumulate glory points for better looking armor but auto-dye is first thing on my "dislike" list.

    I wonder what others think about it.

    Discuss.

     Biggest problem with it is spell casters all look the same, when i saw one pvp video with a necro then the other as an ele i was like :/ apart from the giant balls of fire shooting out of the ele but the colour is a pain. i wanna be on a team but look individual too

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  • Fir3lineFir3line Member Posts: 767

    having in mind what I said earlier, I would not mind that if ppl dont find this enjoying for their gaming experience that they give you the option to turn the auto dye system of on your end, have in mind that oponents might have a slight advantage over you, but would be your own risk.

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  • BhorzoBhorzo Member Posts: 192

    I like the auto-dyeing. I think they can probably tweak it, but I like the concept and hope they keep it. It makes sense for competitve PVP.

  • KillyoxKillyox Member CommonPosts: 424

    Like someone said, we shouldhave at least option to disable auto-dye on our end. Meaning everyne else but us see us as red/blue.

    I will be surprised if they don't do it.

     

    EDIT:

    i haven't played wow since January [after 6 years you grow tired] and it totally slipped my mind races are different for purpose of recognition haha.

  • OmgZombiesOmgZombies Member Posts: 141

    PvP isn't about looking flashy, you should only worry about looking good when you stand in town or wait for your group to start a pull in a dungeon.

     I want them to keep it because it's about identifying your enemy instantly, having a red name above their head isn't enough sometimes, especially in close quarters.

  • RazephonRazephon Member UncommonPosts: 628

    Lol those strong colored dyes take me back to my UT2003/UT2004 days where the Pro scene had everyone colored in neon blue or red :D :D

    Make them glow and it will be perfect!!!

    Currently waiting for the MMO industry to put out something good.
  • mafia514mafia514 Member Posts: 148

    Oki why do u need rewards than ( armor skins) if no one gonna see (clearly) what armor (skin)u have since its all blue/red?

    I rather spend my points on weapons and titles...

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  • AlotAlot Member Posts: 1,948

    Would any of you prefer for example a glow around your character, indicating your allegiance, rather than your armor being dyed blue/red?

  • PalebanePalebane Member RarePosts: 4,011

    Same color armor is one of the less-obtrusive ways to tell friend from foe in large 3-way PvP battles; Much less obtrusive than nameplates or big flags sticking out of players' backs. For PvE, I prefer highly customizable armor.

     

    I agree that individuality is not that important for PvP, but there a ton of players playing TF2 that would disagree with me. Just because players' armor is the same color, doesn't mean you can't be individual based on your weapons or head-gear or something.

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  • RequiamerRequiamer Member Posts: 2,034

    Well at least they confirmed in the last interviewed posted here that you will keep your toon in the WvWvW.  Also maybe you should be able to use all the red dyes if you are in the red team, and use the reskin stuff. In any case its not that important, but it would be better if you can at least keep some of your real toon personality. I think you should be able to spot on the best pvper by their outfit, i don't know i think it would be nice. And ye you could have a small flag on your back or something that would let you keep your original toon visual, i don't think the aura would be that nice and a cape wouldnt be much visible from front, but they maybe can find a good alternative if they really need to.

  • DJJazzyDJJazzy Member UncommonPosts: 2,053

    I really don't see the big deal in this, and it only applies in competitive pvp.

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