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Arrested for Selling Lemonade - That's Absurd
victahdoom27
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Stupid teenagers are stupid. They should've actually done some digging and actually learned that they needed a permit to sell something in DC.
As ridiculous as it is to need a permit, they were breaking the law and did not heed instructions from the police to cease and desist.
They were all probably charged with disorderly conduct. It's their fault, not the cop's.
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Online transient vendor permit from Wash DC, cost $0, must be completed prior to any activity which requires a sales tax.
Vendor permit for food on the Washington Mall from National Park Service, cost $50, must be completed prior.
3 minutes online to discover this information and 15 minutes to fill out forms and submit.
The way this video is set up these people went there to get arrested. These were people with a very obvious agenda. I feel absolutely no pitty for people who set themselves up for something like this. They were screeming "this is your tax dollars!" while they were being arrested. They were the ones wasting the police's time and any tax dollars spent by purposely doing this in the first place. Stupidity at it's finest.
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Due to their sheer stupidity, I hope the judge throws the book at them (figuratively) and gives them the maximum fine for whatever law they ended up breaking and being charged for. Not jail time... but fines. Fines = the ultimate form of punishment for people who break the law while claiming "This is what you taxpayer money is for?"
EDIT: Oh, and all of the money from the lemoade stand should be seized by the DC police as profits from an illegal activity.
glad they got what was coming to them, stupid people should be arrested for doing stupid things.
I was expecting it to be little kids...
Got the companies arrested aswell who are doing business in Iran, even there are trade restrictions ? Ordinary Joe get busted, like always...
First: DC Police have exactly what to do with your first statement? That's right... nothing.
Second: No, these stupid teenagers weren't "Ordinary Joes". They were trying to make an anti-government statement. One that horribly backfired due to their stupidity on not doing their research on the requirements to sell things in DC. Now, they've been arrested and will face charges and, I hope, steep fines.
Wow man, you really want punishment to go hard on this. I suppose if you was ever taken as a hostage you wouldn't want anyone to wish something bad happen to you in that situation. What is wrong with you?
What does being taken hostage have to do with being arrested for not applying for and paying $50.00 for a temporary sales liscense? They were told to stop violating a law. They chose to continue to violate the law. They were then arreested for doing so.
Yes I understand that. People don't think about the principle behind things do they? That was the whole point.
I"m going to now assume your reply was an attempt to agree with Vato through the use of sarcasm rather than my interpretation of it being a lack of rational thought.
Apparently you are the one that doesn't understand the principle of the punishment that I hope they receive. This post will clear it up for you: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/4413528
Another great example of Moore's Law. Give people access to that much space (developers and users alike) and they'll find uses for it that you can never imagine. "640K ought to be enough for anybody" - Bill Gates 1981
"Dissent justifies oppression"
Give me liberty or give me lasers
i decided to watch that video...they should have beat them for being morons.
"omg they are fighting for freedom", no they aren't.
I love how all these people tink police are evil (which some are) but then when some real shit goes down they are like "omg please help me police" if you don't like the cops i hope you never call them for help.
"The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand."
- Lewis Thomas
There was no oppression here. The stupid teenagers didn't do their work beforehand to understand that they needed a permit to sell things in DC. Then, they complained about the laws because they were too lazy and stupid to not have gotten a permit in the first place. Then, they got punished for their laziness and stupidity by getting arrested due to breaking the law.
There was dissent... but no oppression.
I disagree. They were being oppressed. I agree with the officer, their issue is with the lawmakers, not the enforcers. There is no place for victimless crime in a free nation. Sure they were doing a lemonade protest, but I think they should to get their point across. At one time in this nation anyone could sell lemonade. If there was a victim from their lemonade selling that would be different, it is just an unecessary loss of freedom. If there is no victim, there should be no crime.
EDIT: a $50 permit to sell lemonade? LOL! Where would a kid selling ten cent lemonade get $50 for a permit? Oh yea this was intended to keep them from doing so by making it unprofitable. Sad. Another example of ridiculous restrictions on the poor trying to start a business. No wonder we don't see lemonade stands on every corner anymore and people are dying of dehydration.
Why should anyone do research to sell lemonade? That in itself is absurd.
No this is 2011 where by now we should realize that ridiculous oppressive laws that are only in place to oppress the people should no longer be tolerated. There is a Huge difference between now and the 1900's. People should be educated in this day in age enough to realize the difference between freedom and oppression. They were not lazy, they knew the rules, they were PROTESTING the unjust law. Sometimes when you disagree with a law, the only way to get it changed is to openly oppose it, and when necessary publicy break it to show the ignorance of the law itself. The founders of this nation were all considered outlaws because they had to break the laws in order to change them. I believe this is one of those circumstances. If kids started opening up lemonade stands on every corner in this nation, would the government then go around arresting all the children, or come to the realization this law needs to be changed? They were making a point. Did you not notice their childish dress? That was their messege.
" The cost of doing business" in the US is a huge part of the reason this nation is in crisis. It is at the core of the problem, not the solution. At one time, desperate people trying to make a life for themselves could do so very easily in this nation, but due to oppressive regulations that is no longer the case. At one time if you needed to feed your family, you could use whatever resources you had available to try and pull yourself up, now they put too many unecessary obstacles in the way so the only way poor people can get started is by becoming lawbreakers. I am surprised you missed that messge in all of this.
They were taking it to the lawmakers. Look at their location. It isn;t like the lawmakers would ever read their letters or care, no they had to do something drastic, such as getting arrested and videotaping it to get their cause noticed. That was the entire point of why they went there to lose money on lemonade since selling it for $0.10 when it obviously costs more would not be in the best interest of a business venture. LOL
I can't wait till this law is repealed so people can set up a giant flea market on the capitol lawn.
I mean... America is already 3rd world right now right?
"You have some serious mental issues you may need to seek some help for. There are others who post things, but do not post them in the way you do. Out of every person who posts crazy shit in this forum, you have some of the craziest and scariest" -FarReach
The solution is to solve the poverty problem by allowing people to do for themselves, not just send them out to the woods to starve.
Solve the problem, not just hide it under the rug.
If people are setting up flea markets on the capitol lawn, it is because they have no other choice. Provide choices so they won;t need to.
The solution is to solve the poverty problem by allowing people to do for themselves, not just send them out to the woods to starve.
Solve the problem, not just hide it under the rug.
If people are setting up flea markets on the capitol lawn, it is because they have no other choice. Provide choices so they won;t need to.
So you are supporting the idea of flea markets springing up everywhere then? With no legal recorse such as a permit system to clean things up legally?Another great example of Moore's Law. Give people access to that much space (developers and users alike) and they'll find uses for it that you can never imagine. "640K ought to be enough for anybody" - Bill Gates 1981
People can make whatever rules they wish for their own private property. There is no need for victimless crimes. Public property should belong to all of the public, not just the select few that want to impose their beliefs onto others.
Fleamarkets spring up everywhere when the people have no other means to make a living. If we allow them to do for themselves and create better business opportunities, the flea markets will subside.
I look at it this way, the flea markets are a symptom of a larger problem. solve the big problem of people being able to provide for themselves and the poor working the flea markets will no longer need to do so. Those working flea markets have very hard work. I am sure they would much rather have a more humane job with airconditioning, heating, a bathroom where they do not have to fear going to the bathroom or eating because if they do their goods will be stolen.
Of course I see flea markets as an unsightly irritation, but I also realize they would not be there if they had other means. Solve that, and you solve the problem, not just push them aside and pretend they do not exist. The " out of sight, out of mind" mentality on this is part of the problem, not the solution.