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So..i'm gunna try this game out again

LordMagnusLordMagnus Member CommonPosts: 1,322

Last time i tried the game, it lagged so badly that it was just unplayable. The thing is that my computer specs far surpass the reccomended system requirements....well i heard that the lag might be caused by outdated graphic card drivers so i updated them and am currently installing AO.

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  • RavenmgsRavenmgs Member Posts: 155

    Laggs worse on my computer then EQ2 cranked to full settings. I'm currently running on a 3.2 ghz p4, 6800 Ultra OC and 1gb of ram. I quit playing about 2-3 months ago, a friend who used to play the game told me they made it run allot smoother. Thats fine and all, but the game it's self still has more buggs then you can shake a stick at, I would stay away from anything with Funcom on it.

  • LeasaLeasa Member Posts: 449



    Originally posted by Ravenmgs

    Laggs worse on my computer then EQ2 cranked to full settings. I'm currently running on a 3.2 ghz p4, 6800 Ultra OC and 1gb of ram. I quit playing about 2-3 months ago, a friend who used to play the game told me they made it run allot smoother. Thats fine and all, but the game it's self still has more buggs then you can shake a stick at, I would stay away from anything with Funcom on it.



    Laggs worse than EQII on full setting ???  Really, I find that hard to believe.  I used tp play AO with a 1.6 ghz machine with 512 meg of ram and a G force 4 and the only place I lagged was when I got near RBB or Old Athens hill.  And that was with a modem.  I fought many tower battles with quite a few players around and the performance was very good. 

    There are bugs but I never had any real problems with them.


     

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  • EduardoASGEduardoASG Member Posts: 832

    Anarchy online was a good game at its time.. wich unfortunaly is long gone.

    AO has one of the worst graphic engines in mmorpg gaming industry at the time.
    AO is full of.. bugs aswel. Countless of them to be more precise.
    AO is laggy even if you have a top PC system. Get together with 50 or 60 players and youll see.

    AO customer support was the worst ever, maybe even worst than SOE. Funcom never cared abouot players, just for cash, and now they getting the feedback they deserve.

    Aion, AoC, AC, AO, DDO, Eve, Eq2, GW, MW3, L1&2, RF, RIFT, SWG, SWTOR, TR, UO, WOW, WAR
  • HeartBrokenHeartBroken Member Posts: 128

    ya go ahead whateveer I dun care: I just want to post a whole lot!!!!!!!

  • MaxxxMaxxx Member UncommonPosts: 389


    Originally posted by EduardoASG
    Anarchy online was a good game at its time.. wich unfortunaly is long gone.AO has one of the worst graphic engines in mmorpg gaming industry at the time.
    AO is full of.. bugs aswel. Countless of them to be more precise.
    AO is laggy even if you have a top PC system. Get together with 50 or 60 players and youll see.AO customer support was the worst ever, maybe even worst than SOE. Funcom never cared abouot players, just for cash, and now they getting the feedback they deserve.

    obviously you havent played the game very long
  • EduardoASGEduardoASG Member Posts: 832

    Actually i did play it for over 1 year. long enough

    Aion, AoC, AC, AO, DDO, Eve, Eq2, GW, MW3, L1&2, RF, RIFT, SWG, SWTOR, TR, UO, WOW, WAR
  • meakymeaky Member Posts: 14


    Originally posted by EduardoASG
    AO is laggy even if you have a top PC system. Get together with 50 or 60 players and youll see.

    Yeah, I got the free classic version, looked up the system reqs, I was way passed them, got in the game, get about 3fps on low settings. Shame..::::07::

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  • IvanRashnuIvanRashnu Member Posts: 178

    Well, Anarchy Online is worth trying and playing. AO is not a perfect game, as some posters said, it doesn't have good graphics, it's sowewhat laggy (somewhat cause I don't lag that much, not a nightmare).It has bugs,however, day by day they're reported and fixed with patches.I can say Shadowlands environment is much better than Rubi-Ka. You can find many funny aspects to see and enjoy in the game. Alien Raids and Notum Towers Wars are always funny. Hunting for dynabosses is also funny for me. What might frustrate you except the issues have been mentioned previous posts in this thread is grinding for high levels and 2.5K token board. It's worth trying. Download and play ::::28::

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  • daeandordaeandor Member UncommonPosts: 2,695

    I can't look at people blasting AO without making a comment.  AO still is a very good game.  It had decent second generation graphics and mechanics for an MMO.  It has decent storyline.  Decent quests, crafting, etc etc.  No it is not an overly sophisticated game.  It has lag issues, but the descriptions people make of 5fps are over-exhaggerations.  Either they don't know how to tune the settings to maximize performance or there is something wrong with their machine.  If I can run at 25fps (Big screen movies are run at 24fps) in high concentration areas with a 3 year old 1.3G/512M ram/64M Vid card system and they have trouble with *any* system bought within the last year, something is seriously wrong with what they are doing.

    The best thing about AO right now is that it is free.  Genuinely free for several more months.  If you are looking for a game that will keep you entertained for several months, AO will definately work if you like the space/future genre.  The UI takes some serious getting used to, but it is not as bad as it used to be.  The learning curve is only moderate, not as steep as say, Eve Online, but not as easy as WoW or Guild Wars.  Somewhere around SWG difficulty with a less robust graphics engine and ui.

    Anyone thinking about trying AO, I say go for it.  Give the game about 3 weeks before you decide to quit, as you don't start figuring anything out until you have done some stuff outside of the newb locations.

  • SiphonsSiphons Member Posts: 445


    Originally posted by EduardoASG

    AO customer support was the worst ever, maybe even worst than SOE. Funcom never cared abouot players, just for cash, and now they getting the feedback they deserve.


    I have to disagree. In fact, I can't think of a game with a better customer support system than AO. Once you've made your first character, they send a person TO YOU, to help you with any immediate questions about the game, and even show you around.
    Then, if you experience any problems at all, you're encouraged to send for a helper to try and straighten things out, be it bugs or even abuse from other players. They don't just tell you to /ignore abusive players, they observe the guy and then scare him with a warning! (repeat offenders are promptly banned).
    All of the volunteer helpers, must go through multiple extensive sessions of training before being a full advisor (the guy that comes out when you call for help). I can only recall one occasion when a volunteer went bezerk (warping poor newbs into acid pools and the like). It was promptly taken care of.
    I felt I had to take the time to retort, since I was once an Advisor of Ark, and those are the most friendly people you'll ever meet! Don't ever compare AO or Funcom to SOE ever again.

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  • EmilinEmilin Member Posts: 94

    Yeap. It's actualy true. You get greeted by a REAL person when you first login with a new account. Takes some time (30-40 minutes before they actualy get to you). And they will walk you through most everything in the newbie island and help as much as they can even for some later levels.

    As for the lag, WTF? I mainly play AO on my laptop because my laptop isn't that great and the fact that my laptop can actualy play the damn thing and it's portable (AO on-the-go :D).
    Here are the specs: 256MD SDRAM, 1.3 GhZ Pentium Celeron, 60MB nVidia GeForce 4.
    The only time I lag is when there are a lot of players in an area (tower wars, GM events, or alien raids).
    And you are telling me with those specs the AO lags worse then EQ2?

    AO has it's flaws, sure it's not perfect, but it's overall a very good and solid MMO that doesen't appeal to everyone (just like very other MMO).

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  • RavenmgsRavenmgs Member Posts: 155

    I played AO for about 3 years, so I’m going to take apart some of the bs people are saying here.



    . AO still is a very good game.
    How do you define “good” as in something that totally sucks? Perhaps you mean the game it’s self is not “evil” and is “good”. I can agree the game has no satanic or darkness about it, but the game play has to be one of the worst games in gaming history. At the higher levels you do nothing but smash hecklers for hours on end to level up. Many professions have primary skills that just don’t work. Imagine if in EQ2 or WOW the mages just woke up one morning and the nukes were turned off because they were so buggy the zone crashed. This is something you will deal with on a regular if not perpetual basis on AO.



    It had decent second generation graphics and mechanics for an MMO

    The 3D models and textures them selves, are quite well done, the graphics ENGINE is coded by monkeys. As I stated earlier, I can run EQ2 on full settings better then AO. Someone made a comment about them being able to run it fine on 56k and on a 1.6 ghz PC. I think this is hilarious, either you played on RK3 where there are no people, or you are simply lying your ass off. Go to anyone who’s been to a large tower raid, panda raid or any other high person count raids and you will have people on DSL dropping from timing out. Also, even IF you don’t drop do to time out, AO will oftentimes have server crashes, this is really great when you just spent 3 hours getting to a boss mob and the server drops you and you loose all the loot. Ok, so, here’s your sign. AO will run like crap on any system, while EQ2 will perform nicely on higher end systems, AO hits a wall around 1ghz and just doesn't get any better do to the fact their graphics engine is morph mystery meat.


    It has decent storyline. Decent quests, crafting, etc etc.
    The storyline DOESN’T EXIST, it existed (note the past tense on that word). The whole “shadowlands” thing starts out with some interesting ideas, quest, and an intriguing storyline. When you get into the game, the storyline litteraly disappears as you play it, the higher level zones feel like an unfinished afterthought. The great “story line” you talk about was never explained (why was the shadow lands falling apart? Who is the guardian at the source? Where is Camelot? What is Excalibur’s End? Where the hell is Phillip Ross? It’s a really sad game situation where everything feels like an early beta where the programmers are trying to make the story up as they go along and just kind of forget

    It has lag issues, but the descriptions people make of 5fps are over-exhaggerations.
    Lag issues, as in they had to refund everyone’s money for the first three months into their launch because the game was SO unstable it had more down time then up time, literally.

    Either they don't know how to tune the settings to maximize performance or there is something wrong with their machine. If I can run at 25fps (Big screen movies are run at 24fps) in high concentration areas with a 3 year old 1.3G/512M ram/64M Vid card system and they have trouble with *any* system bought within the last year, something is seriously wrong with what they are doing.
    Have you actually ever checked your FPS? Or do you only hang out in the backyards? Nvidia GeForce 6800 Ultra OC with 3.2ghz p4 and a gb of ram and I drop down to 5-10 fps in inferno and pandemonium regularly, especially at raids. You can even ask the devs (who I have worked with when I was part of the Professionals / QA team) and they will tell you they have no clue how the game is coded, they hired their coders and then fired them later in the game do to the fact they are poor as dirt because their game sucks and couldn’t afford them, so no one at Funcom actually knows how AO’s graphic engine is coded, the more stuff they add the more laggy and crappy it becomes and there is no place to go from here but down.

    I hate misinformation and will correct it when ever I see it.

    This game is crap of the most ultimate kind. It’s developed in a socialist country where they get a paycheck no matter what they do, so the game degenerates into crap while it’s supported by its government. Stay away from this game at all cost, I wasted allot of time on this game because it has some addictive competitive elements like KS wars and tower battles, get Lineage 2 or WOW, they are both far superior products and neither of which have their dev’s living on welfare.


    I have to disagree. In fact, I can't think of a game with a better customer support system than AO. Once you've made your first character, they send a person TO YOU, to help you with any immediate questions about the game, and even show you around.
    Then, if you experience any problems at all, you're encouraged to send for a helper to try and straighten things out, be it bugs or even abuse from other players. They don't just tell you to /ignore abusive players, they observe the guy and then scare him with a warning! (repeat offenders are promptly banned).
    All of the volunteer helpers, must go through multiple extensive sessions of training before being a full advisor (the guy that comes out when you call for help). I can only recall one occasion when a volunteer went bezerk (warping poor newbs into acid pools and the like). It was promptly taken care of.
    I felt I had to take the time to retort, since I was once an Advisor of Ark, and those are the most friendly people you'll ever meet! Don't ever compare AO or Funcom to SOE ever again.

    This person is part of their extremely corrupt voluntary player run support “Volunteer GM” program. That’s right, they let idiots become GM’s, you will be calling a GM and you will have some buffoon who can’t find his ass with both hands and hasn’t leveled past the lobbied zones trying to help you complete a broken high level quest, restore lost items, or help with a bad spawn, of course this often results more often then not in a “sorry, I can’t help you because I don’t know what the hell your talking about and I just want to fly around on my free GM toon and get a free expansion account for being a idiot”.

    The person they send to you is worthless and crap, the EQ2 tutorial blows away any ARK greeter newb, they don’t know what the hell their talking about 9 times out of 10 and this position needs to be filled by someone who actually know what the hell is going on to get the person started off on the right foot. Can you imagine ego-newbs trying to help out new players get their footing? This game is no tutorials similar to any game, and places their new players completely in the hands of some reject idiot who 9 times out of 10 doesn’t even play the game regularly and just enjoys flying around on their GM toon.

    Yes, they don’t tell you to /ignore “abusive” players, they actually have banned entire guilds for being “too competitive”, that’s right, if you are better then someone these SOCICALIST BASTARDS will make damn sure you don’t stay that way for long. If you are dominating PVP or a Boss spawn to much, they will ban you. Secondly, if a player with a volunteer GM character doesn’t like you, they will get on their GM toon and report you for doing things you never did, it’s a really great system.

    They actually have used their GM toons to defend their play-characters land control pvp areas. They kept warping people away and warping boss npc’s into their tower clusters thus killing the attackers. There have been so many counts of abuse on behalf of this program it’s sickening.

    SOE blows Funcom away, they are a professional, legitimate, capitalistic organization that realizes pleasing customers is in their best interest and are not given to going off on idealistic crusades against their customers.

    P.S.

    TAG has alwayse sucked sense it lost it's old prez. You might of changed your name back to MoK but you still don't earn up to the name.

  • SiphonsSiphons Member Posts: 445

    ::::18:: I've never heard of any of Those things going on, but I remember everyone being very professional, curteous, and helpful! i suppose I can't comment on how it's run today, since I was an advisor pre notum wars. It's still hard to imagine anything you're saying about them is true though. It took a lot of dedication from me to get In, which naturally channels out the leet noobs and such. By the way, I don't know where you heard of arks defending towers, but it's technically infeasable, with the gm+1 status, player or monster interaction isn't possible, so they can't attack anything or anyone.


    Pardon me for getting in the middle of YOUR crusade, but lets try to stick to facts, eh?

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    All you friggin suburban white kid wannabe poobutts that are in love with G-Unit are sad and pathetic. Find your own identity ::::28:: -Anarchyart

  • LeasaLeasa Member Posts: 449






     

    The 3D models and textures them selves, are quite well done, the graphics ENGINE is coded by monkeys. As I stated earlier, I can run EQ2 on full settings better then AO. Someone made a comment about them being able to run it fine on 56k and on a 1.6 ghz PC. I think this is hilarious, either you played on RK3 where there are no people, or you are simply lying your ass off. Go to anyone who’s been to a large tower raid, panda raid or any other high person count raids and you will have people on DSL dropping from timing out. Also, even IF you don’t drop do to time out, AO will oftentimes have server crashes, this is really great when you just spent 3 hours getting to a boss mob and the server drops you and you loose all the loot. Ok, so, here’s your sign. AO will run like crap on any system, while EQ2 will perform nicely on higher end systems, AO hits a wall around 1ghz and just doesn't get any better do to the fact their graphics engine is morph mystery meat.


    I hate misinformation and will correct it when ever I see it.


    No I am not lying.  I played on RK2 (Rimor). From the tone of your post I can tell you must have some kind of grudge against AO. 

    I also hate misinformation. 

    And why do you bring politics into this.  Take a deep breath and relax, if you dont live in Norway why do you care ??


     

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  • RavenmgsRavenmgs Member Posts: 155

    If by politics you mean the way people think and the way they survive, then it’s an integral part of understanding the behavior of any group of people, and must be examined. A game company that just doesn’t fix massive holes in their game can’t survive in a normal environment, it can only survive if you are putting it on welfare, and that’s exactly what Funcom is on, you can read their business pages to see where their governments bank keep funneling money into them only to see it disappear.

    I reread your post, and its plane to see you were never in any high lag areas. If you lagged at teaming areas such as Old Athens Hill and Rome Blue Basic, then you would have been in a slide show in Inferno or any large raid mob or tower. I don’t know if there were significantly less people on RK2 then there were when I made a toon on that dem, there will be so many people in a zone the zone will literally crash now. The way people operate is they select the caller and just assist with an aimed shot weapon, which totally kills the experience for melee players.

    As for Siphons, I don’t know much about the ARK program pre-notum wars except for the fact it still had people who didn’t know about, or play the game seriously, trying to help high level players solve issues, and they did a horrible job of it and never resolved issues, I'm not saying they were bad people, they just were not qualafied for the task . I know for a fact the corruption wasn’t there pre-notumwars, or at least not as bad pre-notum wars, because allot of the groups that control ARK now didn’t exist then. However, now you have low level RP guilds who have at max level 80 toons, if you get in their way or displease them on their in-game toon, they will or their friend will sign on an ark and write you up for made up or greatly exaggerated reasons. I actually got a fiew of them removed before I quit, I have some friends in ARK who monitored the ARK chat and logged them bragging about how they were going to do such and such to me for harassing (by harassing I mean KSing, following, or dancing on them, all of which are not punishable actions ) their play character.

    The problem is, the good ARKs are so few that there is no real way to monitor the bad behavior unless you have someone with an un-biased view monitoring the 24/7 which is something Funcom can’t afford. The only way they can monitor ARKs 24/7 is when they set off certain alarms and do things that are logged, unfortunately there is no real way to real all the chat logs in the ARK chat, so they generally are able to do what ever they want and gloat about it to their buddies.
    This game is a mad house, stay away from it.

  • daeandordaeandor Member UncommonPosts: 2,695
    Ravenmgs, you must have a grudge against AO after feeling you "wasted" 3 years or something.  The game is by no means "fine", but I stand by what I said earlier.  Judging a games "lag" by their refund 3 years ago is idiotic.  There are SL zones that lag, true.  Raids can severely lag, true.  I know what I saw, and you are overexaggerating.  And fps was a displayable option on the new UI.  Did I ever have less than 5 fps?  Yes.  Did I ever have rubberbanding? Yes.  Did mobs ever warp?  Yes.  But name 1 mmorpg that you have played that NEVER had those problems.  EQ has always had these problems, EQ2 definately has these problems, SWG has these problems, DAOC has these problems, WOW has these problems, Guild Wars has these problems, every game has these problems and AO is not *really* that much worse than the others.  I just have a feeling that Ravenmgs played to high end content in AO but has not seen the same frustrating things in the other games yet, but he will.  I do not play AO anymore either, but the OP wanted to know if they should try it out.  I say go for it, it is not that bad a game.
  • RavenmgsRavenmgs Member Posts: 155

    Never lagged at a raid in EQ2 on reasonable settings, never diped below 5fps, and I only rubber band and have mob warping when I have bit torrent or some other file share program going. Same story with SWG and Guild Wars. I can’t speak for DOAC because I never played it.

    AO is above and beyond the worst rubber banding, mob warping, clipping errors, lagging, zone crashing, boss bugging, broken skill, broken item, broken armor, broken spawn, imbalanced game ever made by a commercial company.

    I say it's a bad game to invest time into because the company really dislikes their customers, and that’s never a good thing. I've personally heard how the dev's talk about the test teams and customers and its really amazing how much they look down on them, they all have God complexes.

    If by having a "grudge" against AO, you mean I am pissed off at the company for their behavior? The yes, I have a horrible grudge against AO, and after putting tons of work into the QA team, Professionals Programs and Bug Hunters / Council of Testers, and to have the Dev's not show a real response to any of your work is enough to piss off anyone. This game is full of borks and bugs, and they wont fix them no - matter what, and it pisses me off horribly, and SHOULD piss off anyone who pays for the game.

  • StarkStark Member Posts: 119

    Ravenmgs   The dictionary shows that you are an SOE fanboi. You must be a respected SWG forums member "cough" and wanna-be DEV (it will never happen so let go). SOE is the worst comapny in the history of MMORPG's yet all you can do is stand at attention when you hear that a new pile of crap EQ2 expansion is coming out.

    Funcom is all about the players and they have a dedicated helpful staff and community. AO has more to do in it than all of SOE's games combined but since the graphics don't compare all you and your clones can do is bash it. You played AO for 3 years and now come around the corner and throw out negative remarks about this great game? You must have liked it at some point or you would have never stuck with it for so long. Get over yourself.

    I've played MMORPG's since the original UO came out and AO is the only one that I've stuck with since 2002.

    You will not bash Funcom as long as I'm around.

    Sure there is lag but show me an online game without any lag. No I thought so.

  • krekenkreken Member UncommonPosts: 139



    Originally posted by Stark

    Ravenmgs   The dictionary shows that you are an SOE fanboi. You must be a respected SWG forums member "cough" and wanna-be DEV (it will never happen so let go). SOE is the worst comapny in the history of MMORPG's yet all you can do is stand at attention when you hear that a new pile of crap EQ2 expansion is coming out.
    Funcom is all about the players and they have a dedicated helpful staff and community. AO has more to do in it than all of SOE's games combined but since the graphics don't compare all you and your clones can do is bash it. You played AO for 3 years and now come around the corner and throw out negative remarks about this great game? You must have liked it at some point or you would have never stuck with it for so long. Get over yourself.
    I've played MMORPG's since the original UO came out and AO is the only one that I've stuck with since 2002.
    You will not bash Funcom as long as I'm around.
    Sure there is lag but show me an online game without any lag. No I thought so.



    Stark  The dictionary shows that you are AO fanboi. image
    Not too bash AO as I had a good time in my 2.5 years, you gotta agree with Ravenmgs on some points. I have not seen rubberbanding and lag as bad as in AO in any other game besides SB maybe. During tower fights in Mort, the whole zone crashes repeatedly; Pande raids where you cant bring more then a certain amount of people or the zone will crash, maybe it got fixed now, dont know; faction raids in inferno; abyss in adonis, alien attacks on cities, tara fights with clammers with zone crashes and etc. Rubber banding starts on the newbie island, right when you get out of your ship and start swimming to the land; when you enter adonis through underwatter passage and don't take off your scuba gear underwater...

    ARK's are a different story. I met a lot of good arks. For example, when I deleted Azure helmet by an accident 2 hours after I got it, after petition ARK contacted GM and he restored it for me, GM was laughing his ass off though. (it was waaaay before SL came out.)

    Bugs. Heh, a lot of them. Many of them are not game stopping but still annoying and you know that as well as I do.

    There were some changes that devs made based on player suggestions like cru's, increased drop rate on some items like nippy. But remember when people who were selected to beta test AI, stopped login in to test server because they realized devs are not listening to their bug reports. I know a good amount of people who did that. If they listened, perhaps AI wouldn't be as buggy and unbalanced as it is right now.

    With all that, AO is still a good game and I would recommend it to try it out but Stark, you know as well as I do that what Ravenmgs said is mostly true. He just said it in harsh words.

  • RavenmgsRavenmgs Member Posts: 155


    Originally posted by Stark
    Ravenmgs The dictionary shows that you are an SOE fanboi.

    That’s very interesting, considering I don’t currently pay for a SOE account and don’t plan on ever returning to any SOE game because the frankly are quite boring. If AO worked, i.e. wasn’t coded by monkeys, had “some” bugs fixed, didn’t have the worst graphics engine ever, and a horrible dev team which isn’t even the original dev team that made the game, didn’t have two cramped servers, and so on and so fourth, it would have far superior game play to any SOE game, hence why I played It for 3 years.


    Originally posted by Stark
    You must be a respected SWG forums member "cough" and wanna-be DEV (it will never happen so let go). SOE is the worst company in the history of MMORPG's yet all you can do is stand at attention when you hear that a new pile of crap EQ2 expansion is coming out.

    Played SWG for about 2 months and got horribly bored with it, but the game functionality is far superior to that of AO, AO is like something some college kids threw together in their spare time coding / bug wise. As far as being a “wana-be DEV” I am a paid game tester for Simutronics, while they have their faults they actually want to make a good game for nothing else other then the sake of making lots of money. I would never become a game-dev, making games and playing games are two VERY different activities, not to mention unless you really strike gold, game dev’s don’t get paid jack or shit, and jack left town.


    Originally posted by Stark
    Funcom is all about the players and they have a dedicated helpful staff and community. AO has more to do in it than all of SOE's games combined but since the graphics don't compare all you and your clones can do is bash it. You played AO for 3 years and now come around the corner and throw out negative remarks about this great game? You must have liked it at some point or you would have never stuck with it for so long. Get over yourself.

    As stated earlier, the concept behind the game play mechanics of AO are great and haven’t been matched to date, as far as the “dedicated helpful staff”, can you stick your tongue further up their asses? Are you high? I literally worked with these people; they are all on pot and stay perpetually drunk, not to mention they talk horrible shit about their players and testers. They literally will not read or respond to tester bug reports and literally gloat and laugh about not looking at them.


    Originally posted by Stark
    I've played MMORPG's since the original UO came out and AO is the only one that I've stuck with since 2002.
    You will not bash Funcom as long as I'm around.
    Sure there is lag but show me an online game without any lag. No I thought so.

    I will bash Funcom when ever it deserves it, and Funcom has done nothing but deserve bashing. How about instead of tossing Funcom’s salad and telling me how much I love SOE, come up with some real points next time. You are a stereotypical AO fan boy and probably an ARK or a idiot on the CoT , I shudder to think about how badly the professionals program is doing if someone of your though capacity has wormed their way in.


    Originally posted by kreken
    ARK's are a different story. I met a lot of good arks. For example, when I deleted Azure helmet by an accident 2 hours after I got it, after petition ARK contacted GM and he restored it for me, GM was laughing his ass off though. (it was waaaay before SL came out.)

    while I have some personal friends who are ARKs, the vast majority of them are dick-wads and I get to hear all about it regularly. Also, they stopped restoring deleted items a while ago, was nice when it lasted. However, there are small RP guilds who are all ARK members and constantly abuse their ARK powers to at very least dirty up people’s AO records. This is a major area of the game that needs fixing and I don’t think FC has any intention of addressing this.


    Originally posted by kreken
    Bugs. Heh, a lot of them. Many of them are not game stopping but still annoying and you know that as well as I do.There were some changes that devs made based on player suggestions like cru's, increased drop rate on some items like nippy. But remember when people who were selected to beta test AI, stopped login in to test server because they realized devs are not listening to their bug reports. I know a good amount of people who did that. If they listened, perhaps AI wouldn't be as buggy and unbalanced as it is right now.

    You know they half-ass everything, and there have been “game stoping” bugs that were not addressed for a long while. Such as, the button to pandemonium was bugged, it was stuck below the portal for at least 2 months, kinkster managed to clip his way through the bottom of the portal and get in, but it still wasn’t fixed for atleast a month after that.

    Also, there are class crippling bugs that still run rampant and were no where on the to-do list, and still aren’t on the to-do list, and it seems that every patch they make, it breaks the game worse.

    I suppose I can recommend this game to extremely casual social players, but for anyone who wants to really invest time into a RPG, I can’t see recommending a game where the Dev’s have such a negative attitude towards their dedicated player base.

  • IvanRashnuIvanRashnu Member Posts: 178

    After considering carefully and objectively, I've decided to quit this game and I've just canceled my account. I planned to list my reasons in a post that informs newcomers which defects they will probably experience during their play-time. But as far as I can see all my list was posted by Ravenmgs. I was not going to use a harsh language like that, it would be more tactful language, yet it wouldn't alter the fact this game is a big frustration if you have high expectations from science-fiction genre.I don't want to post all those issues again (lag, worst graphic engine, zone crashes, rubberbadnings, mob warpings, bugs etc) and I don't want to get flamed by old arks coming here and say "this game is good the dictionary shows you're X game fanboy". I want to tell you that Ravenmgs doesn't deserve such a flame at all, he didn't only say "this game sucks" and never come back to reply the messages posted after his post. He told and explained the reasons and why he doesn't like the game, as kreken said, they're said in harsh words, that's all. Unfortunately, except developers and ARKs part(I have no idea about this part), they're all true. In my previous post, I wanted to touch some funny aspects of this game, nonetheless, they're unable to redeem the defects. My friends' absence accelerated my quit decision. I noticed I had simply overlooked the bugs, graphics, rubberbandings etc. while we were playing together for the sake of having fun. But you pay for this game monthly, you want to see negative things getting better in return. Some bugs are reported and fixed immediately, yet some of them aren't, they may be ignored or something like that.


    Originally posted by kreken

    Bugs. Heh, a lot of them. Many of them are not game stopping but still annoying and you know that as well as I do

    No, Kreken, they do. I had to delete my engineer due to pet command bugs. I really enjoyed with crafting, but my first crafting experience was dreadful, as the basic weapon recipe was bugged. I didn't think it was bugged at that time firstly, cause it was my first experience at crafting, after some experienced engineers came to help me and said it was bugged, I disappointed. Because I spent a good amount of credits according to my level for materials. I even borrowed some money from my friend and I wasted an hour about that recipe.

    Pet command bugs are another disappointment. When you use attack command, your pet runs in a large circle, and trained a lot of mobs around and this causes your whole team slaughtered. I committed suicide mostly so as to get less negative feedbacks from the players died even though I could run away. These issues are repeated many times in patch notes thread on official forums, yet there was no response to them and lastly these bugs have still existed. Additionally trimmer don't work and don't taunt enough either, I don't know how many times I tried a quest with different quality level trimmers, but I couldn't kill the mobs, results were all same.

    This game forces everyone and every profession to be damage dealer, including engineers even though they're meant to craft. I think the damage shouldn't be everything in a game. You have people flood the team screens with their high damages and damage dumper program messages. Some people are really boastful about it although you told them to stop it they repeat it cause there's nothing to be boastful about this game except damage.

    The people become strange too. Finding teams, making teams are really hard nowadays. A team can be made hardly unless they are your friends, but they can easily fall apart. Especially, if a doctor or crat leaves the team, people leave that team without uttering any word too and this annoys the rest much. Lately, I've experienced frequently, and it wasn't same at the beginning I'm pretty sure. Be prepared for finding yourself staying on lft window hours and hours unless you're a doctor or crat. So this game forces everyone to be craft and doctor as well. I've seen many people who started a doctor without any search about that profession and don't know how to play. They do it just for finding team easily.

    The game is worth trying, but don't get your hopes up much. I played this game for 6 months. Ravenmgs played it for 3 years, so he should experience more frustration than I did.

    Best Regards

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  • krekenkreken Member UncommonPosts: 139

    I don't know much about pet professions as my experience ended with them years ago before they fixed pathing a bit. My highest level engi was 40ish because the pathing drove me nuts. Most of the time pre-NW and pre-SL, I played with my doc and soldier, after SL - with a shade, all to high levels so I know about those 3 professions and their bugs. Didn't really try to keep up with other professions issues.
    I stoped playing a year ago but recently went to AO forums and the same issues/bugs are posted that were before I quit. Nothing has changed.

    About teaming... I blame it all on SL. It was the expansion pack that ruined the game imo. Let me explain this. First of all, it changed the feel of the game. It went from sci-fi to some weird mix of sci-fi on rubika and fantasy in SL. Second is ingots from hecks, they inflated economy tremendously. The prices you see right now were not like that before and most of the time, they were reasonable with "the income" you get from missions or dyna hunting so you didn't have to go on excessive camping trips. Of course, GA4 disk sold for 350-400m and it was a huge amount of money back then. I never had more then 30m because I simply didn't need it. Third is very easy and fast xp from hecks in SL. That's why you got people called generation hecks who at high levels don't know how to play their profession. After sometime, people got carefull who they invite to teams because if at a bad pull or messed up mob pathing that results into adds, they will all would die. So people started teaming up only with the people they know like guildies or friends. For new players, it became harder and harder to find teams because of that perception created by generation hecks. So that's what you got right now, multiple hours lfg sessions without a success and bad teams.
    If AO went from NW straight to AI, it would have been a much better game than what it is right now.

  • RavenmgsRavenmgs Member Posts: 155

    I only blame it partly on shadowlands. Shadowlands was like being transported into EQ, and AO players don't pay to play AO because they want to play EQ. Shadowlands had nothing to do with AnarchyOnline gameplay or other wise.

    If the shadowlands had easy garden access, and missions in the shadowlands, it would of been better. Then again the whole game would of been better if they would fix maby just 1/4th of the major bugs.

  • anarchyartanarchyart Member Posts: 5,378



    Originally posted by LordMagnus

    Last time i tried the game, it lagged so badly that it was just unplayable. The thing is that my computer specs far surpass the reccomended system requirements....well i heard that the lag might be caused by outdated graphic card drivers so i updated them and am currently installing AO.




    I had the same problem back when my computer wasn't so hot. I re-installed after I got my new ram and video card and suffice it to say, the game was flawless with  ZERO lag. Drivers are funny things too. I will download the latest ATI drivers and install them and no 3d game will even work. And then I do the same exact thing again 10 minutes later and everythings perfect. Modem burps and power surges and whatever else can screw things up real good.

     

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  • anarchyartanarchyart Member Posts: 5,378



    Originally posted by Siphons




    I have to disagree. In fact, I can't think of a game with a better customer support system than AO. Once you've made your first character, they send a person TO YOU, to help you with any immediate questions about the game, and even show you around.
    Then, if you experience any problems at all, you're encouraged to send for a helper to try and straighten things out, be it bugs or even abuse from other players. They don't just tell you to /ignore abusive players, they observe the guy and then scare him with a warning! (repeat offenders are promptly banned).
    All of the volunteer helpers, must go through multiple extensive sessions of training before being a full advisor (the guy that comes out when you call for help). I can only recall one occasion when a volunteer went bezerk (warping poor newbs into acid pools and the like). It was promptly taken care of.
    I felt I had to take the time to retort, since I was once an Advisor of Ark, and those are the most friendly people you'll ever meet! Don't ever compare AO or Funcom to SOE ever again.





    Yeah the second time around on AO I couldn't believe it. Right after I make a character theres an in game GM standing there JUST FOR ME! I'm like hi. She told me she was there to help me, I was blown away. Anyway I asked a few questions and she answered them and started me on my way. That was awesome.

    Also, these people saying they get 5fps and have a system that surpasses requirements for the game have got to be computer illiterate. The game performed decently for me on my old PIII 533 mhz computer with 128 megs of ram on low settings. My new computer chomps the game and its flawless and I also never found a bug. Dunno what they were feedin their computer, but I suspect it came with a large pepsi to go across the motherboard.

    EDIT: let me just add that people with their own axe to grind or vendetta against any game should be ignored completely just as the fanboi should be ignored. For they both see the game through their own glasses, one rosey hued and the other, well, crap laden. LordMagnus I envy you for starting Anarchy Online again. It was one of the fondest experiences of my gaming career and I miss it.

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