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Mike Tyson (BLIZZARD) vs Buster Douglas (BIOWARE)

WarjinWarjin Member UncommonPosts: 1,216

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Exrpoc6GP60



In 1990 Mike Tyson thought he was unbeatable....he was wrong. Blizzard vs Bioware, is Blizzard & it's cheerleaders underestimating SWTOR because of past failures????

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  • ghogielghogiel Member Posts: 166

    I'd like to see an evidence of Blizzard thinks they're unbeatable and underestimating SWTOR.
    Any evidence will be appreciated - briefing for shareholders, blue posts, anything please.

    If any - Blizzard has always been humble and had even bring in other games' concept into WoW.

    Don't get me wrong - I've preordered SWTOR and had stopped playing WoW for a while now.
    But yes, I'd really like to see facts rather than opinion.

  • MMOtoGOMMOtoGO Member Posts: 630

    Activision (Don King)

  • BlackUhuruBlackUhuru Member Posts: 770

    Ultima Online EA Mythic (Muhammed Ali)

    "It would be awesome if you could duel your companion. Then you could solo pvp".--Thanes

  • PukeBucketPukeBucket Member Posts: 867

    ArenaNet, Howard Cosell?

    I used to play MMOs like you, but then I took an arrow to the knee.

  • DarkPonyDarkPony Member Posts: 5,566

    Could be a knock out in the first round or a very long fight.

    I think that in order to best WOW, SWTOR needs just as much depth as WOW in character, gear and content progression (both in pvp and pve) and just as much long term incentives for solo players and groups.

    If Swtor happens to be too easy, and endgame content too shallow with too few incentives reached in too short of a timespan, it will be seen as a failure by many WOW vets as they are used to a wide choice of long term incentives and not so much to a focus on an extremely rich leveling trajectory. (Which, however, will keep people entertained for at least the first few months).

  • Ramonski7Ramonski7 Member UncommonPosts: 2,662

    Originally posted by Warjin

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Exrpoc6GP60



    In 1990 Mike Tyson thought he was unbeatable....he was wrong. Blizzard vs Bioware, is Blizzard & it's cheerleaders underestimating SWTOR because of past failures????

    Ok I know this was done in good spirits but when can the nonsense like this be done? I mean really? Is this a elementary schoolyard console war fetish or something? Always the need to pit something vs. something? I think the mmo genre is big enough to support more than one multi million user mmo. I mean the genre is big enough to support multi million dollar companies right?

     

    Or maybe I'm just overreacting to a harmless little topic made to spark some sort of friendly competition....whatever...maybe I'm just not in the mood for this...later

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  • nomssnomss Member UncommonPosts: 1,468

    Originally posted by ghogiel

    I'd like to see an evidence of Blizzard thinks they're unbeatable and underestimating SWTOR.

    Any evidence will be appreciated - briefing for shareholders, blue posts, anything please.

    If any - Blizzard has always been humble and had even bring in other games' concept into WoW.

    Don't get me wrong - I've preordered SWTOR and had stopped playing WoW for a while now.

    But yes, I'd really like to see facts rather than opinion.

    I think humble here is a good word. This is how I feel Blizzard takes the stand with other things.

  • UnshraUnshra Member UncommonPosts: 381

    Originally posted by BlackUhuru

    Ultima Online EA BioWare Mythic (Muhammed Ali)

    Fixed ;-P

     

    Though if Ultima Online is Ali what does that make Everquest or Asheron's Call. Also would that make Meridian 59 more of a famous trainer than a fighter? ;)

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  • BlackUhuruBlackUhuru Member Posts: 770

    Originally posted by PukeBucket

    ArenaNet, Howard Cosell?

    ArenaNet (Oscar De La Hoya)

    "It would be awesome if you could duel your companion. Then you could solo pvp".--Thanes

  • SomeOldBlokeSomeOldBloke Member UncommonPosts: 2,167

    Blizzard had the advantage in launching WoW in a relatively immature market. They had enough product diversity to initially attract mature MMO players to gather a base of subscribers then they found a way to attract newer customers. As they progressed they continued to update the base concept that enabled them the retain most of their playerbase and still attrtact new customers.

    Unfortunately for bioware they are launching a product in a mature market with an ovberly demanding playerbase. They need to find their own product diversity (fully voiced) without mutating the core comncepts of the MMO gaming so they can offer enough for everyone and hopefully for them producing another cash cow instead of a dog.

  • BlackUhuruBlackUhuru Member Posts: 770

    Originally posted by Unshra

    Originally posted by BlackUhuru

    Ultima Online EA BioWare Mythic (Muhammed Ali)

    Fixed ;-P

     

    Though if Ultima Online is Ali what does that make Everquest or Asheron's Call. Also would that make Meridian 59 more of a famous trainer than a fighter? ;)

    Everquest (George Foreman)

    Asherons Call (Julio Ceasar Chavez)

    Meridian 59 (Jack Dempsey)

    "It would be awesome if you could duel your companion. Then you could solo pvp".--Thanes

  • Z3R01Z3R01 Member UncommonPosts: 2,426

    k

    Playing: Nothing

    Looking forward to: Nothing 


  • DiSpLiFFDiSpLiFF Member UncommonPosts: 602

    do we really need a thread like this everytime a new mmo is coming out? Why can't people just give blizzard the credit that they deserve? They made a solid mmo, period, it doesn't matter when they released the game (guild wars/lineage 2/ EQ2) were all released around the same period. 

    But after 7 years, I do think it's time that another game step up to the plate. 

  • WhiteLanternWhiteLantern Member RarePosts: 3,319

    I watched that fight televised. If you remember, Douglas should have been counted out at one point; the outside ref was up to like a 12 count when the inside ref let them continue. But I digress. No, this analogy escapes me.

    I want a mmorpg where people have gone through misery, have gone through school stuff and actually have had sex even. -sagil

  • raistlinmraistlinm Member Posts: 673

    Originally posted by Warjin

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Exrpoc6GP60



    In 1990 Mike Tyson thought he was unbeatable....he was wrong. Blizzard vs Bioware, is Blizzard & it's cheerleaders underestimating SWTOR because of past failures????

    Until I see something that says TOR is directly taking players from WOW I'm not sure it's a battle at all.  While fans like to see things that way I tend to think the companies would play the role of "parents" in your sibbling rivalry why take sides?

  • ThomasN7ThomasN7 87.18.7.148Member CommonPosts: 6,690

    Sorry but WoW will still remain supreme until Guild Wars 2 releases. TOR is nothig more than a crabon copy of WoW with voice over, I don't see what the hype is all about.

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  • GMan3GMan3 Member CommonPosts: 2,127

    Originally posted by nomss

    Originally posted by ghogiel

    I'd like to see an evidence of Blizzard thinks they're unbeatable and underestimating SWTOR.

    Any evidence will be appreciated - briefing for shareholders, blue posts, anything please.

    If any - Blizzard has always been humble and had even bring in other games' concept into WoW.

    Don't get me wrong - I've preordered SWTOR and had stopped playing WoW for a while now.

    But yes, I'd really like to see facts rather than opinion.

    I think humble here is a good word. This is how I feel Blizzard takes the stand with other things.

        Humble?  Ever try to talk to customer service after you have been hacked?  They are not even willing to look at IP addresses to verify where you were "playing" the game in recently.  Humble is NOT a word I would use for this company.

    "If half of what you tell me is a lie, how can I believe any of it?"

  • sexypanda198sexypanda198 Member Posts: 151

    Jagex-butterbean. sorry he deserved a spot for anyone who remembers him

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  • raistlinmraistlinm Member Posts: 673

    Originally posted by SaintViktor

    Sorry but WoW will still remain supreme until Guild Wars 2 releases. TOR is nothig more than a crabon copy of WoW with voice over, I don't see what the hype is all about.

    I hop your assertion is that GW2 is  going to please the people who play it and not that it will become larger than WOW.  Besides if that happened the wanna be emo types will just spend the rest of it's reign at the top bashing it as all things wrong with mmorpg's.

  • just2duhjust2duh Member Posts: 1,290

     Mike Tyson should be Bioware, since he and Bioware are both mere shadows of their former self.

  • ElsaboltsElsabolts Member RarePosts: 3,476

    Originally posted by ghogiel

    I'd like to see an evidence of Blizzard thinks they're unbeatable and underestimating SWTOR.

    Any evidence will be appreciated - briefing for shareholders, blue posts, anything please.

    If any - Blizzard has always been humble and had even bring in other games' concept into WoW.

    Don't get me wrong - I've preordered SWTOR and had stopped playing WoW for a while now.

    But yes, I'd really like to see facts rather than opinion.

    Ok here is what i think the evidence tells me.

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  • sexypanda198sexypanda198 Member Posts: 151

    Originally posted by raistlinm

    Originally posted by SaintViktor

    Sorry but WoW will still remain supreme until Guild Wars 2 releases. TOR is nothig more than a crabon copy of WoW with voice over, I don't see what the hype is all about.

    I hop your assertion is that GW2 is what going to please the people who play it and not that it will become larger than WOW.

    warhammer and age of conan promised the same sadly. 

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  • VolgoreVolgore Member EpicPosts: 3,872

    Originally posted by WhiteLantern

    I watched that fight televised. If you remember, Douglas should have been counted out at one point; the outside ref was up to like a 12 count when the inside ref let them continue. But I digress. No, this analogy escapes me.

    I was about to write that now, you beat me to it.

    Tyson should have won the fight...while i'm not shure this is the same in the Blizzard:Bioware analogy.

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  • BlazeyerBlazeyer Member UncommonPosts: 562

    Originally posted by BlackUhuru

    Originally posted by Unshra


    Originally posted by BlackUhuru

    Ultima Online EA BioWare Mythic (Muhammed Ali)

    Fixed ;-P

     

    Though if Ultima Online is Ali what does that make Everquest or Asheron's Call. Also would that make Meridian 59 more of a famous trainer than a fighter? ;)

    Everquest (George Foreman)

    Asherons Call (Julio Ceasar Chavez)

    Meridian 59 (Jack Dempsey)

    Eh no.

     

    EQ (Sugar ray robinson)

    DAOC (Ali)

    WoW (Tyson)

    SWTOR (Saul "Canelo" Alverez)<- Next big thing.

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